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Post by veya_victaous Tue 13 Feb 2018 - 4:53

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A suspected poacher was mauled to death and eaten by a pack of lions close to the Kruger National Park in South Africa, police said Monday, adding that little was left of the victim's body.

The remains were found at the weekend in the bush at a private game park near Hoedspruit in the northern province of Limpopo, where animals have been poached in increasing numbers over recent years.

"It seems the victim was poaching in the game park when he was attacked and killed by lions. They ate his body, nearly all of it, and just left his head and some remains," Limpopo police spokesman Moatshe Ngoepe told AFP.

A loaded hunting rifle was found near the body on Saturday morning. Police are trying to establish the victim's identity.

Last year, several lions were found poisoned near a farm in the same province with their heads and paws sawn off.

Lion body parts are used in traditional medicine.

Poachers also often target rhinoceroses in South Africa's game parks to feed a booming demand for rhino horn in China, Vietnam and other Asian countries, where it is believed to have medicinal qualities.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/suspected-poacher-eaten-by-lions-in-south-africa/ar-BBJ2gJ1?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=ientp

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Post by veya_victaous Thu 15 Feb 2018 - 4:07

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nicko wrote:Do you give a fuck about anything ?

Oh yes. I give a lot of fucks. In fact I’m a prostitute of feelings.

I did answer your post earlier in the thread and I asked you a question: what do you do, or what did you do, to ever help animals’ suffering?
Do you still eat meat and wear leather?

If so.  Big fat hypocrite. Razz

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it's not Hypocritical at all.


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Post by 'Wolfie Thu 15 Feb 2018 - 5:32

Basketball

Another relevant point :

Animals aren't farmed or hunted specifically to produce leather, or offal, or blood and bone, or gelatine, or "catgut", or cows horn, or horse hair or camel hair...

ALL of these are by-products from the processing of animals for meat, or in the case of those animals grown for wool, or milk, or eggs, their older meat is often used for petfood (and for hamburger mince within the USA as well..).

Not wearing leather, or buying manures and blood&bone for the garden, or even wearing wool, in the name of 'Vegan' ideology, will have bugger all effect on livestock farming.

But it will mean more petrochemical-based plastics polluting our environment..

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Post by Maddog Thu 15 Feb 2018 - 5:42

WhoseYourWolfie wrote: Basketball

Another relevant point :

Animals aren't farmed or hunted specifically to produce leather, or offal, or blood and bone, or gelatine, or "catgut", or cows horn, or horse hair or camel hair...

ALL of these are by-products from the processing of animals for meat, or in the case of those animals grown for wool, or milk, or eggs, their older meat is often used for petfood (and for hamburger mince within the USA as well..).

Not wearing leather, or buying manures and blood&bone for the garden, or even wearing wool, in the name of 'Vegan' ideology, will have bugger all effect on livestock farming.

But it will mean more petrochemical-based plastics polluting our environment..

So no mink coats for you eh? tongue

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Post by 'Wolfie Thu 15 Feb 2018 - 6:09

Maddog wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote: Basketball

Another relevant point :

Animals aren't farmed or hunted specifically to produce leather, or offal, or blood and bone, or gelatine, or "catgut", or cows horn, or horse hair or camel hair...

ALL of these are by-products from the processing of animals for meat, or in the case of those animals grown for wool, or milk, or eggs, their older meat is often used for petfood (and for hamburger mince within the USA as well..).

Not wearing leather, or buying manures and blood&bone for the garden, or even wearing wool, in the name of 'Vegan' ideology, will have bugger all effect on livestock farming.

But it will mean more petrochemical-based plastics polluting our environment..

So no mink coats for you eh?   tongue

Exclamation

Notice that I didn't list furs and hides among those by-products...

Does anybody farm the likes of mink and ermine over there ?   I'm not aware of anybody doing so around here..

Mink is imported into Australia from places like Russia and England;  possum fur products from NZ.

Apparently, with cowhides, sheepskin and pigskin, more hides are produced in abattoirs in Oz, Britain, the USA and Canada than are used by local tanneries these days, so that surplus are often being turned into fertiliser or used as landfill..

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Post by Maddog Thu 15 Feb 2018 - 6:14

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Maddog wrote:

So no mink coats for you eh?   tongue

Exclamation

Notice that I didn't list furs and hides among those by-products...

Does anybody farm the likes of mink and ermine over there ?   I'm not aware of anybody doing so around here..

Mink is imported into Australia from places like Russia and England;  possum fur products from NZ.

Apparently, with cowhides, sheepskin and pigskin, more hides are produced in abattoirs in Oz, Britain, the USA and Canada than are used by local tanneries these days, so that surplus are often being turned into fertiliser or used as landfill..

I think there might be some mink farms up north. Texas is a shitty climate for furs. I imagine Australia isn't any better.

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Post by eddie Thu 15 Feb 2018 - 8:08

veya_victaous wrote:
eddie wrote:
nicko wrote:Do you give a fuck about anything ?

Oh yes. I give a lot of fucks. In fact I’m a prostitute of feelings.

I did answer your post earlier in the thread and I asked you a question: what do you do, or what did you do, to ever help animals’ suffering?
Do you still eat meat and wear leather?

If so.  Big fat hypocrite. Razz

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it's not Hypocritical at all.




Hahahahah whatever. You all keep telling yourselves how utterly utterly you adore animals whilst you eat them and wear their skins and kiss your doggies on the mouth.

I may come across as unfeeling because I won’t die for a cat or starve for a dog but at least I’m not a hypocrite.

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Post by nicko Thu 15 Feb 2018 - 9:02

Neither am I, your just a brainwashed idiot.
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Post by eddie Thu 15 Feb 2018 - 15:21

nicko wrote:Neither am I, your just a brainwashed idiot.    

What am I brainwshed by? Do tell!

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Post by nicko Thu 15 Feb 2018 - 15:59

You'v fell for the Vegan bullshit !
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Post by Raggamuffin Thu 15 Feb 2018 - 16:37

nicko wrote:


I do drop the occasional fuck,

Sorry, but that bit made me titter. lol!

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Post by eddie Thu 15 Feb 2018 - 18:13

nicko wrote:You'v fell for the Vegan bullshit !

You know, perhaps if you uttered more than a single sentence this conversation would have been over by now, because dude, it’s so slow I’m almost asleep.

What vegan bullshit?

Please try to include some information and/or explanation in your answer or seriously don’t bother.

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Post by nicko Thu 15 Feb 2018 - 18:43

Whatever, Sleep Sleep Sleep Sleep
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Post by veya_victaous Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 0:33

eddie wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
eddie wrote:
nicko wrote:Do you give a fuck about anything ?

Oh yes. I give a lot of fucks. In fact I’m a prostitute of feelings.

I did answer your post earlier in the thread and I asked you a question: what do you do, or what did you do, to ever help animals’ suffering?
Do you still eat meat and wear leather?

If so.  Big fat hypocrite. Razz

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it's not Hypocritical at all.




Hahahahah whatever. You all keep telling yourselves how utterly utterly you adore animals whilst you eat them and wear their skins and kiss your doggies on the mouth.

I may come across as unfeeling because I won’t die for a cat or starve for a dog but at least I’m not a hypocrite.


You seem to have forgotten
We are all Animals, we are by nature and evolution Omnivorous Apex Predators (which through further social evolution developed Domestication). So I am only functioning as a human's evolutionary nature intends.

Also who said I wouldn't eat dog? Suspect Suspect Suspect
I wouldn't eat MY dogs, but I'm pretty sure I have been served some in a Combination Laksa before geek
Same as I wouldn't eat MY Friends and Family but If shit hit the fan anyone else is fair game, ask the Papuans nothing wrong with a bit of 'long pig' Cool Cool Cool

SO No Hypocrisy Just acceptance of the Natural Circle of Life, haven't you watched the Lion King Razz Razz Razz



Using Your logic, do you hate fungus or love it?
IF you love apple trees does that mean you can't eat apples?

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Post by 'Wolfie Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 1:15

flower

Fish have feelings too...

As do plants..

Doesn't stop eddie from eating them, does it !

Such hypocrisy on eddie's part..

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Post by 'Wolfie Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 1:20

eddie wrote:
nicko wrote:You'v fell for the Vegan bullshit !

You know, perhaps if you uttered more than a single sentence this conversation would have been over by now, because dude, it’s so slow I’m almost asleep.

What vegan bullshit?

Please try to include some information and/or explanation in your answer or seriously don’t bother.

Rolling Eyes

Come on now, eddie...

You have been peddling Vegan propaganda nonsense on here for a good while now, apparently never bothering to do your homework to check their veracity but only taking it as a given..

Just like those lies you posted about dairy farming last week -- despite being disproven over and over, you just keep on repeating their lies.

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Post by Ben Reilly Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 1:25

nicko wrote:Whatever, Sleep Sleep Sleep Sleep

If you can't back up the things you say, you shouldn't say them, should you?

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Post by Maddog Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 1:45

Ben Reilly wrote:
nicko wrote:Whatever, Sleep Sleep Sleep Sleep

If you can't back up the things you say, you shouldn't say them, should you?

Wait!!!!!


When did that become a prerequisite to posting in this joint? Wink

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Post by nicko Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 6:18

I don't have to back up anything, it's there for all to see. !
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Post by eddie Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 10:39

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
eddie wrote:
nicko wrote:You'v fell for the Vegan bullshit !

You know, perhaps if you uttered more than a single sentence this conversation would have been over by now, because dude, it’s so slow I’m almost asleep.

What vegan bullshit?

Please try to include some information and/or explanation in your answer or seriously don’t bother.

Rolling Eyes

Come on now,  eddie...

You have been peddling Vegan propaganda nonsense on here for a good while now,  apparently never bothering to do your homework to check their veracity but only taking it as a given..

Just like those lies you posted about dairy farming last week --  despite being disproven over and over, you just keep on repeating their lies.


You know fuck all about farming and methods in England. So I’ll not even bother talking to you about it. You keep spouting your lies though and reading your propaganda.

And we shall see who is right. Cos time will tell.

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Post by eddie Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 10:43

nicko wrote:I don't have to back up anything,   it's there for all to see.  !

No, the only thing that’s there is you ranting on like a demented old fool and not answering questions and then posting sleep emoticons.

I suggest you go and eat a big fat bacon sandwich and shake your stick at people who are mean to pigs.


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Post by nicko Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 10:59

What questions ?
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Post by Raggamuffin Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 11:36

I don't know why people argue about this stuff really. I don't eat meat, but I eat fish. I don't usually wear leather, and I don't like cosmetics containing animal or which has been tested on animals. However, this is what I'm comfortable with - it's just a personal choice.

Others might eat meat and wear leather, but object to hunting. Some might not eat meat but think that hunting is OK.

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Post by eddie Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 12:13

Yeah. I think I’m going to leave it there. Rolling Eyes

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Post by eddie Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 13:08

THE PARADOX: WHEN PEOPLE SAY THEY LOVE ANIMALS BUT EAT MEAT

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Post by nicko Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 13:30

I love animals, but I would not like a Cow in bed with me ! Bye the way, if God didn't want us to eat meat, why did he make it so tasty?
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Post by 'Wolfie Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 15:43

eddie wrote:
WhoseYourWolfie wrote:
Rolling Eyes

Come on now,  eddie...

You have been peddling Vegan propaganda nonsense on here for a good while now,  apparently never bothering to do your homework to check their veracity but only taking it as a given..

Just like those lies you posted about dairy farming last week --  despite being disproven over and over, you just keep on repeating their lies.

You know fuck all about farming and methods in England. So I’ll not even bother talking to you about it.  You keep spouting your lies though and reading your propaganda.

And we shall see who is right. Cos time will tell.

 
Rolling Eyes

Your the one who obviously knows nothing about farming, eddie --  anywhere..

I know more about agriculture than you ever possibly could --  your blatant ignorance speaks volumes..   Indeed, I have forgotten more about farming than you will ever know.

With regards to farming practices in Britain, I will listen to those English folk who actually know what they're talking about in this regard --   both with the likes of nicko, Victor and Fred on this forum; and English expats living out here, as well as those Hawkesbury lecturers who have "walked the walk"..


I went to Ag college (Uni' Western Sydney..);  you clearly didn't..
I have worked on dairy farms;  you obviously haven't --  as everybody here can plainly see.

You have the hide to repeatedly call me a "liar"  --   but not once have you actually produced these "lies" that I'm supposedly guilty of..

I reckon most people on here can see who the real liar is on this thread  --  and that's not me,  nor nicko, nor veya...

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Post by Maddog Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 17:44

Raggamuffin wrote:I don't know why people argue about this stuff really. I don't eat meat, but I eat fish. I don't usually wear leather, and I don't like cosmetics containing animal or which has been tested on animals. However, this is what I'm comfortable with - it's just a personal choice.

Others might eat meat and wear leather, but object to hunting. Some might not eat meat but think that hunting is OK.

I know a pescatarian horse owner that has given up on domestic meat.

But she will shoot and consume a deer.

Funny old world eh?

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Post by eddie Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 18:45

nicko wrote:I love animals,  but I would not like a Cow in bed with me !    Bye the way,  if God didn't want us to eat meat, why did he make it so tasty?

Yeah and so is sugar and alcohol and cigarettes and they can all kill you so....?

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Post by Syl Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 18:49

The song is right that says all good things are 'immoral, illegal, or they make you fat'.

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Post by eddie Fri 16 Feb 2018 - 20:22

Syl wrote:The song is right that says all good things are 'immoral, illegal, or they make you fat'.

Yeah. If only lettuce-juice was a natural high. One day....maybe.

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