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by Original Quill Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:45 pm

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Trump blasts Meryl Streep after Golden Globes speech
Dylan Stableford

President-elect Donald Trump is firing back at Meryl Streep after the actress used her acceptance speech for the Cecil B. DeMille Award at the Golden Globes to scold him for mocking a disabled reporter during the presidential campaign.

“Meryl Streep, one of the most over-rated actresses in Hollywood, doesn’t know me but attacked last night at the Golden Globes,” Trump tweeted, noting that Streep had campaigned for his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton.

“She is a Hillary flunky who lost big,” Trump wrote.

During her speech, the 67-year-old three-time Oscar winner said there were “many, many powerful performances” by actors this year, “but there was one performance this year that stunned” her.

“It sank its hooks in my heart,” she said. “Not because it was good; there was nothing good about it. But it was effective, and it did its job. It made its intended audience laugh and show their teeth. It was that moment when the person asking to sit in the most respected seat in our country imitated a disabled reporter. Someone he outranked in privilege, power, and the capacity to fight back.”

During a rally in November 2015, Trump launched into an impression of Serge Kovaleski, a New York Times reporter who suffers from arthrogryposis, a congenital joint condition, after Kovaleski pushed back against Trump’s use of a 2001 article he wrote as proof of the candidate’s false assertion that “thousands and thousands of people” in Muslim neighborhoods in New Jersey were cheering in the destruction of the World Trade Center on 9/11.

“It kind of broke my heart when I saw it,” Streep continued. “And I still can’t get it out of my head, because it wasn’t in a movie. It was real life. And this instinct to humiliate, when it’s modeled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, it filters down into everybody’s life, because it kinda gives permission for other people to do the same thing. Disrespect invites disrespect, violence incites violence. And when the powerful use their position to bully others, we all lose.”

Trump has claimed he wasn’t mocking Kovaleski’s disability, but merely his nerves. At the time, Kovaleski said he had interviewed Trump in his office and was once on a first-name basis with the real estate magnate. “Despite having one of the all-time great memories, I certainly do not remember him,” Trump said of the reporter in 2015.

“I was never mocking anyone,” Trump told the Times on Sunday night. “I was calling into question a reporter who had gotten nervous because he had changed his story.
“People keep saying I intended to mock the reporter’s disability, as if Meryl Streep and others could read my mind, and I did no such thing,” Trump continued.

On Monday, Trump again sought to clarify his impersonation of Kovaleski.
“For the 100th time, I never ‘mocked’ a disabled reporter (would never do that) but simply showed him ‘groveling’ when he totally changed a 16 year old story that he had written in order to make me look bad,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “Just more very dishonest media!”

In an interview with “Fox & Friends” on Monday morning, Kellyanne Conway, Trump’s former campaign manager and senior adviser, said Streep’s comments were concerning.
“I’m concerned that somebody with a platform like Meryl Streep’s is inciting people’s worst instincts,” Conway said.

by eddie Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:51 pm

Yes I watched them and I agree; I dont much like her but she was the only adult on the podium.

by Original Quill Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:28 pm

Syl wrote:I know the best way forwards for the Americans is to try to support him (like we try to support the useless gang of politicians that we are stuck with presently) but he 'Trump', makes it very hard.

There is a difference between 'good' and 'evil'.

Had America elected Dylann Roof--a close approximation--would it even be acceptable to support him? What do we have criminal laws for?

It's one thing to say put aside political differences, but it's another thing to turn a blind eye to a criminal. A man who disparages the disabled, hates minorities, insults women, wants to trash the Constitution, outlaw certain religions, disses the troops, calls the generals 'rubbish' and cohabits with dictators and enemies of the state is hardly someone you want to cozy up to. To call for unity with a person like that is itself unconscionable.

by eddie Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:43 pm

Well if there's any sort or proveable dirt on him, they'd better act soon.

by Original Quill Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:22 pm

eddie wrote:Well if there's any sort or proveable dirt on him, they'd better act soon.

Wait until the story develops. There's no hurry.

Meantime, he's done enough to keep him in hot water until this pops. Even his cabinet nominees are openly disagreeing with him. Waterboarding? Kissing the Russian bear's ass? It's not as if the sex tape story is untrue. Does anyone really believe that the pussy-grabber didn't jump at the chance to grab pussy with some Ruski babes?

Oh, and need I remind you...he also lies. Take anything he says, invert it, and run with the story in the opposite direction. He has denied his lewd tape with nudity and Ruski babes in a mirrored Moscow hotel room? Take it from me, believe it like gospel.

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by Syl Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:57 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Syl wrote:I know the best way forwards for the Americans is to try to support him (like we try to support the useless gang of politicians that we are stuck with presently) but he 'Trump', makes it very hard.

There is a difference between 'good' and 'evil'.

Had America elected Dylann Roof--a close approximation--would it even be acceptable to support him? What do we have criminal laws for?

It's one thing to say put aside political differences, but it's another thing to turn a blind eye to a criminal. A man who disparages the disabled, hates minorities, insults women, wants to trash the Constitution, outlaw certain religions, disses the troops, calls the generals 'rubbish' and cohabits with dictators and enemies of the state is hardly someone you want to cozy up to. To call for unity with a person like that is itself unconscionable.

I agree with you Quill.....If he is a criminal he should never be president, he should never have been given the opportunity to run for president.
Like Eddie said......if there is any criminal activity that can be proven, someone better get their finger out and prove it.

by Original Quill Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:26 pm

Syl wrote:
Original Quill wrote:

There is a difference between 'good' and 'evil'.

Had America elected Dylann Roof--a close approximation--would it even be acceptable to support him? What do we have criminal laws for?

It's one thing to say put aside political differences, but it's another thing to turn a blind eye to a criminal. A man who disparages the disabled, hates minorities, insults women, wants to trash the Constitution, outlaw certain religions, disses the troops, calls the generals 'rubbish' and cohabits with dictators and enemies of the state is hardly someone you want to cozy up to. To call for unity with a person like that is itself unconscionable.

I agree with you Quill.....If he is a criminal he should never be president, he should never have been given the opportunity to run for president.
Like Eddie said......if there is any criminal activity that can be proven, someone better get their finger out and prove it.

Proof is an elusive creature...it always comes out eventually, but on its own time. Fortunately, the Constitution has its own legal standard, which is far less than the criminal standard, beyond a reasonable doubt.

The standard used in the Constitution for impeachment is high crimes and misdemeanors. In other words, it covers the whole array, top to bottom, and leaves it up to the tribunal to define. Since impeachment is a part of the removal process, and not a loss of life or liberty, it is relatively relaxed on certainty.

The circumstantial evidence is already in place, as I've pointed out next door. There is enough evidence in place to prove that Trump has a sexual deviancy issue.

Wiki wrote:This concept refers to behaviors that involve individuals seeking erotic gratification through means that are considered odd, different, or unacceptable to either most or influential persons in one's community.

Coupled with the allegation of blackmail by a foreign power, clearly there is implication of a violation of the Espionage Act. Stated succinctly, Trump is a foreign asset, cooperating with a foreign government for personal advantage contrary to the interests of the United States.

So, much of knowledge of the scheme is already in place. Mark my word as a former prosecutor, the kind of evidence we are talking about is salacious enough, involving persons important enough, to be immensely profitable to someone. And we all know the Russian propensity for crime and profit. It is inevitable that such evidence must come out...and soon. It's profitability is at its peak right now. In the very near future, someone removed enough, and having enough temerity, will come forward with a copy of the Moscow tape.

Be patient. In the meantime, we might speculate. My bet is, he is into 'femdom' games, and the plot of the tape is the girls don't yield to the 'safe' word. Evil or Very Mad

by Syl Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:50 pm

It's all very well being patient, but how much damage will he do whilst people are biding their time ?
My bet is if there was anything criminal he has done that could have been PROVEN in a court of law.....it would have already happened.

Maybe the powers that be are going to shut him up another way....it's happened in the past, it can happen again imo.

by eddie Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:11 pm

If he isn't assisnated by the powers that be that will be because they put him there.

by Original Quill Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:18 pm

Syl wrote:It's all very well being patient, but how much damage will he do whilst people are biding their time ?
My bet is if there was anything criminal he has done that could have been PROVEN in a court of law.....it would have already happened.

Nah...to the contrary, they'll move very slowly and carefully with him. Remember that thread I did a while ago, where I speculated that he was running to become political so as to avoid criminal prosecution? Well, that would still be the plan, but under this scenario the threat would be for alleged Espionage Act violations. He's still running from the law, only they're being veeerrrrry careful.

But my, look how things are expanding. James Comey, the director of the FBI, is now being swept into an investigation by the IG of the Justice Department. You will recall he was a part of those unprecedented last-minute leaks on Hillary just before the election. Is he part of the cover-up?

In the end the press is going to have to pick up the pieces and run with it. But my bet is the sex tape will be on the marking for the right price.

Syl wrote:Maybe the powers that be are going to shut him up another way....it's happened in the past, it can happen again imo.

I don't know. As a former law enforcement officer, I don't like that kind of speculation. But as you say, it does happen. You need some sort of organization to pull that off. We know enough about the Kennedy assassination to know that the Cubans, with help from within the intelligence community of the US, were probably behind it. However, it is true that Trump is pissing off a lot within the intelligence community again.

The source of info on the sex tape is a British agent: Christopher Steele, a former MI6 officer and the director of a private-sector security firm in London. He was named as the author of the 35-page packet making the explosive claims about Trump:

The Washington Post wrote:Steele, a Cambridge University graduate, “was one of the more eminent Russia specialists for the Secret Intelligence Service,” better known as MI6, and had spent two years in Moscow in the 1990s. The newspaper said he was a contemporary and friend of Alex Younger, who now heads MI6, and at one point Steele was in charge of the service’s Russia desk.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/12/this-former-british-spy-was-identified-as-the-trump-dossier-source-now-he-is-in-hiding/?utm_term=.9d924ca08387

Are the British involved? Would they...

by Original Quill Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:36 am

Original Quill wrote:But my, look how things are expanding. James Comey, the director of the FBI, is now being swept into an investigation by the IG of the Justice Department. You will recall he was a part of those unprecedented last-minute leaks on Hillary just before the election. Is he part of the cover-up?

Cover-up? Damn, I'm slipping. He's right in the middle of the Trump pussy tape.

Apparently Mr. Steel, British author of the whole mess, decided that what he was finding out was too hot to handle. So he sent his findings to Mr. Comey...Director of the FBI.

Now, let's stop and take stock: this is the same Mr. Comey who held a press conference about the investigation of Hillary Clinton. FBI standards say you don't comment on investigations, and even after the fact you merely bring charges...never comment. But this is the guy who openly commented on the investigation of the Democratic candidate, Hillary...and who failed to disclose that there was an investigation into the question of whether the Republican candidate was a Russian spy.

Now, I think this surpasses the question of any cover-up. I have serious questions about whether Mr. Comey is a Russian spy. That is supported by the fact that he suppressed a story about Russian meddling in the democratic processes in America, but willingly spoke about the other candidate's emails.

Today, Mr. Comey, despite his open willingness to talk about the investigation about the other candidate, maintained that he follows a practice of not commenting on an on-going investigation. What duplicity...what a fookin' liar!

I have every suspicion that the investigation of Mr. Comey will result in a finding that the FBI is being run by Russia, and that Mr. Comey is a Russian agent along with Mr. Trump.

by Syl Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:11 pm

Original Quill wrote:
Original Quill wrote:But my, look how things are expanding. James Comey, the director of the FBI, is now being swept into an investigation by the IG of the Justice Department. You will recall he was a part of those unprecedented last-minute leaks on Hillary just before the election. Is he part of the cover-up?

Cover-up? Damn, I'm slipping. He's right in the middle of the Trump pussy tape.

Apparently Mr. Steel, British author of the whole mess, decided that what he was finding out was too hot to handle. So he sent his findings to Mr. Comey...Director of the FBI.

Now, let's stop and take stock: this is the same Mr. Comey who held a press conference about the investigation of Hillary Clinton. FBI standards say you don't comment on investigations, and even after the fact you merely bring charges...never comment. But this is the guy who openly commented on the investigation of the Democratic candidate, Hillary...and who failed to disclose that there was an investigation into the question of whether the Republican candidate was a Russian spy.

Now, I think this surpasses the question of any cover-up. I have serious questions about whether Mr. Comey is a Russian spy. That is supported by the fact that he suppressed a story about Russian meddling in the democratic processes in America, but willingly spoke about the other candidate's emails.

Today, Mr. Comey, despite his open willingness to talk about the investigation about the other candidate, maintained that he follows a practice of not commenting on an on-going investigation. What duplicity...what a fookin' liar!

I have every suspicion that the investigation of Mr. Comey will result in a finding that the FBI is being run by Russia, and that Mr. Comey is a Russian agent along with Mr. Trump.

I don't think most Brits have followed all this as closely as you have Quill....but in reply to your query "Are the British involved? would they".... I would say any nation would help if they could....it affects us all.

by Original Quill Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:54 pm

Syl wrote:I don't think most Brits have followed all this as closely as you have Quill....but in reply to your query "Are the British involved? would they".... I would say any nation would help if they could....it affects us all.

I think we are finding out that this runs deeper than any of us imagined possible. After the Cold War we let our guard down, and little did we know that a worse Russia was yet to come. That is the Russia of organized crime and slippery ethics.

I think it's a warning to any nation: watch your own back. Ancillary to this, I have no doubt that Putin did not stop at a one-caper gambit. He's doing the same thing to your government. Why not, it works?

Plus, he needs to sell his oil, and the embargo may be US-led, but it involves all of your Europe. (Keep in mind, the US only needs to sell oil; you guys actually need it to fill your tanks.) Have there been any kinky national leaders elected to high office in Europe recently? Italy? France?

World domination without the baggage of ideology or morals.

by 'Wolfie Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:04 pm

ANOTHER aspect of "global" politics that the USA, Britain, most of Europe, and much of S.E. Asia seems to have often lost sight of in recent decades...

While corporatised America and our guvm'nts' multinational masters tend to only look at year-on-year profits, 5-year plans and tricked_up faux "balanced budgets"; Russia, China and India think and plan more in terms of centuries, and even millenia, rather than mere years..

by Original Quill Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:41 pm

eddie wrote:Well if there's any sort or proveable dirt on him, they'd better act soon.

The report at 157 reads:

...Russian authorities. One which had borne fruit for them was to explain Trump’s personal obsessions and sexual perversion in order to obtain suitable ‘kompromat’ (compromising material) on him. According to Source D, where s/he had been present, Trump’s (perverted) conduct in Moscow included hiring the presidential suite of the Ritz Carlton Hotel, where he knew President and Mrs Obama (whom he hated) had stayed on one of their official trips to Russia, and defiling the bed where they had slept by employing a number of prostitutes to perform a ‘golden shower’ (urination) show in front of him. The hotel was known to be under FSB control with microphones and concealed cameras in all the main rooms…

by eddie Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:51 pm

Yuck. Thanks for that.

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