We Have an Australian Cathy Newman

I posted up evidence of Veya Newman being Anti-semtic

As seen

veya_victaous wrote:

Peace Would come tomorrow if the Jews stopped Believing that they are a Sky giant's chosen race and given lands for a sky giant saviour to return too...  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic_canard#Accusations_of_racism

Veya Newman then goes into Cathy mode

veya_victaous wrote:


the funniest thing is he says all the time 
"Peace Would come tomorrow if the Palestine stopped..."
so By Didge's own definition he hates Palestine and is Discriminating against Palestinians  

I mean he is too Dumb to notice I literally just put what he said back to him from the other sides perspective... but in typical Zionist style he refuses to even contemplate that there is another perspective and Palestinians are just as much Living breathing Humans as Israelis even if he wants to treat them as vermin..

Now peace will come when the Palestinians stop hating the Jews. That does not mean I am being racist against them. I am rightly speaking out against the hate taught from generation to generation, by the Authorities

Anti-Semitism

• Background & Overview
  
  
• Mein Kampf in the Palestinian Territories
  
  
• School Textbooks
  
  
• Public Sermons
  
  
• Official Statements
  
  

Press Incitement

• Cartoons about 9/11 Attacks
  
  
• Videos of Incitement, Terror and Anti-Semitism
  
  
• Hamas TV: Liberate Jerusalem; Wipe Out Zionists (2007)
  
  
• Press Cartoons in Violation of Road Map (2003)
  
  
• TV Broadcast Teaches Children to Become Martyrs (2001)
  
  
• TV Broadcast Calls for Killing Jews and Americans (2000)
  
  

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/palestinian-anti-semitism

Only an Anti-semite would try to co ver his blatant hatred, by invoking liess

Didge, you are a white supremacist backing your own team. You can't throw spears, then claim victimhood when you are attacked back.

If you want to be a warrior, fine...but try to be a man about it.

Original Quill wrote:Didge, I just make up shit, because I am a weasel

I agree

Didge wrote:

Original Quill wrote:Didge, I just make up shit, because I am a weasel

I agree

DIDGE...ALTERING POSTERS POSTS AND MISREPRESENTING THEM IS A PRIME FORUM OFFENCE, SO BLEEDING OBVIOUS THAT WE DIDNT THINK WE HAD TO SPECIFY IT IN THE RULES...... TO POST A FALSE POST PURPORTING TO BE FROM ANOTHER POSTER IS ANATHEMA

Dont give me any shit about "I didnt know" or...Its not written in the rules... or whatever...this has been a rule of forum life/etiquett since the year dot...every forum I have ever been on took a dim view of it......
It is misrepresentation
It is likely to cause trouble
its just plain wrong
its what the red tops do

DONT DO IT...ever....again

thats not merely a request btw.....

Original Quill wrote:Didge, you are a white supremacist backing your own team.  You can't throw spears, then claim victimhood when you are attacked back.

If you want to be a warrior, fine...but try to be a man about it.

Show me where I have altered his post?

Never did, as that is impossible

I am simple repluy to what I want in my post, which is very much allowed and there is no such rule

I shall await your apology

IF...you wish to alter a posters post for humour......

you MUST use the strike through option and then make clear (for instance by the use of coloured text) what YOU have actually inserted......

dont get clever sonny.....

for the text to read in the part I quoted, either you have made the whole thing up.....and made a "false quote" ...whicH I beleive is beyond you OR you have taken his post as a quote ...erased his words and substituted your own. Either way DONT DO IT

Lord Foul wrote:IF...you wish to alter a posters post for humour......

you MUST use the strike through option and then make clear (for instance by the use of coloured text) what YOU have actually inserted......

I "must"?

What is this, a Communist state now?

Again, its impossible for me to alter his post, what I psot in reply is my buisness

Lord Foul wrote:dont get clever sonny.....

for the text to read in the part I quoted, either you have made the whole thing up.....and made a "false quote" ...whicH I beleive is beyond you OR you have taken his post as a quote ...erased his words and substituted your own. Either way DONT DO IT

So Quill falsely calls me a White Supemacist, because i exposed Veya's antisemitism and I rightly make a mockery of his reply and that leads you to jump in over nothing

wow

Let me guess, who complained?

Andy?

so where exaxtly did the line you qoted above which I copied in my post to YOU come from....

because I KNOW quill did not write that then erase it....

Didge wrote:

Original Quill wrote:Didge, I just make up shit, because I am a weasel

I agree

THIS ONE DIDGE

and no one complained....

I saw it.

Lord Foul wrote:so where exaxtly did the line you qoted above which I copied in my post to YOU come from....

because I KNOW quill did not write that then erase it....

Its my post and i can reply as I please to a unffounded accusation made against me

I mean seriously get a grip of yourself

It was clearly funny and meant to be

So now everytime Quill deletes major parts of posts in reply, I will officaially complain

You want to invoke a dumb rule, then best you look forward to many complaints

Lord Foul wrote:

Didge wrote:


I agree

THIS ONE DIDGE

That is my post, not his

Show me how I can change his post?

I cannot, so stop lying

Didge wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:

THIS ONE DIDGE

That is my post, not his

Show me how I can change his post?

I just cannot stop lying

kinda like that

gelico wrote:

Didge wrote:


That is my post, not his

Show me how I can change his post?

I just cannot stop lying

kinda like that

Indeed Gelico, that is within your post not mine, will Lord Foul now also warn you?

If parts of a post are deleted...provided that doesnt change the meaning or context of the original post and is done merely as a "precis" or in order to quote relevant parts there can be no objection

its NOT the deleting ...its the deleting and adding, either to change the posts meaning OR to insert something that was not there in the first place....

If you MUST alter a posters post (to change the context (for satire/humour))you MUST make
plain what you would erase...i.e use the strike through and then make plain by coloured text what you have added

DO NOT put words into a posters mouth/ falsely attribute words that he/she would not have said....that opens a rotten can of worms.......

Didge wrote:

gelico wrote:

Didge wrote:


That is my post, not his

Show me how I can change his post?

I just cannot stop lying

kinda like that

Indeed Gelico, that is within your post not mine, will Lord Foul now also warn you?

funny the change is within YOUR POST as a quote

how does anyone reading that (except an admin) know that you DIDNT originally write that....then went back and altered your original post?

Lord Foul wrote:If parts of a post are deleted...provided that doesnt change the meaning or context of the original post and is done merely as a "precis" or in order to quote relevant parts there can be no objection

its NOT the deleting ...its the deleting and adding, either to change the posts meaning OR to insert something that was not there in the first place....

If you MUST alter a posters post (to change the context (for satire/humour))you MUST make
plain what you would erase...i.e use the strike through and then make plain by coloured text what you have added

DO NOT put words into a posters mouth/ falsely attribute words that he/she would not have said....that opens a rotten can of worms.......

No worries snowflake, happy to abide with such a petty rule

Lord Foul wrote:

Didge wrote:


Indeed Gelico, that is within your post not mine, will Lord Foul now also warn you?

funny the change is within YOUR POST as a quote

how does anyone reading that (except an admin) know that you DIDNT originally write that....then went back and altered your original post?

lol, so no warning to Gelico then

You cannot make it up ha ha

anyway...this is NOT up for debate....

DONT DO IT....

it has been a rule of forum etiquette since methusela was a lad.....for what I should have thought was very obvious reasons....

No...no warning for geli...becasue she was demonstrating EXACTLY what I was meaning.....

so accepted in that context.......

Original Quill wrote:Didge, you are a white supremacist backing your own team.  You can't throw spears, then claim victimhood when you are attacked back.

If you want to be a warrior, fine...but try to be a man about it.

The point is, in no way do I support any White Supremacy and again this is no more than a divergence to where Veya, has been basically Ant-Semtic, which again the forum does not take seriously. I mean its blatant racism and yet I am pulled up as seen for altering your post.

I am not claiming to be a victim, as I am not a Jew, or a white supremacist. I simple showed up the reply Veya made on a locked thread. He like you made false claims, to things I have not claimed. Again, I stand for a two state solution and to me, its the Palestinian authorities that have always let down the Palestinian people. Hence his views were absurd

Lord Foul wrote:No...no warning for geli...becasue she was demonstrating EXACTLY what I was meaning.....

so accepted in that context.......

No warning for Veya's use of an Antisemitic Canard

I mean surely you can see that also?

Talk about the worst Double standards

Didge wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:dont get clever sonny.....

for the text to read in the part I quoted, either you have made the whole thing up.....and made a "false quote" ...whicH I beleive is beyond you OR you have taken his post as a quote ...erased his words and substituted your own. Either way DONT DO IT

So Quill falsely calls me a White Supemacist, because i exposed Veya's antisemitism and I rightly make a mockery of his reply and that leads you to jump in over nothing

wow

Let me guess, who complained?

Andy?

Don't bring me into your mischief making, you wanker. I have been playing village cricket all afternoon.
Got home 15 mins ago. Scored 25 not out. bowled 8--2-24-2. And got sunburnt.

Angry Andy wrote:

Didge wrote:


So Quill falsely calls me a White Supemacist, because i exposed Veya's antisemitism and I rightly make a mockery of his reply and that leads you to jump in over nothing

wow

Let me guess, who complained?

Andy?

Don't bring me into your mischief making, you wanker. I have been playing village cricket all afternoon.
Got home 15 mins ago. Scored 25 not out. bowled 8--2-24-2. And got sunburnt.

How charming as per usual

My mistake if you did not

Its not a problem, what I have seen here, is a zero faith in moderation

For a Moderator to pull me up on altering posts, whilst blantly ignoring someone else being Anti-semitic, shows how bad the problem of Anti-semitism is becoming.

Didge wrote:

gelico wrote:


kinda like that

Indeed Gelico, that is within your post not mine, will Lord Foul now also warn you?

no the change is made within YOUR post (by me). this is what LF is saying we should not do

gelico wrote:

Didge wrote:


Indeed Gelico, that is within your post not mine, will Lord Foul now also warn you?

no the change is made within YOUR post (by me).  this is what LF is saying we should not do

That is fine, but what about the rule on hate speech?

"Hate speech" -- any member using words or imagery to intentionally and maliciously denigrate people of different races, nationalities, sexual orientations, religious or other beliefs, etc. will be basemented for a term subject to moderator discretion.

How did Lord Foul miss that in the opening post by Veya's comments?

He used an Anti-Semtic canard, which is hate speech

Didge wrote:

Angry Andy wrote:

Don't bring me into your mischief making, you wanker. I have been playing village cricket all afternoon.
Got home 15 mins ago. Scored 25 not out. bowled 8--2-24-2. And got sunburnt.

How charming as per usual

My mistake if you did not

Its not a problem, what I have seen here, is a zero faith in moderation

For a Moderator to pull me up on altering posts, whilst blantly ignoring someone else being Anti-semitic, shows how bad the problem of Anti-semitism is becoming.

but this forum is only about opinions didge

it is your opinion that something is anti semetic

it is your opinion that something is racist

it is your opinion that someone else has ''poor jugement''

i think this place is pretty laid back with regards to peoples opinions which can be argued and pulled apart or defended and backed up depending on how people view them

gelico wrote:

Didge wrote:

How charming as per usual

My mistake if you did not

Its not a problem, what I have seen here, is a zero faith in moderation

For a Moderator to pull me up on altering posts, whilst blantly ignoring someone else being Anti-semitic, shows how bad the problem of Anti-semitism is becoming.

but this forum is only about opinions didge

it is your opinion that something is anti semetic

it is your opinion that something is racist

it is your opinion that someone else has ''poor jugement''

i think this place is pretty laid back with regards to peoples opinions which can be argued and pulled apart or defended and backed up depending on how people view them

You think this is an opinion on what is Anti-Semitic?

veya_victaous wrote:

Peace Would come tomorrow if the Jews stopped Believing that they are a Sky giant's chosen race and given lands for a sky giant saviour to return too...  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic_canard#Accusations_of_racism

Come again?

Didge wrote:

gelico wrote:

but this forum is only about opinions didge

it is your opinion that something is anti semetic

it is your opinion that something is racist

it is your opinion that someone else has ''poor jugement''

i think this place is pretty laid back with regards to peoples opinions which can be argued and pulled apart or defended and backed up depending on how people view them

You think this is an opinion on what is Anti-Semitic?

veya_victaous wrote:

Peace Would come tomorrow if the Jews stopped Believing that they are a Sky giant's chosen race and given lands for a sky giant saviour to return too...  

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic_canard#Accusations_of_racism

Come again?

it is veya's opinion though and many people share that opinion.

i don't personally but i would not call it anti semetic either

I suppose an apology for incorrectly assuming I made a complaint is out of the question?

You were wrong. You mistakenly thought I complained, which is why you mentioned my name.

Truth is, you wind everyone up, a complaint to the post could have come from one of dozens of posters.

I will be gracious in accepting your apology, Didge.

After all, Didge is only too quick to tell the forum world how he is the first to apologise when he is wrong.

gelico wrote:

Didge wrote:

You think this is an opinion on what is Anti-Semitic?




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic_canard#Accusations_of_racism

Come again?

it is veya's opinion though and many people share that opinion.  

i don't personally but i would not call it anti semetic either

wow, so that makes it acceptable for people to make Anti-Semetic hate speech now?

I think not,

This is what makes me laugh, a non-Jew, claiming what is and should not be Anti-Semtic, even though its well documented on what is

This proves how badly Antisemitism is becoming acceptable

So it does not matter whether you think it is or not, Uk and US law certainly does matter.

I wouldn't call it antisemitic either - maybe anti-Judaism. Veya is anti-Christianity as well though.

So based on Gelico's reasoning, we might as well scrap the hate speech rule on here then.

I mean apparantly its not hate speech, but an opinion.

Didge wrote:

gelico wrote:


it is veya's opinion though and many people share that opinion.  

i don't personally but i would not call it anti semetic either

This is what makes me laugh, a non-Jew, claiming what is and should not be Anti-Semtic, even though its well documented on what is

yourself?

Didge wrote:So based on Gelico's reasoning, we might as well scrap the hate speech rule on here then.

I mean apparantly its not hate speech, but an opinion.

I would scrap hate speech laws altogether

gelico wrote:

Didge wrote:



This is what makes me laugh, a non-Jew, claiming what is and should not be Anti-Semtic, even though its well documented on what is

yourself?

I am not claiming what is, am I, what I am using is known documented evidence to what is

I mean blacks and Asians get to define what is racist against them , but not Jews apparantly and again by Non-Jews

He made a reference to Jews as a people, using an antisemitic canard, which is hateful, as if to demonize Jews

That is Antisemitism

I told Ben yesterday, I am a Volunteer for a couple of groups that combat Antisemitism and my fears have come to light, when many here are obviously ignorant on the many different forms of Antisemitism.

You have just proven how little you understand the problem

gelico wrote:

Didge wrote:So based on Gelico's reasoning, we might as well scrap the hate speech rule on here then.

I mean apparantly its not hate speech, but an opinion.

I would scrap hate speech laws altogether

Why?

So then nobody is defended from hate?

The Holocasut did not start with the Gas chambers, it started with words Gelico

Does not the torah tell the jews they are god chosen people?

Lord Foul wrote:Does not the torah tell the jews they are god chosen people?

A number of books and websites run by neo-Nazis, White supremacy advocates, Christian Identity adherents, and radical Islamist groups offer what they claim are authoritative quotes from rabbinic literature, all attempting to prove that Judaism is racist, and that Jews hate non-Jews and perceive non-Jews as non-human.

According to Rabbi Joseph Soloveitchik: "Even as the Jew is moved by his private Sinaitic Covenant with God to embody and preserve the teachings of the Torah, he is committed to the belief that all mankind, of whatever color or creed, is "in His image" and is possessed of an inherent human dignity and worthiness. Man's singularity is derived from the breath "He [God] breathed into his nostrils at the moment of creation" (Genesis 2:7). Thus, we do share in the universal historical experience, and God's providential concern does embrace all of humanity."[60]

According to a 1984 hearing record before the Subcommittee on Human Rights and International Organizations in the US Congress concerning the Soviet Jewry,

"This vicious anti-Semitic canard, frequently repeated by other Soviet writers and officials, is based upon the malicious notion that the "Chosen People" of the Torah and Talmud preaches "superiority over other peoples", as well as exclusivity. This was, of course, the principal theme of the notorious Tsarist Protocols of the Elders of Zion.[61]

The word "Goy" literally means "nation" but has come to be the standard term for anyone who is not Jewish. There are claims by some groups that "Goy" translates to "Animal". These claims are designed to make people believe Jews see them as inferior

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic_canard#Accusations_of_racism

repeating your C&P doesnt change the point

does or does not the torah state that the jews are gods chosen people????
never mind any other issues.....

just answer that?

Lord Foul wrote:repeating your C&P doesnt change the point

does or does not the torah state that the jews are gods chosen people????
never mind any other issues.....

just answer that?

It does state that, but as seen does it state they are a chosen race?

No

As people can as seen convert to judaism

All the abrahamic religions see their believers as chosen and saved

So you think the C&P is not important here, for you to actually understand again how such hateful views form of Jews.

I am very critical of Judaism, it has some of the worst views within the Torah. That though does not mean, its okay to hate Jews as a colective religious and ethnic group, does it? Or as seen promote hateful lies against them.

well I dont hate "Jews" in general.....I could if I got to know them posibly hate a few of them since as you point out "some" are hateful people in their own right
now I dont know (on a personal level) ANY "othodox jews" AFAIK (they are the guys with whiskers and black hats yes?) but those jews I do know are all quite happy go lucky, witty and have a wicked sense of humour. Indeed of all the various religions I have come into contact with these guys seem to tske their religion far less seriously than most (i wonder....is the ethnic side of being a jew more important to some than the "spiritual side????????????)

when THEY make statements like

"you realise we dont so much worship god as blame him"
followed by

"oh god, if we are not supposed to eat bacon...why did you make it smell so delicious"

I some how cant imagine a follower of many other religions being quite so heretical..........

so no...I havnt got it in me to hate an entire group that has peole like that in it....

as for veya

firstly he's needling you ..yep you got his special attention and swallowed the bait

secondly he is to "pagans" what Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is to islam
Its difficult to call him a racist when he hates everyone but veya.........
I think misanthrope defines him best

And there you have it Antisemitism is okay, when its goading someone

It does not matter if he hates everyone, as his hate here was directed at the Jews and not for the first time.

In other words your rules on hate speech are irrelevant.


It seems to me that where people do not take something seriously, then I will.

Didge wrote:And there you have it Antisemitism is okay, when its goading someone

It does not matter if he hates everyone, as his hate here was directed at the Jews and not for the first time.

In other words your rules on hate speech are irrelevant.


It seems to me that where people do not take something seriously, then I will.

You're not going to threaten to report the forum are you?

YOU take things far to seriously, I reckon you have been indoctrinated

Lord Foul wrote:YOU take things far to seriously, I reckon you have been indoctrinated

Well, when some of us have studied history, which is littered with hate, murder, ethnic cleansing, the Holocaust etc, over centuries against the Jews and in so many places. Even more so when Antisemitism is rising today and I am a volunteer to groups that tackle this. To lay claim I am indoctrinated has all the hallmarks of someone who blatantly has not learnt a damn thing from the history of this hate.

To me now, you have zero integrity

Raggamuffin wrote:

Didge wrote:And there you have it Antisemitism is okay, when its goading someone

It does not matter if he hates everyone, as his hate here was directed at the Jews and not for the first time.

In other words your rules on hate speech are irrelevant.


It seems to me that where people do not take something seriously, then I will.

You're not going to threaten to report the forum are you?

I have no need to and nor would I need to. 

What I will do now, is make it a daily effort to educate people on here, of this hate.

That is what is needed more than anything. As seen, when a Mod can claim I am indoctrinated, simple for standing up to one of the oldest prejudices. You then realise how bad an understanding people have on here of antisemitism

Raggamuffin wrote:I wouldn't call it antisemitic either - maybe anti-Judaism. Veya is anti-Christianity as well though.

true I am anti Abrahamism as it is a make believe fairytale that has done enormous damage to Humanity.
and Unlike Didge I am not a Hypocrite