dad and daughter have baby, plan to marry, face multiple charges

A MAN and his biological daughter who are reportedly “planning to get married” are facing incest charges after they allegedly had a baby together.

According to The Sun, Steven Pladl, 42, of Wake County, North Carolina, gave up Katie Pladl, 20, for adoption as a baby but she contacted her parents through social media when she turned 18, police said.

She went to live with her biological parents and their two children near Richmond, Virginia, in August 2016 before the couple legally separated three months later, according to local news channel WNCN.

The wife, who has not been named, told authorities that her husband would sleep on the floor of Katie’s room in the months before she moved out.

In May last year, she read in one of her children’s journals that Katie was pregnant with her father’s baby and that her husband Steven Pladl had told his other children to call Katie their stepmother, according to the arrest warrant.

When his wife confronted him, Pladl allegedly confirmed he had impregnated their adult daughter and that they planned to marry.

A week later, father and daughter moved to Wake County and in November last year a warrant was issued for their arrest.

They were located at an address last week, where officers discovered a baby boy who is understood to be the four-month-old child of the pair.

Steven and Katie Pladl were held at the Wake County Detention Center pending extradition to Virginia and charged with incest with adult, adultery, contributing to delinquency.

Court records show that Steven Pladl has been released on a $1 million bond while Katie Pladl, issued with the same bond, remains in jail.

According to the warrant, they are due to make their first court appearance on Monday.

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Syl wrote:Incest between close family members, Mother or father with adult child, sister and brother, is wrong...end of.

I don't care if people assume the taboo its caused from conditioning or brain washing, I assume that people who find it acceptable are unhinged.

Viva la difference.

Raggamuffin wrote:I can't understand how people who know there is a serious inherited illness in the family just have children without a thought as to whether they will inherit it or not.

Syl wrote:

Didge wrote:


How is it not natural?

Many animals already do and history is littered with people having incest. In fact the law allows this with counsins

You do realize you are using the same poor arguments Tommy uses against homosexuality?

We are not talking about procreation, but love between two conscenting adults.

These two only just met also, and had no relationship as a child to father but only as adults.

Of course it isn't natural, parents should parent their children, not have sex with them.

Some animals interbreed many don't, animals are guided by instinct, human beings posses morals and knowledge, a world where anything went sexually would be corrupt, riddled with disease and abnormalities,  and frankly disgusting.


Cousins aren't forbidden to marry presently in the UK...this is the updated1986  list of blood relatives who cannot marry under any circumstances.



This will probably have to be revised now same sex marriage is allowed.

Lord Foul wrote:
Now as a general matter of principle I have NO moralobjection to an incestuous relationship (since we no longer rely on tribal stability to function as a society,which is the other objection that makes sense in some cases) BUT it seems to me that for the good og humankind we should insist that those who wish to proceed with such a relationship MUST be required ( compelled even) to be rendered incapable of breeding

Lord Foul wrote:Sttop looking for a fight where non exists and stop with your hysterical hyperbole.......stupid child....cousins are NOT,  in either common law statute law or cannon law considered an incestuous relationship,  and most geneticists would agree that provided it doesnt happen generation after generation there is sufficient separation to prevent any serious genetic degradation.


STOP building straw men in order to ply your look at me passive agressive stance


I REPEAT FOR YOUR BENEFIT.......cousins are not considered incest......so you whole post to me is garbage and moot

Lord Foul wrote:

Syl wrote:Incest between close family members, Mother or father with adult child, sister and brother, is wrong...end of.

I don't care if people assume the taboo its caused from conditioning or brain washing, I assume that people who find it acceptable are unhinged.

Viva la difference.

And yet you cant say why. All you can do is bleat "cos it is"And denigrate those. Who disagree with the epithet  "unhinged"

Didge wrote:

Syl wrote:

Of course it isn't natural, parents should parent their children, not have sex with them.

Some animals interbreed many don't, animals are guided by instinct, human beings posses morals and knowledge, a world where anything went sexually would be corrupt, riddled with disease and abnormalities,  and frankly disgusting.


Cousins aren't forbidden to marry presently in the UK...this is the updated1986  list of blood relatives who cannot marry under any circumstances.



This will probably have to be revised now same sex marriage is allowed.

Still not reasoning anything or explaing how conscenting love between two adults is wrong.

Many animals commit incest, so again you are just making things up as you go along

So to say its unnatural, is based on nothing more than the view point conditioned within people within that society.

You may well find it wrong, that does not mean the state or anyone can say whether they can be together.

If you think love is wrong and conditional based on your terms. Then you fail to understand what love is

Syl wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:

And yet you cant say why. All you can do is bleat "cos it is"And denigrate those. Who disagree with the epithet  "unhinged"

Unhinged...plus sexually deviant and morally  retarded actually.

Can you say why you think it IS acceptable?

Syl wrote:Unhinged...plus sexually deviant and morally  retarded actually.

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:

Unhinged...plus sexually deviant and morally  retarded actually.

Can you say why you think it IS acceptable?

Well, I don't think Vic is saying it's acceptable, or unacceptable.  It's an open question...to each his own.

You, however, are the one who is indeed drawing unfounded conclusions:

Syl wrote:Unhinged...plus sexually deviant and morally  retarded actually.

Simple logic, really.  Maintain neutrality (as Vic does) and you will have no need to justify anything.

magica wrote:Sex between father and daughter is incest, so it's wrong.

I agree with you Syl, I dont understand Didges view tbh.

Syl wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:

Unhinged...plus sexually deviant and morally  retarded actually.

Can you say why you think it IS acceptable?

Well, I don't think Vic is saying it's acceptable, or unacceptable.  It's an open question...to each his own.

You, however, are the one who is indeed drawing unfounded conclusions:

Syl wrote:Unhinged...plus sexually deviant and morally  retarded actually.

Simple logic, really.  Maintain neutrality (as Vic does) and you will have no need to justify anything.

To each his own??....we are not talking of what we like or dislike in a partner, we are talking about incest.

I don't have to justify anything. Suffice to say I agree with the law of the land, for all reasons given.

eddie wrote:

Syl wrote:

To each his own??....we are not talking of what we like or dislike in a partner, we are talking about incest.

I don't have to justify anything. Suffice to say I agree with the law of the land, for all reasons given.

Syl, I understand your yuck-factor but this sex was consensual.

Syl wrote:Remember the outrage when Trump called his daughter 'hot', he also said" if she wasn't my daughter I might be dating her".....cue outrage.
Did anyone here say...That's OK?

Yet a man who not only dates his daughter, goes on to have sex with her and produce a child, is somehow OK in some peoples eyes.

The hypocrisy on here is laughable.

Syl wrote:Remember the outrage when Trump called his daughter 'hot', he also said" if she wasn't my daughter I might be dating her".....cue outrage.
Did anyone here say...That's OK?

Yet a man who not only dates his daughter, goes on to have sex with her and produce a child, is somehow OK in some peoples eyes.

The hypocrisy on here is laughable.

Syl wrote:Remember the outrage when Trump called his daughter 'hot', he also said" if she wasn't my daughter I might be dating her".....cue outrage.
Did anyone here say...That's OK?

Yet a man who not only dates his daughter, goes on to have sex with her and produce a child, is somehow OK in some peoples eyes.

The hypocrisy on here is laughable.

Syl wrote:

Didge wrote:

Still not reasoning anything or explaing how conscenting love between two adults is wrong.

Many animals commit incest, so again you are just making things up as you go along

So to say its unnatural, is based on nothing more than the view point conditioned within people within that society.

You may well find it wrong, that does not mean the state or anyone can say whether they can be together.

If you think love is wrong and conditional based on your terms. Then you fail to understand what love is

What have I made up?
Google the genetic diseases that are far more likely to occur  when close family produce offspring.

Many animal species do not breed with their own offspring...look it up.

The state make it illegal to copulate with close family members, I posted a list previously of exactly who.

I understand parental love very well.... I know the difference between the love a mother has for her child and sexual love, just as any normal man would know the difference between parental love and sexual love.

I think your idea of love is twisted if you truly do believe its not abnormal to have sex with your mother, sister, adult child etc.
Lets go the whole hog and have sex with children, animals, in public.....no morals, no laws, just go for it.

Didge wrote:

Syl wrote:

What have I made up?
Google the genetic diseases that are far more likely to occur  when close family produce offspring.

Many animal species do not breed with their own offspring...look it up.

The state make it illegal to copulate with close family members, I posted a list previously of exactly who.

I understand parental love very well.... I know the difference between the love a mother has for her child and sexual love, just as any normal man would know the difference between parental love and sexual love.

I think your idea of love is twisted if you truly do believe its not abnormal to have sex with your mother, sister, adult child etc.
Lets go the whole hog and have sex with children, animals, in public.....no morals, no laws, just go for it.

You said its not common in animals.

It certainly is

Yes I have looked it up thank you

I dont care about your list, as you simple avoiding the questions posed to you

You clearly do not understand love, because you are denying it between two conscenting adults.

You have no argument against it, other than you disaprove.

That is not even a rational argument

I kmnew it would not be long before some idiot would invoke allowing sex with children, animals, etc when they are unable to conscent.

There is always one

Do you not even realise you are using the exact same retarded arguments that have used against gays being together?


So how is it twisted if two conscenting adults love each other?

I would like a rational answer, not something that is pathetically emotive

Syl wrote:

Didge wrote:


You said its not common in animals.

It certainly is

Yes I have looked it up thank you

I dont care about your list, as you simple avoiding the questions posed to you

You clearly do not understand love, because you are denying it between two conscenting adults.

You have no argument against it, other than you disaprove.

That is not even a rational argument

I kmnew it would not be long before some idiot would invoke allowing sex with children, animals, etc when they are unable to conscent.

There is always one

Do you not even realise you are using the exact same retarded arguments that have used against gays being together?


So how is it twisted if two conscenting adults love each other?

I would like a rational answer, not something that is pathetically emotive

I said many species of animals dont interbreed, which is true.

I couldnt care less what you think of the list...thats the law.
If you want to argue that mating with your adult daughter is true love, go and argue your case with the appropriate authorities not me.

Original Quill wrote:

Syl wrote:Remember the outrage when Trump called his daughter 'hot', he also said" if she wasn't my daughter I might be dating her".....cue outrage.
Did anyone here say...That's OK?

Yet a man who not only dates his daughter, goes on to have sex with her and produce a child, is somehow OK in some peoples eyes.

The hypocrisy on here is laughable.

But what you're going on is the emotional aspect.  What everyone else is arguing is the rule aspect: there's no basis for condemning the two of them.  If it's consensual, it's nobody's business but theirs.

Everybody agrees it's yucky.  But yucky isn't a good foundation for rules.

Syl wrote:Why do you keep comparing incest with gay sex?
There is no connection whatsoever, unless the father mates with his son.

Didge wrote:

Syl wrote:Why do you keep comparing incest with gay sex?
There is no connection whatsoever, unless the father mates with his son.

Because you are using the same retarded arguments people have used in the past against gay couples.

I mean, what fucking business is it of yours?

Syl wrote:

Didge wrote:

Because you are using the same retarded arguments people have used in the past against gay couples.

I mean, what fucking business is it of yours?

Dont be stupid Didge, you are just looking for a row.
Go and look somewhere else.

magica wrote:Syl is saying its incest and against the law, which I agree with. Would you have sex with your daughter?

Bringing gays into this is ridiculous. Both separate issues, and no way did Syl mention gays you did.

magica wrote:So your saying having sex with your daughter is fine then.

No one mentioned gays, only you.

magica wrote:So you wouldn't feel bad having sex with your daughter.

I can't think of anything worse.

magica wrote:If you fancied your daughter, then would you sleep with her.

You see I can't think of anything worse because they're not consenting adults, they're father and daughter.

I'm not making it personal, its a valid question.

I'm off to sleep now, have to carry on tomorrow. Night.

veya_victaous wrote:

Syl wrote:Remember the outrage when Trump called his daughter 'hot', he also said" if she wasn't my daughter I might be dating her".....cue outrage.
Did anyone here say...That's OK?

Yet a man who not only dates his daughter, goes on to have sex with her and produce a child, is somehow OK in some peoples eyes.

The hypocrisy on here is laughable.

I must admit when I posted the OP I NEVER thought there would be a debate about Incest being acceptable

magica wrote:So you wouldn't feel bad having sex with your daughter.

I can't think of anything worse.

Jules wrote:

magica wrote:So you wouldn't feel bad having sex with your daughter.

I can't think of anything worse.

Exactly, Mags.

I find it flat out shocking that several people are saying it's quite OK to f*ck your own children under certain circumstances.

Didge, you get weirder by the day .... and that's saying something!

Jules wrote:

magica wrote:So you wouldn't feel bad having sex with your daughter.

I can't think of anything worse.

Exactly, Mags.

I find it flat out shocking that several people are saying it's quite OK to f*ck your own children under certain circumstances.

Didge, you get weirder by the day .... and that's saying something!

magica wrote:

Jules wrote:

Exactly, Mags.

I find it flat out shocking that several people are saying it's quite OK to f*ck your own children under certain circumstances.

Didge, you get weirder by the day .... and that's saying something!

I can't debate this with Didge anymore. Can't believe he finds this acceptable.

So by his thinking, if a father finds his daughter sexually attractive, even underage, that makes the father a paedophile, so is that acceptable.
Because although he says their consensual adults, its so wrong.


I feel sick thinking about that.

magica wrote:

Jules wrote:

Exactly, Mags.

I find it flat out shocking that several people are saying it's quite OK to f*ck your own children under certain circumstances.

Didge, you get weirder by the day .... and that's saying something!

I can't debate this with Didge anymore. Can't believe he finds this acceptable.

So by his thinking, if a father finds his daughter sexually attractive, even underage, that makes the father a paedophile, so is that acceptable.
Because although he says their consensual adults, its so wrong.


I feel sick thinking about that.

Syl wrote:

magica wrote:


I can't debate this with Didge anymore. Can't believe he finds this acceptable.

So by his thinking, if a father finds his daughter sexually attractive, even underage, that makes the father a paedophile, so is that acceptable.
Because although he says their consensual adults, its so wrong.


I feel sick thinking about that.

I don't think he mentioned underage, the rest of what he is trying to justify is bad enough.

To say that people who don't condone incest don't understand what love is ...is a ridiculous statement.
To love is to care, copulating and worse making babies with your daughter, son, sister, brother, mother, father etc is not love...its sick.

In the event, like in the OP  where a parent has been separated from their child and then meets them when they are adult, it does happen that one or both can feel a love that's sexual....in that case they don't act on it, maybe if they had  activated will power instead of lust they would be in a better place.

My sympathies are with the child they have had...he will probably have an incredibly unsettled upbringing, possibly fostered or adopted, with one or both biological parents serving time.

Yet according to Didge....that's love.  

veya_victaous wrote:

Syl wrote:Remember the outrage when Trump called his daughter 'hot', he also said" if she wasn't my daughter I might be dating her".....cue outrage.
Did anyone here say...That's OK?

Yet a man who not only dates his daughter, goes on to have sex with her and produce a child, is somehow OK in some peoples eyes.

The hypocrisy on here is laughable.

I must admit when I posted the OP I NEVER thought there would be a debate about Incest being acceptable

eddie wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

I must admit when I posted the OP I NEVER thought there would be a debate about Incest being acceptable

I think everyone is saying it doesn’t appeal to them and that it’s sickeningly yucky - we all agree on that - but the point some are making is this: this is NOT rape, or grooming, or paedophilia, it’s two STRANGERS who fell in love and they were also related.

They had CONSENSUAL SEX AS TWO ADULTS.  

I’m not sure why they need to be punished and the innocent baby removed from their care.

Also, interesting to note, that most people are condemning the father, but the daughter plays an equal part in this.



What if one of you found out through some fluke that your partner was actually your brother or uncle or cousin?
Could you walk away? Would the love vanish? Why should you have to leave?

That’s all Im saying. It can happen.

Didge wrote:

Syl wrote:

I don't think he mentioned underage, the rest of what he is trying to justify is bad enough.

To say that people who don't condone incest don't understand what love is ...is a ridiculous statement.
To love is to care, copulating and worse making babies with your daughter, son, sister, brother, mother, father etc is not love...its sick.

In the event, like in the OP  where a parent has been separated from their child and then meets them when they are adult, it does happen that one or both can feel a love that's sexual....in that case they don't act on it, maybe if they had  activated will power instead of lust they would be in a better place.

My sympathies are with the child they have had...he will probably have an incredibly unsettled upbringing, possibly fostered or adopted, with one or both biological parents serving time.

Yet according to Didge....that's love.  

So I am the only one here that is against criminalizing two consented adults being together?

Like I say you have no idea what love is.

Its something only you can judge on  and state what is? Really?

Creating life is sick now?

It proves you have no conception how love forms seperately for many people
I am sure the child will grow up fine. With the parents or without them.

The thing that you and the liar cant grasp here, is you play exactly into the hands of homophobes with your stance here.

This exact argument on incest has been used, as a means to argue against homosexuality.

People rightly show nobody has a right to deny two consenting adults

The homophobe jumps in and say, " but you are against adults consenting when its incest."

Thus rendering the consenting adult argument redundent

They then like you claim, Homosexulaity/incest is not normal, its not common in the animal, its socially taboo etc. That homosexuals should not act on their physical and sexual attraction?

Do you now see why you are clueless?

You have no means to defend against homophobia

As this easily deny homophobes

Love between consenting adults.

The moment you rendered that redundent, as you have and what homophobes have argued countless times. Plays into their hands.

If smelly was here now, he would walk all over you on this in regards to homosexuality

That is why you and Magica are clueless. You dont see the bigger picture here and how incest has been used as a means to argue against gay people being together. On the bases of consenting adults.

As you have no rational reason to deny two consenting adults being together.

Or being in love

Its up to people if they are not comfortable with homosexuality or incest, but they have no rational argument against two consenting adults being together. Nor is it any of yours or anyones buisness.

Like I said and others. You have not presented once a rational argument, but a poor emotive one

Syl wrote:

eddie wrote:


I think everyone is saying it doesn’t appeal to them and that it’s sickeningly yucky - we all agree on that - but the point some are making is this: this is NOT rape, or grooming, or paedophilia, it’s two STRANGERS who fell in love and they were also related.

They had CONSENSUAL SEX AS TWO ADULTS.  

I’m not sure why they need to be punished and the innocent baby removed from their care.

Also, interesting to note, that most people are condemning the father, but the daughter plays an equal part in this.



What if one of you found out through some fluke that your partner was actually your brother or uncle or cousin?
Could you walk away? Would the love vanish? Why should you have to leave?

That’s all Im saying. It can happen.

The fact that it was consensual sex doesn't make it any less incest does it.
I think I have condemned them both....if I haven't, I do, the daughter was18 and an adult, old enough to make choices.

In this case they both knew they were related, he slept in his daughters room  under his wifes, her mothers  nose.

Syl wrote:

Didge wrote:


So I am the only one here that is against criminalizing two consented adults being together?

Like I say you have no idea what love is.

Its something only you can judge on  and state what is? Really?

Creating life is sick now?

It proves you have no conception how love forms seperately for many people
I am sure the child will grow up fine. With the parents or without them.

The thing that you and the liar cant grasp here, is you play exactly into the hands of homophobes with your stance here.

This exact argument on incest has been used, as a means to argue against homosexuality.

People rightly show nobody has a right to deny two consenting adults

The homophobe jumps in and say, " but you are against adults consenting when its incest."

Thus rendering the consenting adult argument redundent

They then like you claim, Homosexulaity/incest is not normal, its not common in the animal, its socially taboo etc. That homosexuals should not act on their physical and sexual attraction?

Do you now see why you are clueless?

You have no means to defend against homophobia

As this easily deny homophobes

Love between consenting adults.

The moment you rendered that redundent, as you have and what homophobes have argued countless times. Plays into their hands.

If smelly was here now, he would walk all over you on this in regards to homosexuality

That is why you and Magica are clueless. You dont see the bigger picture here and how incest has been used as a means to argue against gay people being together. On the bases of consenting adults.

As you have no rational reason to deny two consenting adults being together.

Or being in love

Its up to people if they are not comfortable with homosexuality or incest, but they have no rational argument against two consenting adults being together. Nor is it any of yours or anyones buisness.

Like I said and others. You have not presented once a rational argument, but a poor emotive one

Me and Magica have both been happily married for decades, brought up children and grandchildren, and know very well what love is.....are you loved Didge?
I very much doubt it the way you resort to personal insults as soon as someone doesn't agree with your warped views.

Didge wrote:

Syl wrote:
The fact that it was consensual sex doesn't make it any less incest does it.
I think I have condemned them both....if I haven't, I do, the daughter was18 and an adult, old enough to make choices.

In this case they both knew they were related, he slept in his daughters room  under his wifes, her mothers  nose.

And you have condemned them, for what actual crime?

Being in love?

Are you of the school that adultery is now a crime?

Shall we stone them to death?

Should he and her have been honest before they did?

Of course, but again does that mean they should not be together?

We are talking about adults here..

You may not like that they have, but that does not mean any law should deny people being together, when they are adults and they love each other.

The one thing you have failed to answer here, is what is wrong with two adults being in love?

You though discount it as love, how or why?

I disapair at people like you that wish to force your views onto others. You are no better than religious idiots