Teachers go on strike over high levels of violence by knife carrying pupils

Tommy Monk wrote:

Teachers are to strike outside an ‘Outstanding’ school where they say pupils are carrying knives, threatening staff and fighting.

Behaviour levels are said to be so bad at Starbank Secondary School on Hob Moor Road in South Yardleythat staff have been issued with 'panic buttons' on their computers.

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Teachers claim they are not being supported and fear for their safety and the safety of other pupils at school.

After months of union negotiations, they have decided to strike on Thursday June 26.

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“We were contacted by members a few months ago who were concerned about the behaviour of pupils," said Paul Nesbitt, NASUWT National Executive Member for the West Midlands.

“They said pupils were coming into school with knives and threatening staff."

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nicko wrote:WTF is all that about  ?????

Tommy Monk wrote:

Left teaching methods are to blame!

Raggamuffin wrote:I blame the kids.

Tommy Monk wrote:
Syl said...

"I would say the initial blame lies with the parents who cant control their own kids."



Good evening Syl.

Parents are not in charge of their kids when the kids are at school... the school and the teachers are...!


And it is the lefty PC teaching style of being soft on rules and discipline, and focusing more on trying to be understanding and supportive of the perpetrators of bad behaviour, rather than punishing them, and failure to involve the police over more serious incidents ie carrying knives/drugs or over any violent/sexual assaults etc, again because of the lefty pc teaching mindset whereby the teachers would rather cover things up than involve police because they are more concerned about the pupil maybe getting some sort of criminal record that the teachers feel 'may be something that disadvantages the pupils future life chances of getting a decent job' etc... or maybe the perpetrators are disproportionately of a 'non white' ethnicity, and the teachers think it would then be "racist' to be seen to be punishing the non whites more than the white kids...!?


This whole current lefty namby pamby PC way of doing things in schools (all over the country), is what is allowing these seriously violent and chaotic examples of school environments to exist!!!

If a kid at school is caught carrying a knife, or has punched a teacher in the face... then the police should be called in to deal with them on criminal charges... then social services need to get involved... plus the pupil should be suspended/expelled from the school for the safety and security and well being of all the other pupils and teachers at the school, and which will be most likely way to ensure a sense of discipline which will only help to add to the smooth running of that school...!

Syl wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:
Syl said...

"I would say the initial blame lies with the parents who cant control their own kids."



Good evening Syl.

Parents are not in charge of their kids when the kids are at school... the school and the teachers are...!


And it is the lefty PC teaching style of being soft on rules and discipline, and focusing more on trying to be understanding and supportive of the perpetrators of bad behaviour, rather than punishing them, and failure to involve the police over more serious incidents ie carrying knives/drugs or over any violent/sexual assaults etc, again because of the lefty pc teaching mindset whereby the teachers would rather cover things up than involve police because they are more concerned about the pupil maybe getting some sort of criminal record that the teachers feel 'may be something that disadvantages the pupils future life chances of getting a decent job' etc... or maybe the perpetrators are disproportionately of a 'non white' ethnicity, and the teachers think it would then be "racist' to be seen to be punishing the non whites more than the white kids...!?


This whole current lefty namby pamby PC way of doing things in schools (all over the country), is what is allowing these seriously violent and chaotic examples of school environments to exist!!!

If a kid at school is caught carrying a knife, or has punched a teacher in the face... then the police should be called in to deal with them on criminal charges... then social services need to get involved... plus the pupil should be suspended/expelled from the school for the safety and security and well being of all the other pupils and teachers at the school, and which will be most likely way to ensure a sense of discipline which will only help to add to the smooth running of that school...!

Evening Tommy.

I agree 100% with your last paragraph, pathetically light sentences and the soft glove approach towards wayward teenagers is helping no one. I would introduce boot camps for wayward teens if it was up to me, but that's a different debate.

But...kids reach an out of control state because their parents/guardians have failed to instil decent values towards their kids from the onset... I am talking from way before they reach the stage where they are stabbing each other to death.

So I stand by what I said ...INITIALLY the blame does lie with the parents.

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:

Evening Tommy.

I agree 100% with your last paragraph, pathetically light sentences and the soft glove approach towards wayward teenagers is helping no one. I would introduce boot camps for wayward teens if it was up to me, but that's a different debate.

But...kids reach an out of control state because their parents/guardians have failed to instil decent values towards their kids from the onset... I am talking from way before they reach the stage where they are stabbing each other to death.

So I stand by what I said ...INITIALLY the blame does lie with the parents.

But, tommy thinks the sentences are too heavy if you're a Londoner.  Lord help us if this strike spreads.

Syl wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

But, tommy thinks the sentences are too heavy if you're a Londoner.  Lord help us if this strike spreads.

Parking fines have nothing to do with sentencing knife wielding thugs.  

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:

Parking fines have nothing to do with sentencing knife wielding thugs.  

Same thing, just another area of law.

Syl wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Same thing, just another area of law.

Totally different, it's been explained in the other thread why.
So no point in carrying it over into this thread.

Syl wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:I blame the kids.

Depends how old the kids are, but if they haven't been taught from a young age how to treat others with respect that's down to the parents, no one else.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Syl wrote:

Depends how old the kids are, but if they haven't been taught from a young age how to treat others with respect that's down to the parents, no one else.

I don't think you need to taught that stabbing someone with a knife is not on.