Survival on a desert island

6 people are shipwrecked on a remote but bountiful desert island.
A politician
An engineer.
A medic
A carpenter
A survivalist
a banker


Who is/are the least useful?

I think the answer sums up why the civilised world is going to hell in a handcart.

Angry Andy wrote:6 people are shipwrecked on a remote but bountiful desert island.
A politician
An engineer.
A medic
A carpenter
A survivalist
a banker


Who is/are the least useful?

I think the answer sums up why the civilised world is going to hell in a handcart.

the politician and the banker are the two most important

not sure about the others

Haha. They are the two Who will be buried on the beach.

Angry Andy wrote:Haha. They are the two Who will be buried on the beach.

damned waste of food then

bankers and politicians are notoriously fat

they'll last for some time i should think (kept out of the sun if poss)

But who would you prefer as your survivalist?
Bear Grylls or Ray Mears?

I dont think then banker and politician are tottally useless, espcially, as we have had some great politicians in history.

At then of the day, the survivors would need a Politician with diplomatic skills and leadership for the group. Where the banker could help establish a system for storing the food and possessions.

Plus the fact, 6 people are going to stand a better chance than four people. As there would be plenty to do for all of them in order to all survive

Not only that some Politicians, held other key previous jobs, or qualifications. Like in the army as officers for example and thus would also be very skilled in survival and more so in defense for the group against potential predators/enemies. Some have even been doctors as well. So it would all depend what background that Politician has also here. Bit hard to then judge without all the facts here.

Surely the medic and the carpenter are the most useful?

medic and engineer

being desert Island the issue is fresh water, and engineers has best hopes of some sort of desalination system

Where would the Engineer get all the equipment to set up a desalination plant !

The island has fresh water, trees and bamboo.
The survivalish will ensure your short and long term chances are good.
The engineer and carpenter can build shelter and a good raft or boat.
The medic will keep you health.
The political will try to make the rules and the banker will try to buy his place at the front of the food queue and place on the boat.

nicko wrote:Where would the Engineer get all the equipment to set up a desalination plant !

considering even at my level of survivalist I can make a water harvester(for getting water from leaves/vegetation) out of Clear plastic, a hole in the ground and a rock to you over estimate what is required.

at a basic level the process is
make steam, catch steam and condense steam
condensed steam is fresh water.

salt water and say the wreckage of a plane/ship would be sufficient to build a desalination unit for a dozen or so people, it wont be pretty but it will work

Angry Andy wrote:The island  has fresh water, trees and bamboo.
The survivalish will ensure your short and long term chances are good.
The engineer and carpenter can build shelter and a good raft or boat.
The medic will keep you health.
The political will try to make the rules and the banker will try to buy his place at the front of the food queue and place on the boat.

So basically it is a life in paradise, what do you need any of these guys for?

Any Island with fresh water has plentiful bird life too. and possibly mammals and reptiles.
You Really don't need many survival skills in this place

Angry Andy wrote:
But who would you prefer as your survivalist?

Bear Grylls or Ray Mears?

Neither of them  --   they don't come from my part of the world.  There are other "survival instructors" out there that I would put ahead of them..

Out of those two, I reckon Ray Mears seems to be more practical and down-to-earth;  while Bear Grylls is more of a showman, trading on his SAS and mountaineering background..


I wouldn't trust a self-declared "survivalist", anyways (and --  I would also add here that most of the well-known survival instructors/"experts", like Grylls, Mears, Krucynski, et al, don't call themselves "survivalists") --  most of those jumpy twats who think of themselves as gung-ho hard-core "survivalists" are in essence ill-bred, overweight and inexperienced xenophobic nutbags who would be at a total loss without their bomb-shelters/boltholes, "bugout bags", Glocks and AR-15s.

As for the lest useful -- neither the politician nor the wanker would get a look in with me, unless they had some other useful experiences and attributes..

Angry Andy wrote:The island  has fresh water, trees and bamboo.
The survivalish will ensure your short and long term chances are good.
The engineer and carpenter can build shelter and a good raft or boat.
The medic will keep you health.
The political will try to make the rules and the banker will try to buy his place at the front of the food queue and place on the boat.

Your deserted island is no longer a "desert" island, if it has fresh water and trees...

And if there's bamboo, that possibly locates the island in in S.E. Asia or near China..

With the engineer and the 'medic', hopefully their training, backgrounds and (hopefully..) more flexible thought processes and analytical/critical thinking could help with problem solving, while if the carpenter is skilled and competent, he could keep the others 'grounded' and focussed, and help with actually achieving practical outcomes.

Where would the Medic get his Med's from ?

Angry Andy wrote:The island  has fresh water, trees and bamboo.
The survivalish will ensure your short and long term chances are good.
The engineer and carpenter can build shelter and a good raft or boat.
The medic will keep you health.
The political will try to make the rules and the banker will try to buy his place at the front of the food queue and place on the boat.

I was waiting for the answer. So true, Andy...a good one.

Of course, each one needs a lawyer to argue his or her case.

nicko wrote:Where would the Medic get his Med's from ?

Same place we get ours from. Nature...

The politician and the banker would not be needed as politician or banker... but just useful as helpers to the others in assisting in doing whatever physical labour was needed for the groups survival...!

At last we have a fun and vaguely interesting thread without insults.
Let's have a few others.

Angry Andy wrote:At last we have a fun and vaguely interesting thread without insults.
Let's have a few others.

fuck off you slag

this thread sucks

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Angry Andy wrote:
But who would you prefer as your survivalist?

Bear Grylls or Ray Mears?

Neither of them  --   they don't come from my part of the world.  There are other "survival instructors" out there that I would put ahead of them..

Out of those two, I reckon Ray Mears seems to be more practical and down-to-earth;  while Bear Grylls is more of a showman, trading on his SAS and mountaineering background..


I wouldn't trust a self-declared "survivalist", anyways (and --  I would also add here that most of the well-known survival instructors/"experts", like Grylls, Mears, Krucynski, et al, don't call themselves "survivalists") --  most of those jumpy twats who think of themselves as gung-ho hard-core "survivalists" are in essence ill-bred, overweight and inexperienced xenophobic nutbags who would be at a total loss without their bomb-shelters/boltholes, "bugout bags", Glocks and AR-15s.

As for the lest useful -- neither the politician nor the wanker would get a look in with me, unless they had some other useful experiences and attributes..

Malcom Douglas will always be the 'great bushman' to me

Russell Coight definitely sets the standard for Aussie survival "experts"...

https://youtu.be/fwfdYnSj5Vg

https://youtu.be/OO8klgF0IyY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Aussie_Adventures

Bear Grylls and Ray Mears aren't a scratch on the ol' Russ'..