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NYC Just Freed 640,000 People From Fear That They May Be Arrested For Minor Offenses

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Post by Guest Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:50 pm

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Over 640,000 people will no longer have to be afraid of being arrested for minor nonviolent crimes – such as walking a dog without a leash, open container drinking, littering, being in a park after hours, and spitting – that they committed decades ago.

The warrants were usually issued when the offenders failed to pay their fines or show up in court. District attorneys from Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn, and the Bronx argued that these warrants would often hurt New Yorkers who would forget about the offenses, only to have them come back up years later in negative ways.

Offenders might find themselves under arrest after reporting a crime, or after calling in a fender bender. Potential employers might also see the warrant during a background check. Additionally, legislators said that the arrest warrants wasted valuable police time.

“The people who have these warrants have not been in trouble with the law for a decade or more, and it is time that they are given the opportunity to live productive lives, free from summonses hanging over their heads,” Darcel Clark, the Bronx district attorney, said in a statement.

“Someone who owes a $25 fine should not be arrested and brought down to central booking and spend 20 or 24 hours in a cell next to a hardened criminal. That’s not fair, and that’s not justice,” said acting Brooklyn District Attorney Eric Gonzalez, according to the Associated Press.

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/nyc-just-freed-640000-people-fear-may-arrested-minor-offenses/





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Post by Raggamuffin Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:26 pm

Thorin wrote:
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I don't need to - shite is shite.


I suggest you look at what you wipe then from your arse to find out

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:28 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Thorin wrote:


I suggest you look at what you wipe then from your arse to find out

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Is that a sign you need toilet paper?

Or that you are the toilet paper holder?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:29 pm

Thorin wrote:
Tommy Monk wrote:Failing to pay a fine or turn up at court is often viewed as a more serious offence than whatever the fine/court summons may originally have been for... it is seen as sticking 2 fingers up to the rule of law!


Letting those off who dont pay or dont turn up at court is not fair on those who do!


Maybe the authorities should be able to set up deductions straight from wages/benefits, a few $ a week until fully paid...?



So you want to waste even more money over irrelevant acts that are classed as crimes.

Wasting more police time, court time, when we have a high risk of terrorism

Should it be a case that many of these crimes should not be crimes?

So why is Denmark closing prisons Tommy?


The money owed could be used for many good things!

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:33 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
Thorin wrote:


So you want to waste even more money over irrelevant acts that are classed as crimes.

Wasting more police time, court time, when we have a high risk of terrorism

Should it be a case that many of these crimes should not be crimes?

So why is Denmark closing prisons Tommy?


The money owed could be used for many good things!



No problem Tommy as this is already done and is not enough.

Are you willing as i am to pay more in tax for the good of the nation?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:35 pm

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Exactly Tommy. If they've been caught out, they should pay up. Letting them off for ignoring a fine is just giving out the wrong message.


How does someone homeless pay up?

In soup tins?

The problem with you and tommy is you never look at how people turn to crimes.

If this was the 17th and 18th century you would both be calling for children to be hanged for stealing bread.

As that was the social norm then

To help lower crime means helping eradicate poverty and empowering women to have control over their own reproduction systems.

Night all


The OP is arguing that the people being let off are decent law abiding citizens leading productive lives, who just forgot to pay their fines/court appearances...


Now you try to say they are all homeless who go to soup kitchens!!!???


lol!


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Post by Guest Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:49 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
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How does someone homeless pay up?

In soup tins?

The problem with you and tommy is you never look at how people turn to crimes.

If this was the 17th and 18th century you would both be calling for children to be hanged for stealing bread.

As that was the social norm then

To help lower crime means helping eradicate poverty and empowering women to have control over their own reproduction systems.

Night all


The OP is arguing that the people being let off are decent law abiding citizens leading productive lives, who just forgot to pay their fines/court appearances...


Now you try to say they are all homeless who go to soup kitchens!!!???


lol!




Can you show me where  the article ever stated that Tommy?

lol!

Did you know Tommy, one in three people in the Uk have criminal convictions?

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:26 am

OP - paras 2 & 4...


Can you show where it says they are all homeless and go to soup kitchens!!!??


lol!


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Post by Guest Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:01 am

Tommy Monk wrote:OP - paras 2 & 4...


Can you show where it says they are all homeless and go to soup kitchens!!!??


lol!




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It does not state what you originally said

PMSL

You said usually law abiding citizens?

Really, based on what?

The crimes they committed?

Who said they were all homeless?

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I asked how someone homeless would pay?

lol!


Que Tommy eating his own verbal diarrhea here.. lol!

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:18 am

Also... the OP quotes these two...


Darcel Clark, the Bronx district attorney...

And...

Brooklyn District Attorney Eric Gonzalez...


Have a little look at these two people...

Why do you think that they would be trying to get 640000 warrants erased...?

Could it be that the vast majority of the criminals are black or hispanic by any chance...!?


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Tommy Monk wrote:Also... the OP quotes these two...Darcel Clark, the Bronx district attorney...and...Brooklyn District Attorney Eric Gonzalez...Have a little look at these two people... Why do you think that they would be trying to get 640000 warrants erased...?Could it be that the vast majority of the criminals are black or hispanic by any chance...!?




Because they are minor crimes

The fact is you made a right wally of yourself again making unsubstantiated claims based off nothing more than your inability to read something. Which you then invented claims made off your own interpretations and not any facts.

You then further end with even more unsubstantiated claims.

Most crimes in the US are caused by white people.

What has a social construct got to do with this?

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