Hundreds of illegal immigrants attack police in a town in Germany

200 migrants attack police cars sent to deport a single refugee in Germany and force officers to flee - buying their friend time to escape

Asylum seekers swarmed around three police cars sent to take him to airport 
They hammered on the police vehicles so hard the cars were damaged 
Police unable to send more reinforcements because it would've taken too long 
The man they wanted to deport has now fled and gone into hiding, say police

Migrants have forced police to abandon plans to deport a single refugee from a home in Germany.
Two hundred asylum seekers described as 'mostly African' swarmed around three police cars dispatched to take their fellow refugee to an airport where a plane waited to fly him to the Congo.
Then they issued an ultimatum - take the handcuffs from their friend and set him free or risk 'massive violence.'

Police said they had no choice but to free the man in order to avoid bloodshed.
Angry migrants hammered on the police vehicles so forcefully that all three were dented. The authorities said the officers feared for their lives and had to beat a retreat.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5682585/Migrants-attack-police-cars-sent-deport-single-refugee-Germany-allowing-escape.html#ixzz5ESvoM74Z


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/migrants-germany-prevent-deportation-congo-ellwangen-a8333251.html

How is it possible that illegals can abuse police this way. It's so wrong.

Welcome to our brave new world, where the law depends on if you are in over whelming numbers - might is right, just like in these peoples homelands.

This is the result of lefty stupidity...


It is lefty thinking that has allowed an army of millions of hostile 3rd world illegal immigrants into european countries...


Common sense voices of caution have been systematically shouted down as 'racist' by the idiot leftys over recent years...


So what now...!?

it's not lefty stupidity it EUROPEAN STUPIDTY

it's not happening in other lefty countries, it happens in EUROPE
in nations that haven't had an incoming population migration in AGES!!!

Has anyone asked why hundreds of people would turn out to try to stop this deportation?

Sounds to me like they felt quite passionate about it, like maybe to them, at least, this was really unfair.

I know that gets in the way of seeing them as a pack of wild animals, but you've heard that there are two sides to every story, right? Or did I just make that up?

veya_victaous wrote:it's not lefty stupidity it EUROPEAN STUPIDTY

it's not happening in other lefty countries, it happens in EUROPE
in nations that haven't had an incoming population migration in AGES!!!  

Too true, that...

Tommy wouldn't recognise a genuine "lefty" if he tripped over one..

Let's not forget, either, that Tommy considers Merkel and her centre-right gov't to be a bunch of rabid "lefties" !

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P.S. Where is the evidence that all those people were "illegal immigrants"  ???

In their poor reporting in the o/p, the DailyFlail itself hops back and forth between calling the mob "migrants", "asylum seekers", and "illegal immigrants" --  three completely different classes of people..

Can't even get their own lazy rabble-rousing and xenophobic efforts in order  !

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/new-book-suggests-angela-merkel-was-closer-to-communism-than-thought-a-899768.html



Also... how can anyone here try to justify a 200 strong violent mob attacking police, who were just trying to do their job of enforcing a legally binding court order to detain and deport an illegal immigrant...!!!???

Many people feel passionate about people and issues, they don't generally turn into a mob and threaten violence. There's a rule of law without it we are all just a mob.

Tommy Monk wrote:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/new-book-suggests-angela-merkel-was-closer-to-communism-than-thought-a-899768.html



Also... how can anyone here try to justify a 200 strong violent mob attacking police, who were just trying to do their job of enforcing a legally binding court order to detain and deport an illegal immigrant...!!!???

Violent? Were any police hurt?

These people are shipped to Italy and dumped on the streets with nothing -- they're terrified.

Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/new-book-suggests-angela-merkel-was-closer-to-communism-than-thought-a-899768.html



Also... how can anyone here try to justify a 200 strong violent mob attacking police, who were just trying to do their job of enforcing a legally binding court order to detain and deport an illegal immigrant...!!!???

Violent? Were any police hurt?

These people are shipped to Italy and dumped on the streets with nothing -- they're terrified.

Damage to vehicles counts as violence. Why would you excuse that?

Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/new-book-suggests-angela-merkel-was-closer-to-communism-than-thought-a-899768.html



Also... how can anyone here try to justify a 200 strong violent mob attacking police, who were just trying to do their job of enforcing a legally binding court order to detain and deport an illegal immigrant...!!!???

Violent? Were any police hurt?

These people are shipped to Italy and dumped on the streets with nothing -- they're terrified.

Are you trying to justify violence by that?

Look many people suffer, which is always wrong, but are you claiming that justifies violence?

You do realise that some criminals gain entry off people seeking sanctuary?

I am sure many of those terrified, are terrified of those that control them as slaves, like the people that ship them there. Being as they are slave traders

How the fuck can you make excuses here?

Where does Italy come into this anyway?

Raggamuffin wrote:Where does Italy come into this anyway?

Oh look, another subject you don't really know anything about.

Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:Where does Italy come into this anyway?

Oh look, another subject you don't really know anything about.

Why don't you just answer the question instead of trying to be "clever"?

These people ship themselves to Italy... after travelling half way across the continent of Africa... with plenty of money to do so... and passing through plenty of safe places on their way...


Are you seriously trying to tell me that there is no safe place for any of them in the vast continent of Africa...!?


Are you saying that African people are really that hostile and violent that there are no safe places for Africans there...!!!???

Tommy Monk wrote:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/new-book-suggests-angela-merkel-was-closer-to-communism-than-thought-a-899768.html


Also... how can anyone here try to justify a 200 strong violent mob attacking police, who were just trying to do their job of enforcing a legally binding court order to detain and deport an illegal immigrant...!!!???

I haven't yet seen anyone here going so far as to try and "justify" that mob's bad behaviour, Tommy...

All that I've attacked in that regard is the way that the Daily Flail reported that incident -- in the report that you linked to, the Daily Flail reporter can't even decide whether those rioters were asylum seekers, legal migrants, or illegal immigrants..

If he can't even get the basics down pat, why should I believe any of the other bullshit he writes ?

Maybe they were a mix of all those designations.
I wouldn't think its the kind of thing you do if you want to make a good impression and be an acceptable applicant for legal status in a country.
What happens if you do get permission to stay and you want something but don't get it, so you get violent?

1. The link says  'migrants' yet the title says 'illegal immigrants'. That's quite a leap.
 
2. The link says TWO hundred (probably less than that but approximated to a round figure) yet the title says 'hundreds'. Another leap.



Is artistic licence being used here, to spice up the story?

Or is it good old fashioned Chinese Whispers Syndrome, where each time the story is relayed, more spin is added.

The term 'migrants' is a soft pc term that has been used in recent couple years... short for 'illegal immigrants'...


They arrive illegally and then try to abuse the asylum rules to stay...!


The article is pretty clear... and other articles are available if you care to look...

Tommy Monk wrote:The term 'migrants' is a soft pc term that has been used in recent couple years... short for 'illegal immigrants'...


They arrive illegally and then try to abuse the asylum rules to stay...!


The article is pretty clear... and other articles are available if you care to look...

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Tommy Monk wrote:The term 'migrants' is a soft pc term that has been used in recent couple years... short for 'illegal immigrants'...


They arrive illegally and then try to abuse the asylum rules to stay...!


The article is pretty clear... and other articles are available if you care to look...

So you are calling my parents illegal immigrants, you geranium? You are claiming migrants from Malta and Ireland are illegal?

Really?

The only thing not right, is your racist mindset.

And you wonder why people think you are no more than a racist twat?

My grand parents did more for this country, than you will ever hope to achieve you racist twat and neither lived here. They fought for the British empire, to ensure you could have a free education and health service you fucking racist twat

These people are rounded up from their homes and put on a boat to Italy where they are dumped on the street, homeless.

Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly wrote:These people are rounded up from their homes and put on a boat to Italy where they are dumped on the street, homeless.

Are you serious?

Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly wrote:These people are rounded up from their homes and put on a boat to Italy where they are dumped on the street, homeless.

They're not rounded up Ben, they pay thousands to get on the boats, knowing exactly where they're going.

Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly wrote:These people are rounded up from their homes and put on a boat to Italy where they are dumped on the street, homeless.

They leave their homes voluntarily.   But they get picked off en route by Libyan slave traders as they try to make their way to the Med coast and Italy.


"Migrants are being sold in the market as a commodity," he said. "Selling human beings is becoming a trend among smugglers as the smuggling networks in Libya are becoming stronger and stronger."

The refugees and migrants - many from Nigeria, Senegal and The Gambia - are captured as they head north towards Libya's Mediterranean coast, where some try to catch boats for Italy.

Along the way, they are prey to an array of armed groups and people-smuggling networks that often try to extort extra money in exchange for allowing them to continue.  Libya is the main gateway for people attempting to reach Europe by sea, with more than 150,000 people making the crossing in each of the past three years.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/iom-african-migrants-traded-libya-slave-markets-170411141809641.html

“It is shame that is keeping me here. I cannot disappoint my family. They are the reason why we are here. We are here to help them confront their problems. Before we succeed in doing that, we can’t go back.”  Bamba Drissa from Ivory Coast was one of the 61,532 migrants who crossed the Mediterranean in January 2016.

https://thewire.in/external-affairs/migrants-in-italy-shame-is-keeping-us-here

You really can't blame these people for trying to get a better life. But sadly, they're finding the streets of Europe are not paved with gold, and that living conditions are probably worse for many of them than at home.

Though a matter of prestige in African communities, the majority of migrants still leave home out of poverty. A study conducted by the International Organization for Migration (IOM) in Libya last year showed that 80% of migrants left home because of economic hardship. Seven percent left because of a lack of basic services such as education or health care in their home country, and only 5% fled violent conflicts.

But we have our own poverty in our own countries too. It's all relative. How on earth does any country hope to sustain millions of migrants from a country the size of Africa? it's impossible. Sooner or later, it's going to have to stop.

HoratioTarr wrote:Though a matter of prestige in African communities, the majority of migrants still leave home out of poverty. A study conducted by the International Organization for Migration (IOM) in Libya last year showed that 80% of migrants left home because of economic hardship. Seven percent left because of a lack of basic services such as education or health care in their home country, and only 5% fled violent conflicts.

But we have our own poverty in our own countries too.   It's all relative.    How on earth does any country hope to sustain millions of migrants from a country the size of Africa?   it's impossible.   Sooner or later, it's going to have to stop.

You compare poverty in the Uk to Africa?

Seriously?

Where do you think our ancestors came from?

Africa by any chance?

Should we stop all animal migrations or just humans?

Didge wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:Though a matter of prestige in African communities, the majority of migrants still leave home out of poverty. A study conducted by the International Organization for Migration (IOM) in Libya last year showed that 80% of migrants left home because of economic hardship. Seven percent left because of a lack of basic services such as education or health care in their home country, and only 5% fled violent conflicts.

But we have our own poverty in our own countries too.   It's all relative.    How on earth does any country hope to sustain millions of migrants from a country the size of Africa?   it's impossible.   Sooner or later, it's going to have to stop.

You compare poverty in the Uk to Africa?

Seriously?

Where do you think our ancestors came from?

Africa by any chance?

Should we stop all animal migrations or just humans?

The world and the population has changed quite a lot since the migrations of our ancestors out of Africa, I can't see how you can compare the two.
As for animals we are stopping and disrupting the annual migrations of a lot of animals, haven't seen many boarding any kind of boat to get to Europe, although there have been a few cases.
As for poverty of course it is relative, you have to take into account how much you get in income with how much it takes you to exist, ask the food bank recipients or someone with no where to live in the depths of a European winter.

Vintage wrote:

Didge wrote:

You compare poverty in the Uk to Africa?

Seriously?

Where do you think our ancestors came from?

Africa by any chance?

Should we stop all animal migrations or just humans?

The world and the population has changed quite a lot since the migrations of our ancestors out of Africa, I can't see how you can compare the two.
As for animals we are stopping and disrupting the annual migrations of a lot of animals, haven't seen many boarding any kind of boat to get to Europe, although there have been a few cases.
As for poverty of course it is relative, you have to take into account how much you get in income with how much it takes you to exist, ask the food bank recipients or someone with no where to live in the depths of a European winter.

Easily, as again, were you not taught to share as a child, or did you lose this lesson as an adult?

Some how when this comes to sharing land, humans, happen to be the most selfish and the most destructive of all the animals.

So again you compare poverty in Afirca to the UK, which it has to be said, is about as ridiculous as it gets.

Do you even know what the average wage people have in Africa to the UK?

You have people like yourself sit back and think, because you are born geographically in once place, that this some hows make you believe that you can decide where other humans can live

That is inherantly selfish and again to nothing you did, but how again this country is wealthy, based on the rape of Africa, through colonialism. You then begrudge people coming from there to better their lives here

Go Figure

Jules wrote:1. The link says  'migrants' yet the title says 'illegal immigrants'. That's quite a leap.
 
2. The link says TWO hundred (probably less than that but approximated to a round figure) yet the title says 'hundreds'. Another leap.



Is artistic licence being used here, to spice up the story?

Or is it good old fashioned Chinese Whispers Syndrome, where each time the story is relayed, more spin is added.

The thread title is my wording... and I had enough space to write 'illegal immigrants' in full... while article headlines generally have a limited space and words are trimmed down to be able to fit more words in to that headline space...


The rest of the article is clear enough about them...


So stop nit picking and face up to what has actually happened...!

Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly wrote:These people are rounded up from their homes and put on a boat to Italy where they are dumped on the street, homeless.

These particular people? Where is the evidence for that?

HoratioTarr wrote:

Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly wrote:These people are rounded up from their homes and put on a boat to Italy where they are dumped on the street, homeless.

They leave their homes voluntarily.   But they get picked off en route by Libyan slave traders as they try to make their way to the Med coast and Italy.


"Migrants are being sold in the market as a commodity," he said. "Selling human beings is becoming a trend among smugglers as the smuggling networks in Libya are becoming stronger and stronger."

The refugees and migrants - many from Nigeria, Senegal and The Gambia - are captured as they head north towards Libya's Mediterranean coast, where some try to catch boats for Italy.

Along the way, they are prey to an array of armed groups and people-smuggling networks that often try to extort extra money in exchange for allowing them to continue.  Libya is the main gateway for people attempting to reach Europe by sea, with more than 150,000 people making the crossing in each of the past three years.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/iom-african-migrants-traded-libya-slave-markets-170411141809641.html

“It is shame that is keeping me here.  I cannot disappoint my family. They are the reason why we are here. We are here to help them confront their problems. Before we succeed in doing that, we can’t go back.”  Bamba Drissa from Ivory Coast was one of the 61,532 migrants who crossed the Mediterranean in January 2016.

https://thewire.in/external-affairs/migrants-in-italy-shame-is-keeping-us-here

Yes... they do pay people to help get them over borders/checkpoints illegally... that does not make them 'slaves' or 'trafficked'...


And 'Bamba Drissa' is talking shit!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:
The term 'migrants' is a soft pc term that has been used in recent couple years... short for 'illegal immigrants'...

They arrive illegally and then try to abuse the asylum rules to stay...!

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Total deflective bullshit from you there, Tommy...

The noun "migrant" is a legally and commonly recognised term that has been in use for hundreds of years...

The root word being "migration", and with other derivatives including immigrants (inward migration..), emigrants (outward migration), as well as "illegal immigrants" (pretty well self-explanatory..).

Refugees and Asylum seekers don't become "illegal immigrants" until their applications are denied, and they are then recognised and classifieds as illegals..

Your pathetic efforts at rewriting both the English language, and the truth behind current events simply won't wash...

Better luck next time, Tommykins !

How about calling them "invaders" it does seem like it.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly wrote:These people are rounded up from their homes and put on a boat to Italy where they are dumped on the street, homeless.

These particular people? Where is the evidence for that?

I've searched and can't find any links to people being rounded up from their homes and forced into boats to Italy.

They come here by choice, illegally, and pay to use the services of smugglers...


They arrive illegally, then try to blag the asylum system to be allowed to stay...


It's pretty clear... and Ben is talking utter rubbish, either deliberately lying, or a misguided fool...!

Sean McGinley, head of the Baden-Württemberg Refugee Council's office, told DW that the Ellwangen center had not been considered particularly problematic before Monday's incident — though he said it was one of about half-a-dozen in the state. "There are some general difficulties with these first-reception centers when it comes to these people," he said. "There are conditions there that are not okay, and that are in some cases legally questionable — but I don't know to what extent that can explain the events in the last few days. I do know that people who are deported to Italy are often left on the streets, and that it is understandable that people feel like they are in an emergency situation and that they are very scared, and they want to do whatever they can to prevent it."

"The fact that it is legal to send people away is beyond question, but on a human level you are putting people in an extreme situation," he added.

http://www.dw.com/en/german-police-catch-fugitive-asylum-seeker-following-raid/a-43638039

Illegal immigrants deported back to Italy... any temporary taxpayer funded accommodation they may have enjoyed was never any of 'their homes' either...!

Jules wrote:1. The link says  'migrants' yet the title says 'illegal immigrants'. That's quite a leap.
 
2. The link says TWO hundred (probably less than that but approximated to a round figure) yet the title says 'hundreds'. Another leap.



Is artistic licence being used here, to spice up the story?

Or is it good old fashioned Chinese Whispers Syndrome, where each time the story is relayed, more spin is added.

Tommy means people of color, but "illegals" gets the point across doubly. He means: they are the wrong color, and we don't want them!

Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly wrote:

Sean McGinley, head of the Baden-Württemberg Refugee Council's office, told DW that the Ellwangen center had not been considered particularly problematic before Monday's incident — though he said it was one of about half-a-dozen in the state. "There are some general difficulties with these first-reception centers when it comes to these people," he said. "There are conditions there that are not okay, and that are in some cases legally questionable — but I don't know to what extent that can explain the events in the last few days. I do know that people who are deported to Italy are often left on the streets, and that it is understandable that people feel like they are in an emergency situation and that they are very scared, and they want to do whatever they can to prevent it."

"The fact that it is legal to send people away is beyond question, but on a human level you are putting people in an extreme situation," he added.

http://www.dw.com/en/german-police-catch-fugitive-asylum-seeker-following-raid/a-43638039

That particular man was to be deported to Italy because Italy was his point of arrival where he should have claimed asylum. He was hardly being uprooted from his "home".

There was a programme about migrants with reporters following a few on their journey. One young man from Sub Saharan Africa was being sent by his family to get into Europe to send money back to keep them in the
manner they were accustomed to, their house was quite nice, the furnishings were those large ultra shiny highly decorated cabinets, settees and chairs (Italian I believe) there were a few brothers and sisters and his big fat mama done up to the nines giving him orders that now his father was dead he was to provide for the family. It didn't say what the father had done or why he hadn't followed in his footsteps, they certainly didn't look hand to mouth, all being over weight.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly wrote:

http://www.dw.com/en/german-police-catch-fugitive-asylum-seeker-following-raid/a-43638039

That particular man was to be deported to Italy because Italy was his point of arrival where he should have claimed asylum. He was hardly being uprooted from his "home".

Exactly. One would think he'd been dragged screaming from his own home and family and forced to sail to Italy. I suspect most of these people are fed lies about how amazing their life is going to be in European countries, mostly in order to be fleeced of a few grand by the traffickers. And one has to ask how on earth they afford that few grand in the first place?

+1000

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben Mothafuckin' Reilly wrote:

Sean McGinley, head of the Baden-Württemberg Refugee Council's office, told DW that the Ellwangen center had not been considered particularly problematic before Monday's incident — though he said it was one of about half-a-dozen in the state. "There are some general difficulties with these first-reception centers when it comes to these people," he said. "There are conditions there that are not okay, and that are in some cases legally questionable — but I don't know to what extent that can explain the events in the last few days. I do know that people who are deported to Italy are often left on the streets, and that it is understandable that people feel like they are in an emergency situation and that they are very scared, and they want to do whatever they can to prevent it."

"The fact that it is legal to send people away is beyond question, but on a human level you are putting people in an extreme situation," he added.

http://www.dw.com/en/german-police-catch-fugitive-asylum-seeker-following-raid/a-43638039

That particular man was to be deported to Italy because Italy was his point of arrival where he should have claimed asylum. He was hardly being uprooted from his "home".

So he'd been to Germany on vacation, huh?

You cannot blame people for trying to escape a living hell through any means possible.

Illegal immigrants trying to blag the asylum system to get to stay, and all in pursuit of their own personal financial gain...!

Tommy Monk wrote:Illegal immigrants trying to blag the asylum system to get to stay, and all in pursuit of their own personal financial gain...!

Surely not the vast majority of them are doing that. Are you trying to say there's not one person among these people fleeing from ISIS who's genuinely terrified and just trying to get into a country that isn't a war zone?

Do people have the right to seek a peaceful place to live, or not?