Believe it or not! Trump has no idea what the president does

by Ben Reilly Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:59 pm

During their private White House meeting on Thursday, Mr. Obama walked his successor through the duties of running the country, and Mr. Trump seemed surprised by the scope, said people familiar with the meeting. Trump aides were described by those people as unaware that the entire presidential staff working in the West Wing had to be replaced at the end of Mr. Obama’s term.

After meeting with Mr. Trump, the only person to be elected president without having held a government or military position, Mr. Obama realized the Republican needs more guidance. He plans to spend more time with his successor than presidents typically do, people familiar with the matter said.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/11/14/trump_reportedly_appeared_not_to_understand_scope_of_presidency_during_obama.html

He also is reported to be "overwhelmed" and wants to spend as much time in Trump Tower as possible:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/us/politics/trump-president.html

I know a lot of people say Trump won because people were tired of being called stupid for their criticisms of Obama and Clinton, but their election of Trump really just highlights how truly stupid they are.

by Original Quill Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:13 pm

I honestly think he'll resign. He had no idea what he was in store for. And...he didn't expect to win, that's the most poignant thing I'm hearing.

That's why Christie was replaced...the game suddenly got serious.

Who knows, with it no longer being frivolous chat on twitter, he might even return to being a Democrat. Would that blow up those fuckhead white-supremacists?

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:20 pm

I wonder if he ever thinks "OMG, what have I gotten into"

could he...if he decided
a) he couldnt do it and
b) there was no one else in his "cabinet" that could

call another election?

by Ben Reilly Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:22 pm

Lord Foul wrote:I wonder if he ever thinks "OMG, what have I gotten into"

could he...if he decided
a) he couldnt do it and
b) there was no one else in his "cabinet" that could

call another election?

Not how it works here -- we'd have Pence as president, which might be even worse.

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:28 pm

oh dear...I guess you are well screwed then.....

by Ben Reilly Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:39 pm

Lord Foul wrote:oh dear...I guess you are well screwed then.....

There's still some faint, Hail-Mary hope that the Electoral College does something unprecedented and just makes Clinton the president -- but that's very unrealistic. Realistically, we're going to have to fight Trump for four years. But! In the U.S. the people and the minority party can put up one hell of a fight against an unpopular administration.

It's also heartening that Trump will probably be on the phone with Obama quite a bit -- it sounds as though Obama finally made a positive impression on him. To be fair, most of the people who despise Obama have only paid attention to his detractors and worse, people who have flat-out lied about him.

by Victorismyhero Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:04 pm

TBH (and only time will tell of course) IF Trump is wise enough to realise he needs obama's help and guidance and takes on board the advice offered then both him and obama will rise immensely in my estimation.

It takes a reasonably good man to say "ok ...I'm lost ...help"
and likely an even better man as ex president to say "ok ...here IS the help" rather than saying "tough you went for it now deal with it"

by Ben Reilly Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:48 pm

Lord Foul wrote:TBH (and only time will tell of course) IF Trump is wise enough to realise he needs obama's help and guidance and takes on board the advice offered then both him and obama will rise immensely in my estimation.

It takes a reasonably good man to say "ok ...I'm lost ...help"
and likely an even better man as ex president to say "ok ...here IS the help" rather than saying "tough you went for it now deal with it"

Obama is all about the high road, it's how he got elected. Believe it or not, he actually cares more about the U.S. than about the Democratic Party.

by Ben Reilly Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:49 pm

And Trump supporters who keep insisting that "Americans (as a whole) are tired of the Obama way of doing things" need to ask why he won comfortably in both of his elections Smile

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:04 pm

Let's face it Ben, it's gonna be a bumpy ride and basically you and the rest of the world are fucked

by eddie Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:07 pm

There's nothing like a positive mental attitude. Rolling Eyes

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:11 pm

It's called facing facts and not pretending something is better than it is.

by eddie Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:20 pm

sassy wrote:It's called facing facts and not pretending something is better than it is.

You have to work with what you have or you end up just being sad, and you can't accomplish anything when you're sad.

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:23 pm

No way! If it's shit you fight like hell to change it and you never give up.

by eddie Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:25 pm

sassy wrote:No way! If it's shit you fight like hell to change it and you never give up.

That's fighting with what you have - fighting talk.
The first thing you said that I commented on, was defeatist.

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:27 pm

eddie wrote:
sassy wrote:No way! If it's shit you fight like hell to change it and you never give up.

That's fighting with what you have - fighting talk.
The first thing you said that I commented on, was defeatist.

No Eddie, it really wasn't, you can't fight unless you acknowledge why and what you are fighting and the magnitude of the problem. At the moment, the US and the world are fucked because the extreme right wing is gaining ground in many countries and hatred and racism are rising fast. If that isn't acknowledged we can't do anything about it.

by eddie Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:33 pm

Whatever. I know what I mean.

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:34 pm

That's good, it always helps Razz

by eddie Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:39 pm

sassy wrote:That's good, it always helps

You know I find it really does! Shocked

I don't feel so lonely as long as I am understanding myself.

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:40 pm

eddie wrote:
sassy wrote:That's good, it always helps

You know I find it really does! I don't feel so lonely as long as I am understanding myself.

by eddie Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:44 pm

Sassy that really cheered me up. What a jaunty and snazzy little tune!

by Guest Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:46 pm

Alma Cogan was a very underrated singer and died far too young.

by veya_victaous Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:09 am

it is not always defeatest to want to watch it burn Neutral

I mean I bought all these marshmallows and everything Suspect

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by Original Quill Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:40 am

eddie wrote:Sassy that really cheered me up. What a jaunty and snazzy little tune!

'Scuse me ladies. This isn't a trip to your analyst's couch. This fucker has the nuclear button.

You better get serious...real fast. What a Face

by Ben Reilly Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:27 am

Original Quill wrote:
eddie wrote:Sassy that really cheered me up. What a jaunty and snazzy little tune!

'Scuse me ladies. This isn't a trip to your analyst's couch. This fucker has the nuclear button.

You better get serious...real fast.

What the hell, man? The right-wingers' opposition to doing anything about climate change has already doomed the human race. We might as well have a few songs on the way out.

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