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Post by Guest Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:25 pm

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Will Jeremy Corbyn have the courage of his stated convictions and condemn the killing of Khalid Masood by armed police yesterday?

Corbyn has stated on record that he was “not happy” with police or security services operating a “shoot to kill” policy in the event of a terror attack.

In November 2015, Jeremy Corbyn was asked by the BBC’s political editor Laura Kuenssberg whether he would be happy to order police or the military to shoot to kill if there an attack on Britain’s streets similar to the ones in France.

Corbyn answered: “I’m not happy with the shoot-to-kill policy in general – I think that is quite dangerous and I think can often can be counterproductive.”

In the aftermath of yesterday’s attack on Westminster, the Labour Party leader has issued only a short and bland statement about being “united in adversity” and thanking the police for their “bravery”. But he appears to have completely forgotten his previous stated position. Or, when put to the test, his courage has failed him.


It is a rather awkward and uncomfortable question to have to ask in the wake of tragedy, but a necessary one. Politicians like Corbyn cannot get away with holding – in abstraction – positions or stated views which, they believe, signal their greater virtue, only to quietly abandon these when reality strikes. Developing a public policy on the growing problem of self-motivated terrorism is a serious business and is not helped my moral posturing.


http://hurryupharry.org/2017/03/23/will-jeremy-corbyn-condemn-the-shooting-of-khalid-masood/



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Post by Guest Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:55 pm

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So you deny you said this on the forum that Victor ran?

You and Nems both laughed at the time, she later apologised for this. She finally saw past your hate.
So did the mods there when later many resigned because of your hate fest against me on that forum.
I respect Nems, even if at times we disagree.

So how am I lying, when you did say this and thought it was funny?


You are a fucking liar, a weasel, a manipulative little scrote and there is definitely something very wrong with you.   You carry on with your lies, I know they are lies and I'm the only one who has an opinion I care about.   This from the man who said he was going to drive me to a nervous breakdown, not a chance in hell of that happening, because I know exactly what you are and I know how I am worth a million of you.   You are quite simply an oily snake as disgusting as they come.   You carry on, the only person you are hurting is yourself because your lies are so obvious.  When is the next full moon?


That is all the evidence people need to see that you are lying.
Look at the abuse,l which backs up that you have been so vindictive and nasty and vile to me in the past.
How could I drive you to a nervous breakdown sassy?
Have you?
If not, then my angered claim was all talk was it not?
Was I wrong to say this?
Yes and i even apologised, something you are incapable of.
So why not ask Eilzel, FTL, Nems, Victor etc if I am lying on this?

The fact you think only your opinion counts, is poor to say the least.
How about those trying to save your life with your fight of cancer?
Do they not count?
You see this is your problem, your mind-boggling refusal to understand when and how you can be wrong.
I know you said this and remember wrongs I have said.
The difference?
I apologise and do not even deny them, you though lie, be abusive and misdirect, never apologising..

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Post by eddie Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:05 pm

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Appealed?

She can do as she pleases, she jumped in your defense and like you wrongly cast me as drunk.

How is that an appeal?

As far as I am concerned, you are both immature bitches that slag off people

Now you have to face me

Laughing

Again. Didge you're stepping way over polite debate here.

I'm not going to sit back and have you abuse people.  Got that?


Really?

When you step in and not tolerate people claiming I have mental health problems, take your meds, a drunk, a troll, effected by the moon, etc, etc, then your words will be valid, until then, they are meaningless Eddie.
Why is it acceptable to abuse me?

Again double standards

You started it, if someone else had started it I'd have said the same thing to them, but they didnt.  So enough said Didge. I'm not going to to sit here arguing the toss with you.
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Post by Guest Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:07 pm

eddie wrote:
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Really?

When you step in and not tolerate people claiming I have mental health problems, take your meds, a drunk, a troll, effected by the moon, etc, etc, then your words will be valid, until then, they are meaningless Eddie.
Why is it acceptable to abuse me?

Again double standards

You started it, if someone else had started it I'd have said the same thing to them, butnthey didnt.  So enough said Didge. I'm not going to to sit here arguing the toss with you.


So lets get this clarified

If someone starts on me with abuse, I can retaliate with any form of abuse in return?

So you are saying its acceptable to claim I am a drunk, have mental health problems and PMT?

How are you going to quantify, if that is acceptable?

Friendship you have with members on Facebook, or actual impartiality?

So is what was said to me wrong or not?

Like I said, if not, your words are meaningless Eddie

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:09 pm

Wow, Eddie, you were quick to delete that post attacking a meme based on double standards?

Why?

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Post by eddie Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:10 pm

Do you understand the simple concept that if you hadn't started abusing people first then none of this would've happened?

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:12 pm

eddie wrote:Do you understand the simple concept that if you hadn't started abusing people first then none of this would've happened?



I understand very well, that when wrong, that I rightly should apologise.

Do you understand the concept, two wrongs do not make a right?

You are defending people being abusive if attacked.

That means now anyone can be abusive as they like in retaliation.

Can we have that clarified please?

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Post by eddie Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:16 pm

Listen, I'm clarifying this:

You were abusive to three posters last night and I'm telling you that's not acceptable and you must know this because you apologised.

I'm not arguing anymore and if you want to ruin the thread by carrying on then it will be locked.

And for the record, none of the three posters you abused are friends of mine on Facebook, but that's really beside the point anyway.
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Post by Guest Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:18 pm

eddie wrote:Listen, I'm clarifying this:

You were abusive to three posters last night and I'm telling you that's not acceptable and you must know this because you apologised.

I'm not arguing anymore and if you want to ruin the thread by carrying on then it will be locked.  


Yes I apologised

Only one apologised to me, when not asked for or needed to what they said of me

How am I only wrong, when abuse is thrown from all quarters?

You are making yourself look incapable of moderating

So again

Is it acceptable for me or anyone to be abusive as I like if attacked with abuse?

So when I question and am critical you threaten locking the thread to silence any question to your authority?

How totalitarian are you Eddie?

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Post by eddie Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:19 pm

THREAD LOCKED.

I will reopen it in a day or so when this issue has run its course.
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Post by eddie Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:54 am

THREAD unlocked

Can everyone please keep on topic.
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Post by Andy Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:22 am

There IS hope. I actually asked Thorin to apologise to Sassy and Raggs( not exactly my bestest friend on here)  for his awful language.
I am pleased he did. I apologise for my robust language to Thor too. 
At least it drew the desired apology.
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Post by Guest Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:46 am

lol, have just seen the latest drivel from the Irn curtain.

That English POW's escaping this and who hating communism, who joined the German army to get out of this. Apparently killed countless Resistance fighters and extended the war. All a couple of hundred of them. Yep sheer idiocy in every fashion. Not a single one saw action, with reports of one fighting against the Russians and many did this to get out of prisoner of war camps. Offering zero evidence to prove his falsehoods.  He reckons many died in death camps because of them. Let alone the countless French Resistance fighters who did betray the likes of the SAS, OSS etc to the Germans, which did see many caught and executed. 

Talk about fake news and revisionist history from the Stalinite. Oh my, funniest load of made up claptrap I have ever heard.

So I do love when a simpleton invokes something that had no effect on the war what so ever over than failed propaganda. Does he cast the thousands of Indians, who did take up arms against the British, recruited by the Japanese and Germans, who actually did fight the Allies? Of course not.

His next charge is that i apparently support Apartheid, because I respect the right of people to self determination through a land claim, not that I back their beliefs. You see this is how the demented Hamas supporter tries to deligitimize people. You see you can back the right of anyone to land claims and self determination. It does not mean you support their policies, just as he can support Hamas supposed claim to peace with israel, which of course they do not. He goes off where one official states he would be happy to see Gaza made into a nation, but would continue to fight Israel as to him its occupied, the snippit he misses out. Even their latest charter looks to continue the fight against Israel and sees all of it as occupied.But this does not mean Irn support the human rights abuses by Hamas or terrorism and Islamic extremism? It would using his warped methodology.

Priceless that he thinks some English POW's caused countless deaths, for escaping POW camps by never actually fighting and were nothing more than a PR coup. Again though which he still fails to grasp. Being half Irish and Ireland being neutral, how would to the Irish, any English be viewed as traitors who looked to escape prisoner war camps? I wonder how much he knows about the Scottish nationalists that worked for the Abwher. lol

Never seen someone who is still a member here hide behind a forum and spout lies about posters, knowing they would refuse me being there.

Laughing

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Post by Raggamuffin Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:31 am

Why don't you go there and reply to him? It's hardly on topic here is it?

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Post by eddie Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:40 am

Dudge, I don't want posts from other sites brought over here and ridiculed please. Why would we stoop that low? Who cares what someone is saying somewhere else? I really don't.

If people want to speak about the posters here, on another forum, then let them....isn't it a bit sad when there is a need for that?

Also, Irn isn't here to defend himself so I don't think bringing his post here, is fair.
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Post by Syl Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:19 pm

Did Irn leave?
I know he stepped down as a mod but I didn't know he had left the forum, I liked him.
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Post by eddie Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:42 pm

Syl wrote:Did Irn leave?
I know he stepped down as a mod but I didn't know he had left the forum, I liked him.

No he's still an active member and yes, he's a decent man and a great member of any forum.
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Post by Guest Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:38 pm

eddie wrote:Dudge, I don't want posts from other sites brought over here and ridiculed please.  Why would we stoop that low? Who cares what someone is saying somewhere else? I really don't.  

If people want to speak about the posters here, on another forum, then let them....isn't it a bit sad when there is a need for that?

Also, Irn isn't here to defend himself so I don't think bringing his post here, is fair.


Dudge, how ruuude...

No problem Eddie, it was only to respond, because he was being gutless by not posting here and that I would never be allowed to join there.

You are right though, if he wants to slag me off on the other forum, then let him do so.
It just proves how immature and pathetic he is, he cannot face me here

So understood

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:42 pm

You are already a member from way back, as is victor, who has already posted. Just stating the fact.

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Post by Guest Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:44 pm

sassy wrote:You are already a member from way back, as is victor, who has already posted.  Just stating the fact.


I cannot log on there, but why does he not post here, since it was him acting like a child spouting off about me.

Hey ho. like Eddie said, its not my concern if you want to bitch behind my back

I will simple rise above it

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Post by eddie Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:07 pm

Thorin wrote:
sassy wrote:You are already a member from way back, as is victor, who has already posted.  Just stating the fact.


I cannot log on there, but why does he not post here, since it was him acting like a child spouting off about me.

Hey ho. like Eddie said, its not my concern if you want to bitch behind my back

I will simple rise above it

Surry abut culling yu dudge Laughing

It's best for forums not to get into slagging each other's posters off, that's why we don't encourage it here. It's not productive to life really, is it?
There's no reason why forums can't run politely and amicably alongside each other without any tittle tattle. It's boring and it's really very childish in my opinion.
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Post by Guest Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:09 pm

eddie wrote:
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I cannot log on there, but why does he not post here, since it was him acting like a child spouting off about me.

Hey ho. like Eddie said, its not my concern if you want to bitch behind my back

I will simple rise above it

Surry abut culling yu dudge Laughing

It's best for forums not to get into slagging each other's posters off, that's why we don't encourage it here.  It's not productive to life really, is it?
There's no reason why forums can't run politely and amicably alongside each other without any tittle tattle.  It's boring and it's really very childish in my opinion.


No problem Eddie, as i say, I will not even waste my time even looking over there.
Apologises, for bringing this onto the forum

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Post by Raggamuffin Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:13 pm

Syl wrote:Did Irn leave?
I know he stepped down as a mod but I didn't know he had left the forum, I liked him.

Yes, I got on quite well with him, and he's OK for a raging leftie. lol!

Seriously, he was never rude to me, and at least you could have a reasonable conversation with him.
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