Why Do So Many Australians Move to London?

by Guest Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:38 pm

It's Australia Day this weekend. And some of the biggest gatherings of antipodeans will be happening right here in London. It's become a second home to many young Aussies. But why? What is it about this city that draws so many of us in when we so readily revel in tormenting the English cricket team? How can we declare our love, when we proudly declare that our lifestyle of balmy weather and beaches is to be envied by London Brits who covet grey skies and enduring winters?
In the short video below, the love Aussies have for the city is explored as one expat who is getting ready to depart, reflects on why she fell in love with London and why so many of her Australian friends feel the same. As you follow Rebecca's interview you'll see she really struggles with a definitive answer, and it shows that perhaps it's simply just a feeling that has so many of us hooked.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/emily-verdouw/australians-in-london_b_4647418.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

by Beekeeper Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:29 pm

"SO MANY" Australians, is it now ???

Have any of those faux journo's who feed these rumours, on their annual "bash the Aussies" fest ~ largely fuelled this year by the Pom's scoring their RECORD WORST EVER summer of Cricket defeats ~ ever bothered to work out the actual % of Aussies that a few thousand working visas adds up to ??

AND no doubt the favourable exchange rates these days encourages the Aussies to "make hay while the sun shines", whilst exploiting the current state of the British economy.. cheers

AND why is it that the average Aussie working in the old Blighty returns to Oz within a decade ? sunny

by Vintage Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:41 pm

Beekeeper wrote:

"SO MANY" Australians, is it now ???

Have any of those faux journo's who feed these rumours, on their annual "bash the Aussies" fest ~ largely fuelled this year by the Pom's scoring their RECORD WORST EVER summer of Cricket defeats ~ ever bothered to work out the actual % of Aussies that a few thousand working visas adds up to ??

AND no doubt the favourable exchange rates these days encourages the Aussies to "make hay while the sun shines", whilst exploiting the current state of the British economy..

AND why is it that the average Aussie working in the old Blighty returns to Oz within a decade ?

If you notice it said "so many of us"
I don't believe its some kind of attack as you seem to think.

by scrat Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:43 pm

Estimates published by the Office for National Statistics suggest that, in 2009, the number of Australians who lived in London (mainly in south-west London with sizeable communities in Earl's Court, Kensington, Hammersmith, Fulham, Shepherds Bush and Putney) stood at 118,000. These are Australians who have become residents or citizens of the United Kingdom, students and temporary workers from Australia who live in the UK.,,,,,,

The motherland is still a magnet for youth and aspiration, especially to those of the Empire, one must remember that education and tourism is a big buck earner for the UK, the London Labour Olympics saved the economy in 2012.

Blighty shines where other nations barely flicker and nothing on the face of this planet shines like London, the capital of the known universe!

by Beekeeper Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:07 pm

Oz's Population = 23+million...

1% = 230,000+

THEREFORE, 118,000 is barely over 0.5%..

AND, most of those do eventually return to Oz after their extended sojourns and gap years..

[I WONDER why it is that Aussie, Kiwi and Canadian teachers, nurses, engineers and accountants get paid so much above the average for their professions over there ?]

by scrat Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:21 pm

Yes,,,there was a time when 0.5% was considered such a paltry amount, of course these days 0.5% is a massive figure, and 118,000 is a strong number, bigger than UK land forces, and all these Aussie chaps and chapesses are returning back to Oz with a positive and realistic world view, worth every penny.

by ALLAKAKA Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:30 pm

I think they come for the culture , they can't get it in a Tinny at home.

by veya_victaous Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:55 pm

They were going fro work(plus see ye'old Europe) but you got none now so we're coming home

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2183099/Australian-expats-leave-UK-thriving-job-market-home.html

by Guest Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:58 pm

Having asked Ozzo's why they like living here,they always give a similar answer.........Because there ain't much to do in Australia.

Many remark that their homeland is good for a holiday but other than that,life is pretty boring.Additionally,they described Sydney as the most boring of cities.......nice to look at but boring.

They all agreed that soaps such as Neighbours & Home and away have made Ozzo's look dumb & so backwards regarding fashion sense.

On the very rare occasions that I have watched either of those soaps I have wondered about the actors hair styles (mullets).And tank tops? I mean are they still wearing tank tops in Ozzostralia?

Oh yes nearly forgot......There most definitely are Aborigine slums in the Sydney outskirts.

Mmmm.Utopia it ain't.

by Guest Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:59 pm

veya_victaous wrote:They were going fro work(plus see ye'old Europe) but you got none now so we're coming home

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2183099/Australian-expats-leave-UK-thriving-job-market-home.html

Correction.......You Ozzo's are coming here in their droves.

Don't start lying.

by veya_victaous Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:13 am

Umm No they are coming home.
less Aussies are going more are just using the 2 year visa (we can automatically get because of the commonwealth) to visit Europe. Many don't stay the whole 2 years.

We get paid more here now (in the 90's it was the opposite, 2000's was even)

Greater Sydney is Awesome, the city itself is too corporate/tourist. The ones that go to the UK and say it is better are the ones that are racists and like the fact you have so few people of other colours. (and wish Australia was still like that.) But many of us that have embraced multiculturalism do have lots to do, Australia day today, 2 weeks Chinese new year (celebrated by multiple Asian cultures all the restaurants do special feasts menus for a fortnight), Diwali is not long after that.
Plus you can just go out and enjoy the outdoors most of the time. there is always some festival going on.

by Beekeeper Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:40 am

ONCE AGAIN, Shady has proven that he can't go barely one sentence without peppering his posts with ever more outrageous silliness !!!

JUST looking at today's efforts on here, I have highlighted his outright lies in each paragraph :

Shady wrote:
Having asked Ozzo's why they like living here,they always give a similar answer.........Because there ain't much to do in Australia.

Many remark that their homeland is good for a holiday but other than that, life is pretty boring. Additionally, they described Sydney as the most boring of cities.......nice to look at but boring.

They all agreed that soaps such as Neighbours & Home and away have made Ozzo's look dumb & so backwards regarding fashion sense.

On the very rare occasions that I have watched either of those soaps I have wondered about the actors hair styles (mullets). And tank tops? I mean are they still wearing tank tops in Ozzostralia?

Oh yes nearly forgot......There most definitely are Aborigine slums in the Sydney outskirts.

Mmmm. Utopia it ain't.

::lightsab::

* "Nothing to do.." in Oz ~ forget that we have lots more sunshine, and real beaches, and plenty of open space, and far better quality food ~ and bigger houses.

* "Life is pretty boring.." ? No, it's not, Your Shonkiness ! Obviously Shady manages to only talk to those lazy slobs that always expect to be spoon-fed their entertainment.. Oh, and we DO have bigger houses !

* "Soaps like Neighbours and Home and Away.." ? WELL ~ apart from the fact that those shows are made for export, and the great majority of Aussies never watch them anyway ~ any intelligent and rationally-thinking person would only consider that a TV show makes it's actors and writers look ".. dumb and so backwards...", and certainly NOT the country as a whole ! Oh, and our backyards are generally bigger out in the suburbs, too.. sunny

* "Mullets.. tank tops.." ?!? Sounds like you have been watching old 1970s repeat episodes there, McShades ! Oh, and MOST Aussies can both drive and swim too, Shady = compared with barely 50% of Brit's in either discipline..

* "Aboriginal slums.." !!! There are NO Aboriginal settlements or communities, let alone those non-existent "slums" of Shady's creation, on the "outskirts" of any Australian cities..

Oh, and we drive bigger, newer and better cars on average than you lot, too ! Razz

* Compared with anywhere in Britain today, and much of Europe post 'GFC', "Utopia, it is !", Your Shadiness !

cheers

by nicko Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:57 am

bee,i think you complain too much,i lived in Australia for some years,even joined your army.you can get sick of too much sun and no change in the seasons. have you ever been to England? seen the greenness of the country,the landscape when covered in snow.i'v been around a bit and there's no place as lovely as England.

by scrat Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:48 am

nicko wrote:bee,i think you complain too much,i lived in Australia for some years,even joined your army.you can get sick of too much sun and no change in the seasons. have you ever been to England? seen the greenness of the country,the landscape when covered in snow.i'v been around a bit and there's no place as lovely as England.

Spot on chap,

Only us English whinge better than the Aussies, who often come second in most things.

Britain is the best place to live, but I do miss Africa.

by Beekeeper Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:56 am

England, Scotland and Ireland are all on my travel itinerary...

After all, three-quarters of my ancestors came from over around those parts..

I was hoping to have been over there long before now, but a couple of other things cropped up to delay my plans.

"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
John Lennon: 'Beautiful Boy (Darling Boy).'

by Guest Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:48 pm

Beekeeper wrote: ONCE AGAIN, Shady has proven that he can't go barely one sentence without peppering his posts with ever more outrageous silliness !!!

JUST looking at today's efforts on here, I have highlighted his outright lies in each paragraph :

Shady wrote:
Having asked Ozzo's why they like living here,they always give a similar answer.........Because there ain't much to do in Australia.

Many remark that their homeland is good for a holiday but other than that, life is pretty boring. Additionally, they described Sydney as the most boring of cities.......nice to look at but boring.

They all agreed that soaps such as Neighbours & Home and away have made Ozzo's look dumb & so backwards regarding fashion sense.

On the very rare occasions that I have watched either of those soaps I have wondered about the actors hair styles (mullets). And tank tops? I mean are they still wearing tank tops in Ozzostralia?

Oh yes nearly forgot......There most definitely are Aborigine slums in the Sydney outskirts.

Mmmm. Utopia it ain't.

::lightsab::

* "Nothing to do.." in Oz ~ forget that we have lots more sunshine, and real beaches, and plenty of open space, and far better quality food ~ and bigger houses.

* "Life is pretty boring.." ? No, it's not, Your Shonkiness ! Obviously Shady manages to only talk to those lazy slobs that always expect to be spoon-fed their entertainment.. Oh, and we DO have bigger houses !

* "Soaps like Neighbours and Home and Away.." ? WELL ~ apart from the fact that those shows are made for export, and the great majority of Aussies never watch them anyway ~ any intelligent and rationally-thinking person would only consider that a TV show makes it's actors and writers look ".. dumb and so backwards...", and certainly NOT the country as a whole ! Oh, and our backyards are generally bigger out in the suburbs, too..

* "Mullets.. tank tops.." ?!? Sounds like you have been watching old 1970s repeat episodes there, McShades ! Oh, and MOST Aussies can both drive and swim too, Shady = compared with barely 50% of Brit's in either discipline..

* "Aboriginal slums.." !!! There are NO Aboriginal settlements or communities, let alone those non-existent "slums" of Shady's creation, on the "outskirts" of any Australian cities..

Oh, and we drive bigger, newer and better cars on average than you lot, too !

* Compared with anywhere in Britain today, and much of Europe post 'GFC', "Utopia, it is !", Your Shadiness !

No aborigine slums in Sydney?......Liar.

by veya_victaous Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:59 pm

Well they are not exactly slums, there is Redfern but with an average house price in excess of 1 million dollars.... scratch

Even by Aussie standards of Prosperity that is NOT a slum.

Everywhere else in the Cities they are integrated, we don't really do the slum ghetto thing here, most areas have a mixed heritage. There are a couple of areas that stand out as being predominately Asian or middle eastern, but there are Whites and Indians in both.

by Beekeeper Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:22 am

IF Shady has some secret inside information about these non-existent slums, I would like him to name those suburbs of his personal 'dreamtime' !!!

THERE are simply no Aboriginal "slums" in Sydney... Suspect

WITHIN the Sydney Basin ~ the geographical area that encompasses the Greater Sydney population zone ~ there is Sydney City, covered by the Sydney and South Sydney local city councils; and these in turn are surrounded further by another 21 town and city councils..

THERE are no Aboriginal communities within Sydney City, though there are hundreds of Aborigines scattered across the city, and there are certainly NO "slums" on any "outskirts" of the Greater Sydney Area.

OUT of the tens of thousands of Aboriginals living across the Sydney Basin, the great majority of them are in regular homes scattered throughout the suburbs.. cyclops

WHERE there used to be dozens of (family based) Aboriginal "communities" around the greater Sydney region, these have been replaced by large land councils and community forums and committees since the 1970s ~ of which several cover the suburbs around the Sydney basin..

To reiterate, though, unlike a couple of remote places like Alice or Darwin, the Aborigines are NOT even in a majority in any of these suburbs (not even in Redfern, on the whole..) ~ and most certainly no-one will be able to find any examples of those Shady "slums" on any "outskirts" of any of the major or middling sized cities around Australia, either !

THEY only exist between Shady's ears or through his keyboard; or in the centre pages of a couple of always-suspect London-based gutter rags.. Rolling Eyes

by Original Quill Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:01 am

I didn't know.

by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:39 pm

Have they rebuilt The Block in Sydney yet?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/specials/rebuilding-the-block/

which was an aboriginal area that was notorious.

by Irn Bru Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:48 pm

Wimbledon. Lords. The Oval.

by veya_victaous Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:05 pm

@sassy
no the Aboriginal Communtiy sold it for several million and several hectares of beach front land down about 200km down the coast.

I was actually looking at buying in the new apartments block they are putting there (I work just across the rail line from where the block was) but $650,000+ for a basic 2bedroom is out of my price range.

Also not all that they mark in the link you posted is really 'the block'. 'the block' refered to a few apartment towers where the most 'anti-social'(drunk/drug affected) of the aboriginals lived (mainly single young men, school drop outs etc). there have always been 'better' aboriginal family homes around the actual block.

by Guest Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:09 pm

veya_victaous wrote:@sassy
no the Aboriginal Communtiy sold it for several million and several hectares of beach front land down about 200km down the coast.

I was actually looking at buying in the new apartments block they are putting there (I work just across the rail line from where the block was) but $650,000+ for a basic 2bedroom is out of my price range.

Also not all that they mark in the link you posted is really 'the block'. 'the block' refered to a few apartment towers where the most 'anti-social'(drunk/drug affected) of the aboriginals lived (mainly single young men, school drop outs etc). there have always been 'better' aboriginal family homes around the actual block.

I just remembered there were a lot of stories about it some years ago. Glad they sorted it, and glad the Aboriginal Community made something out of it.

by Beekeeper Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:10 am

Sassy wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:
@sassy

no the Aboriginal Communtiy sold it for several million and several hectares of beach front land down about 200km down the coast.

I was actually looking at buying in the new apartments block they are putting there (I work just across the rail line from where the block was) but $650,000+ for a basic 2bedroom is out of my price range.

Also not all that they mark in the link you posted is really 'the block'. 'the block' refered to a few apartment towers where the most 'anti-social'(drunk/drug affected) of the aboriginals lived (mainly single young men, school drop outs etc). there have always been 'better' aboriginal family homes around the actual block.

I just remembered there were a lot of stories about it some years ago. Glad they sorted it, and glad the Aboriginal Community made something out of it.

AND, "a lot of stories.." would be right on the money too, by the time they were eventually reprinted in the London gutter press...

ESPECIALLY once those nefarious expats like Pilger and Greer got their lying and exaggerating claws into the rumours..

THE previous Aboriginal problem sub-groups within the communities in Redfern were centred around a couple of streets, as Veya has pointed out above.

BACK in the 1990s and early 'noughties', they broke up those problem families and teenage groups and scattered them out among other communities around NSW. Including some up this way.. cyclops

by veya_victaous Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:22 am

@sassy and Bee
I was still young at the time, but remember there being talk that a few of the families were running drug 'cartels' (really just gangs not huge things like the South American ones) but that wasn't really in the paper because it was the height of the 'PC' era here.

Just relating stories... I was in early teens and Redfern is a good 35 km from where I grew up. I always take them with a grain of salt as Blacktown (my area) was one of the areas that was supposed to be worse (..but it was pretty bad until the no weapons laws)

by Guest Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:29 am

I too have lived in Australia - it's true, there really isn't much to do there.

The reason Aussies are moving to London is opportunity - much more in London for entrepreneur's and businessmen.

by veya_victaous Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:01 am

@Andy

you are joking right confused

20 years no recessions seem to prove otherwise, jesus you don't even have interent banking or banking on Sundays pale

Seriously you really can't deny the fact the UK has really let itself slip the past 30 years, your colonies will be eclipsing you soon.. Answer me this how :::grouch:: do you renew your Car regos and stuff? do you still go and line up like lemmings? I know you use shovels and buckets for road work (very novel as 28 year old Aussies like my brother had never seen anyone actually still use them for road work until he went to England)

You do realise if it has a made in China logo it the raw materials it was made out of was probably mined or farmed in Australia. We are one of the few nations that have a trade surplus with both India and China.

The only reason Aussies Visit England is to Experience the Old World... unfortunately it is crumbling and all very dirty now since you haven't fixed anything with modern tools. I think you guys might having to dress in traditional English Clothes like Armour and Pantaloons and Ride horses to appease the tourist soon... it may be the only hope for your economy pale

like Italy Tourism based on a past empire can literally last millennia so you got nothing to worry about your economy can be as great as Italy's cheers

(just joking hope your economy doesn't tank that hard Wink

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by Guest Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:08 am

veya_victaous wrote:@Andy
       you are joking right

20 years no recessions seem to prove otherwise, jesus you don't even have interent banking or banking on Sundays          Seriously you really can't deny the fact the UK has really let itself slip the past 30 years, your colonies will be eclipsing you soon.. Answer me this how :::grouch::  do you renew your Car regos and stuff? do you still go and line up like lemmings? I know you use shovels and buckets for road work (very novel as 28 year old Aussies like my brother had never seen anyone actually still use them for road work until he went to England)

You do realise if it has a made in China logo it the raw materials it was made out of was probably mined or farmed in Australia. We are one of the few nations that have a trade surplus with both India and China.

The only reason Aussies Visit England is to Experience the Old World... unfortunately it is crumbling and all very dirty now since you haven't fixed anything with modern tools. I think you guys might having to dress in traditional English Clothes like Armour and Pantaloons and Ride horses to appease the tourist soon... it may be the only hope for your economy           like Italy Tourism based on a past empire can literally last millennia so you got nothing to worry about your economy can be as great as Italy's          (just joking hope your economy doesn't tank that hard     )

I think you'll find that London is teeming with extremely affluent people spending horrendous amounts of money and the housing makes Sydney look like downtown Mumbai.

by veya_victaous Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:12 am

@andy
where abouts?
I will give you much of rural Australia is as boring as fuck. but the coasts (as long as you can swim and don't mind the sharks :D ) and cities are pretty fun (even Adelaide Rolling Eyes

). Sydney has really taken off post 2005ish with regards to the amount and inclusiveness of international festivals it has adopted... we are a convict nation, if we like it we steals it Wink

by veya_victaous Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:26 am

@andy
You don't even have real sky scrapers. All your stuff is ancient... that's what gives it, it's CHARM Razz

Sydney and Melbourne at least have a few sky scrapers
and in some parts of Sydney it is getting hard to find a building 20 years old.
In Parramatta for example (it had/has some historic sandstone buildings) they gutted the old buildings but kept all the street fronts. removed the roof and changed them from 2 story to 20 story buildings they do look quite good, old school bottom outer that you see at street level, but look up and it's walls of modern glass and metal. Interiors are fully modernised with the latest in lift/elevator technology etc.

It is actually quite weird in your shows, confused

do you have some external pipes and cabling? like running along the wall where you can see it???? confused

that is so cheap (here only the most bogan homes would leave it like that) why don't you just remove the internal wall lay the cables/pipes etc and replace the wall?
Not sure, but I think it is because some of your building were built before running water let alone electricity so haven't left the space and access points etc..... and for some reason you haven't knocked them down or refurbished them to modern standards (or at least Aussies standards tongue

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by Guest Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:27 am

Crikey, you must be really wound up to have gone away and thought of another post veya.

lol

by Beekeeper Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:24 pm

BigAndy9 wrote: I too have lived in Australia - it's true, there really isn't much to do there.

YOU may have visited Oz on occasions, Andy, even stayed for a month or two, but obviously you NEVER really "lived" over here...

THOSE activities that many of you poor people are forced to consider as 'seasonal' activities, because of your infamously lousy weather ~ such as bicycling, horse riding, sailing, kayaking, surfing and swimming, skin and scuba diving, rockclimbing and abseiling, hiking and rambling, even just going on a picnic ~ are ALL YEAR ROUND activities around here..
READ IT and weep !

The reason Aussies are moving to London is opportunity - much more in London for entrepreneur's and businessmen.

Shirley you jest, L'ilAndy ! Just consider :
* Australia has many more opportunities.
* Australia survived the"GFC" in much better shape than Britain..
* Britain has much higher rates of unemployment, part-time workers and casual workers.
* Australia has much higher average wages, and the "minimum wage" here is over $15.
* Oz has higher rates of home ownership ~ EVEN THOUGH houses are still more expensive down here..
* A typical Aussie winter will still have more sunshine than the best British summer!

WHICH all goes a long way to explaining just WHY a lot more more Brit's move to Oz, than the relative small numbers of Aussies who would stay in England !

by Beekeeper Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:49 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:
I think you'll find that London is teeming with extremely affluent people spending horrendous amounts of money and the housing makes Sydney look like downtown Mumbai.

YOU are truly delusional, Andy !!!

YOU won't find a house within cooee of London that you can EVER in your wildest dreams compare with the real mansions on the northern beaches of Sydney, the southern tablelands, the Blue Mountains; let alone the western side of Lake Macquarie, the foreshores of Port Stephens or the beaches of Byron Bay..

SYDNEY has the SECOND most expensive real-estate after Honkers, equal second with Switzerland, while Melbourne was #6.

AND then you have your British building "standards" ~ or non-existent, in fact, when isn't it true that many of your houses over there STILL have no bathrooms or laundries, with the funny dunnies still down the back garden ?

LET ALONE all that dangerous wiring and suspect plumbing.. Suspect

by nicko Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:01 pm

Australia has many animals that can kill you,we have one the adder.we don't have to lift the toilet seat to look for spiders,we can go for a swim without being eaten by sharks or crocodiles we have great country side, it looks lovely when covered in snow. [mind you everything comes to a halt if we have more than a half inch] Laughing

by Beekeeper Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:19 pm

:D Sharks can be found in our local creeks, wetlands and rivers at times...

One does not have to go to the beach to find sharks ~ the Bull shark, or "River shark", found in many parts of the world, can live in fresh or brackish water for a time ~ meaning that it can be found at times further up stream than the unwary may like to kid themselves..

Redbacks are endemic to old-fashioned outside dunnies down the backyard, especially those with old old wooden toilet seats ~ they tend not to be found in modern inside toilets..

AS one moves up north you may encounter the "Salties" or salt water crocodiles ~ and they tend to take over from the sharks in the man-eating stakes.

AND then there's the "Box Jellyfish" and a couple of it's Asian cousins that float down from Japan for a summer holiday ~ much more deadly than the more familiar Portuguese Man-of-War jellyfish..

And of course there's no end to the various fish, octopuses, and other sea-life that can bite, sting or stab you... tongue

Fortunately, none of these critters are found out in our countryside ~ out there the biggest problems tend to be rabid 4WD'rs and motorcyclists, and drunken and/or short-sighted shooters ~ followed by snakes, spiders, vampire possums, drop bears, red and grey 'Old Man' kangaroos, and ol' cranky farmers with shotguns chasing off those hoards of forrin' tourists.. pale

by Guest Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:21 pm

So after all that then.......there are still thousands of Australians living & working in the UK & there are more of them coming.This is straight forward factual good news........Factual.....just like the abo slums in Sydney.

by Guest Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:36 pm

nicko wrote:Australia has many animals that can kill you,we have one the adder.we don't have to lift the toilet seat to look for spiders,we can go for a swim without being eaten by sharks or crocodiles we have great country side, it looks lovely when covered in snow. [mind you everything comes to a halt if we have more than a half inch]

As much as I love to go away there is no place like home Nicko Why Do So Many Australians Move to London? Love_h46

x

by nicko Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:58 pm

so true ftl,especialy if its England.

by veya_victaous Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:07 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:Crikey, you must be really wound up to have gone away and thought of another post veya.

lol

lol no thats just quick of the top of my head list. Laughing

it really is a no brainer All the numbers show we are going to UK in lower numbers and leaving earlier. Like I said it is the Pay, 20 years ago was the opposite, but while you have had ups and downs we have just had growth. We have more UK migrants than people immigrating to the UK.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/migration1/migration-statistics-quarterly-report/august-2013/sty-migration.html

seems some of you English have a clue, the number 1 country for British to move to Australia. (15%)
"final estimates show that 49,000 emigrants from the UK intended to live in Australia. Of this number, 36,000 were British citizens."

"Over the last five years, fourth and fifth places in the ranking have fluctuated between Australia, Germany, the USA, Pakistan and China" (5%) which is slightly under 25,000 so almost twices as many of you lot come here. tongue

Plus Teasing Englishmen is good for the Soul ::alahoo:: ::alahoo:: ::alahoo:: ::alahoo::

by Beekeeper Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:50 am

Shady wrote:
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Factual.....just like the abo slums in Sydney.

WHERE are these non-existent "slums" of your imagination located, Shady ???

NAME their suburbs, Shady..

TELL us what the street names are ! ::lies::

by Beekeeper Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:58 pm

Beekeeper wrote::D Sharks can be found in our local creeks, wetlands and rivers at times...

One does not have to go to the beach to find sharks ~ the Bull shark, or "River shark", found in many parts of the world, can live in fresh or brackish water for a time ~ meaning that it can be found at times further up stream than the unwary may like to kid themselves..

Redbacks are endemic to old-fashioned outside dunnies down the backyard, especially those with old old wooden toilet seats ~ they tend not to be found in modern inside toilets..

AS one moves up north you may encounter the "Salties" or salt water crocodiles ~ and they tend to take over from the sharks in the man-eating stakes.

AND then there's the "Box Jellyfish" and a couple of it's Asian cousins that float down from Japan for a summer holiday ~ much more deadly than the more familiar Portuguese Man-of-War jellyfish..

And of course there's no end to the various fish, octopuses, and other sea-life that can bite, sting or stab you...

Fortunately, none of these critters are found out in our countryside ~ out there the biggest problems tend to be rabid 4WD'rs and motorcyclists, and drunken and/or short-sighted shooters ~ followed by snakes, spiders, vampire possums, drop bears, red and grey 'Old Man' kangaroos, and ol' cranky farmers with shotguns chasing off those hoards of forrin' tourists..

by Guest Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:23 pm

Beekeeper wrote:
Shady wrote:
......................................................

Factual.....just like the abo slums in Sydney.

WHERE are these non-existent "slums" of your imagination located, Shady ???

NAME their suburbs, Shady..

TELL us what the street names are ! ::lies::

Yep.Full details on their way Beaky & that includes post codes as well.

Why Do So Many Australians Move to London? 5485113

My tent or yours.

by Beekeeper Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:48 am

AND THEN Veya or myself can then go and photograph those towns and streets in question, depending on who is closest ~ and post up-to-date images on here...

JUST to prove to everybody else's satisfaction that there AREN'T any such slums down around Sydney.. Razz

AND I'll give two cartons of VB to Shady if he can find an "Aboriginal Slum" anywhere within the Sydney suburban areas ! ::drnkpst::

by Guest Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:27 pm

Beekeeper wrote:

AND THEN Veya or myself can then go and photograph those towns and streets in question, depending on who is closest ~ and post up-to-date images on here...

JUST to prove to everybody else's satisfaction that there AREN'T any such slums down around Sydney..
AND I'll give two cartons of VB to Shady if he can find an "Aboriginal Slum" anywhere within the Sydney suburban areas ! ::drnkpst::

Good afternoon Beaky.

Yours is an absolutely brilliant idea & it's good no it's amazing to learn that you & Veya would actually go to the extent of photographing those towns & streets in question.That's devotion for you & may I say well done in advance of your results.

Before you go ahead,what action did you take following my recent submission of a link containing the full details of the aboriginal slums as described?

I seem to recall submitting that link earlier..........funny how I didn't receive a positive response to it.

Has there been some kind of misunderstanding?

by Beekeeper Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:00 pm

Shady wrote:........................................

Good afternoon Beaky.

Yours is an absolutely brilliant idea & it's good no it's amazing to learn that you & Veya would actually go to the extent of photographing those towns & streets in question.That's devotion for you & may I say well done in advance of your results.

Before you go ahead, what action did you take following my recent submission of a link containing the full details of the aboriginal slums as described?

I seem to recall submitting that link earlier..........funny how I didn't receive a positive response to it.

Has there been some kind of misunderstanding?

I HAVEN'T yet seen any such links, your Shadiness...

Suspect

by Guest Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:06 pm

Beekeeper wrote:
Shady wrote:........................................

Good afternoon Beaky.

Yours is an absolutely brilliant idea & it's good no it's amazing to learn that you & Veya would actually go to the extent of photographing those towns & streets in question.That's devotion for you & may I say well done in advance of your results.

Before you go ahead, what action did you take following my recent submission of a link containing the full details of the aboriginal slums as described?

I seem to recall submitting that link earlier..........funny how I didn't receive a positive response to it.

Has there been some kind of misunderstanding?

I HAVEN'T yet seen any such links, your Shadiness...

Beaky?........Not that old gag?

Beekeeper while you're there,have the authorities killed that croc that took the 12 year old boy? Either way it's sad news for the boy & family & sad news for the croc if any are killed.

by Beekeeper Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:26 pm

Yesterday it was reported that they had killed three croc's in that river, but didn't yet know if any of them was a killer; (I suppose they'll have to check their teeth and mouths for human DNA, if they don't find any actual remains,to see if they were involved..).

THERE does seem to have been a bit of an increase in people taken by croc's in the NT, FNQ and the top end of WA over recent years..

BUT it should be pointed out at the same time, that this increase in the frequency of attacks does follow the increased incursions into these creature's natural home territories by people venturing into places that they didn't go to until recently ~ swimming, surfing and skindiving in "new" areas and "opening up" remote regions to more visitors.

by Guest Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:09 pm

Beekeeper wrote:
Yesterday it was reported that they had killed three croc's in that river, but didn't yet know if any of them was a killer; (I suppose they'll have to check their teeth and mouths for human DNA, if they don't find any actual remains,to see if they were involved..).

THERE does seem to have been a bit of an increase in people taken by croc's in the NT, FNQ and the top end of WA over recent years..

BUT it should be pointed out at the same time, that this increase in the frequency of attacks does follow the increased incursions into these creature's natural home territories by people venturing into places that they didn't go to until recently ~ swimming, surfing and skindiving in "new" areas and "opening up" remote regions to more visitors.

This is absolute mental insanity because the croc was only doing what comes naturally....eating.I can hardly believe that people would be so stupid as to kill an animal under these circumstances & they are treating the animal like it has the mind of a human killer.

The 12 year old boy was doing something really stupid in swimming in water where he knew there were crocs but I remember at that age doing some stupid & dangerous things.Not swimming with crocs I hasten to say as we don't have too many of them up here.But I recall cycling down a very long steep slope that led to a very narrow footpath on the bank of the partially frozen Grand Union canal.....with no brakes on my bike.

Poor kid & poor relatives.

by Beekeeper Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:00 am

AND there's never any guarantee that a mass slaughter of any animals that might present a "possible danger" to visiting humans will make one iota of difference to the incidence of any future attacks...

A PERFECT example of that human stupidity producing a collective need for a blanket "revenge attack" in return, can be seen in Western Australia's and South Australia's 'knee-jerk' reactions to couple of recent shark attacks ~ bring in contractors and start random killings of sharks off their beaches..

EVEN though it's obvious that it can't possibly do anything to make their beaches safer ~ it STILL makes it look like the pollies and councillors are "doing something" ! NEVER mind the likelihood that the killer sharks are probably long gone and possibly sunning themselves over in Fiji or Tokyo by now, or even before that netting and shooting had even begun.. Rolling Eyes

by eddie Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:05 pm

Hahahahahah I daresay there is good and bad in both countries but one thing stands way out on this thread:

You Aussies have only just discovered emoticons and your obsession with them is so cute. Smile

:<:i}:

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