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New Centrist party, Already Polling 8%
by Guest Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:33 pm
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The pollsters have been quick off the mark to gauge the level of public support for a ‘New Centrist Party Opposed to Brexit’, even though the new Independents Group has not yet formally formed a party. Survation found that the theoretical new party would already attract the support of 8%, jumping straight into third place ahead of the Lib Dems:
Helpfully, they also conducted a second poll at the same time without the new centrist party, which gives a good indication of where their votes are coming from. The Lib Dems are hit hardest, losing almost half of their vote share (4%) to the new party, while Labour lose 2% and the Conservatives drop 1%. Not a compelling argument in favour of the Tories softening their position on Brexit…
Worryingly for Corbyn, the public is broadly supportive of the MPs’ decision to splinter away from Labour. Survation found 56% thought they were right to split, with only 20% opposed, while a separate YouGov poll found a 46%-13% split on the same question. On the question of which “best represents the people of Britain”, Survation found 40% favoured the new Independent Group while only 23% chose the Labour Party under Jeremy Corbyn. For the few, not the many…
https://order-order.com/2019/02/19/new-centrist-party-already-polling-8-lib-dems-lose/
The pollsters have been quick off the mark to gauge the level of public support for a ‘New Centrist Party Opposed to Brexit’, even though the new Independents Group has not yet formally formed a party. Survation found that the theoretical new party would already attract the support of 8%, jumping straight into third place ahead of the Lib Dems:
- Conservatives: 39%
- Labour: 34%
- “A new centrist party opposed to Brexit”: 8%
- Lib Dems: 6%
- UKIP: 5%
- Green: 2%
Helpfully, they also conducted a second poll at the same time without the new centrist party, which gives a good indication of where their votes are coming from. The Lib Dems are hit hardest, losing almost half of their vote share (4%) to the new party, while Labour lose 2% and the Conservatives drop 1%. Not a compelling argument in favour of the Tories softening their position on Brexit…
Worryingly for Corbyn, the public is broadly supportive of the MPs’ decision to splinter away from Labour. Survation found 56% thought they were right to split, with only 20% opposed, while a separate YouGov poll found a 46%-13% split on the same question. On the question of which “best represents the people of Britain”, Survation found 40% favoured the new Independent Group while only 23% chose the Labour Party under Jeremy Corbyn. For the few, not the many…
https://order-order.com/2019/02/19/new-centrist-party-already-polling-8-lib-dems-lose/
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Re: New Centrist party, Already Polling 8%
by Tommy Monk Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:18 pm
The Devil, You Know wrote:are you a british national, if so your vote is valid in uk elections and referendums. EU and non eu citizens votes are not valid in uk referendumsThor wrote:
Didge... what I said, is the same as what flap has said in his post quoted above...
And the points I made, were in answer to your earlier question about whether or not a new pro EU party forming and getting a big following, should mean we rejoin the EU or not...!
The answer is no, it doesn't mean we rejoin the EU at all!!!
Nothing to do with racism or any personal dig at you didge...!
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Re: New Centrist party, Already Polling 8%
by Guest Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:18 am
Tommy Monk wrote:The Devil, You Know wrote:
are you a british national, if so your vote is valid in uk elections and referendums. EU and non eu citizens votes are not valid in uk referendums
Didge... what I said, is the same as what flap has said in his post quoted above...
And the points I made, were in answer to your earlier question about whether or not a new pro EU party forming and getting a big following, should mean we rejoin the EU or not...!
The answer is no, it doesn't mean we rejoin the EU at all!!!
Nothing to do with racism or any personal dig at you didge...!
Dodged the questioned
So I will ask in a way you understand
Am I British to you?
Yes or no?
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Re: New Centrist party, Already Polling 8%
by Eilzel Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:50 am
The Devil, You Know wrote:not the best option, the only option, labour could not have created a majority gov even with the ld'sEilzel wrote:The Devil, You Know wrote:
of course it isn't, But what you are wishing for is a left wing government always being in power through coalitions. But a government that can govern is far preferable to one that has to horse trade their principles away. I would prefer a labour gov, to a lab/lib/snp gov just as I would prefer a tory gov to any other sort of coalition.
Not strictly LW. The Liberal Tory coalition was not LW but was certainly the best option at the time. Better imo than the Tory majority that followed it and the Labour govt (under Brown) that preceeded it. A similar coalition could happen again.
And still did a better job than Labour from 2005-2010 (when they had a majority), and the Tories from 2015 till now (2 years of which they had a majority)
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Re: New Centrist party, Already Polling 8%
by Guest Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:30 am
So now it is 9 Labour MP's
Ian Austin has also quite the party
That is now 12 MP's forming a nucleus of this group
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47330079
Ian Austin has also quite the party
That is now 12 MP's forming a nucleus of this group
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47330079
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Re: New Centrist party, Already Polling 8%
by The Devil, You Know Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:23 pm
Ian Austin does not want anything to do with them so it's still only 11.Thor wrote:So now it is 9 Labour MP's
Ian Austin has also quite the party
That is now 12 MP's forming a nucleus of this group
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47330079
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Re: New Centrist party, Already Polling 8%
by The Devil, You Know Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:26 pm
since 2010 the uk has seen record employments rates, a constantly falling deficit, youth unemployment falling and this month the biggest surplus for many years, I think on the economy the tories haven't done too badly considering the position they started in. Brexit well it's been pretty dismal in getting any progress.Eilzel wrote:The Devil, You Know wrote:
not the best option, the only option, labour could not have created a majority gov even with the ld's
And still did a better job than Labour from 2005-2010 (when they had a majority), and the Tories from 2015 till now (2 years of which they had a majority)
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Re: New Centrist party, Already Polling 8%
by The Devil, You Know Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:06 pm
the shine seems to have gone off the tigs now the reality has set in that they are in it only to stop brexit
CON: 40% LAB: 32% UKIP: 7% TIG: 6% LDEM: 5%
CON: 40% LAB: 32% UKIP: 7% TIG: 6% LDEM: 5%
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Re: New Centrist party, Already Polling 8%
by The Devil, You Know Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:48 pm
they have also said they will prop up the tories should another no confidence vote be called. Of course they will as the first sniff of an election and it is p45's all round, although with a rather more generous payoff than most of us can expect.
if they last the full three years they can expect pay of at least £230grand plus expenses, which in soubreys case last year was another £190grand.
if they last the full three years they can expect pay of at least £230grand plus expenses, which in soubreys case last year was another £190grand.
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Re: New Centrist party, Already Polling 8%
by The Devil, You Know Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:05 pm
this is quite interesting from tomorrows MOS
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Re: New Centrist party, Already Polling 8%
by The Devil, You Know Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:31 am
This is awkward
I wonder why it did not get through and who opposed it
I wonder why it did not get through and who opposed it
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Re: New Centrist party, Already Polling 8%
by nicko Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:02 pm
I wonder, could it be because they are worried, that their constituents would not elect them again, and that they would lose all that lovely money, and a chance to fiddle more of it ? Surely not possible with those "HONERABLE" Members ?
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Re: New Centrist party, Already Polling 8%
by The Devil, You Know Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:00 am
Westminster Voting Intention (Including TIG): CON: 36% (-2) LAB: 23% (-3) TIG: 18% (+4) LDM: 6% (-1) Via @YouGov. Changes w/ 18-19 Feb.
and now it becomes clear why corbyn has offered some fake news on a 2nd ref.
and now it becomes clear why corbyn has offered some fake news on a 2nd ref.
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Re: New Centrist party, Already Polling 8%
by Tommy Monk Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:55 pm
We have already made the decision in the EU referendum.
Leave means leave!!!
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