Blind man has benefits cut

by Andy Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:37 pm

Because he didn't read the letter he couldn't read.
I hope May hangs her head in shame.
Callous tories. As ever.

Blind man has benefits cut for not replying to DWP letter that he couldn't read

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/blind-man-benefits-axed-after-9380033#ICID=Android_TMNewsApp_AppShare

by Victorismyhero Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:40 pm

mmm..one supposes that they MUST have been aware of his blindness....

SO, he should sue them under disability hate crime statues

and get a RNIB solicitor onto them....right up to te human rights court if necessary

by eddie Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:48 pm

How absolutely ridiculous! That's just bloody embarrassing.

by Andy Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:52 pm

From Vic's tone, it sounds like agrees with the decision to slash his benefit.

by eddie Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:54 pm

Handy Andy wrote:From Vic's tone, it sounds like agrees with the decision to slash his benefit.

How odd because it didn't to me.
I read his post though.

by Andy Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:02 pm

The guy is blind. He's had his mediocre benefits slashed.
How can he afford to sue a government department?. Using benefit?

by Victorismyhero Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:04 pm

Handy Andy wrote:From Vic's tone, it sounds like agrees with the decision to slash his benefit.

Shit stirring again HA...

your master got a hand up your arse again???

please...feel free to explian how you come to such an incredibly moronic conclusion from what I wrote there.

it will give an insight into the workings of your crazed mind, such as it is

by Victorismyhero Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:06 pm

Handy Andy wrote:The guy is blind. He's had his mediocre benefits slashed.
How can he afford to sue a government department?. Using benefit?

fuckin idiot

the RNIB has a pool of solicitors for just this kind of thing....plus AFAIK it doesnt cost to raise a disability discrimination case via the proper channels....

by Andy Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:08 pm

He is old blind and has a brain illness. His bro is his carer. They realistically cannot or wont have the will to take on the DWP.
He is just another bit of austerity cash raised by the tory government.

by Victorismyhero Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:09 pm

tell you what...why dont YOU do something about it, rather than sit there behind your keyboard, snivelling...
why dont YOU sponsor his legal challenge...or go trash the office of the DWP responsible or start a petition or something.

this is you lot all over

loads of gob...and BIG do nowts....

by eddie Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:10 pm

Handy Andy wrote:The guy is blind. He's had his mediocre benefits slashed.
How can he afford to sue a government department?. Using benefit?

He will be granted a solicitor.

You literally took Vic's words and made them into somthing else!

by Victorismyhero Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:11 pm

Handy Andy wrote:He is old blind and has a brain illness. His bro is his carer. They realistically cannot or wont have the will to take on the DWP.
He is just another bit of austerity cash raised by the tory government.

so his brother has managed to appeal once....you telling me he cant/isnt capable of contacting the RNIB and letting them do the donkey work?

by Victorismyhero Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:12 pm

eddie wrote:
Handy Andy wrote:The guy is blind. He's had his mediocre benefits slashed.
How can he afford to sue a government department?. Using benefit?

He will be granted a solicitor.

You literally took Vic's words and made them into somthing else!

Its what they do edds...

liars and twisters all.....

its called "spin" as embodied in that last labour govt

by Andy Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:18 pm

Or, far better and far easier, this nasty tory party could actually do the right thing for once and simply restore his benefit. Not difficult. Less than a Lord's daily breakfast allowance.
Tory ideology in action, unfortunately.

by Victorismyhero Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:23 pm

Handy Andy wrote:Or, far better and far easier, this nasty tory party could actually do the right thing for once and simply restore his benefit. Not difficult. Less than a Lord's daily breakfast allowance.
Tory ideology in action, unfortunately.

I dont doubt it...why dont you write em a polite letter asking them to "do the right thing" I'm sure that they will take all due notice of you....

on te other hand....they could contact the RNIB....and the disability discrimination people.....

by scrat Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:02 pm

Handy Andy wrote:He is old blind and has a brain illness. His bro is his carer. They realistically cannot or wont have the will to take on the DWP.
He is just another bit of austerity cash raised by the tory government.

And they're making the most vulnerable in society pay the price of the banking crisis through austerity, whilst at the same time giving tax relief on capital gains and corporation tax.

by Spindleshanks Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:10 am

His brother claims to be his carer so I don't quite understand why he didn't read the letter and make sure the man got to his interview.

by Tommy Monk Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:58 am

Spindleshanks wrote:His brother claims to be his carer so I don't quite understand why he didn't read the letter and make sure the man got to his interview.

Exactly.

by Syl Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:42 pm

I don't think his brother is responsible here, the man is 65 and probably confused by all the red tape and confusion involved when dealing with social services. He probably cares for his brother out of love, and if he doe get an allowance for this (and many carers don't) it would be a pittance.

It was up to the people involved in paying out the benefits to ensure that the man had received and understood the appropriate forms surely.
Knowing he was blind why didn't they phone and arrange a home visit, or arrange for the man to attend a meeting?

by Spindleshanks Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:54 pm

Syl wrote:I don't think his brother is responsible here, the man is 65 and probably confused by all the red tape and confusion involved when dealing with social services. He probably cares for his brother out of love, and if he doe get an allowance for this (and many carers don't) it would be a pittance.

It was up to the people involved in paying out the benefits to ensure that the man had received and understood the appropriate forms surely.
Knowing he was blind why didn't they phone and arrange a home visit, or arrange for the man to attend a meeting?

His brother claims to pay all his bills and looks after him.

How difficult would it have been to read a letter which gave an appointment date and time?

by Syl Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:19 pm

Spindleshanks wrote:
Syl wrote:I don't think his brother is responsible here, the man is 65 and probably confused by all the red tape and confusion involved when dealing with social services. He probably cares for his brother out of love, and if he doe get an allowance for this (and many carers don't) it would be a pittance.

It was up to the people involved in paying out the benefits to ensure that the man had received and understood the appropriate forms surely.
Knowing he was blind why didn't they phone and arrange a home visit, or arrange for the man to attend a meeting?

His brother claims to pay all his bills and looks after him.

How difficult would it have been to read a letter which gave an appointment date and time?

..........................................................................

Not being in his shoes I cant say.
I do know I paid my mums bills and looked after her for years even though she lived independently from me.
Trying to wade through the cock ups that social services made caused more bother than anything else.
I also know they can use the phone (just about) and arrange home visits....so knowing he was blind why didn't they do that?

by nicko Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:29 pm

Your thinking Social Services know what they'r doing, they are the most inept of any Government Dept.

by Spindleshanks Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:42 pm

Syl wrote:
Spindleshanks wrote:

His brother claims to pay all his bills and looks after him.

How difficult would it have been to read a letter which gave an appointment date and time?

..........................................................................

Not being in his shoes I cant say.
I do know I paid my mums bills and looked after her for years even though she lived independently from me.
Trying to wade through the cock ups that social services made caused more bother than anything else.
I also know they can use the phone (just about) and arrange home visits....so knowing he was blind why didn't they do that?

First off, not everyone has a phone or gives their number out if they do.

Secondly, sending a letter out with an appointment contained in it can hardly be classed as a cock up. It tends to be the official method of contacting people, not just benefits people, but hospitals etc all send appointments via the post.

by Syl Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:53 pm

Spindleshanks wrote:

First off, not everyone has a phone or gives their number out if they do.

Secondly, sending a letter out with an appointment contained in it can hardly be classed as a cock up. It tends to be the official method of contacting people, not just benefits people, but hospitals etc all send appointments via the post.

First off, I'm pretty sure that almost everyone with a disability has a phone as a lifeline, to contact or be contacted should an emergency arise.

Secondly, knowing the man is blind, surely a half wit, even one who works for social services, could understand that letter is not always the best way to make appointments if the person it concerns cant see it.

Lastly, in recent years every hospital appointment I have experience of always send an automated phone call to confirm the appointment near the time, why cant social services do the same in certain circumstances.

by Spindleshanks Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:11 pm

Syl wrote:
Spindleshanks wrote:

First off, not everyone has a phone or gives their number out if they do.

Secondly, sending a letter out with an appointment contained in it can hardly be classed as a cock up. It tends to be the official method of contacting people, not just benefits people, but hospitals etc all send appointments via the post.

First off, I'm pretty sure that almost everyone with a disability has a phone as a lifeline, to contact or be contacted should an emergency arise.

Secondly, knowing the man is blind, surely a half wit, even one who works for social services, could understand that letter is not always the best way to make appointments if the person it concerns cant see it.

Lastly, every hospital appointment I have experience of always send an automated phone call to confirm the appointment near the time, why cant social services do the same in certain circumstances.

A letter may well be the only way they have of contacting him, meaning even if he has a phone it doesn't mean they will have his number.

by Syl Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:15 pm

Spindleshanks wrote:
Syl wrote:

First off, I'm pretty sure that almost everyone with a disability has a phone as a lifeline, to contact or be contacted should an emergency arise.

Secondly, knowing the man is blind, surely a half wit, even one who works for social services, could understand that letter is not always the best way to make appointments if the person it concerns cant see it.

Lastly, every hospital appointment I have experience of always send an automated phone call to confirm the appointment near the time, why cant social services do the same in certain circumstances.

A letter may well be the only way they have of contacting him, meaning even if he has a phone it doesn't mean they will have his number.

True, they probably lost it. Rolling Eyes

by Spindleshanks Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:17 pm

Syl wrote:
Spindleshanks wrote:

A letter may well be the only way they have of contacting him, meaning even if he has a phone it doesn't mean they will have his number.
True, they probably lost it.

Or maybe they never had it in the first place.

by Syl Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:26 pm

Spindleshanks wrote:
Syl wrote:
True, they probably lost it.

Or maybe they never had it in the first place.

You are clutching at straws.
My knowledge of social services when they are dealing with a case they have all the relevant info, which would include not only your own phone number but also your official carers number.

by eddie Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:30 pm

Syl wrote:
Spindleshanks wrote:
Syl wrote:
True, they probably lost it.

Or maybe they never had it in the first place.

You are clutching at straws.
My knowledge of social services when they are dealing with a case they have all the relevant info, which would include not only your own phone number but also your official carers number.

And your next of kin and possibly a neighbour.

by Syl Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:39 pm

eddie wrote:
Syl wrote:

You are clutching at straws.
My knowledge of social services when they are dealing with a case they have all the relevant info, which would include not only your own phone number but also your official carers number.

And your next of kin and possibly a neighbour.

And all this is given when the person with the disability is first assessed before payments are given.
The DWP even after their error, instead of sorting out their blunder, have apparently told the mans brother to sort this out online.

by Spindleshanks Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:42 pm

Syl wrote:
Spindleshanks wrote:

Or maybe they never had it in the first place.

You are clutching at straws.
My knowledge of social services when they are dealing with a case they have all the relevant info, which would include not only your own phone number but also your official carers number.

Only if you give them that information.

by Syl Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:46 pm

Spindleshanks wrote:
Syl wrote:

You are clutching at straws.
My knowledge of social services when they are dealing with a case they have all the relevant info, which would include not only your own phone number but also your official carers number.

Only if you give them that information.

And apart from you, who is saying they didn't have the relevant information?

by Spindleshanks Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:48 pm

Syl wrote:
Spindleshanks wrote:

Only if you give them that information.

And apart from you, who is saying they didn't have the relevant information?

Can you be absolutely certain they did?

by Syl Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:52 pm

Spindleshanks wrote:
Syl wrote:

And apart from you, who is saying they didn't have the relevant information?

Can you be absolutely certain they did?

Not as certain as the undeniable truth that you are trolling....but 99% sure. Twisted Evil

by Spindleshanks Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:57 pm

Syl wrote:
Spindleshanks wrote:

Can you be absolutely certain they did?

Not as certain as the undeniable truth that you are trolling....but 99% sure.

Only 99%? So therefore you do have an element of doubt.

Thank you Razz

by eddie Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:01 pm

by Spindleshanks Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:25 pm

I think maybe you should read the comments at the bottom of the article.

I'm far from the only one who can't understand why his brother (his carer) didn't read the letter.

From the comments on the article:-

"I would imagine his carer visits regularly,if the letter stopping his benefits has been read presumably by someone for him then why wasn't the letter read asking him to go for assessment"?

by eddie Sat Dec 03, 2016 5:40 pm

Perhaps the letter was misplaced so no one knew about it?

by Miffs2 Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:20 pm

Lord F made the best suggestion, get an RNIB solicitor on it. Those letters are computer generated the DWP don't care he is blind. But, if his brother is his career he needs to be checking things like this. If his brother is unable to there are agencies that will do all the paper work for you and liaise with DWP. We all know the target driven cuts going on so we have to make sure we don't give those bastards at the DWP the chance to sanction us.

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