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Post by Andy Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:10 am

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May calls a general.election 8th June..


Not entirely unexpected.
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Post by Eilzel Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:23 pm

As much as I can trust any politicians lol

He's certainly an opportunist. But I trust him to do the right thing more than May. And I trust him more than Corbyn to be competent and 'media savvy'
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Post by The Devil, You Know Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:27 pm

Angry Andy wrote:May calls a general.election 8th June..


Not entirely unexpected.
it is entirely amusing watching those who since july have been calling her the unelected PM, now calling her out for calling an election.

If it ensures that brexit is completed then it is worth it, personally I would have preferred her not to have gone early as I have always been a proponent of fixed term parliaments.

As to labour, who are now 24 points behind the tories after the latest poll since the election was announced,
tories 48
lab 24

they only have themselves to blame after taking a winning formula that blair evolved and lurched further and further left ever since he quit.
it is 41 years since labour won an election without tony blair.
The idiocy of miliband in allowing every man and his dog have a vote in the leadership elections for £3 is why labour are in this parlous state now. my £9 was money well spent in my view.

corbyn may well be a decent bloke, but he is not a politician or a leader by a million miles, he has been on the wrong side of every major issue for the last 30 years or more.
Labour will not be a political force in teh UK for generations if ever after this election and that for britain is a good thing. IT will allow a real political party to fill the centre left ground vacated by labour in the mid 2000's.

Even labour mp's cannot stand the thought of running for a party lead by corbyn and maodonnel and a dozen or so have already stood down giving up a £37000 payoff for losing rather than be associated with him.

The bigger question is will the other 160 who have no confidence in him all jump ship as well.

now all we are waiting for is to find out if labour lose more than 100 seats or less.



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Post by The Devil, You Know Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:29 pm

eddie wrote:Did I also read that Theresa May won't take part in any pre-election debates??
why should she, what would it actually do for her appearing with those no marks.
she will however appear in a Question time type panel
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Post by The Devil, You Know Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:32 pm

eddie wrote:
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I'm not sure if we have a green candidate...if we do that's where I will put my cross.

She is adamant she wont take part in any pre election debates.
She has been very firm about keeping her brexit plans under wraps......could be she still has no idea what she is doing so wont be seen publicly to be cluless??

Well I like to see someone coming forward to debate so I'm not impressed with her silence TBH.
I'm not sure about the green candidate - so I'm stuck for a  vote.
it rather depends on whether you are for or against brexit. if you are for it, then you vote tory, if not then labour/lib dem/green or snp would be he way to go.
Or you could not vote at all, but then dont come whining if you get something you dont want
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Post by The Devil, You Know Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:35 pm

Eilzel wrote:Eds, a story was dug up on Tim Farron where he didn't directly say he thought homosexuality wasn't a sin. In parliament this week he was asked again and said outright he didn't think it was. The Liberals have been one of the most pro LGBT parties in recent years.

And yeah, May doesn't want TV debates.
he was asked directly by sue perkins last week. As he makes a point out of his christianity then it is a valid question to ask.
His previous prevarication may well be typical liberal tendencies of always wanting to sit on the fence. However he has now said it is not a sin, thereby alienating any potential Muslim voters who may disagree, although I am not sure how the Muslim vote breaks down vis a vis the lib dems.
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Post by eddie Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:38 pm

The Devil, You Know wrote:
eddie wrote:
Syl wrote:

I'm not sure if we have a green candidate...if we do that's where I will put my cross.

She is adamant she wont take part in any pre election debates.
She has been very firm about keeping her brexit plans under wraps......could be she still has no idea what she is doing so wont be seen publicly to be cluless??

Well I like to see someone coming forward to debate so I'm not impressed with her silence TBH.
I'm not sure about the green candidate - so I'm stuck for a  vote.
it rather depends on whether you are for or against brexit. if you are for it, then you vote tory, if not then labour/lib dem/green or snp would be he way to go.
Or you could not vote at all, but then dont come whining if you get something you dont want


I know all that and I voted out. But see I'm not like you stuck in the muds, I'll vote for the libdems or the greens even if it goes against my Brexit vote....because...UK general election - Page 2 2190311264
I do what I like and I will accept the outcome.
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Post by The Devil, You Know Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:41 pm

eddie wrote:
Eilzel wrote:Eds, a story was dug up on Tim Farron where he didn't directly say he thought homosexuality wasn't a sin. In parliament this week he was asked again and said outright he didn't think it was. The Liberals have been one of the most pro LGBT parties in recent years.

And yeah, May doesn't want TV debates.

Ah right I knew I'd read something along those lines. Do you trust him?
I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit,
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Post by Fred Moletrousers Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:43 pm

eddie wrote:Actually I may vote for the Green Party anyway. I need to look at the libdems policies for homosexuality - I'm sure I read something I didn't like the other day....can't find it now.

Sadly, the Greens live in an ideal world; everyone else lives in the real world.......
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Post by The Devil, You Know Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:45 pm

eddie wrote:
The Devil, You Know wrote:
it rather depends on whether you are for or against brexit. if you are for it, then you vote tory, if not then labour/lib dem/green or snp would be he way to go.
Or you could not vote at all, but then dont come whining if you get something you dont want


I know all that and I voted out. But see I'm not like you stuck in the muds, I'll vote for the libdems or the greens even if it goes against my Brexit vote....because...UK general election - Page 2 2190311264
I do what I like and I will accept the outcome.
this election is entirely about the brexit vote though. She went early because of the slimeballs in labour/lib dems/snp and the lords who are doing all they can to frustrate the will of those who could be arsed to vote in the referendum.
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