What a Crock - Jussie Smollett: Prosecutors drop all charges against actor

Original Quill wrote:

phildidge wrote:

I was right with Wolf and wrong with Quill

That was not lying but mistaken.

I assumed based off Wolf

Nice try at trying to imflame though. 

It wont work

What does wolf have to do with it?  God, you are such a shit-stirrer...making up for loss of intellectual capacity.

phildidge wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

What does wolf have to do with it?  God, you are such a shit-stirrer...making up for loss of intellectual capacity.

Because wolf had enough of the place and had stopped posting, so I messaged him and he explained why he had stopped posting activelly on the forum for a while

He has made it very clear why on here as well

I wrongly assumed as you were not hear, at basically the same time he stopped posting. That you had done the same

Syl wrote:

phildidge wrote:


Because wolf had enough of the place and had stopped posting, so I messaged him and he explained why he had stopped posting activelly on the forum for a while

He has made it very clear why on here as well

I wrongly assumed as you were not hear, at basically the same time he stopped posting. That you had done the same

Yes you were wrong....pity you didn't have the grace to  rectify your lie mistake.
I dont give a toss about abusive posters....but I would certainly hate to think a decent one had ever left because of me.

phildidge wrote:

Syl wrote:

Yes you were wrong....pity you didn't have the grace to  rectify your lie mistake.
I dont give a toss about abusive posters....but I would certainly hate to think a decent one had ever left because of me.

So I was right about Wolf though and wrongly assumed the same of Quill as he had disappeared

That is not lying is it?

As I did not know and as I admitted wrongly assumed based off why wolf was not posting at the time. Being as they are both very good friends

Funny how your attempts to goad have fallen flat again eh?

Both are decent posters. 

And would care if anyone was down, including you

That is the diference between us

You hold a grudge like a toddler, and I am able move on every single time

Syl wrote:

phildidge wrote:


So I was right about Wolf though and wrongly assumed the same of Quill as he had disappeared

That is not lying is it?

As I did not know and as I admitted wrongly assumed based off why wolf was not posting at the time. Being as they are both very good friends

Funny how your attempts to goad have fallen flat again eh?

Both are decent posters. 

And would care if anyone was down, including you

That is the diference between us

You hold a grudge like a toddler, and I am able move on every single time

If an abusive poster leaves because he gets a bit back...tough....though no one has actually left have they?

I mentioned the fact you said I had driven Quill away in this thread because you were glibly throwing the word 'liar' around at him....yet you  deliberately lied about me.
I have not mentioned it before, and .I wont mention it again, but you can hardly complain if now and again your own lies come back to bite you in the arse.

phildidge wrote:

Syl wrote:

If an abusive poster leaves because he gets a bit back...tough....though no one has actually left have they?

I mentioned the fact you said I had driven Quill away in this thread because you were glibly throwing the word 'liar' around at him....yet you  deliberately lied about me.
I have not mentioned it before, and .I wont mention it again, but you can hardly complain if now and again your own lies come back to bite you in the arse.

1) Double standard, when you have done the same, as when you get it back  you have admitted to staying away

I said you had driven wolf and quill away

So I was right on wolf and wrong on quill

I assumed wrong with quill, based on Wolf

You have jumped in because you miss my attention so much and you wanted to play a get of jail card for quill here. For the outlandish claims he was making 

I never lied about you, I even posted where you lied at something I  never said and can post it again if you like?

You then faced with the evidence, still refused to admit you were wrong

That told me everything I needed to know about you Syl and yet I move on and simple pity that kind of stubborness that is innate within you

Like I say you must be bored, yeanring for my attention

Syl wrote:

phildidge wrote:


1) Double standard, when you have done the same, as when you get it back  you have admitted to staying away

I said you had driven wolf and quill away

So I was right on wolf and wrong on quill

I assumed wrong with quill, based on Wolf

You have jumped in because you miss my attention so much and you wanted to play a get of jail card for quill here. For the outlandish claims he was making 

I never lied about you, I even posted where you lied at something I  never said and can post it again if you like?

You then faced with the evidence, still refused to admit you were wrong

That told me everything I needed to know about you Syl and yet I move on and simple pity that kind of stubborness that is innate within you

Like I say you must be bored, yeanring for my attention

OMG....I sincerely hope you dont believe the stuff you come out with.

Over and out.

Original Quill wrote:

gelico wrote:


very interesting, i'm sure, quill

i was however referring to your claim that it was all dropped because of failed testimony.  this is what i posted,,,,,



all you kept saying is ''the brother's testimony fell apart''.

how did it fall apart?  on which part were they 'caught out'.  where are the details of this failed testimony

and again, who would hush that up? and why?



can you answer that?

No.  I was in the hospital, with no means to take notes as I normally do.  I have never seen that particular interview again, although I have looked.

I guess someone thought it would inflame people like you, and they pulled it.  Obviously they are right, so it was a prudent decision.  As far as the outcome...it is what it is.

phildidge wrote:

Syl wrote:

If an abusive poster leaves because he gets a bit back...tough....though no one has actually left have they?

I mentioned the fact you said I had driven Quill away in this thread because you were glibly throwing the word 'liar' around at him....yet you  deliberately lied about me.
I have not mentioned it before, and .I wont mention it again, but you can hardly complain if now and again your own lies come back to bite you in the arse.

I said you had driven wolf and quill away

So I was right on wolf and wrong on quill

gelico wrote:

phildidge wrote:



I said you had driven wolf and quill away

So I was right on wolf and wrong on quill

no, because wolf is posting here

she hadn't in fact driven anyone away

can't you just say sorry to syl for that comment?  can't be that difficult, surely

phildidge wrote:

gelico wrote:

no, because wolf is posting here

she hadn't in fact driven anyone away

can't you just say sorry to syl for that comment?  can't be that difficult, surely

You have no idea at all on this Gelico, as wolf had stopped posting at the time

I was mistaken on quill and said so and you want me to apologise, when she cannot even admit to making false claims to things I never said?

Where she failed to apologise?

So why is it difficult for her, after me posting this countless times proving she then afterwards lied on this?
When you start pulling her up, maybe I will be bothered to take your advice in future

Let me know how that pans out

gelico wrote:

phildidge wrote:


You have no idea at all on this Gelico, as wolf had stopped posting at the time

I was mistaken on quill and said so and you want me to apologise, when she cannot even admit to making false claims to things I never said?

Where she failed to apologise?

So why is it difficult for her, after me posting this countless times proving she then afterwards lied on this?
When you start pulling her up, maybe I will be bothered to take your advice in future

Let me know how that pans out

I didn't say I wanted you to apologise, didge.  I merely thought it would be the right thing to do

If you are neither man nor gentleman enough to do so then it's hardly a problem to me,,,,,,nor indeed to syl I should imagine

your choice, of course

whatever

gelico wrote:

phildidge wrote:



I said you had driven wolf and quill away

So I was right on wolf and wrong on quill

no, because wolf is posting here

she hadn't in fact driven anyone away

can't you just say sorry to syl for that comment?  can't be that difficult, surely

Syl wrote:

gelico wrote:

no, because wolf is posting here

she hadn't in fact driven anyone away

can't you just say sorry to syl for that comment?  can't be that difficult, surely

Thanks Gels, but as usual Didge tries (and fails) to deflect his wrongdoings on others.

He was wrong, he knows it, and I just put the record straight.

phildidge wrote:

Syl wrote:
Thanks Gels, but as usual Didge tries (and fails) to deflect his wrongdoings on others.

He was wrong, he knows it, and I just put the record straight.

Ahhhhhhhhh bless ha ha ha ha

You have never once apologised to me, for the numereous crap and lies you have said

As usual you came on here to try and stir and I am laughing loads at this

You are the one that lacks humility and even when I posted the claims you made and then you still tried to deny, shows your utter dishonesty

I was not wrong in regards to wolf and mistaken about quill and admitted that

That does not warrant an apology

Syl wrote:

phildidge wrote:


Ahhhhhhhhh bless ha ha ha ha

You have never once apologised to me, for the numereous crap and lies you have said

As usual you came on here to try and stir and I am laughing loads at this

You are the one that lacks humility and even when I posted the claims you made and then you still tried to deny, shows your utter dishonesty

I was not wrong in regards to wolf and mistaken about quill and admitted that

That does not warrant an apology

First I dont want or need one of apologies....they are useless.
Secondly, are you still accusing me of lying because I used the word expect instead of accept in a thread MONTHS ago?
You have clung on to  that like a fart in a wetsuit everytime we have had  a disagreement ever since.
Move on.....and at least admit to yourself you are 100% wrong. 

gelico wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

No.  I was in the hospital, with no means to take notes as I normally do.  I have never seen that particular interview again, although I have looked.

I guess someone thought it would inflame people like you, and they pulled it.  Obviously they are right, so it was a prudent decision.  As far as the outcome...it is what it is.

oh, quill seriously,,,,

why would a statement that proved jussie innocent inflame me?  and what do you mean exactly ''people like you''

gelico wrote:if there was any evidence that the brothers testimony fell apart then it would have been broadcast on every network in order to put people straight.

they pulled it be bollox

you know perfectly well this never even happened.

Syl wrote:I posted in the thread to show up your hypocrisy.
Job done...night night.

Original Quill wrote:

gelico wrote:

oh, quill seriously,,,,

why would a statement that proved jussie innocent inflame me?  and what do you mean exactly ''people like you''

Because the issue has become tribal.  You are not here for truth, but to destroy and satisfy your personality deficiencies.  When an issue becomes tribal, the result matters more that the evidence.  You are in that frame of mind right now.

gelico wrote:if there was any evidence that the brothers testimony fell apart then it would have been broadcast on every network in order to put people straight.

they pulled it be bollox

you know perfectly well this never even happened.

I have long since disavowed that claim, because I can no longer find the clip...though I have tried.  But you ignore that disavowal, proving precisely that you are in a tribal state of mind.  No reasoning can convince you—no matter that I take a different position--precisely because you are not here to discuss and debate.  You are here to conduct internet war.

This place was once a good debating site.  Unfortunately, because of people like you, the place has deteriorated into a haven for insults and gangs.  Wolf and I have been on sites involved in internet wars, and this has all the feel of it…save that it small.  Certain personalities come to those sites, not to discuss and debate, but to get into insult exchanges.  What a waste of mindspace.

I know how the infection takes place.  Soon this place will be given over solely to insults and derogatory comments.  Too bad.  

Original Quill wrote:

gelico wrote:

oh, quill seriously,,,,

why would a statement that proved jussie innocent inflame me?  and what do you mean exactly ''people like you''

Because the issue has become tribal.  You are not here for truth, but to destroy and satisfy your personality deficiencies.  When an issue becomes tribal, the result matters more that the evidence.  You are in that frame of mind right now.  Didge has always been there...he is ill-equipped for real debate.

gelico wrote:if there was any evidence that the brothers testimony fell apart then it would have been broadcast on every network in order to put people straight.

they pulled it be bollox

you know perfectly well this never even happened.

I have long since disavowed that claim, because I can no longer find the clip...though I have tried.  But you ignore that disavowal, proving precisely that you are in a tribal state of mind.  No reasoning can convince you—no matter that I take a different position--precisely because you are not here to discuss and debate.  You are here to conduct internet war.

This place was once a good debating site.  Unfortunately, because of people like you, the place has deteriorated into a haven for insults and gangs.  Wolf and I have been on sites involved in internet wars, and this has all the feel of it…save that it small.  Certain personalities come to those sites, not to discuss and debate, but to get into insult exchanges.  What a waste of mindspace.

I know how the infection takes place.  Soon this place will be given over solely to insults and derogatory comments.  Too bad.

Original Quill wrote:

phildidge wrote:

I guess because your bias is so bad, you are blind to any conflict, when you view something with a racial lens

Anyway, its not down for you to see the conflict. What will be is a judge to organise a sepcial prosecutor

What a surprise.  Nowhere in the thread title does it say that this thread is about me, notwithstanding your change of the subject.  I refuse to be engaged on that subject.

So cut the crap, I gave evidence to show she even herself looked to step down

Yes, but why did she recuse, if as you say she did?  I don't accept blanket summary, whether it goes to excuses or any other evidence.

phil wrote:The fact this goes over your racial bias head, is what is wrong here

I seriously think you would defend Idi Admin, simple because he was black

This is not about me.  I refuse to engage.

phil wrote:You dont see the wrongs done here, by Jussie, you just see the colour of his skin and immediatelly seeked to defend him

I've never said that.  The question has not arisen in this discussion.

phil wrote:It shows you have a racist mindset. You dont look at the actual evidence at all, but take the side of someone based on their skin colour

This is not about me.  That's the third time I've had to caution you about this.  I suggest that you review the discussion, in Site News and Announcements, about 'Answer the post, not the poster.'

You know how prone you are to being banned.  You are perhaps the worst offender of this.  This is largely why.  There's a lesson in that thread, and I feel it is instructive for you in particular.

gelico wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Because the issue has become tribal.  You are not here for truth, but to destroy and satisfy your personality deficiencies.  When an issue becomes tribal, the result matters more that the evidence.  You are in that frame of mind right now.  Didge has always been there...he is ill-equipped for real debate.



I have long since disavowed that claim, because I can no longer find the clip...though I have tried.  But you ignore that disavowal, proving precisely that you are in a tribal state of mind.  No reasoning can convince you—no matter that I take a different position--precisely because you are not here to discuss and debate.  You are here to conduct internet war.

This place was once a good debating site.  Unfortunately, because of people like you, the place has deteriorated into a haven for insults and gangs.  Wolf and I have been on sites involved in internet wars, and this has all the feel of it…save that it small.  Certain personalities come to those sites, not to discuss and debate, but to get into insult exchanges.  What a waste of mindspace.

I know how the infection takes place.  Soon this place will be given over solely to insults and derogatory comments.  Too bad.

No, quill.

You know perfectly well, as does the rest of the world that if Foxx really had any kind of info regarding the brothers testimony that she would have been barking on about it non stop for all to hear.  We all know that.

This place was once a place where you could lie and no one would call you out on it.  Unfortunately, because of people like me, you can't get away with it so easily

as for your precious wolfie, you do realise that he puts out more insults that most of us put together, right?

cry me a river, quill

either you made a mistake and you were wrong, in which case just own it.  Or you lied, and you got caught out, in which case just own it

end of

Original Quill wrote:

gelico wrote:


No, quill.

You know perfectly well, as does the rest of the world that if Foxx really had any kind of info regarding the brothers testimony that she would have been barking on about it non stop for all to hear.  We all know that.

This place was once a place where you could lie and no one would call you out on it.  Unfortunately, because of people like me, you can't get away with it so easily

as for your precious wolfie, you do realise that he puts out more insults that most of us put together, right?

cry me a river, quill

either you made a mistake and you were wrong, in which case just own it.  Or you lied, and you got caught out, in which case just own it

end of

Proving that you are a tribalist, you care nothing about my disavowal or for my position whatsoever.  All you want to do is play GOTCHA!!

To you it's a disappointment that I seek truth or fairness...to you all that matters is a binary outcome.  Which is why you refuse to recognize my change of position...it's all gotcha, gotcha, gotcha!, and my fairness is a bother to you.

You are the bane of the world today...the reason why non-cooperation exist, intolerance prevails, and the reason why wars abound.  Look at how you take after wolf, and he isn't even a part of the discussion.  For you, it's all about how much divisiveness and emnity that you can create.  Someone--a mother, father, or lover--left a big hole right in the middle of you, and you're damn sure out for revenge.

HT wrote: I'm not quite sure how you can fling this at Gelico and keep a straight face? Or are you being facetious? In many posts I put up here, Wolf follows me around calling me names and insulting me... and often when I'm not even part of the discussion. When he gets it back, he scuttles off like a little girl crying about abuse.  

After Didge, I think I'm one of the most prolific thread starters on this place. Something I do to try and keep the place alive. You're right about the forum being killed though. I'm staying away more and more because of the very attitude and personally abusive stuff you've just posted.

Wolf is THE most abusive poster on this forum. He's very similar to Philagain in his unhinged bitterness towards certain posters on here. Yet you defend him all the time? Taking low blows at another poster about their personal life shouldn't be tolerated by admin on here.  

phildidge wrote:1)  There has been no abuse on this thread

2) Quill is not in a position to state what is right or wrong with how to debate. As to what is best is ambigious to say the least. Dependent on what people like and dislike

3) This has nothing to do with tribalism

This has everything to do with a debate that went downhill the moment you lied about a claim on the brothers. So bad was this lie, that you created more lies off this first one. Just because you simple would not admit to being wrong

You have shown some of the worst defense for your lies on this and that certainly matters when debating a topic, if the person (you in this case). Finds it impossible to admit when wrong

phil wrote:Also, nobody is buying into this victimology crap and that is not just to you, but others on here. Nobody is innocent, as much as some like to think they are. They are not. People need to move on.

Original Quill wrote:

phildidge wrote:1)  There has been no abuse on this thread

2) Quill is not in a position to state what is right or wrong with how to debate. As to what is best is ambigious to say the least. Dependent on what people like and dislike

3) This has nothing to do with tribalism

This has everything to do with a debate that went downhill the moment you lied about a claim on the brothers. So bad was this lie, that you created more lies off this first one. Just because you simple would not admit to being wrong

You have shown some of the worst defense for your lies on this and that certainly matters when debating a topic, if the person (you in this case). Finds it impossible to admit when wrong

That proves it's about tribalism.  I have disavowed and changed my position because I cannot find the clip.  But this is not enough.  Why?  Because you want to hang on to that position, even though I disavow it, so as to engage in a gotcha game.

phil wrote:Really?

You did not disavow the clip though Quill. as you then went to invent and claim more falsehoods based off the clip. Claiming it was shelved by the media company. Based again on a falsehood on how people would react.

How is that tribalism?

I really think you have no comprehension of what tribalism is.

Here you show your intellectual weakness.  Nobody has mentioned "victimology" nor have you introduced or connected victimology to the subject.  We have been discussing tribalism and divisive gang mentality.  Stay on topic, or remain irrelevant.

phil wrote:You keep claiming yourself to be a victim of abuse on here, when nobody has been abusive towards you

Original Quill wrote:

phil wrote:You keep claiming yourself to be a victim of abuse on here, when nobody has been abusive towards you

That is not my claim.  You see how you always lose the plot?  You can't listen, reason or process ideas.

You are reduced to insults and swear words because you lose the plot so easily, and people don't want to communicate with you as a result.