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Post by Syl Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:11 pm

I have just been searching for a holiday online and come across (for the first time) hotels stipulating gay only.

Are they legal? Would it be OK to advertise 'straight only' hotels?

I remember a few years ago the Christian owners of a b&b hotel were found guilty of discrimination when they refused a gay couple accommodation.
Their argument was they would refuse any unmarried couple a double room. (This was before gay marriage was legalised) they still lost in court though.
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:17 pm

Syl wrote:I have just been searching for a holiday online and come across (for the first time) hotels stipulating gay only.

Are they legal? Would it be OK to advertise 'straight only' hotels?

I remember a few years ago the Christian owners of a b&b hotel were found guilty of discrimination when they refused a gay couple accommodation.
Their argument was they would refuse any unmarried couple a double room. (This was before gay marriage was legalised) they still lost in court though.


Can you post an example Syl?

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Post by eddie Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:20 pm

There are so many hotels around I dint have a problem with a gay-only hotel.
I'm not really sure why gays would want to stay in a gay-only hotel though? It's not like they live any differently!
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Post by eddie Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:17 pm

Major wrote:They do live differently, hence their activitiz.

Oh you mean sex? I am thinking that like most ordinary people, they will shut their bedroom doors and do it away from the pubic.
So what else is different?
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:10 pm

eddie wrote:There are so many hotels around I dint have a problem with a gay-only hotel.
I'm not really sure why gays would want to stay in a gay-only hotel though? It's not like they live any differently!

That's my view on this too - they go on holiday like anyone else so can't see the point .

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Post by Eilzel Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:18 pm

There was definitely a reason for gay only hotels in the past, when being openly gay was seriously a risk and a person would want to feel safe.

But now there is no need. Gay people can and should be able to stay anywhere they like, and retaining some gay only hotels does leave us open to being called out for double standards.

I didn't know any strictly gay only hotels existed though tbh.
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Post by Syl Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:43 am

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Syl wrote:I have just been searching for a holiday online and come across (for the first time) hotels stipulating gay only.

Are they legal? Would it be OK to advertise 'straight only' hotels?

I remember a few years ago the Christian owners of a b&b hotel were found guilty of discrimination when they refused a gay couple accommodation.
Their argument was they would refuse any unmarried couple a double room. (This was before gay marriage was legalised) they still lost in court though.


Can you post an example Syl?

I didn't keep the name of the hotel Thor...it was a 4 star in Maspalona, Gran Canaria. It came up on a list when I was browsing for holidays. It distinctly said ..gay only...I have never seen that before, just wondered if others had, and would it be legal.

It wouldn't bother me, each to their own, but I don't really see the point of wanting to be segregated.
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Post by Syl Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:48 am

Eilzel wrote:There was definitely a reason for gay only hotels in the past, when being openly gay was seriously a risk and a person would want to feel safe.

But now there is no need. Gay people can and should be able to stay anywhere they like, and retaining some gay only hotels does leave us open to being called out for double standards.

I didn't know any strictly gay only hotels existed though tbh.

Yes in the past I can see maybe there would have been a point, I imagine they would have had to be secret though, not openly advertised as this was.

In Manchester we have the gay village....it's lively , friendly and mostly peaceful.
As far as I am aware all the clubs and pubs welcome straights in too.
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Post by veya_victaous Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:26 am

the idea of 'gay' stickily speaking is outdated in itself.
There is a rainbow of sexuality (hence the rainbow flag)

Does this hotel not allow trans, bi or other orientations that are still same sex attracted?
where does the line of 'gay' start and begin?
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Post by Eilzel Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:45 am

Syl wrote:
Eilzel wrote:There was definitely a reason for gay only hotels in the past, when being openly gay was seriously a risk and a person would want to feel safe.

But now there is no need. Gay people can and should be able to stay anywhere they like, and retaining some gay only hotels does leave us open to being called out for double standards.

I didn't know any strictly gay only hotels existed though tbh.

Yes in the past I can see maybe there would have been a point, I imagine they would have had to be secret though, not openly advertised as this was.

In Manchester we have the gay village....it's lively , friendly and mostly peaceful.
As far as I am aware all the clubs and pubs welcome straights in too.

Yeah they do. And a lot of non gay people I know prefer the atmosphere too Smile
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Post by Syl Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:20 pm

Eilzel wrote:
Syl wrote:

Yes in the past I can see maybe there would have been a point, I imagine they would have had to be secret though, not openly advertised as this was.

In Manchester we have the gay village....it's lively , friendly and mostly peaceful.
As far as I am aware all the clubs and pubs welcome straights in too.

Yeah they do. And a lot of non gay people I know prefer the atmosphere too Smile

I used to go quite a lot...nowadays it's all a bit too noisy for me. If we go to town we generally just go out for a meal then a taxi home.
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Post by Raggamuffin Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:25 pm

I think they're legal if they're a "private club".
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Post by Syl Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:34 pm

This was the hotel that flashed up yesterday when I was browsing holidays.

https://www.expedia.co.uk/Gran-Canaria-Hotels-Seven-Hotel-Wellness-Gay-Only.h9254608.Hotel-Information
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Post by HoratioTarr Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:49 pm

Can you blame them with all the homophobia around?
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Post by Guest Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:54 pm

I can't tell if someone is gay - if they announce then yeah but why would they if they just want to live life , no need in making themselves out to be anything special is there ?

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Post by Eilzel Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:05 pm

No one is doing that vod.
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Post by Guest Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:11 pm

Eilzel wrote:No one is doing that vod.

I know that's why there doesn't need to be gay only hotels , why the need for them ?

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Post by eddie Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:29 pm

Perhaps the need is there for those recently 'out' who are a bit shy...?
I don't see the point or the need for them (apart from the reason I just suggested) but by the same token I don't care if they exist either.
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Post by Syl Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:47 pm

I dont care either.
I can imagine some people would care though if there were straight only hotels. What a Face
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Post by Eilzel Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:13 am

They would, Syl, but I think it would come down to the cause for their existence.

Most understand that a gay only hotel might exist due to the feeling of needing a safe place given the existence of homophobia (though again, in the UK at least, there isn't much need of this now).

What reason would there be for having a straight only hotel? What reason would there be to exclude gay people?
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Post by Syl Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:49 pm

Eilzel wrote:They would, Syl, but I think it would come down to the cause for their existence.

Most understand that a gay only hotel might exist due to the feeling of needing a safe place given the existence of homophobia (though again, in the UK at least, there isn't much need of this now).

What reason would there be for having a straight only hotel? What reason would there be to exclude gay people?

No reason Eilzel, just as I personally see no reason to segregate anyone from hotels.

Even the 'adults only' hotels seem a bit discriminatory to me, but they thrive.
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