What We Don’t Know About Europe’s Muslim Kids and Why We Should Care | Deeyah Khan |

Aged 17, Deeyah fled from Norway confused, lost and torn between cultures. Unlike some young Muslims she picked up a camera instead of a gun. She now uses her camera (and her superpower) to shed light on the clash of cultures between Muslim parents who prioritise honour and their children's desire for freedom. She argues that we need to understand what is happening to fight the pull to extremism.

Deeyah Khan is a critically acclaimed music producer and Emmy and Peabody award-winning documentary film director. Her work highlights human rights, women's voices and freedom of expression. Her skill as a multidisciplinary artist led her to film and music as the language for her social activism. Born in Norway to immigrant parents of Pashtun and Punjabi ancestry, the experience of living between different cultures, both the challenges and the beauty, dominates her artistic vision.

Her 2012 multi-award winning documentary Banaz: A Love Story chronicles the life and death of Banaz Mahmod. Her second film the Bafta-nominated Jihad involved two years of interviews and filming with Islamic extremists, convicted terrorists and former jihadis.

Deeyah is the founder of social purpose arts and media production company, Fuuse which works to create intercultural dialogue and understanding by confronting the most complex and controversial topics, and sharing alternative views and excluded voices. 

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Thorin wrote:Unlike some young Muslims she picked up a camera instead of a gun.

Wow, I didn't know that about young Muslims.

There's a lot you don't know about Muslims, you will learn eventually when you take your head from up your arse.

Original Quill wrote:

Thorin wrote:Unlike some young Muslims she picked up a camera instead of a gun.

Wow, I didn't know that about young Muslims.

Then tell youtube that, as its their description and what she says herself in the video, which you clearly did not watch did you.
If you had, you would not have made the sarcastic and immature comment

nicko wrote:There's a lot you don't know about Muslims,    you will learn eventually when you take your head from up your arse.

there is more you don't know

I've dated a Muslim Girl
My brother dated one for 7 years, she was basically a sister in law
My Colleague/friend in my new job is Muslim
I have coffee almost every day with him and 2 other Muslims
had dozens of Muslim friends over the years

THEY ARE JUST PEOPLE!!

I have to back Veya here. I know loads of Muslims and they're just.....people.
There's a surprise eh? Who'd have thought they could be so 'people-ish'.

So why is she claiming that she was getting so much hatred and threats of rape/death from other Muslims...?

Tommy Monk wrote:So why is she claiming that she was getting so much hatred and threats of rape/death from other Muslims...?

Because like you, those that threaten the individuals that wish to engage the 'multicultural globalized community' are Hill shepherds that feel the need to mindlessly protect 'their tribe' from others, they just view you as the other while you view them as the other..

an example on here was Nicko Calling Eddie a traitor and imply she was less of an asset to her community because she wouldn't fall in line with his 'vision of Britishness'... the Muslim hill shepherd does the exact same to the Muslim girls that don't fall in line with their 'vision of what it is to be Islamic'

veya_victaous wrote:

nicko wrote:There's a lot you don't know about Muslims,    you will learn eventually when you take your head from up your arse.

there is more you don't know

I've dated a Muslim Girl
My brother dated one for 7 years, she was basically a sister in law
My Colleague/friend in my new job is Muslim
I have coffee almost every day with him and 2 other Muslims
had dozens of Muslim friends over the years

THEY ARE JUST PEOPLE!!

Once again that braindead fuckwit nicko proves that he knows less than nothing about anything that goes on outside his own backyard...

(Now let's watch the clueless little coward or one of his flopette sidekicks give me a red,  while I get abused for calling the racist little "keyboard warrior" shit out, for what he really is..)        

veya_victaous wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:So why is she claiming that she was getting so much hatred and threats of rape/death from other Muslims...?

Because like you, those that threaten the individuals that wish to engage the 'multicultural globalized community' are Hill shepherds that feel the need to mindlessly protect 'their tribe' from others, they just view you as the other while you view them as the other..

an example on here was Nicko Calling Eddie a traitor and imply she was less of an asset to her community because she wouldn't fall in line with his 'vision of Britishness'... the Muslim hill shepherd does the exact same to the Muslim girls that don't fall in line with their 'vision of what it is to be Islamic'

Too true that,  veya...

All that these resident xenophobic neo-nazi/alt.right members on here have been proving in recent months, regarding these issues,  is just how scared, ignorant and gullible they really are at heart...

Spineless little grubs, yearning for those non-existent halcyon days of old "empire", when good white God-fearing Englishmen ruled the waves, those "asian" savages and "dingle berry picking" natives where only good for cheap labour, and,them good li'l wimmin folk 'knew their place' -- barefoot, pregnant and chained to the kitchen sink..

And any of their countryfolk who disagreed with their own narrow-minded and isolationist brand of 'patriotism' are automatically branded "traitors to the cause" --  just like nicko has done to eddie, and the likes of H' Andy, sassy, Irn and Korben over the past year or two..        

YAWN.

PS, why don't you two join Electricsky then you can spend all day licking each others arses to your hearts content !

Awwww Nicko, you peeked

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nicko wrote:There's a lot you don't know about Muslims,    you will learn eventually when you take your head from up your arse.

there is more you don't know

I've dated a Muslim Girl
My brother dated one for 7 years, she was basically a sister in law
My Colleague/friend in my new job is Muslim
I have coffee almost every day with him and 2 other Muslims
had dozens of Muslim friends over the years

THEY ARE JUST PEOPLE!!

Have a green. I've never seen a more racist OP. So with all the rednecks in America running round with guns he thinks the OP is accurate. Racist bastard and as thick as shit.

The hatred this Muslim woman gets is from Muslims.

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veya_victaous wrote:

there is more you don't know

I've dated a Muslim Girl
My brother dated one for 7 years, she was basically a sister in law
My Colleague/friend in my new job is Muslim
I have coffee almost every day with him and 2 other Muslims
had dozens of Muslim friends over the years

THEY ARE JUST PEOPLE!!

Have a green.   I've never seen a more racist OP.   So with all the rednecks in America running round with guns he thinks the OP is accurate.   Racist bastard and as thick as shit.

What was racist about the OP?

So clearly those on the left have not even watched the video have they, that have commented?

If they had, they would not be posting up misdirection and avoiding these problems.

They clearly have not because this woman believes that many Muslims are being let down when young and in conflict between their own family and their culture, to that of their nation. Even going off how this can allow some drawn to terrorism this way.

So why do those who have posted from the left say as they have done?

Because they do not want to recognise a problem, let alone help solve the problem for many young Muslims.

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Have a green.   I've never seen a more racist OP.   So with all the rednecks in America running round with guns he thinks the OP is accurate.   Racist bastard and as thick as shit.

What was racist about the OP?

Indeed, so a Muslim woman who has suffered racism, is now racist to Sassy.

I would love to understand how she figures that one out, when this woman supports and helps young Muslims.

Thorin wrote:So clearly those on the left have not even watched the video have they, that have commented?

If they had, they would not be posting up misdirection and avoiding these problems.

They clearly have not because this woman believes that many Muslims are being let down when young and in conflict between their own family and their culture, to that of their nation. Even going off how this can allow some drawn to terrorism this way.

So why do those who have posted from the left say as they have done?

Because they do not want to recognise a problem, let alone help solve the problem for many young Muslims.

Young BRITS are being let down by Racist scum like nicko and tommy
Exact same shit
The problem is People that THINK LIKE NICKO
doesn't matter if they are Muslim of British!!! It is people that think Like HIM that are the problem

SO Stop your focus on just Muslims and CLEAN YOUR OWN HOUSE!!!

veya_victaous wrote:

Thorin wrote:So clearly those on the left have not even watched the video have they, that have commented?

If they had, they would not be posting up misdirection and avoiding these problems.

They clearly have not because this woman believes that many Muslims are being let down when young and in conflict between their own family and their culture, to that of their nation. Even going off how this can allow some drawn to terrorism this way.

So why do those who have posted from the left say as they have done?

Because they do not want to recognise a problem, let alone help solve the problem for many young Muslims.

Young BRITS are being let down  by Racist scum like nicko and tommy
Exact same shit
The problem is People that THINK LIKE NICKO
doesn't matter if they are Muslim of British!!! It is people that think Like HIM that are the problem

SO Stop your focus on just Muslims and CLEAN YOUR OWN HOUSE!!!

Nicko is fine ...

No he is not!!!

He is like the Islamic fundamentalist that say the girl that doesn't act to he expectations Is an insult to Islam, he is just a Ultranationalist no different than an Islamic Fundamentalist.

He should be treated like the Islamic fundamentalist, failing to do so is hypocrisy, Unless you Support letting Islamic Fundamentalists do it too.

The woman in op is not British... she was born in Norway I think, to Muslim immigrants... and says she fled from there because of threats to rape/kill her from Muslims over there...she says she came to London and then had to leave because of more threats to rape/kill her from UK based Muslims...

veya_victaous wrote:

Thorin wrote:So clearly those on the left have not even watched the video have they, that have commented?

If they had, they would not be posting up misdirection and avoiding these problems.

They clearly have not because this woman believes that many Muslims are being let down when young and in conflict between their own family and their culture, to that of their nation. Even going off how this can allow some drawn to terrorism this way.

So why do those who have posted from the left say as they have done?

Because they do not want to recognise a problem, let alone help solve the problem for many young Muslims.

Young BRITS are being let down  by Racist scum like nicko and tommy
Exact same shit
The problem is People that THINK LIKE NICKO
doesn't matter if they are Muslim of British!!! It is people that think Like HIM that are the problem

SO Stop your focus on just Muslims and CLEAN YOUR OWN HOUSE!!!

Misdirection and again and proves you have not watched the video.
You don't want to know that there is an issue, because understanding there is one, means there is a problem, of which problems needs to be tackled. I wont do anything that a regressive lefty tells me to do.
Its because of people like you that problems exist, because you continually bury your head in the sand over them, thinking. That to talk about them is being anti-Muslim. No talking about them is the first step to helping Muslims, that is what you fail to grasp

Like I say we have had one posted who is know for her antisemitism think the OP is racism, which shows how deluded some of you regressives are.

This is not about Nicko, its about the issues that the Muslim youth in Europe face and people want to help, where as you just want to use as a platform to sport your pathetic an immature hate at posters, because you get a hard on and jack off thinking you can be tough behind your PC. It just makes you look an immature dick

veya_victaous wrote:No he is not!!!

He is like the Islamic fundamentalist that say the girl that doesn't act to he expectations Is an insult to Islam, he is just a Ultranationalist no different than an Islamic Fundamentalist.  

He should be treated like the Islamic fundamentalist, failing to do so is hypocrisy, Unless you Support letting Islamic Fundamentalists do it too.

Yet more pathetic hate and unfounded, because again you want to misdirect the thread.

This is not about Nicko and stop trying top derail the thread with your pathetic hate

The only one acting like a fundamentalist is you here

veya_victaous wrote:No he is not!!!

He is like the Islamic fundamentalist that say the girl that doesn't act to he expectations Is an insult to Islam, he is just a Ultranationalist no different than an Islamic Fundamentalist.  

He should be treated like the Islamic fundamentalist, failing to do so is hypocrisy, Unless you Support letting Islamic Fundamentalists do it too.

He's nothing like an Islamic fundamentalist - that's just silly. You lecturing someone about hypocrisy is very amusing.

I have to smile at Veya's posts, and then I laugh when I realise he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about !

Didge, he IS an immature dick, his continual "shouting" means he wants to impress posters with his "knowledge".

sassy wrote:Awwww Nicko, you peeked

I'm loving the bitching section.    

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HT  

She is digger on chaotic musings site! 

Why is she moaning on about different user names etc!

That site was given to her and it's worst than bitchfest ever was with trolling! 

That site was awful against fluffy bunny. 

....Nasty bunch of rw fishwives that mainly incoporate the likes of ragga, eddie, syl etc!

lol

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 by scrat on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:25 am

I doubt that they'll bother us over here, without the back up of their own mod team they'd soil themselves at the prospect of having to face the truth without some two faced **** troll screeching BLOCKED! unfortunately the herd remain the same they don't like the truth,,,,,,up em!

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 by scrat on Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:55 am

I see that in our absence Veya's "delusions from the dunny" have sprung up with increasing hysteria and now poor Penfold is being vigorously rubbed up the wrong way.

As in politics, sports, and indeed life itself, Britain is playing at the top of the premiership with nations that matter, Australia sadly languishes in the championship, somewhere near the bottom!

I don't think Veya is that antiBritish, possibly antiEnglish, as is the order of things, Perhaps he's one of they toad licking folk, as alcoholics make far more sense!

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Bless, you so bored with yours you decided to promote ours lol

Unlike yours, one thread, that finished days ago, so in the interest of unbiased reporting, that was followed by:

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scrat wrote:
I see that in our absence Veya's "delusions from the dunny" have sprung up with increasing hysteria and now poor Penfold is being vigorously rubbed up the wrong way.

As in politics, sports, and indeed life itself, Britain is playing at the top of the premiership with nations that matter, Australia sadly languishes in the championship, somewhere near the bottom!

I don't think Veya is that antiBritish, possibly antiEnglish, as is the order of things, Perhaps he's one of they toad licking folk, as alcoholics make far more sense!


I actually quite like Veya, scrat. He's on the left and shoots from the hip rubbing up the RW into a frenzy and I like that. It's these very people that have help him form his opinions of some English people.

It's all about opinions of course.

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I actually quite like Veya, scrat. He's on the left and shoots from the hip rubbing up the RW into a frenzy and I like that. It's these very people that have help him form his opinions of some English people.

It's all about opinions of course.

No you're quite right Veya is a sound chap, so's Wolf, Quill and Ben!

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Post by Sassy on Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:33 pm
Hi Scrat, I bloody love Veya, he barrels into the RW with both barrels and squashes them, I used to give him loads of greens.

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LOL

sassy wrote:Bless, you so bored with yours you decided to promote ours lol

Unlike yours, one thread, that finished days ago, so in the interest of unbiased reporting, that was followed by:

Re: Nasty right wing trolls on the lose again!

Post by Irn Bru on Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:37 pm

   scrat wrote:
   I see that in our absence Veya's "delusions from the dunny" have sprung up with increasing hysteria and now poor Penfold is being vigorously rubbed up the wrong way.

   As in politics, sports, and indeed life itself, Britain is playing at the top of the premiership with nations that matter, Australia sadly languishes in the championship, somewhere near the bottom!

   I don't think Veya is that antiBritish, possibly antiEnglish, as is the order of things, Perhaps he's one of they toad licking folk, as alcoholics make far more sense!


I actually quite like Veya, scrat. He's on the left and shoots from the hip rubbing up the RW into a frenzy and I like that. It's these very people that have help him form his opinions of some English people.

It's all about opinions of course.

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   Irn Bru wrote:


   I actually quite like Veya, scrat. He's on the left and shoots from the hip rubbing up the RW into a frenzy and I like that. It's these very people that have help him form his opinions of some English people.

   It's all about opinions of course.

No you're quite right Veya is a sound chap, so's Wolf, Quill and Ben!

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Post by Sassy on Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:33 pm
Hi Scrat, I bloody love Veya, he barrels into the RW with both barrels and squashes them, I used to give him loads of greens.

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LOL

I'm happy to promote your site.   You didn't seem to get much traffic for a year or so.   The thing is, once you allow people to be slagged off publicly on a forum, it kind of gains momentum.   

Did you ban Catman in the end, or did he flounce?

BTW nice try to mitigate the bitching with some positive 'support' from those who don't wish to engage in a being nasty about this place and its members.  A classic move but transparent.

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sassy wrote:Awwww Nicko, you peeked

I'm loving the bitching section.    

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 by Guest on Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:44 pm

HT  

She is digger on chaotic musings site! 

Why is she moaning on about different user names etc!

That site was given to her and it's worst than bitchfest ever was with trolling! 

That site was awful against fluffy bunny. 

....Nasty bunch of rw fishwives that mainly incoporate the likes of ragga, eddie, syl etc!

lol

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 by scrat on Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:25 am

I doubt that they'll bother us over here, without the back up of their own mod team they'd soil themselves at the prospect of having to face the truth without some two faced **** troll screeching BLOCKED! unfortunately the herd remain the same they don't like the truth,,,,,,up em!

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 by scrat on Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:55 am

I see that in our absence Veya's "delusions from the dunny" have sprung up with increasing hysteria and now poor Penfold is being vigorously rubbed up the wrong way.

As in politics, sports, and indeed life itself, Britain is playing at the top of the premiership with nations that matter, Australia sadly languishes in the championship, somewhere near the bottom!

I don't think Veya is that antiBritish, possibly antiEnglish, as is the order of things, Perhaps he's one of they toad licking folk, as alcoholics make far more sense!

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Me too.

Phil, right? I see he flounced already.

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sassy wrote:Awwww Nicko, you peeked

I'm loving the bitching section.    

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 by Guest on Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:44 pm

HT  

She is digger on chaotic musings site! 

Why is she moaning on about different user names etc!

That site was given to her and it's worst than bitchfest ever was with trolling! 

That site was awful against fluffy bunny. 

....Nasty bunch of rw fishwives that mainly incoporate the likes of ragga, eddie, syl etc!

Just to say....Rags never posts on CM and I always liked Fluffy.

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HoratioTarr wrote:

I'm loving the bitching section.    

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 by Guest on Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:44 pm

HT  

She is digger on chaotic musings site! 

Why is she moaning on about different user names etc!

That site was given to her and it's worst than bitchfest ever was with trolling! 

That site was awful against fluffy bunny. 

....Nasty bunch of rw fishwives that mainly incoporate the likes of ragga, eddie, syl etc!

Just to say....Rags never posts on CM and I always liked Fluffy.

It's Catman being Phil being a desperado.  He's still trying to rejoin CM but posts bile as a guest instead.  It's like dealing with  a brain damaged toddler.

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Syl wrote:

Just to say....Rags never posts on CM and I always liked Fluffy.

It's Catman being Phil being a desperado.  He's still trying to rejoin CM but posts bile as a guest instead.  It's like dealing with  a brain damaged toddler.

I don't even know him...just know of him. That doesn't stop him saying the vilest things...not only about me but most others.
If he has been banned from that forum good for Sassy (if she is running it) who in their right mind would want someone like him on the members list?

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HoratioTarr wrote:

It's Catman being Phil being a desperado.  He's still trying to rejoin CM but posts bile as a guest instead.  It's like dealing with  a brain damaged toddler.

I don't even know him...just know of him. That doesn't stop him saying the vilest things...not only about me but most others.
If he has been banned from that forum good for Sassy (if she is running it) who in their right mind would want someone like him on the members list?

This is what happens when you allow a certain element on your forum. They drag it down.  At least the worst I have to deal with is Budgie and JO's cockwaving and missus shagging braggadocio. 

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HoratioTarr wrote:

It's Catman being Phil being a desperado.  He's still trying to rejoin CM but posts bile as a guest instead.  It's like dealing with  a brain damaged toddler.

I don't even know him...just know of him. That doesn't stop him saying the vilest things...not only about me but most others.
If he has been banned from that forum good for Sassy (if she is running it) who in their right mind would want someone like him on the members list?

He was one of the Festers who revelled in seeing people doxed.   Harvesting from people's facebooks etc.

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HoratioTarr wrote:

It's Catman being Phil being a desperado.  He's still trying to rejoin CM but posts bile as a guest instead.  It's like dealing with  a brain damaged toddler.

I don't even know him...just know of him. That doesn't stop him saying the vilest things...not only about me but most others.
If he has been banned from that forum good for Sassy (if she is running it) who in their right mind would want someone like him on the members list?

He wasn't banned, he flounced, although she did threaten to ban him. She didn't like his signature so she removed it.

I think he also posted some PMs from Canny's place, and Sassy got rid of them.

sassy wrote:Bless, you so bored with yours you decided to promote ours lol

Unlike yours, one thread, that finished days ago, so in the interest of unbiased reporting, that was followed by:

Re: Nasty right wing trolls on the lose again!

Post by Irn Bru on Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:37 pm

   scrat wrote:
   I see that in our absence Veya's "delusions from the dunny" have sprung up with increasing hysteria and now poor Penfold is being vigorously rubbed up the wrong way.

   As in politics, sports, and indeed life itself, Britain is playing at the top of the premiership with nations that matter, Australia sadly languishes in the championship, somewhere near the bottom!

   I don't think Veya is that antiBritish, possibly antiEnglish, as is the order of things, Perhaps he's one of they toad licking folk, as alcoholics make far more sense!


I actually quite like Veya, scrat. He's on the left and shoots from the hip rubbing up the RW into a frenzy and I like that. It's these very people that have help him form his opinions of some English people.

It's all about opinions of course.

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   I actually quite like Veya, scrat. He's on the left and shoots from the hip rubbing up the RW into a frenzy and I like that. It's these very people that have help him form his opinions of some English people.

   It's all about opinions of course.

No you're quite right Veya is a sound chap, so's Wolf, Quill and Ben!

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Post by Sassy on Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:33 pm
Hi Scrat, I bloody love Veya, he barrels into the RW with both barrels and squashes them, I used to give him loads of greens.

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LOL

So much for Jules' claim that you don't bother with that "juvenile" nonsense.

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 by Guest on Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:44 pm

HT  

She is digger on chaotic musings site! 

Why is she moaning on about different user names etc!

That site was given to her and it's worst than bitchfest ever was with trolling! 

That site was awful against fluffy bunny. 

....Nasty bunch of rw fishwives that mainly incoporate the likes of ragga, eddie, syl etc!

Just to say....Rags never posts on CM and I always liked Fluffy.

That's right. No offence to Digger, but I just got trolled by JO all the time.

Has Shell joined this place? I noticed the newest member a while back.

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Syl wrote:

I don't even know him...just know of him. That doesn't stop him saying the vilest things...not only about me but most others.
If he has been banned from that forum good for Sassy (if she is running it) who in their right mind would want someone like him on the members list?

This is what happens when you allow a certain element on your forum. They drag it down.  At least the worst I have to deal with is Budgie and JO's cockwaving and missus shagging braggadocio. 

Easily ignored as they keep their juvenile banter contained so as to leave the grownups in peace to talk normally.

How incredibly sad that people should have so much hatred for people they hardly know.

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Syl wrote:

Just to say....Rags never posts on CM and I always liked Fluffy.

That's right. No offence to Digger, but I just got trolled by JO all the time.

Has Shell joined this place? I noticed the newest member a while back.

I know JO's an incredible pain in the arse but he was very kind to me when Edna doxed me.    I did ban him from certain sections, so if you ever deign to return, he cannot get in to bait you.

eddie wrote:How incredibly sad that people should have so much hatred for people they hardly know.

Isn't it?   Nothing better in their lives no doubt.

HoratioTarr wrote:

eddie wrote:How incredibly sad that people should have so much hatred for people they hardly know.

Isn't it?   Nothing better in their lives no doubt.

Nothing good in their lives at all... only the hatred and intolerance from islam...