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White supremacist Trump supporter: "We won ... America belongs to white men"
White nationalist leader Richard Spencer continued to espouse his dangerous rhetoric during an unauthorized speech at Texas A&M last night, which was met with widespread protests.
To a crowd of approximately 400, Spencer — whose cry of “Hail Trump” infamously prompted a Hitler salute at an ‘alt-right’ gathering last month — praised Trump as “the first step toward white identity politics in the United States.” While a few in the audience clapped, most of the attendees appeared to be there in dissent, jeering Spencer as he spoke. According to a student reporter, there were at least two potential altercations during the speech and some students had to be escorted out.
“Whether it’s nice to say that or not, we won, and we got to define what America means,” Spencer declared. “That means we got to define what this continent means. America at the end of the day belongs to white men.”
Like the alt-right movement at large, Spencer’s rhetoric is an ugly blend of racism and misogyny working in tandem. At a press conference in advance of his speech, he derided feminism as having “seduced many women into thinking that ‘Oh, men are wrong, I need to be myself, I need to have a career, I need to do this.’”
“They wake up,” he added, “they’re 45, they’re living with cats and they’re extremely unhappy.” (Add cats to the list of groups Spencer apparently hates.)
Also at the presser, Spencer mocked the school president and the students demonstrating against him. “The fact that the president of Texas A&M University has created the world’s largest safe space, I think we might need to call Guinness,” he said. “It shows the power of the ideas. He’s actually making us much more powerful. He is demonstrating the truth that our ideas are important.”
Hundreds of students protested against Spencer’s speech, which was not authorized by the school but was organized by a former student who rented out a space on campus.
http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/12/hundreds-protest-white-nationalist-leader-richard-spencer.html
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"America at the end of the day belongs to white men"
I cannot believe people still think like this. I cannot believe that he thinks those words are somehow true. I cannot believe that man has walked through his life and not fallen over his own ignorance.
I cannot believe people still think like this. I cannot believe that he thinks those words are somehow true. I cannot believe that man has walked through his life and not fallen over his own ignorance.
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eddie wrote:"America at the end of the day belongs to white men"
I cannot believe people still think like this. I cannot believe that he thinks those words are somehow true. I cannot believe that man has walked through his life and not fallen over his own ignorance.
You want to see where he went to high school? I've actually been to the campus:
Dallas Saint Mark's private school, annual tuition $28,000 to $30,000.
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Do any black or Asian people go there?
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Here's Spencer:
The alt-right call that dipshit hair style a "fashy" (as in fascist).
Rich people of all races go to St. Marks.
The alt-right call that dipshit hair style a "fashy" (as in fascist).
Rich people of all races go to St. Marks.
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Ben Reilly wrote:White nationalist leader Richard Spencer continued to espouse his dangerous rhetoric during an unauthorized speech at Texas A&M last night, which was met with widespread protests.
To a crowd of approximately 400, Spencer — whose cry of “Hail Trump” infamously prompted a Hitler salute at an ‘alt-right’ gathering last month — praised Trump as “the first step toward white identity politics in the United States.” While a few in the audience clapped, most of the attendees appeared to be there in dissent, jeering Spencer as he spoke. According to a student reporter, there were at least two potential altercations during the speech and some students had to be escorted out.
“Whether it’s nice to say that or not, we won, and we got to define what America means,” Spencer declared. “That means we got to define what this continent means. America at the end of the day belongs to white men.”
Like the alt-right movement at large, Spencer’s rhetoric is an ugly blend of racism and misogyny working in tandem. At a press conference in advance of his speech, he derided feminism as having “seduced many women into thinking that ‘Oh, men are wrong, I need to be myself, I need to have a career, I need to do this.’”
“They wake up,” he added, “they’re 45, they’re living with cats and they’re extremely unhappy.” (Add cats to the list of groups Spencer apparently hates.)
Also at the presser, Spencer mocked the school president and the students demonstrating against him. “The fact that the president of Texas A&M University has created the world’s largest safe space, I think we might need to call Guinness,” he said. “It shows the power of the ideas. He’s actually making us much more powerful. He is demonstrating the truth that our ideas are important.”
Hundreds of students protested against Spencer’s speech, which was not authorized by the school but was organized by a former student who rented out a space on campus.
http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/12/hundreds-protest-white-nationalist-leader-richard-spencer.html
America belongs to the Red Indians! The rest are just Eastern settlers!
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They give their hairstyle a name. How radical.
He reminds me of Tommy Robinson (or whatever he calls himself now) same kind of look.
He reminds me of Tommy Robinson (or whatever he calls himself now) same kind of look.
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eddie wrote:They give their hairstyle a name. How radical.
He reminds me of Tommy Robinson (or whatever he calls himself now) same kind of look.
His hair is much shorter on top.
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Yes I know. But he puts me in mind of Richard Spencer.
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I only point out Spencer's education and background because typically, the ranks of white supremacy are made up of white male losers who lack the talent and drive to make a living in any system that doesn't treat them with racial preference.
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Ben Reilly wrote:I only point out Spencer's education and background because typically, the ranks of white supremacy are made up of white male losers who lack the talent and drive to make a living in any system that doesn't treat them with racial preference.
Wherever they come from, what ever education they had, they are dangerous and are making the world a dangerous place for everyone on the planet.
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Ben Reilly wrote:I only point out Spencer's education and background because typically, the ranks of white supremacy are made up of white male losers who lack the talent and drive to make a living in any system that doesn't treat them with racial preference.
Always remember, there are two tiers in the conservative movement: The idiots and the idiots who lead them.
J.S. Mill wrote:I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant that stupid persons are generally Conservative. —John Stuart Mill
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Original Quill wrote:Ben Reilly wrote:I only point out Spencer's education and background because typically, the ranks of white supremacy are made up of white male losers who lack the talent and drive to make a living in any system that doesn't treat them with racial preference.
Always remember, there are two tiers in the conservative movement: The idiots and the idiots who lead them.J.S. Mill wrote:I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant that stupid persons are generally Conservative. —John Stuart Mill
Too true. Also worth noting is that Spencer once had a black girlfriend. You think maybe she done that poor boy wrong?
You see this so often -- the rabidly anti-gay Republican congressman caught with a gay prostitute. The guy who dedicates his career to finding pedophiles who turns out to have a huge collection of kiddie porn. The reformed skinhead who confesses he's always been attracted to Jewish women.
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The Advocate (Blake Pruitt) wrote:I decided to make a short documentary, 20MALEGAYNYC, after hearing each of my gay male friends say, “I hate gay guys,” or at least, “I hate stereotypical gay guys.” I wanted to talk to gay men about gay men – what it means to be our age, gay, and living in New York in the year 2012; how we treat each other; and how stereotypes play a role in our daily lives.
The chance to interview my close friends —friends who have expressed disillusionment, frustration, and dismissal towards the gay community (or lack thereof) off-camera – was a moving experience. I found them articulate, honest, and brave for giving voice to thoughts that I’ve been wrestling with, as well as ones that are far more complex than anything I’d thought about prior to the interviews.
No one is going to say in an interview, “I basically fulfill every gay stereotype,” but every single one of these guys (myself included) are capable of acting in stereotypical ways. But these “gay guys who just want to sleep with each other,” or “boa-wearing gay guys,” or “ninety pound boys in tank tops screaming” are images that we’ve convinced ourselves exist as whole people, and not just elements or stereotypes.
Some have an expectation that other members of the community should not act in a typically homosexual or heterosexual way for lack of a “real personality.” However, I’m confident that I could speak with any gay man, however many boas he may be wearing, and have an intelligent discussion about gay identity and internalized homophobia. And he would continue on his way, skipping down the street singing showtunes. The stereotype is not “the other”—it’s us. When we push away other members of our own community by labeling them as a thing rather than a person, even though we acknowledge that the concept of this “thing” comes from outside the gay world, we’re doing ourselves a disservice. Renato identifies this (correctly, I believe) in the film as partially coming from “self-hate.”
The problem is that the self we hate isn’t totally defined. I have heard so many times, “I know I’m stereotypical in a lot of ways, but…” Why is there a “but”? What we see as resisting these clichés is only keeping them alive. I can see how a young gay man would be scared to come out and enter into a world in which acting too stereotypically will not only lead to bullying by others, but also a total dismissal from fellow gay men.
Ken says, “Women can be great role models, but we need gay male role models.” Perhaps all we need is open, honest discussions about being young and gay. So much emphasis is put on coming out and acceptance. Still, we cannot reasonably expect to be embraced as complex, layered, loving human beings when we reject each other so easily. Cole’s point that “all the gay community has in common is their sexuality, so the center of gay culture is sex” demonstrates a rejection of all that an authentic community can offer. The modern conception of a young gay community in New York City is disjointed, varied, and seemingly unnecessary as a support system, but also far more complex, layered, and filled with non-stereotypical qualities than most people, including the people within it, seem to acknowledge.
We all have this concept of “the other”: those flamers out there ruining it for the rest of us; but we're ruining it for ourselves. This internal judgment becomes external when we try to act cool for the straight guys by hating limp-wristed clichés as much as they do. We do ourselves a disservice when we continue to perpetuate gross stereotypes, even in attempts to distance ourselves from said stereotypes.
http://www.advocate.com/commentary/2012/12/10/why-do-gay-guys-hate-other-gay-guys
What shall we call it, Inverse Motivation, or transferred hostility...psychologists must have a word for it.
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Ben Reilly wrote:Here's Spencer:
The alt-right call that dipshit hair style a "fashy" (as in fascist).
Rich people of all races go to St. Marks.
Spencer is one helluva ugly little turd muncher, isn't he !!!
Makes me look like Michalangelo's David, by comparison..
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SEXY MAMA wrote:Ben Reilly wrote:
http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/12/hundreds-protest-white-nationalist-leader-richard-spencer.html
America belongs to the Red Indians! The rest are just Eastern settlers!
"RED INDIANS" !?!
That is so 1960s Hollywood, Sexy..
The proper terms now are either First People, First Nation (Canadian), or Native Americans..
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Or the many - many examples of our mega-fake faithful thumping their pulpits via their TV stations - anti ranting about the evil sinners of the world out to get those 'GOODLY CHRISTIANS'; and then get busted for most of those same TOP #10 worst sins they've preached against.Ben Reilly wrote:Original Quill wrote:Always remember, there are two tiers in the conservative movement: The idiots and the idiots who lead them.
Too true. Also worth noting is that Spencer once had a black girlfriend. You think maybe she done that poor boy wrong?
You see this so often -- the rabidly anti-gay Republican congressman caught with a gay prostitute. The guy who dedicates his career to finding pedophiles who turns out to have a huge collection of kiddie porn. The reformed skinhead who confesses he's always been attracted to Jewish women.
Surely this 'illusion of superior white male behavior' isn't just uniquely encapsulated within our borders of America ...would some of the very same ranting behavior be a personality trait over in jolly ole' England as well
Just say'n ...often the ones that rant the loudest against something 'PHOBIC' ...seem to be the very ones with a hidden persona that is driven to seek it out!
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Your not the sharpest knife in the box are you?
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nicko wrote:Your not the sharpest knife in the box are you?
Are you hurting, nicko?
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Original Quill wrote:nicko wrote:Your not the sharpest knife in the box are you?
Are you hurting, nicko?
Nooo, the has nothing to offer to the topic and isn't able to read & comprehend my post ...so that just leaves him with asinine/lame/immature insults to dribble around the community right after I post!
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I thought you had me on ignore? not that I care,
Ramble on sweetheart.
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This supremacist posted on forums and FB. Vile stuff, advocating violence. He was traced by the old bill. He's up in court. These extreme right wing types have no idea how similar they are in general ideology, to the mad Muslim mullahs who also advocate violence.
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/cambridge-extremist-shared-racist-views-12277465
http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/cambridge-extremist-shared-racist-views-12277465
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