Republican Official Says Gays Should Be Purged From GOP, Blames Homosexuality On Satan

A new candidate for a Michigan seat on the Republican National Committee wants gays "purged" from the GOP and claims homosexuality is a "perversion" created by Satan himself.

Mary Helen Sears of Houghton County in the state's Upper Peninsula, elected vice chair of the Michigan Republican Party's 1st District last year, posted a rant in April on the Schoolcraft County GOP website -- preceded by a warning asking readers to "please use your discretion before taking any decisions based on the information in this blog."

In the post, Sears claimed that homosexuals prey on children, argued that "Satan uses homosexuality to attack the living space of the Holy Spirit" and advocated that Republicans "as a party should be purging this perversion and send them to a party with a much bigger tent."

Michigan's representatives on the Republican National Committee have lately stirred other controversy, mostly due to Dave Agema, a former state lawmaker who has regularly made anti-gay comments and has been condemned by fellow Republicans, including Gov. Rick Snyder.

Last month, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus and Michigan Republican Party Chairman Bobby Schostak issued a joint statement asking Agema to step down from the RNC "for the good of the party." Instead, Agema's Michigan co-chair on the RNC, U.S. Senate candidate Terri Lynn Land (who had condemned Agema's anti-gay comments), resigned her seat, saying she wanted to focus on her campaign. Under party rules, the state GOP must pick a woman to take Land's place, according to the Detroit Free Press.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/07/mary-helen-sears-michigan-gop_n_4740426.html?utm_hp_ref=uk&ir=UK

i think they are entitled to their opinion.

heavenly father wrote:i think they are entitled to their opinion.

Really?
I imagine if this had been a Muslim calling for the purge of adulterers you would no doubt be up in arms.

The fact is this shows why religion should have no place in politics/government, they seek to set societies backwards, not enlighten them. Her views were appalling and daft, as she wants to purge Gays, even though she claims this is not their fault but the work of Satan So she wishes to purge innocent people from the Republican partw as her views differ due to religion.

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:i think they are entitled to their opinion.

Really?
I imagine if this had been a Muslim calling for the purge of adulterers you would no doubt be up in arms.

The fact is this shows why religion should have no place in politics/government, they seek to set societies backwards, not enlighten them. Her views were appalling and daft, as she wants to purge Gays, even though she claims this is not their fault but the work of Satan, so she wishes to purge innocent people

i thought that you were a believer in equal rights, they have a right to their opinion or are equal rights only for those who agree..

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Really?
I imagine if this had been a Muslim calling for the purge of adulterers you would no doubt be up in arms.

The fact is this shows why religion should have no place in politics/government, they seek to set societies backwards, not enlighten them. Her views were appalling and daft, as she wants to purge Gays, even though she claims this is not their fault but the work of Satan, so she wishes to purge innocent people

i thought that you were a believer in equal rights, they have a right to their opinion or are equal rights only for those who agree..

She does have a right to say, just as I have very right to condemn her, never claimed otherwise, so again you bark up the wrong tree.
I am showing how absurd and nasty her views are based on religion

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

i thought that you were a believer in equal rights, they have a right to their opinion or are equal rights only for those who agree..

She does have a right to say, just as I have very right to condemn her, never claimed otherwise, so again you bark up the wrong tree.
I am showing how absurd and nasty her views are based on religion

so she doesn't have the right to believe her chosen faith.

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

She does have a right to say, just as I have very right to condemn her, never claimed otherwise, so again you bark up the wrong tree.
I am showing how absurd and nasty her views are based on religion

so she doesn't have the right to believe her chosen faith.

Where did I claim otherwise?

My points is on her absurd views, she is also contradicting her own faith claimng now God did not create everything

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

so she doesn't have the right to believe her chosen faith.

Where did I claim otherwise?

My points is on her absurd views, she is also contradicting her own faith claimng now God did not create everything

her point is not absurd if it is built on her faith, which is her right,.

I think you will find her views are trying to hinder equality

She thinks homosexuality is down to Satan, clearly contradicting a claim to the her god creating everything.

PhilDidge wrote:I think you will find her views are trying to hinder equality

She thinks homosexuality is down to Satan, clearly contradicting a claim to the her god creating everything.

i don't think she is saying satan created homosexuality as he can create nothing, she has the right to her beliefs which she has and that belief says homosexuality is wrong, i say good on her for having the strength of her convictions.

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:I think you will find her views are trying to hinder equality

She thinks homosexuality is down to Satan, clearly contradicting a claim to the her god creating everything.

i don't think she is saying satan created homosexuality as he can create nothing, she has the right to her beliefs which she has and that belief says homosexuality is wrong, i say good on her for having the strength of her convictions.

 
 
Yes she did, she blames homosexuality solely on Satan, thus if it is his work to her, then he created homosexuality with her absurd logic, which by doing so contradicts her own faith and hence why that 7 year old has a better grasp on equality than you

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

so she doesn't have the right to believe her chosen faith.

Where did I claim otherwise?

My points is on her absurd views, she is also contradicting her own faith claimng now God did not create everything

And when someone claims that it is absurd to claim that a male having sex with a male is absurd your response is?

She has the right to her beliefs, others have the right to call them evil and ridiculous. Ain't freedom grand?

sphinx wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

so she doesn't have the right to believe her chosen faith.

Where did I claim otherwise?

My points is on her absurd views, she is also contradicting her own faith claimng now God did not create everything

And when someone claims that it is absurd to claim that a male having sex with a male is absurd your response is?

Well, it *is* absurd to claim that a male having sex with another male is absurd.

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

i don't think she is saying satan created homosexuality as he can create nothing, she has the right to her beliefs which she has and that belief says homosexuality is wrong, i say good on her for having the strength of her convictions.

 
 
Yes she did, she blames homosexuality solely on Satan, thus if it is his work to her, then he created homosexuality with her absurd logic, which by doing so contradicts her own faith and hence why that 7 year old has a better grasp on equality than you

How about satan taking the sexual attraction of man to woman created by god and the affection a man can have for his best friend created by god and perverting them so rather than creating something he perverted something?

sphinx wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

i don't think she is saying satan created homosexuality as he can create nothing, she has the right to her beliefs which she has and that belief says homosexuality is wrong, i say good on her for having the strength of her convictions.

 
 
Yes she did, she blames homosexuality solely on Satan, thus if it is his work to her, then he created homosexuality with her absurd logic, which by doing so contradicts her own faith and hence why that 7 year old has a better grasp on equality than you

How about satan taking the sexual attraction of man to woman created by god and the affection a man can have for his best friend created by god and perverting them so rather than creating something he perverted something?  

That's just stupid.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

sphinx wrote:

And when someone claims that it is absurd to claim that a male having sex with a male is absurd your response is?

Well, it *is* absurd to claim that a male having sex with another male is absurd.

Yeah I am having one of the days I should not be unsupervised.

What I meant was what if someone says it is absurd to claim a man having sex with a man is natural

sphinx wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Where did I claim otherwise?

My points is on her absurd views, she is also contradicting her own faith claimng now God did not create everything

And when someone claims that it is absurd to claim that a male having sex with a male is absurd your response is?

I would point out thier claims are also absurd being the fact here her views are based upon faith I would also ask them if they felt by such logic that nobody should use their lips to kiss others, of their mouths to pleasure sexual parts, or women receiving anal sex?

sphinx wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:
 
 
Yes she did, she blames homosexuality solely on Satan, thus if it is his work to her, then he created homosexuality with her absurd logic, which by doing so contradicts her own faith and hence why that 7 year old has a better grasp on equality than you

How about satan taking the sexual attraction of man to woman created by god and the affection a man can have for his best friend created by god and perverting them so rather than creating something he perverted something?  

 
 
How can he twist attraction, if he creation model has this set by this god? He would have to create attarction from man to man and woman to woman, as people are born this way. Thus she contradicts her own faith, if this was the work of satan and he cannot create, homoseuxality would not exists according to what thie deity claims

Ben_Reilly wrote:

sphinx wrote:

How about satan taking the sexual attraction of man to woman created by god and the affection a man can have for his best friend created by god and perverting them so rather than creating something he perverted something?  

That's just stupid.

Is it?

Have you not noticed being on the "correct" side of a debate allows far more disrespecting of the the points made by the "wrong" side of the debate?

This is what does my head in - I see no genuine tolerance for the womans views just a condescending admittance she is allowed to have them.

PhilDidge wrote:

sphinx wrote:

How about satan taking the sexual attraction of man to woman created by god and the affection a man can have for his best friend created by god and perverting them so rather than creating something he perverted something?  

How can he pervert attraction, he would have to create attarction from man to man and woman to woman, as people are born this way. Thus she contradicts her own faith, if this was the work of satan and he cannot create, homoseuxality would not exists according to what thie deity claims

Or there is the god created satan so anything satan creates is therefore the creation of god anyway - an argument that words the same way as the holy trinity.

sphinx wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

That's just stupid.

Is it?

Have you not noticed being on the "correct" side of a debate allows far more disrespecting of the the points made by the "wrong" side of the debate?

This is what does my head in - I see no genuine tolerance for the womans views just a condescending admittance she is allowed to have them.

Yes it is absurd:

How can he twist attraction, if the creation model has hetrosexuality set by this god? He would have to create attarction from man to man and woman to woman, as people are born this way. Thus she contradicts her own faith, if this was the work of satan and he cannot create, homoseuxality would not exists according to what thie deity claims

sphinx wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


How can he pervert attraction, he would have to create attarction from man to man and woman to woman, as people are born this way. Thus she contradicts her own faith, if this was the work of satan and he cannot create, homoseuxality would not exists according to what thie deity claims

Or there is the god created satan so anything satan creates is therefore the creation of god anyway - an argument that words the same way as the holy trinity.

 
 
Yes but Satan cannot create, all thngs as seen by beliefs are created by this deity, Lucifer was not created bad either, so what created his evil?
 
The same God

PhilDidge wrote:

sphinx wrote:

Or there is the god created satan so anything satan creates is therefore the creation of god anyway - an argument that words the same way as the holy trinity.

 
 
Yes but Satan cannot create, all thngs as seen by beliefs are created by this deity, Lucifer was not created bad either, so what created his evil?
 
The same God

Which means god is a sadistic bastard.

Didnt we have this point the other day?

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

i don't think she is saying satan created homosexuality as he can create nothing, she has the right to her beliefs which she has and that belief says homosexuality is wrong, i say good on her for having the strength of her convictions.

 
 
Yes she did, she blames homosexuality solely on Satan, thus if it is his work to her, then he created homosexuality with her absurd logic, which by doing so contradicts her own faith and hence why that 7 year old has a better grasp on equality than you

satan cannot create anything and was originally a created being, he can cheat, trick ,lie, so he can trick people in to believing their perversion is natural and ok but he cannot create a homosexual in the way God created adam and eve.

sphinx wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:
 
 
Yes but Satan cannot create, all thngs as seen by beliefs are created by this deity, Lucifer was not created bad either, so what created his evil?
 
The same God

Which means god is a sadistic bastard.

Didnt we have this point the other day?

Yep and agree 100% that what is written about this diety proves how very sadistic it is.
God creates everything according to the scriptures, which also includes all things bad.

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:
 
 
Yes she did, she blames homosexuality solely on Satan, thus if it is his work to her, then he created homosexuality with her absurd logic, which by doing so contradicts her own faith and hence why that 7 year old has a better grasp on equality than you

satan cannot create anything and was originally a created being, he can cheat, trick ,lie, so he can trick people in to believing their perversion is natural and ok but he cannot create a homosexual in the way God created adam and eve.

 
I stated already that satan cannot create anything, your diety through with what you believe or is written did create homosexuality, he also created the ability to cheat, trick and lie, but people are born homosexual, if you do not believe me go out and have homosexual relationship for a year if you think it is a choice and let me know how you get on. Your God also created the bad of Lucifer, it did not invent itself

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

satan cannot create anything and was originally a created being, he can cheat, trick ,lie, so he can trick people in to believing their perversion is natural and ok but he cannot create a homosexual in the way God created adam and eve.

 
I stated already that satan cannot create anything, your diety through with what you believe or is written did create homosexuality, he also created the ability to cheat, trick and lie, but people are born homosexual, if you do not believe me go out and have homosexual relationship for a year if you think it is a choice and let me know how you get on. Your God also created the bad of Lucifer, it did not invent itself

my deity did not create homosexuality, by your logic the man who invented the car invented car accidents.

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:
 
I stated already that satan cannot create anything, your diety through with what you believe or is written did create homosexuality, he also created the ability to cheat, trick and lie, but people are born homosexual, if you do not believe me go out and have homosexual relationship for a year if you think it is a choice and let me know how you get on. Your God also created the bad of Lucifer, it did not invent itself

my deity did not create homosexuality, by your logic the man who invented the car invented car accidents.

Did or did not god create everything?

What or who else is capable of creating?

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:
 
I stated already that satan cannot create anything, your diety through with what you believe or is written did create homosexuality, he also created the ability to cheat, trick and lie, but people are born homosexual, if you do not believe me go out and have homosexual relationship for a year if you think it is a choice and let me know how you get on. Your God also created the bad of Lucifer, it did not invent itself

my deity did not create homosexuality, by your logic the man who invented the car invented car accidents.

So homosexuality created itself then independent of your deity?

sphinx wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

my deity did not create homosexuality, by your logic the man who invented the car invented car accidents.

Did or did not god create everything?

What or who else is capable of creating?

My God did create everything yes but with freedom of will, so some chose to live life in the gutter while some chose to live it like good people..

heavenly father wrote:

sphinx wrote:

Did or did not god create everything?

What or who else is capable of creating?

My God did create everything yes but with freedom of will, so some chose to live life in the gutter while some chose to live it like good people..

 
 
 
How is attraction to the same sex free will?
If god has designed men an women to only be attracted towards each other, then your deity also created homosexuality as well, because the design would not allow for same sex attractions.

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

My God did create everything yes but with freedom of will, so some chose to live life in the gutter while some chose to live it like good people..

 
 
 
How is attraction to the same sex free will?
If god has designed men an women to only be attracted towards each other, then your deity also created homosexuality as well, because the design would not allow for same sex attractions.

of course not he created as he intended with adam and eve in mind, the fact that some slip into the depths of depravity is no surprise.

Never heard such flawed logic, how can a view to be attracted to someone else by the logic of creation, suddenly reinvent itself to allow attractions to the same sex? That is absurd, he would have created humans with the ability to be attracted to the same sex. 

Adam and Eve?

Another absurd view from the bible, though Tony Hart got it right what you can make out of clay

PhilDidge wrote:Never heard such flawed logic, how can a view to be attracted to someone else by the logic of creation, suddenly reinvent itself to allow attractions to the same sex? That is absurd, he would have created humans with the ability to be attracted to the same sex. 

Adam and Eve?

Another absurd view from the bible, though Tony Hart got it right what you can make out of clay

why is it absurd with have freedom of choice, you can do with it what you wish, if you looks at the ration of gays to normal people it is quite obvious gays are some sort of deviation from the normal..

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:Never heard such flawed logic, how can a view to be attracted to someone else by the logic of creation, suddenly reinvent itself to allow attractions to the same sex? That is absurd, he would have created humans with the ability to be attracted to the same sex. 

Adam and Eve?

Another absurd view from the bible, though Tony Hart got it right what you can make out of clay

why is it absurd with have freedom of choice, you can do with it what you wish, if you looks at the ration of gays to normal people it is quite obvious gays are some sort of deviation from the normal..

So you are telling me you can make yourself be attracted to someone you are not attracted to?
Please explain that to me?
So how is attraction free will?
Thus again this shows it is very natural even if we debate this from a theological point of view, your deity would have had to create this type of attraction

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

why is it absurd with have freedom of choice, you can do with it what you wish, if you looks at the ration of gays to normal people it is quite obvious gays are some sort of deviation from the normal..

So you are telling me you can make yourself be attracted to someone you are not attracted to?
Please explain that to me?
So how is attraction free will?
Thus again this shows it is very natural even if we debate this from a theological point of view, your deity would have had to create this type of attraction

how can it be natural or normal, natural is for a species to survive, normal is what 90 odd percent of humanity are...

how many foods, films, types of clothes have you chosen to like...

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:



So you are telling me you can make yourself be attracted to someone you are not attracted to?
Please explain that to me?
So how is attraction free will?
Thus again this shows it is very natural even if we debate this from a theological point of view, your deity would have had to create this type of attraction

how can it be natural or normal, natural is for a species to survive, normal is what 90 odd percent of humanity are...

how many foods, films, types of clothes have you chosen to like...

How does a homosexual and a heterosexual differ in needing to survive, they only live the once, thus have the same needs to survive.

Also have you never heard of Asexual Reproduction? Why did he need to create that?

Again even using Theology, homosexuality would be natural, because your deity has created homosexuality, thus has also given us attraction, something you do not have free will over.
Thus your religious beliefs prove it is natural, funny that.

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

how can it be natural or normal, natural is for a species to survive, normal is what 90 odd percent of humanity are...

how many foods, films, types of clothes have you chosen to like...

How does a homosexual and a heterosexual differ in needing to survive, they only live the once, thus have the same needs to survive.

Also have you never heard of Asexual Reproduction? Why did he need to create that?

Again even using Theology, homosexuality would be natural, because your deity has created homosexuality, thus has also given us attraction, something you do not have free will over.
Thus your religious beliefs prove it is natural, funny that.

the survival of a species requires procreation, it is that simple. yes but gays can only try ass sexual reproduction which will not help the species very much..

God did not create homosexuality the unnatural lusts of men created homosexuality.

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


How does a homosexual and a heterosexual differ in needing to survive, they only live the once, thus have the same needs to survive.

Also have you never heard of Asexual Reproduction? Why did he need to create that?

Again even using Theology, homosexuality would be natural, because your deity has created homosexuality, thus has also given us attraction, something you do not have free will over.
Thus your religious beliefs prove it is natural, funny that.

the survival of a species requires procreation, it is that simple. yes but gays can only try ass sexual reproduction which will not help the species very much..

God did not create homosexuality the unnatural lusts of men created homosexuality.

Again you cannot read, why then also create A Sexual Rproduction?


So now you are saying and admiting that God did not create everything, now men have created the ability to adapt his own creation with attractiveness, fascinating, how did they accomplish that feat when the design is in your view created with just hetrosexual attractions?

Got to love religious views, showing how easily they contradict using their own beliefs

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

the survival of a species requires procreation, it is that simple. yes but gays can only try ass sexual reproduction which will not help the species very much..

God did not create homosexuality the unnatural lusts of men created homosexuality.

Again you cannot read, why then also create A Sexual Rproduction?


So now you are saying and admiting that God did not create everything, now men have created the ability to adapt his own creation with attractiveness, fascinating, how did they accomplish that feat when the design is in your view created with just hetrosexual attractions?

Got to love religious views, showing how easily they contradict using their own beliefs

God created everything, he created free will, choice for men, men chose to stick it up other men that is their choice, what you do with the gift of life is your choice..

90 odd percent of humanity prove what was intended, the smallest percentage prove the depth of mans depravity..

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

Again you cannot read, why then also create A Sexual Rproduction?


So now you are saying and admiting that God did not create everything, now men have created the ability to adapt his own creation with attractiveness, fascinating, how did they accomplish that feat when the design is in your view created with just hetrosexual attractions?

Got to love religious views, showing how easily they contradict using their own beliefs

God created everything, he created free will, choice for men, men chose to stick it up other men that is their choice, what you do with the gift of life is your choice..

90 odd percent of humanity prove what was intended, the smallest percentage prove the depth of mans depravity..

You have just shown again a contradiction in your view, god creates everything he thus created homosexuality and again attraction is not free will, I cannot stop myself being attrcated to a fit woman, I can however contain that attraction as many do when in relationships. Thus humans could not have invented attraction to the same sex, hence God did with using your faith

If just one thing stood out from the rest that means that was intended to, your logic on understanding your faith is woeful

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

God created everything, he created free will, choice for men, men chose to stick it up other men that is their choice, what you do with the gift of life is your choice..

90 odd percent of humanity prove what was intended, the smallest percentage prove the depth of mans depravity..

You have just shown again a contradiction in your view, god creates everything he thus created homosexuality and again attraction is not free will, I cannot stop myself being attrcated to a fit woman, I can however contain that attraction as many do when in relationships. Thus humans could not have invented attraction to the same sex, hence God did with using your faith

If just one thing stood out from the rest that means that was intended to, your logic on understanding your faith is woeful

there is only a contradiction in your mind...lol as you need homosexuality to be normal and it simple is not..

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

You have just shown again a contradiction in your view, god creates everything he thus created homosexuality and again attraction is not free will, I cannot stop myself being attrcated to a fit woman, I can however contain that attraction as many do when in relationships. Thus humans could not have invented attraction to the same sex, hence God did with using your faith

If just one thing stood out from the rest that means that was intended to, your logic on understanding your faith is woeful

there is only a contradiction in your mind...lol as you need homosexuality to be normal and it simple is not..

Again you are wrong and by also free will, as is attraction free will?

No

Thus by the view attraction is not free will, men could not have created homoseuxality, thus with th logic of your faith, your deity created homosexuality

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

there is only a contradiction in your mind...lol as you need homosexuality to be normal and it simple is not..

Again you are wrong and by also free will, as is attraction free will?

No

Thus by the view attraction is not free will, men could not have created homoseuxality, thus with th logic of your faith, your deity created homosexuality

by your own warped logic ..lol but then again i guess you need that to be true as the thought of you preferring butt to pussy probably by choice probably makes you feel sick..lol

perversion made gays not God, again the fact 90 odd percent prefer skirt should show you something...

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

Again you are wrong and by also free will, as is attraction free will?

No

Thus by the view attraction is not free will, men could not have created homoseuxality, thus with th logic of your faith, your deity created homosexuality

by your own warped logic ..lol but then again i guess you need that to be true as the thought of you preferring butt to pussy probably by choice probably makes you feel sick..lol

perversion made gays not God, again the fact 90 odd percent prefer skirt should show you something...

No again you are wrong and to help ypu understand, I will ask you again, is attraction free will?

If not how can men or women manipulate and change something they have no free will over?
That would mean you could do as stated before and have a homosexual relationship with someone you are not attracted to, even though you are hetrosexual. Now surely you can prove me wrong and be attracted sexually to another man if you believe it is a choice with attraction?

PhilDidge wrote:

heavenly father wrote:

by your own warped logic ..lol but then again i guess you need that to be true as the thought of you preferring butt to pussy probably by choice probably makes you feel sick..lol

perversion made gays not God, again the fact 90 odd percent prefer skirt should show you something...

No again you are wrong and to help ypu understand, I will ask you again, is attraction free will?

If not how can men or women manipulate and change something they have no free will over?
That would mean you could do as stated before and have a homosexual relationship with someone you are not attracted to, even though you are hetrosexual. Now surely you can prove me wrong and be attracted sexually to another man if you believe it is a choice with attraction?

why do 90 odd percent of humanity quite happily enjoy the opposite sex and yet such a tiny percentage enjoy the same sex, what is the norm in your opinion, so i would say that tiny percentage has had a type of meltdown, perhaps they were to ugly to attract the a normal sexual partner, perhaps to boring, perhaps to small where women like larger men, who knows but something made them prefer the same sex.

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


No again you are wrong and to help ypu understand, I will ask you again, is attraction free will?

If not how can men or women manipulate and change something they have no free will over?
That would mean you could do as stated before and have a homosexual relationship with someone you are not attracted to, even though you are hetrosexual. Now surely you can prove me wrong and be attracted sexually to another man if you believe it is a choice with attraction?

why do 90 odd percent of humanity quite happily enjoy the opposite sex and yet such a tiny percentage enjoy the same sex, what is the norm in your opinion, so i would say that tiny percentage has had a type of meltdown, perhaps they were to ugly to attract the a normal sexual partner, perhaps to boring, perhaps to small where women like larger men, who knows but something made them prefer the same sex.

Dear me, so now it is down to being ugly, even though women are attracted to homosexual men.

Again you avoid the point, how can you be physically attracted to someone that does not physically attract you? There must be many women you are not attracted to physically?

If yes, then attraction is not free will is it, thus homosexuality is not free will due to atrraction not being free will.

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


Where did I claim otherwise?

My points is on her absurd views, she is also contradicting her own faith claimng now God did not create everything

her point is not absurd if it is built on her faith, which is her right,.

Don't be a hypocrite.

She is entitled to her faith based opinion. That is her right based on what she believes.

And it is OUR RIGHT to state that we think he view is idiotic based on our belief her faith is a load of bollocks.

Equal rights means the equal right to our opinion, got it.

heavenly father wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


No again you are wrong and to help ypu understand, I will ask you again, is attraction free will?

If not how can men or women manipulate and change something they have no free will over?
That would mean you could do as stated before and have a homosexual relationship with someone you are not attracted to, even though you are hetrosexual. Now surely you can prove me wrong and be attracted sexually to another man if you believe it is a choice with attraction?

why do 90 odd percent of humanity quite happily enjoy the opposite sex and yet such a tiny percentage enjoy the same sex, what is the norm in your opinion, so i would say that tiny percentage has had a type of meltdown, perhaps they were to ugly to attract the a normal sexual partner, perhaps to boring, perhaps to small where women like larger men, who knows but something made them prefer the same sex.

Ok, going to humour your dumb 'logic' for a moment. Assuming we gays 'had a meltdown' and decided to prefer the same-sex- that means your God made a mistake then as so is not perfect as you'd like us to think- since that would imply some kind of failure on his part.

Anyway your logic is ridiculous.

We are ugly? Boring? Well clearly certain well known gays- Matthew Mitcham (Diver), John Barrowman (singer/actor), Jaymi Hensley (Union J), George Michael-when he was younger (singer), Tom Daley (Diver), Russell Tovey (actor), Duncan from Blue (singer) and numerous others would defy that divvy suggestion. And even so, an ugly man would not suddenly find himself attracted to other ugly men would he?