the Hunter became the Hunted

A suspected poacher was mauled to death and eaten by a pack of lions close to the Kruger National Park in South Africa, police said Monday, adding that little was left of the victim's body.

The remains were found at the weekend in the bush at a private game park near Hoedspruit in the northern province of Limpopo, where animals have been poached in increasing numbers over recent years.

"It seems the victim was poaching in the game park when he was attacked and killed by lions. They ate his body, nearly all of it, and just left his head and some remains," Limpopo police spokesman Moatshe Ngoepe told AFP.

A loaded hunting rifle was found near the body on Saturday morning. Police are trying to establish the victim's identity.

Last year, several lions were found poisoned near a farm in the same province with their heads and paws sawn off.

Lion body parts are used in traditional medicine.

Poachers also often target rhinoceroses in South Africa's game parks to feed a booming demand for rhino horn in China, Vietnam and other Asian countries, where it is believed to have medicinal qualities.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/suspected-poacher-eaten-by-lions-in-south-africa/ar-BBJ2gJ1?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=ientp

eddie wrote:Why are people bothered about poaching lions and tigers, oh my,  when they eat the meat of animals who are kept in such awful conditions?
I mean I eat eggs, right? And those hens (even though I buy the best free range I can) are still kept in shitty nasty conditions. So would it make me a hypocrite if I started to care immensely about some lion, somewhere?


I’m really just wondering aloud.

HoratioTarr wrote:

eddie wrote:Why are people bothered about poaching lions and tigers, oh my,  when they eat the meat of animals who are kept in such awful conditions?
I mean I eat eggs, right? And those hens (even though I buy the best free range I can) are still kept in shitty nasty conditions. So would it make me a hypocrite if I started to care immensely about some lion, somewhere?


I’m really just wondering aloud.

Killing to eat and killing for fun are entirely different.

magica wrote:Hunter got what he deserved. He didn't get his trophy, he became their meal instead.

No pity for him.

veya_victaous wrote:

A suspected poacher was mauled to death and eaten by a pack of lions close to the Kruger National Park in South Africa, police said Monday, adding that little was left of the victim's body.

The remains were found at the weekend in the bush at a private game park near Hoedspruit in the northern province of Limpopo, where animals have been poached in increasing numbers over recent years.

"It seems the victim was poaching in the game park when he was attacked and killed by lions. They ate his body, nearly all of it, and just left his head and some remains," Limpopo police spokesman Moatshe Ngoepe told AFP.

A loaded hunting rifle was found near the body on Saturday morning. Police are trying to establish the victim's identity.

Last year, several lions were found poisoned near a farm in the same province with their heads and paws sawn off.

Lion body parts are used in traditional medicine.

Poachers also often target rhinoceroses in South Africa's game parks to feed a booming demand for rhino horn in China, Vietnam and other Asian countries, where it is believed to have medicinal qualities.

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/suspected-poacher-eaten-by-lions-in-south-africa/ar-BBJ2gJ1?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=ientp

eddie wrote:
Why are people bothered about poaching lions and tigers, oh my,  when they eat the meat of animals who are kept in such awful conditions?
I mean I eat eggs, right? And those hens (even though I buy the best free range I can) are still kept in shitty nasty conditions. So would it make me a hypocrite if I started to care immensely about some lion, somewhere?

I’m really just wondering aloud.

HoratioTarr wrote:

eddie wrote:Why are people bothered about poaching lions and tigers, oh my,  when they eat the meat of animals who are kept in such awful conditions?
I mean I eat eggs, right? And those hens (even though I buy the best free range I can) are still kept in shitty nasty conditions. So would it make me a hypocrite if I started to care immensely about some lion, somewhere?


I’m really just wondering aloud.

Killing to eat and killing for fun are entirely different.

Maddog wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

eddie wrote:Why are people bothered about poaching lions and tigers, oh my,  when they eat the meat of animals who are kept in such awful conditions?
I mean I eat eggs, right? And those hens (even though I buy the best free range I can) are still kept in shitty nasty conditions. So would it make me a hypocrite if I started to care immensely about some lion, somewhere?


I’m really just wondering aloud.

Killing to eat and killing for fun are entirely different.

Do you think it matters to the thing being killed?  

eddie wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Do you think it matters to the thing being killed?  

This is what I mean. It’s like two different laws for animal-lovers, according to which tastes better.

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

eddie wrote:
Why are people bothered about poaching lions and tigers, oh my,  when they eat the meat of animals who are kept in such awful conditions?
I mean I eat eggs, right? And those hens (even though I buy the best free range I can) are still kept in shitty nasty conditions. So would it make me a hypocrite if I started to care immensely about some lion, somewhere?

I’m really just wondering aloud.

I know you're not particularly interested in environmental protection, or conservation efforts, or biodiversity, or animal "rights", eddie...

But really, conflating poaching and the death of a poacher on one hand, with some vacuous and hypocritical Vegan' bullshit propaganda over farmed animals on the other hand..

Poaching threatens species, is often much more cruel than either 'ethical' hunting or 'halal' slaughter, and is a criminal act, often threatening the local environment and communities as well as the animals (or plants..) themselves.  I would place many poachers on the same level as the worst criminals, when the total overall effects of their enterprises are tallied up...

Maddog wrote:

eddie wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Do you think it matters to the thing being killed?  

This is what I mean. It’s like two different laws for animal-lovers, according to which tastes better.

Or which looks cuter in a Disney movie.  

Texans have declared all out war on pigs.  We are using helicopters, dogs, traps and everything at out disposal to kill the damn things.  But pigs are generally considered ugly so there is little outcry when someone goes out and blasts 20 of them and lets the buzzards have them.  

eddie wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Or which looks cuter in a Disney movie.  

Texans have declared all out war on pigs.  We are using helicopters, dogs, traps and everything at out disposal to kill the damn things.  But pigs are generally considered ugly so there is little outcry when someone goes out and blasts 20 of them and lets the buzzards have them.  

There you go then.  
Personally I don’t give a fuck about animal rights and welfare because tbh they come far down my list of things to be worrying about - I put humans first - but then I don’t pretend when I think it matters either.

nicko wrote:Just got back from Doctors, saw a group of people looking at something in Gutter.    It was a Wood Pigeon,  hit by a car I think.   One wing almost torn off, a Women said "i rang the RSPCA a half hour ago but they were not interested".   How long had the poor little sod been lying there with people just staring at it?   I picked it up and broke it's neck killing it instantly.  I was then met with cries of "You cruel bugger" and other remarks.   Did I do right?

nicko wrote:Just got back from Doctors, saw a group of people looking at something in Gutter.    It was a Wood Pigeon,  hit by a car I think.   One wing almost torn off, a Women said "i rang the RSPCA a half hour ago but they were not interested".   How long had the poor little sod been lying there with people just staring at it?   I picked it up and broke it's neck killing it instantly.  I was then met with cries of "You cruel bugger" and other remarks.   Did I do right?

Syl wrote:I could have cried when the first mouse we caught in the humane trap was dead.

I envy people who can put animals beyond help out of their misery, its the right thing to do.

nicko wrote:I love Vegetarians,     couldn't eat a whole one though !

nicko wrote:Just got back from Doctors, saw a group of people looking at something in Gutter.    It was a Wood Pigeon,  hit by a car I think.   One wing almost torn off, a Women said "i rang the RSPCA a half hour ago but they were not interested".   How long had the poor little sod been lying there with people just staring at it?   I picked it up and broke it's neck killing it instantly.  I was then met with cries of "You cruel bugger" and other remarks.   Did I do right?

nicko wrote:Eddie says,"  I don't give a fuck about Animal rights"

Sad, very sad.

eddie wrote:Why are people bothered about poaching lions and tigers, oh my,  when they eat the meat of animals who are kept in such awful conditions?
I mean I eat eggs, right? And those hens (even though I buy the best free range I can) are still kept in shitty nasty conditions. So would it make me a hypocrite if I started to care immensely about some lion, somewhere?


I’m really just wondering aloud.

veya_victaous wrote:

eddie wrote:Why are people bothered about poaching lions and tigers, oh my,  when they eat the meat of animals who are kept in such awful conditions?
I mean I eat eggs, right? And those hens (even though I buy the best free range I can) are still kept in shitty nasty conditions. So would it make me a hypocrite if I started to care immensely about some lion, somewhere?


I’m really just wondering aloud.

that's simple
it is about Rarity and Endangered status

there a Billions of cows, sheep and chickens etc
all raised and looked after by humans.

And seriously why do you keep dissing Farmers?
Most take great care of their animals, that have a far nicer life than a wild animal which live in constant threat of predation and starvation

eddie wrote:

nicko wrote:Eddie says,"  I don't give a fuck about Animal rights"

Sad, very sad.

And by not eating them, I’m helping their rights more than you, right?

Nicko, I’m not a liar. I could sit here and drone on about how much I love animals but I prefer humans and saving their lives over animals. What do you do to help animals?

veya_victaous wrote:

eddie wrote:

And by not eating them, I’m helping their rights more than you, right?

Nicko, I’m not a liar. I could sit here and drone on about how much I love animals but I prefer humans and saving their lives over animals. What do you do to help animals?

Nope
If you where Buying free range ethically sourced meat you would be doing more for animals rights because you would be providing the financial imperative for farmers to have the better Conditions for their animals. By abstaining you are not affecting the conditions for animals at all.

And for the record I prefer Animals to humans, I have been a supporter of Humane society for Animals and rainforest rescue Since Uni. I care more about saving endangered species and habitats than human lives

Maddog wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

eddie wrote:Why are people bothered about poaching lions and tigers, oh my,  when they eat the meat of animals who are kept in such awful conditions?
I mean I eat eggs, right? And those hens (even though I buy the best free range I can) are still kept in shitty nasty conditions. So would it make me a hypocrite if I started to care immensely about some lion, somewhere?


I’m really just wondering aloud.

that's simple
it is about Rarity and Endangered status

there a Billions of cows, sheep and chickens etc
all raised and looked after by humans.

And seriously why do you keep dissing Farmers?
Most take great care of their animals, that have a far nicer life than a wild animal which live in constant threat of predation and starvation

Really? Lets compare a cow and a deer.

Cows are fenced in, and forced to live where someone else dictates. If they are born male, 99% have their balls cut off and are killed once they stop putting on weight. The females only have one male they can breed with, and have their babies taken away when they are young. Now, they do have free medical attention and are fed all they want.

Deer are not fenced in, live where they want, and never have their balls cut off. The breed with whom they want and have a fairly decent chance of dying of old age. The females keep their young until they are ready to run them off. Of course this freedom comes with no guarantees.    

It's fairly obvious that if you and I were to be animals in out next life, you would prefer the security of being a cow, while I would prefer the freedom of being a deer.    

veya_victaous wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Really? Lets compare a cow and a deer.

Cows are fenced in, and forced to live where someone else dictates. If they are born male, 99% have their balls cut off and are killed once they stop putting on weight. The females only have one male they can breed with, and have their babies taken away when they are young. Now, they do have free medical attention and are fed all they want.

Deer are not fenced in, live where they want, and never have their balls cut off. The breed with whom they want and have a fairly decent chance of dying of old age. The females keep their young until they are ready to run them off. Of course this freedom comes with no guarantees.    

It's fairly obvious that if you and I were to be animals in out next life, you would prefer the security of being a cow, while I would prefer the freedom of being a deer.    

the Deer are shot and chased out of paddocks for Cows.
if there is drought (common here) the deer die by the dozens.
if a Dog kills a deer it's a good boy, if it kills a cow/sheep it's shot.

So 'NICER' is probably accurate.  

PLUS here cows are grass fed and have paddocks far bigger than US cattle (which tend to be grain fed since they are kept in over crowded paddocks) SO part of the point was Ethically sourced which would mean grass fed with plenty of space.

Maddog wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Really? Lets compare a cow and a deer.

Cows are fenced in, and forced to live where someone else dictates. If they are born male, 99% have their balls cut off and are killed once they stop putting on weight. The females only have one male they can breed with, and have their babies taken away when they are young. Now, they do have free medical attention and are fed all they want.

Deer are not fenced in, live where they want, and never have their balls cut off. The breed with whom they want and have a fairly decent chance of dying of old age. The females keep their young until they are ready to run them off. Of course this freedom comes with no guarantees.    

It's fairly obvious that if you and I were to be animals in out next life, you would prefer the security of being a cow, while I would prefer the freedom of being a deer.    

the Deer are shot and chased out of paddocks for Cows.
if there is drought (common here) the deer die by the dozens.
if a Dog kills a deer it's a good boy, if it kills a cow/sheep it's shot.

So 'NICER' is probably accurate.  

PLUS here cows are grass fed and have paddocks far bigger than US cattle (which tend to be grain fed since they are kept in over crowded paddocks) SO part of the point was Ethically sourced which would mean grass fed with plenty of space.

Cows are grass fed here until they are sold. Then they are fed grain for a few weeks and killed.

Yes, there is more risk being a deer, but far less freedom. I know how you feel about risk and freedom.  

veya_victaous wrote:

Maddog wrote:

Cows are grass fed here until they are sold. Then they are fed grain for a few weeks and killed.

Yes, there is more risk being a deer, but far less freedom. I know how you feel about risk and freedom.  

Do you know what 'nicer' means?

I know you love the freedom to suffer

and a Poacher is a ILLEGAL hunter, they are still a hunter just one with your so valued 'freedom'

veya_victaous wrote:@eddie
If you kill Spiders why care about Chickens?

nicko wrote:Do you give a fuck about anything ?

nicko wrote:If you take the trouble to read my post about what I do for Animals you will see that I do quite a lot.   In fact,,   more than you appear to do, and by your posts you do fuck all except post near the knuckle comments !

nicko wrote:Why do you have to swear all the while?   it doesn't make you look big !

nicko wrote:I answered your question, perhaps you did not notice it.
But just in case you missed it.    I send money to the Cats Protection Charity,  the PDSA and the British Legion !


I'v "known you"   for some years and your getting cruder as time goes on.   Do you swear in your house like you do on here?    Ido drop the occasional fuck, but only when I feel strongly about something. You seem to take delight in using the fuck word when there no need for it.  Do you use it outside to friends and neighbours?  It must be an age thing. When I was young no women would swear like you do,if they did it was because they had no pride in themselves.    But you carry on because you know no better !