is Europe finally coming to its senses??

Victory for Austria's new anti-EU leader and surge in support for anti-immigrant party sends shockwaves through Europe as Merkel warns of 'big challenge' ahead

Sebastian Kurz's election victory last night has sent shockwaves through Europe as it appears he may seek a coalition with the country's anti-immigration Freedom Party.

The Eurosceptic leader of Austria's right-leaning People's Party has declared victory in a national election that puts him on track to become the world's youngest leader.

Kurz, 31, fell well short of a majority and may be looking to strike a deal with another party.

The Freedom Party (FPO) got around 26 percent of votes in Sunday's parliamentary vote, boosted by a European migration crisis in 2015 that affected Austria and also led Kurz to campaign on an anti-migration platform.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4984980/Sebastian-Kurz-victory-sends-shockwaves-Europe.html

smelly-bandit wrote:Victory for Austria's new anti-EU leader and surge in support for anti-immigrant party sends shockwaves through Europe as Merkel warns of 'big challenge' ahead

Sebastian Kurz's election victory last night has sent shockwaves through Europe as it appears he may seek a coalition with the country's anti-immigration Freedom Party.

The Eurosceptic leader of Austria's right-leaning People's Party has declared victory in a national election that puts him on track to become the world's youngest leader.

Kurz, 31, fell well short of a majority and may be looking to strike a deal with another party.

The Freedom Party (FPO) got around 26 percent of votes in Sunday's parliamentary vote, boosted by a European migration crisis in 2015 that affected Austria and also led Kurz to campaign on an anti-migration platform.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4984980/Sebastian-Kurz-victory-sends-shockwaves-Europe.html

How can hate and fear, be something to celebrate?

*post deleted so as to avoid offending the mods*

smelly-bandit wrote:it is a great day in Austria when a right wing politician gains power.

and please spare nazi rhetoric , we all know the nazis were left wing

jew hating Muslim loving left wingers

Nobody said anything about Nazis until you, I'm sensing this strikes a nerve ...

Ben Reilly wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:it is a great day in Austria when a right wing politician gains power.

and please spare nazi rhetoric , we all know the nazis were left wing

jew hating Muslim loving left wingers

Nobody said anything about Nazis until you, I'm sensing this strikes a nerve ...

yes master

whatever you say master

i apologize for offending you master

smelly-bandit wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:it is a great day in Austria when a right wing politician gains power.

and please spare nazi rhetoric , we all know the nazis were left wing

jew hating Muslim loving left wingers

Nobody said anything about Nazis until you, I'm sensing this strikes a nerve ...

yes master

whatever you say master

i apologize for offending you master

Good for you, now gently lick my balls and I shan't beat you.

Ben Reilly wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

yes master

whatever you say master

i apologize for offending you master

Good for you, now gently lick my balls and I shan't beat you.

How to define idiocy

When two people think they can better slur the other

Welcome to Trumpton

Didge wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:Victory for Austria's new anti-EU leader and surge in support for anti-immigrant party sends shockwaves through Europe as Merkel warns of 'big challenge' ahead

Sebastian Kurz's election victory last night has sent shockwaves through Europe as it appears he may seek a coalition with the country's anti-immigration Freedom Party.

The Eurosceptic leader of Austria's right-leaning People's Party has declared victory in a national election that puts him on track to become the world's youngest leader.

Kurz, 31, fell well short of a majority and may be looking to strike a deal with another party.

The Freedom Party (FPO) got around 26 percent of votes in Sunday's parliamentary vote, boosted by a European migration crisis in 2015 that affected Austria and also led Kurz to campaign on an anti-migration platform.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4984980/Sebastian-Kurz-victory-sends-shockwaves-Europe.html

How can hate and fear, be something to celebrate?

No real surprise to see Smelly' celebrating the resurgence of the fascist/neo-nazi parties across parts of Europe, though,  is there  ???

Imagine if Smelly's obnoxious ways turned out to be one giant con and piss-take..
For all we know,  he may well have secretly voted for Corbyn in the last British election  !

Nah. He got kicked out of Sarf Efrika after apartheid was abandoned. His racist beliefs still continue, but he is too much of a coward to return home.

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Didge wrote:

How can hate and fear, be something to celebrate?

No real surprise to see Smelly' celebrating the resurgence of the fascist/neo-nazi parties across parts of Europe, though,  is there  ???

Imagine if Smelly's obnoxious ways turned out to be one giant con and piss-take..
For all we know,  he may well have secretly voted for Corbyn in the last British election  !

it is a great day when Europeans vote against the status quo, slowly but surely the people are rejecting globalization

the man is a fucking legend

At first sight, in his smart but casual suits with his slicked-back hair and usually accompanied by his attractive girlfriend, Susanne Thier — they've been together since he was 18 — Roman Catholic Kurz looks to be the very model of modern Eurocrat.

But his delinquency from an EU perspective was soon in evidence: he attacked Europe's open borders and plans to redistribute predominantly Muslim migrants around member states.

He blamed Brussels for mishandling the British so that we ended up voting to leave the EU. And in the past year he oversaw the stationing of tanks and erection of barbed wire fences at the Brenner Pass to back up border controls to stop African and Middle Eastern migrants crossing the Alps from Italy.

He also supported the Islamgesetz legislation that banned foreign funding of mosques and prohibited radical versions of the Koran, and claims to have been instrumental in the so-called burka ban.

who in their right minds could argue with this??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4987108/MARK-ALMOND-EU-s-nightmare-Austria-s-lurch-Far-Right.html

The autumn of Europe's discontent

Now is the autumn of Europe’s discontent. With the shockwaves of recent election results in Germany and Austria, which have seen a surge in support for far-Right nationalist and Eurosceptic parties, still reverberating, it is the turn of the tiny Czech Republic to trigger yet more angst in Brussels.

The pro-Europe political Czech establishment has been upended by a 63-year-old Eurosceptic, anti-immigration, pro-Russian billionaire who is being hailed as the ‘Czech Donald Trump’.

Andrej Babis, whose party is the bluntly named Action for Dissatisfied Citizens (ANO), won 29.6 per cent of the vote at the weekend, or 78 out of 200 seats in the lower house, firmly shifting his nation to the Right.

The Czech Republic’s second-richest man, with a fortune estimated at £3.5 billion, he founded the ANO just two years ago ‘to fight corruption and other ills in the country’s political system’.

He was seen by voters as a maverick with the business know-how to shake up the system.

The fact that Babis had served as finance minister in the previous government and resigned after allegations of fraud — which he insisted were politically motivated — seemed to have had no impact on him cornering the populist vote.

However, opponents of Babis, who was accompanied during the campaign by his glamorous second wife, Monika, view him as a danger to democracy because of his authoritarian leadership style, as well as his business interests, which could lead to a conflict of interest.

His media business includes two newspapers and a radio station and this has prompted comparisons with another billionaire media-magnate-turned-politician, Italy’s Silvio Berlusconi.

As the next Czech prime minister, Babis must now build partnerships with members of the eight factions to form a coalition — a challenge given the anti-establishment stance of his party.

In March, Dutch voters backed away from electing flamboyant, anti-Islam Eurosceptic Geert Wilders as their prime minister

His critics most fear an alliance with the Right-wing, anti-immigration Freedom and Direct Democracy party, which wants to quit the EU and stop the ‘Islamisation of the Czech Republic’, which won just less than 10.7 per cent of the vote.

Its Czech-Japanese leader, Tomio Okamura, caused outrage at allegations that he urged Czechs to walk pigs near mosques and to stop eating kebabs.

So, another potential headache for the EU as yet another member state sees an outpouring of support for parties at odds with the Brussels way of doing things.

It seems the EU’s principles, as well as its economic and monetary policies, are now under relentless attack from ordinary voters at every point of the compass.

So what is going on? Brexit was supposed to be a dire warning to any Europeans tempted to challenge the consensus at the heart of the EU.

But the deadlock in negotiations and the eye-popping ‘divorce’ bills with which the UK is being threatened haven’t prompted member states to rally around the Euro-flag.

Instead, much of the discontent — over immigration, sovereignty, border control, bailouts and a smug Euro-elite out of touch with the people they represent — which coalesced here into the Leave vote, is becoming a key issue for other EU member states.

And some of these states have their own, particular gripes. Instead of the Brits being dismissed as offshore eccentrics, dissent is growing in the most unlikely places.

In the spring, it seemed Brussels was winning the war for hearts and minds. The EU’s lavish PR machine went into overdrive to warn Europeans about the dangers of populism.

Mark Rutte adopted many of Wilders's policies but steered clear of his harsh rhetoric on the campaign trail

Donald Trump’s election seemed a godsend since his brand of raucous, ‘America First’ politics would surely strike no chords here.

In March, Dutch voters backed away from electing flamboyant, anti-Islam Eurosceptic Geert Wilders as their prime minister. Phew — but the respectable winner, Mark Rutte, sailed close to the wind in adopting many of Wilders’s policies without his harsh rhetoric.

Wilders came second — and now has a parliamentary launch pad for next time, if the economy falters and community relations sour further.

Then, in May, the photogenic Europhile Emmanuel Macron was elected president of France, but the National Front, Europe’s strongest and oldest hard-Right party, got as far as the second round and attracted almost a third of the vote, with a groundswell of support from the young.

Still, France seemed to lead a return to the Euro norm, and the Brexit vote was still dismissed as a hiccup on the road to ever greater European unification.

But as autumn leaves began to fall, the EU Commission’s rose-tinted view of where Europe was headed turned ashen-grey.

What looms may mean darker times for us all. Increasingly, Macron’s defeat of the National Front’s Marine Le Pen looks like the last hurrah of the EU Old Guard.

In September, Germany’s Angela Merkel emerged weakened from a general election which put a far-Right, nationalist party, the Alternative for Germany (AfD), into the Bundestag for the first time.

Frustration with the euro — low interest rates for a nation of savers and bailouts for spendthrifts such as Greece — was compounded by the migration issue and terrorism.

Angela Merkel is struggling to form a coalition in Germany while a right-wing coalition looks likely in neighbouring Austria

After last weekend’s election in Austria, new Chancellor and arch Euro-critic Sebastian Kurz of the Austrian People’s Party (OVP) is poised to form a coalition with the second-placed, far-Right nationalist party, the Freedom Party (FPO), some of whose members campaigned wearing the insignia of a blue cornflower, a secret symbol associated with the Nazi Party in Austria in the Thirties.

Analysts argue that Kurz’s success was down to adopting some of the FPO’s anti-immigration policies. Now Czech voters have joined the Austrians in raising the voices of smaller member states which feel that their interests have been ignored.

At the same time, the dismissive reaction of Brussels to Catalan nationalists’ demands has played badly with those small nations.

Right or wrong, the EU Commission’s siding with the Spanish government over Catalonia’s independence referendum has given the impression that Brussels is on the side of the big boys.

Ethnic minorities and disgruntled regions no longer see the EU as an ally against the state which dominates them.

East European EU members hoped that escaping from communism after 1989 meant freedom to choose what policies they wanted. But the European Commission is being seen as a new Politburo.

Sebastian Kurz of the Austrian People’s Party is poised to form a coalition with the far-right Freedom Party, some of whose members campaigned wearing the insignia of a blue cornflower - a secret symbol associated with the Nazi Party.

Instead of communist apparatchiks in Moscow, warning Poles against their religious practices, now Brussels bureaucrats lecture them on their backward attitudes informed by their Catholicism.

Like Hungary, Poland has elected arch-conservatives, strong on family values and dead set against mass immigration by non-Christians as well as non-Europeans.

In a multi-cultural Britain where many British Asians also voted Leave because they shared Eurosceptic irritation with Brussels’s high-handedness, we may not sympathise with more blinkered nationalisms in Eastern Europe, but no one should doubt their popular base.

In Hungary, the PM, Viktor Orban, put up a new iron curtain, this time his barbed-wire fence was designed to stop Middle Eastern migrants getting in rather than to keep Hungarians from getting out.

Brussels fumed about bigotry, but the voters seem to like it.

This was not supposed to happen. The benefits of economic and monetary integration were supposed to trump the lure of such emotional ties as nationalism and patriotism despised by Brussels.

But increasingly the way the single market, and especially the single currency, functions has aroused a multitude of discontent.

Instead of uniting Europe, the euro has antagonised Left and Right, squeezing the centre. Germans are unhappy with funding bailouts for Southern Europe, while people in those nations think the euro’s rules are the cause of their woes. The consensus in favour of the euro as it is now is shrinking.

And add to that unfettered migration and there should be no surprise at recent events. If you feel your domestic economic pie is small, then bringing in new people to share it stirs up trouble.

The EU’s way of handling mass immigration from the Middle East raised hackles. Poles, Hungarians, Serbs, Czechs and Austrians argue that Merkel invited a million migrants to Germany in 2016 without consulting the neighbours and is now pulling strings in Brussels to disperse the burden and save her own political skin.

Dismissed as narrow-minded and provincial by the EU, this is the key reason voters are rallying to Eurosceptic and anti-immigrant parties.

Fear of the sort of terrorism which hit Britain, France and Germany is growing in countries with limited immigration so far.

The road to Brexit seems calm and rational compared with the seething anger and harsh rhetoric surfacing in much of the EU. Brussels seems nonplussed by the rising tide of rejection.

Hungarian PM Viktor Orban erected a barbed-wire fence to stop Middle Eastern migrants getting in

Simply reiterating that the Euro-elite is right and its critics are bigots or stupid is not the way to swing doubters into line.

One size no longer fits all. Everyone can see that. But is there any plausible range of Euro-sizes which can keep everyone snug in the club? And what about Turkey’s president, Recep Erdogan, stirring up minorities and threatening yet more refugees heading west? Or Vladimir Putin, an ominous and looming presence on the north-eastern reaches of the Continent?

The EU seems beset by insoluble interlocking problems. Sadly, things can (probably) only get worse.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5006907/MARK-ALMOND-shock-elections-Germany-Austria.html

praise be to the brave Europeans who have taken a turn to the right and are rejecting the hatred and bigotry of left wing liberalism

Austria's new leader has told the EU to 'take a back seat' and let countries manage their own affairs as he considers forming a coalition with a far-right party founded by former Nazis.

Sebastian Kurz, who at 31 is set to become the youngest leader in the world, said he wants to make the European Union 'more subsidiary and more collaborative'.

The young politician, who campaigned for this month's election with a hard line on immigration, said he wanted the bloc 'to take more of a backseat on issues where nation states can make better decisions.'

Sebastian Kurz (pictured with girlfriend Susanne Thier), who at 31 is set to become the youngest leader in the world, said he wants to make the European Union

Austria's president has given the green light to conservative leader Kurz, whose People's Party (OVP) secured 31.5 per cent of the vote in last week's parliamentary election, to form a government.

He has already said that his party has common ground with the far-right Freedom Party (FPO), which was set up by former Nazis 60 years ago.

The party left the political fringes to establish itself as a mainstream party long ago, gaining around a quarter of votes in parliamentary elections on October 15, within a whisker of the Social Democrats.

In an interview with Spiegel Online, Kurz was challenged to explain his stance on the EU, having claimed to be a staunch pro-European.

He responded: 'I represent a mainstream party and the voters have given me a mandate as a pro-European agent of change.

'We would like to make the EU more subsidiary and more collaborative, and to take more of a backseat on issues where nation states can make better decisions.'

Kurz (pictured with European Commission President Jean-Claude last week) has already said that his party has common ground with the far-right Freedom Party (FPO), which was set up by former Nazis 60 years ago

When asked to explain what he meant, Kurz told the website that there needed to be 'closer collaboration on foreign and defense policy' but that 'we don't need to have a social union'.

Yesterday, Austria's likely next chancellor, revealed he wants talks over a new government to last no more than two months.

'The Austrians expect that there is quickly a strong and stable government which takes up work,' Kurz was quoted as saying by Austria's Kronen Zeitung. 'That means that negotiations should be concluded in less than 60 days.'

KTo form his coalition, only two of Austria's parliamentary parties, the Social Democrats (SPO) and FPO, have enough seats to give Kurz a majority if they go into coalition with the OVP.

Kurz is currently holding an initial round of discussions with the leaders of all parties in parliament, the last of which is his meeting with outgoing Chancellor Christian Kern, the head of the Social Democrats, later on Sunday.

In a separate interview with tabloid Oesterreich, Kurz said his party has common ground with the FPO and that he had already held constructive talks with FPO leader Heinz-Christian Strache.

'In the conversation with Heinz-Christian Strache, I also had the impression that he has a strong willingness to effect change and creative drive,' Kurz was quoted as saying by OE24.

'But now I will conclude these talks on Sunday, and then take up coalition negotiations with a partner.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5008251/Austria-s-new-leader-31-tells-EU-seat.html

Being in favour of national sovereignty and democratic right to self gov and self rule, and against a corrupt federal fascist dictatorship, is not 'far right'...!!!


Why do the media lie by misrepresenting this...!?

Tommy Monk wrote:Being in favour of national sovereignty and democratic right to self gov and self rule, and against a corrupt federal fascist dictatorship, is not 'far right'...!!!


Why do the media lie by misrepresenting this...!?

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Cause you are basically the suckers that voted in Hitler
Own it, It's what you are

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smelly-bandit wrote:
praise be to the brave Europeans who have taken a turn to the right and are rejecting the hatred and bigotry of left wing liberalism

Keeping in mind that in Smelly's narrow little punyverse,  "left wing liberalism" refers to anything to the left of Ghenghis Khan, Adolf Hitler, Steve Bannon and David Duke..        

veya_victaous wrote:Cause you are basically the suckers that voted in Hitler
Own it, It's what you are

I never voted for Hitler.

smelly-bandit wrote:Austria's new leader has told the EU to 'take a back seat' and let countries manage their own affairs as he considers forming a coalition with a far-right party founded by former Nazis.

Sebastian Kurz, who at 31 is set to become the youngest leader in the world, said he wants to make the European Union 'more subsidiary and more collaborative'.

The young politician, who campaigned for this month's election with a hard line on immigration, said he wanted the bloc 'to take more of a backseat on issues where nation states can make better decisions.'

Sebastian Kurz (pictured with girlfriend Susanne Thier), who at 31 is set to become the youngest leader in the world, said he wants to make the European Union

Austria's president has given the green light to conservative leader Kurz, whose People's Party (OVP) secured 31.5 per cent of the vote in last week's parliamentary election, to form a government.

He has already said that his party has common ground with the far-right Freedom Party (FPO), which was set up by former Nazis 60 years ago.

The party left the political fringes to establish itself as a mainstream party long ago, gaining around a quarter of votes in parliamentary elections on October 15, within a whisker of the Social Democrats.

In an interview with Spiegel Online, Kurz was challenged to explain his stance on the EU, having claimed to be a staunch pro-European.

He responded: 'I represent a mainstream party and the voters have given me a mandate as a pro-European agent of change.

'We would like to make the EU more subsidiary and more collaborative, and to take more of a backseat on issues where nation states can make better decisions.'

Kurz (pictured with European Commission President Jean-Claude last week) has already said that his party has common ground with the far-right Freedom Party (FPO), which was set up by former Nazis 60 years ago

When asked to explain what he meant, Kurz told the website that there needed to be 'closer collaboration on foreign and defense policy' but that 'we don't need to have a social union'.

Yesterday,  Austria's likely next chancellor, revealed he wants talks over a new government to last no more than two months.

'The Austrians expect that there is quickly a strong and stable government which takes up work,' Kurz was quoted as saying by Austria's Kronen Zeitung. 'That means that negotiations should be concluded in less than 60 days.'

KTo form his coalition, only two of Austria's parliamentary parties, the Social Democrats (SPO) and FPO, have enough seats to give Kurz a majority if they go into coalition with the OVP.

Kurz is currently holding an initial round of discussions with the leaders of all parties in parliament, the last of which is his meeting with outgoing Chancellor Christian Kern, the head of the Social Democrats, later on Sunday.

In a separate interview with tabloid Oesterreich, Kurz said his party has common ground with the FPO and that he had already held constructive talks with FPO leader Heinz-Christian Strache.

'In the conversation with Heinz-Christian Strache, I also had the impression that he has a strong willingness to effect change and creative drive,' Kurz was quoted as saying by OE24.

'But now I will conclude these talks on Sunday, and then take up coalition negotiations with a partner.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5008251/Austria-s-new-leader-31-tells-EU-seat.html

Maybe you can explain how segregation is a good thing?

eddie wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:Cause you are basically the suckers that voted in Hitler
Own it, It's what you are

I never voted for Hitler.

and yet you are a nazi

Didge wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:Austria's new leader has told the EU to 'take a back seat' and let countries manage their own affairs as he considers forming a coalition with a far-right party founded by former Nazis.

Sebastian Kurz, who at 31 is set to become the youngest leader in the world, said he wants to make the European Union 'more subsidiary and more collaborative'.

The young politician, who campaigned for this month's election with a hard line on immigration, said he wanted the bloc 'to take more of a backseat on issues where nation states can make better decisions.'

Sebastian Kurz (pictured with girlfriend Susanne Thier), who at 31 is set to become the youngest leader in the world, said he wants to make the European Union

Austria's president has given the green light to conservative leader Kurz, whose People's Party (OVP) secured 31.5 per cent of the vote in last week's parliamentary election, to form a government.

He has already said that his party has common ground with the far-right Freedom Party (FPO), which was set up by former Nazis 60 years ago.

The party left the political fringes to establish itself as a mainstream party long ago, gaining around a quarter of votes in parliamentary elections on October 15, within a whisker of the Social Democrats.

In an interview with Spiegel Online, Kurz was challenged to explain his stance on the EU, having claimed to be a staunch pro-European.

He responded: 'I represent a mainstream party and the voters have given me a mandate as a pro-European agent of change.

'We would like to make the EU more subsidiary and more collaborative, and to take more of a backseat on issues where nation states can make better decisions.'

Kurz (pictured with European Commission President Jean-Claude last week) has already said that his party has common ground with the far-right Freedom Party (FPO), which was set up by former Nazis 60 years ago

When asked to explain what he meant, Kurz told the website that there needed to be 'closer collaboration on foreign and defense policy' but that 'we don't need to have a social union'.

Yesterday,  Austria's likely next chancellor, revealed he wants talks over a new government to last no more than two months.

'The Austrians expect that there is quickly a strong and stable government which takes up work,' Kurz was quoted as saying by Austria's Kronen Zeitung. 'That means that negotiations should be concluded in less than 60 days.'

KTo form his coalition, only two of Austria's parliamentary parties, the Social Democrats (SPO) and FPO, have enough seats to give Kurz a majority if they go into coalition with the OVP.

Kurz is currently holding an initial round of discussions with the leaders of all parties in parliament, the last of which is his meeting with outgoing Chancellor Christian Kern, the head of the Social Democrats, later on Sunday.

In a separate interview with tabloid Oesterreich, Kurz said his party has common ground with the FPO and that he had already held constructive talks with FPO leader Heinz-Christian Strache.

'In the conversation with Heinz-Christian Strache, I also had the impression that he has a strong willingness to effect change and creative drive,' Kurz was quoted as saying by OE24.

'But now I will conclude these talks on Sunday, and then take up coalition negotiations with a partner.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5008251/Austria-s-new-leader-31-tells-EU-seat.html

Maybe you can explain how segregation is a good thing?

it keep t hose who wished to live in a civilized manner away from the savage Muslim invaders who want to murder death kill everyone

smelly-bandit wrote:

eddie wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:Cause you are basically the suckers that voted in Hitler
Own it, It's what you are

I never voted for Hitler.

and yet you are a nazi

I am? How's that work then?

smelly-bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:

Maybe you can explain how segregation is a good thing?

it keep t hose who wished to live in a civilized manner away from the savage Muslim invaders who want to murder death kill everyone

So that is the same argument used by Hitler against the Jews

That they were seen as inferior and that it was claimed they were raping and also murdering children, based on some warped antisemitic conspiracy.

You do realise that?

So what is civilized?

Being able to live in peace with humanity or segregation?

Didge wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

it keep t hose who wished to live in a civilized manner away from the savage Muslim invaders who want to murder death kill everyone

So that is the same argument used by Hitler against the Jews

That they were seen as inferior and that it was claimed they were raping and also murdering children, based on some warped antisemitic conspiracy.

You do realise that?

So what is civilized?

Being able to live in peace with humanity or segregation?

difference is that Muslims are a threat and ARE raping and murdering British children

did you watch 3 girls??

smelly-bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:


So that is the same argument used by Hitler against the Jews

That they were seen as inferior and that it was claimed they were raping and also murdering children, based on some warped antisemitic conspiracy.

You do realise that?

So what is civilized?

Being able to live in peace with humanity or segregation?

difference is that Muslims are a threat and ARE raping and murdering British children

did you watch 3 girls??

Ah, so the bases for your argument is based on all 1.5 billion Muslims, or a few thousand Muslims?

So guilt by association then is your argument.

So what do you tell the victims of child sex abuse, when the majority are committed by family members and are white?

To feel lucky, they are not victims of someone with brown skin if Pakistani?

Didge wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

difference is that Muslims are a threat and ARE raping and murdering British children

did you watch 3 girls??

Ah, so the bases for your argument is based on all 1.5 billion Muslims, or a few thousand Muslims?

So guilt by association then is your argument.

So what do you tell the victims of child sex abuse, when the majority are committed by family members and are white?

To feel lucky, they are not victims of someone with brown skin if Pakistani?

segregation didgy poo, self imposed apartheid, its the only way to save ourselves from the invaders

smelly-bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:


Ah, so the bases for your argument is based on all 1.5 billion Muslims, or a few thousand Muslims?

So guilt by association then is your argument.

So what do you tell the victims of child sex abuse, when the majority are committed by family members and are white?

To feel lucky, they are not victims of someone with brown skin if Pakistani?

segregation didgy poo, self imposed apartheid, its the only way to save ourselves from the invaders  

Is it?

Then why has segregation then never worked?

I am not denying there is problems within the world and more so based on beliefs.

I mean we lived in persecution for years on Christian bullshit until enlightenment, secularism and equality came along and open up people eyes. The same needs to happen in the East. It took the west centuries to get this far also. It means there is tough roads ahead. I do not deny problems, but you look at a problem singular and not collectivelly

Anyway, self imposed segregation has never seen societies ever advanced, they have stagnated.

Just look at Islam.

Didge wrote:

smelly-bandit wrote:

segregation didgy poo, self imposed apartheid, its the only way to save ourselves from the invaders  

Is it?

Then why has segregation then never worked?

I am not denying there is problems within the world and more so based on beliefs.

I mean we lived in persecution for years on Christian bullshit until enlightenment, secularism and equality came along and open up people eyes. The same needs to happen in the East. It took the west centuries to get this far also. It means there is tough roads ahead. I do not deny problems, but you look at a problem singular and not collectivelly

Anyway, self imposed segregation has never seen societies ever advanced, they have stagnated.

Just look at Islam.

It works in Israel

smelly-bandit wrote:

Didge wrote:


Is it?

Then why has segregation then never worked?

I am not denying there is problems within the world and more so based on beliefs.

I mean we lived in persecution for years on Christian bullshit until enlightenment, secularism and equality came along and open up people eyes. The same needs to happen in the East. It took the west centuries to get this far also. It means there is tough roads ahead. I do not deny problems, but you look at a problem singular and not collectivelly

Anyway, self imposed segregation has never seen societies ever advanced, they have stagnated.

Just look at Islam.

It works in Israel

Really?

When they have 20% Arab Muslims as citizens, judges, lawyers, members of Parliment etc?

Maybe you could show me this segregation there?

Which is interesting that you say, because it actually occurs in Gaza for example, where Jews are excluded.

Which again proves again my point on stagnation.

eddie wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:Cause you are basically the suckers that voted in Hitler
Own it, It's what you are

I never voted for Hitler.

Did you +1 (or +2) tommy's post?

If you where dumb enough to fall for the nationalistic nonsense that proceeded brexit than you probably would have fallen for the same nationalistic nonsense that Hitler ran on.
Both ran on the same slogans of 'national sovereignty', 'save our race' and 'Minority religion is a threat to our way of life'

veya_victaous wrote:

eddie wrote:

I never voted for Hitler.

Did you +1 (or +2) tommy's post?

If you where dumb enough to fall for the nationalistic nonsense that proceeded brexit than you probably would have fallen for the same nationalistic nonsense that Hitler ran on.
Both ran on the same slogans of 'national sovereignty', 'save our race' and 'Minority religion is a threat to our way of life'

Which really shows you do not understand Nazism, if you equate any political nationalist group to it.

And nobody here in the UK voted for Hitler.

We had Oswald Mosely of the leader of the British Union of Fascists and he and his party was vastly rejected by the British public.

Interestingly enough, he was a former Labour MP.

Didge wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

eddie wrote:

I never voted for Hitler.

Did you +1 (or +2) tommy's post?

If you where dumb enough to fall for the nationalistic nonsense that proceeded brexit than you probably would have fallen for the same nationalistic nonsense that Hitler ran on.
Both ran on the same slogans of 'national sovereignty', 'save our race' and 'Minority religion is a threat to our way of life'

Which really shows you do not understand Nazism, if you equate any political nationalist group to it.

And nobody here in the UK voted for Hitler.

We had Oswald Mosely of the leader of the British Union of Fascists and he was vastly rejected by the British public.

yeah since you think I ever suggested that some Literally voted for Hitler you obvious don't follow the point

AND YES any political nationalist group is like the Nazis which where a political nationalist group, DO they have to be identical? NO, Of course not, only a moron would think they need to be identical

veya_victaous wrote:

Didge wrote:


Which really shows you do not understand Nazism, if you equate any political nationalist group to it.

And nobody here in the UK voted for Hitler.

We had Oswald Mosely of the leader of the British Union of Fascists and he was vastly rejected by the British public.

yeah since you think I ever suggested that some Literally voted for Hitler you obvious don't follow the point

AND YES any political nationalist group is like the Nazis which where a political nationalist group, DO they have to be identical? NO, Of course not, only a moron would think they need to be identical

Which proves you do not understand Nazism

It would be like saying any left wing group is like Stalinism

Its an absurd way to look at Politics in history

The only moron here, is clearly you not understaning anything historical and political.

Again this country has continually rejected British Fascism. Even that is not the same as Nazism, but the closest we have had to it.