Homophobic attacks in UK rose 147% in three months after Brexit vote

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The number of homophobic attacks more than doubled in the three months after the Brexit vote, with toxicity fostered by the EU referendum debate spreading beyond race and religion, new figures suggest.

Hate crimes against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people increased 147% during July, August and September compared to the same period last year, according to the LGBT anti-violence charity Galop.

Statistics from the police have already documented a spike of hate crimes against ethnic minorities and foreign nationals. Few analysts predicted a rise in hate crime based on victims’ sexual orientation, however. Galop gave support to 187 LGBT people who had suffered hate crimes in the three months that followed the referendum vote, compared with 72 in the same period in 2015. The rise is proportionately higher than other hate crime rises in the wake of Brexit .

More than 3,000 allegations of hate crimes were made to UK police, largely in the form of harassment and threats, in the week before and the week after the 23 June referendum vote, a year-on-year increase of 42%.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/08/homophobic-attacks-double-after-brexit-vote

An element of the homophobes and the racists of the Leave voters on their victory lap no doubt. What other explanation is there?

It is about closing an open door to stop the huge uncontrollable flow in...


It is about being able to remove illegals quickly and easily without the eu sanctioned delaying tactics the illegals use that drags the process out for years and enormous expense...


Hopefully it will mean that the beggars and scroungers are also removed...

We'll see.

Don't you want to see these things happening...?

Tommy Monk wrote:Don't you want to see these things happening...?

I'm not a nationalist, race is not an issue for me.

So you want to see this country continue to be swamped by huge numbers of people that we just don't have the ability/capacity to cope with...?


Nhs and schools and other public services stretched beyond breaking point... roads and transport networks increasingly clogged... power (elec/gas) demands exceeding our capacity... air quality worsening with increasing pollution from the more vehicles... soaring rents and ever unaffordable housing... the resulting dire economic consequences...?


You care so little about the uk that you want your see it ruined..?


Ok...

Tommy Monk wrote:

So you want to see this country continue to be swamped by huge numbers of people that we just don't have the ability/capacity to cope with...?


Nhs and schools and other public services stretched beyond breaking point... roads and transport networks increasingly clogged... power (elec/gas) demands exceeding our capacity... air quality worsening with increasing pollution from the more vehicles... soaring rents and ever unaffordable housing... the resulting dire economic consequences...?


You care so little about the uk that you want your see it ruined..?


Ok...

I didn't say that there should be unfettered immigration - I said that race is not an issue for me.

Ziz wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:

So you want to see this country continue to be swamped by huge numbers of people that we just don't have the ability/capacity to cope with...?


Nhs and schools and other public services stretched beyond breaking point... roads and transport networks increasingly clogged... power (elec/gas) demands exceeding our capacity... air quality worsening with increasing pollution from the more vehicles... soaring rents and ever unaffordable housing... the resulting dire economic consequences...?


You care so little about the uk that you want your see it ruined..?


Ok...

I didn't say that there should be unfettered immigration - I said that race is not an issue for me.

So you want the uk to have power and control over immigration then...?


How do you expect that to happen when you want to stay in the eu...!?


And...

Tommy Monk wrote:

It is about closing an open door to stop the huge uncontrollable flow in...


It is about being able to remove illegals quickly and easily without the eu sanctioned delaying tactics the illegals use that drags the process out for years and enormous expense...


Hopefully it will mean that the beggars and scroungers are also removed...

So you want to see these things happening?

Tommy Monk wrote:

Ziz wrote:

I didn't say that there should be unfettered immigration - I said that race is not an issue for me.

So you want the uk to have power and control over immigration then...?


How do you expect that to happen when you want to stay in the eu...!?


And...

Tommy Monk wrote:

It is about closing an open door to stop the huge uncontrollable flow in...


It is about being able to remove illegals quickly and easily without the eu sanctioned delaying tactics the illegals use that drags the process out for years and enormous expense...


Hopefully it will mean that the beggars and scroungers are also removed...

So you want to see these things happening?

Free movement is two-way - it is in essence citizenship of larger political entity. I do not wish to end free movement between, say, England and Holland any more than I want to end free movement between England and Scotland or, for that matter, between Buckinghamshire and Yorkshire.

But in fact the majority of immigrants came/come from outside of the EU - the government could have restricted it any time they wished but chose not to - so don't hold your breath.

No... non eu people can also get entry under free movement rules... look up the rule and the wording and you will see what I mean!


And you didn't answer the questions...


Vast majority of people from UK only ever go abroad for a couple of weeks holiday every year...


The rest of those who are going to France or Spain etc to live are overwhelmingly wealthy retirees who are totally self sufficient and pumping money into the local economies and also are not going you have children who then put a cost burden onto the local economies in school places etc... these people are not taking local jobs or taking money out of those countries...


The same cannot be said for the overwhelming vast majority of people who come to uk... they come with nothing, take local jobs or take benefits, (many take jobs and start taking benefits too!)... they either have kids already or start having kids once here at huge extra cost to us in nhs/school places... they send money out of the country...!


Many have no intention of working and just want you rinse out our benefits system and/or do crime.


You just said you don't want unfettered immigration... plus you said it's not about race for you... but then you said non eu immigration should be tightly curbed... the non eu bring the vast majority of non white that is... which is about race isn't it..!?


Make you'd mind up!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:

No... non eu people can also get entry under free movement rules...

Only if they hold EU citizenship, we are outside of Schengen. But in any event the majority came from outside the EU - and that will continue.

Ziz wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:

No... non eu people can also get entry under free movement rules...

Only if they hold EU citizenship, we are outside of Schengen. But in any event the majority came from outside the EU  - and that will continue.

No... non eu citizens can use free movement rules to get into eu.

I will post this again as I added a large amount to me earlier post...




No... non eu people can also get entry under free movement rules... look up the rule and the wording and you will see what I mean!


And you didn't answer the questions...


Vast majority of people from UK only ever go abroad for a couple of weeks holiday every year...


The rest of those who are going to France or Spain etc to live are overwhelmingly wealthy retirees who are totally self sufficient and pumping money into the local economies and also are not going you have children who then put a cost burden onto the local economies in school places etc... these people are not taking local jobs or taking money out of those countries...


The same cannot be said for the overwhelming vast majority of people who come to uk... they come with nothing, take local jobs or take benefits, (many take jobs and start taking benefits too!)... they either have kids already or start having kids once here at huge extra cost to us in nhs/school places... they send money out of the country...!


Many have no intention of working and just want you rinse out our benefits system and/or do crime.


You just said you don't want unfettered immigration... plus you said it's not about race for you... but then you said non eu immigration should be tightly curbed... the non eu bring the vast majority of non white that is... which is about race isn't it..!?


Make you'd mind up!!!

Ziz wrote:

Major wrote:


White English/Britz

I've known many pongoes but never heard that term - is it in common usage?

STORMEE'S a fraud...

He should be reported to one of those groups that investigate suspicious military service claims, by rights..

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Ziz wrote:

I've known many pongoes but never heard that term - is it in common usage?

STORMEE'S a fraud...

He should be reported to one of those groups that investigate suspicious military service claims, by rights..

Who is Stormee?

Tommy Monk wrote:

Ziz wrote:

Only if they hold EU citizenship, we are outside of Schengen. But in any event the majority came from outside the EU  - and that will continue.

No... non eu citizens can use free movement rules to get into eu.

Not into the UK - we are not part of Schengan - do keep up.

Ziz wrote:

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:



STORMEE'S a fraud...

He should be reported to one of those groups that investigate suspicious military service claims, by rights..

Who is Stormee?

That was 'Major's previous name here, before he changed it a few months ago..

Tommy Monk wrote:
You just said you don't want unfettered immigration... plus you said it's not about race for you... but then you said non eu immigration should be tightly curbed... the non eu bring the vast majority of non white that is... which is about race isn't it..!?

I generally don't respond to rants no matter how many times they are posted - but fabrications needs correcting.

I did not say "non eu immigration should be tightly curbed" - I said,  "the government could have restricted it any time they wished but chose not to - so don't hold your breath".

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Ziz wrote:

Who is Stormee?

That was 'Major's previous name here, before he changed it a few months ago..

Ah - so you believe he's not ex-army - well, not British army anyway.

Ziz wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


No... non eu citizens can use free movement rules to get into eu.

Not into the UK - we are not part of Schengan - do keep up.

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t16477-the-truth-about-the-eu-free-movement-rules-and-why-non-eu-immigration-is-so-high



Do try to know what you are talking about...

Tommy Monk wrote:

Ziz wrote:

Not into the UK - we are not part of Schengan - do keep up.

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t16477-the-truth-about-the-eu-free-movement-rules-and-why-non-eu-immigration-is-so-high



Do try to know what you are talking about...

You are wrong - we maintain border controls because we are not part of Schengan. This means that people without an EU passport/ID card do not have automatic right of entry.

You may find the Government's own website educational:

2. Before you leave for the UK
Check what documents you’ll need to enter the UK.

You’re from an EEA country or Switzerland
You can enter the UK with either a valid passport or a national identity card issued by a EEA country. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You’re not from an EEA country
You must have a valid passport to enter the UK. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You may also need a visa, depending on which country you’re from.

Check if you need a visa to enter the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control/before-you-leave-for-the-uk

veya_victaous wrote:
that's obvious Irn
people like Tommy felt their fould minds were common after the successful fear campaign to end the EU and any economic threat it may have become to the existing world powers.

You see they thought that Most Brits were as mindlessly hatefilled as them, so thought they could exist without their gags. Of course decent people are appalled by the content of such individuals charater

MY first thoughts on seeing this story...

Tommy and Major have been busy boys since the referendum,  haven't they  !

Ziz wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:
You just said you don't want unfettered immigration... plus you said it's not about race for you... but then you said non eu immigration should be tightly curbed... the non eu bring the vast majority of non white that is... which is about race isn't it..!?

I generally don't respond to rants no matter how many times they are posted - but fabrications needs correcting.

I did not say "non eu immigration should be tightly curbed" - I said,  "the government could have restricted it any time they wished but chose not to - so don't hold your breath".

You said you don't want unfettered immigration... them you made the supporting claim for eu free movement... and the subsequent point about the large numbers arriving from outside the EU... suggesting that you think these non eu numbers should be more tightly restricted...


Otherwise you are contradicting your own claim that you don't want unfettered immigration...


So unfettered immigration from white eu is ok... but non white non eu unfettered is not... while you also said it's not about race for you...?


Make your mind up...!

Tommy Monk wrote:

Ziz wrote:
I generally don't respond to rants no matter how many times they are posted - but fabrications needs correcting.

I did not say "non eu immigration should be tightly curbed" - I said,  "the government could have restricted it any time they wished but chose not to - so don't hold your breath".

You said you don't want unfettered immigration... them you made the supporting claim for eu free movement... and the subsequent point about the large numbers arriving from outside the EU... suggesting that you think these non eu numbers should be more tightly restricted...


Otherwise you are contradicting your own claim that you don't want unfettered immigration...


So unfettered immigration from white eu is ok... but non white non eu unfettered is not... while you also said it's not about race for you...?


Make your mind up...!

I don't consider free movement within a political entity to be immigration. Thus the residents of Buckinghamshire can travel without hindrance to Yorkshire and vice versa - as I intimated earlier. I apologise for confusing you.

Ziz wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


http://www.newsfixboard.com/t16477-the-truth-about-the-eu-free-movement-rules-and-why-non-eu-immigration-is-so-high



Do try to know what you are talking about...

You are wrong - we maintain border controls because we are not part of Schengan. This means that people without an EU passport/ID card do not have automatic right of entry.

You may find the Government's own website educational:

2. Before you leave for the UK
Check what documents you’ll need to enter the UK.

You’re from an EEA country or Switzerland
You can enter the UK with either a valid passport or a national identity card issued by a EEA country. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You’re not from an EEA country
You must have a valid passport to enter the UK. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You may also need a visa, depending on which country you’re from.

Check if you need a visa to enter the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control/before-you-leave-for-the-uk

I'm not talking about 'Schengen'...


Non eu nationals can come here and stay under eu free movement rules...


"...It gives EEA citizens the right of free movement and residence across the European Economic Area, as long as they are not an undue burden on the country of residence and have comprehensive health insurance.[1] This right also extends to close family members that are not EEA citizens.

Tommy Monk wrote:I'm not talking about 'Schengen'...


Non eu nationals can come here and stay under eu free movement rules...


"...It gives EEA citizens the right of free movement and residence across the European Economic Area, as long as they are not an undue burden on the country of residence and have comprehensive health insurance.[1] This right also extends to close family members that are not EEA citizens.

The position is as I sated earlier - not unless they have an EU passport or ID card in order to enter the UK, as the UK government makes clear here:

2. Before you leave for the UK
Check what documents you’ll need to enter the UK.

You’re from an EEA country or Switzerland
You can enter the UK with either a valid passport or a national identity card issued by a EEA country. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You’re not from an EEA country
You must have a valid passport to enter the UK. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You may also need a visa, depending on which country you’re from.

Check if you need a visa to enter the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control/before-you-leave-for-the-uk

This right also extends to close family members that are not EEA citizens.

http://www.newsfixboard.com/t16477-the-truth-about-the-eu-free-movement-rules-and-why-non-eu-immigration-is-so-high

Tommy Monk wrote:


This right also extends to close family members that are not EEA citizens.

But any rights cannot be exercised unless they hold an EU passport or ID card in order to enter the UK, as the UK government makes clear here:

2. Before you leave for the UK
Check what documents you’ll need to enter the UK.

You’re from an EEA country or Switzerland
You can enter the UK with either a valid passport or a national identity card issued by a EEA country. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You’re not from an EEA country
You must have a valid passport to enter the UK. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You may also need a visa, depending on which country you’re from.

Check if you need a visa to enter the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control/before-you-leave-for-the-uk

Ziz wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


This right also extends to close family members that are not EEA citizens.

But any rights cannot be exercised unless they hold an EU passport or ID card in order to enter the UK, as the UK government makes clear here:

2. Before you leave for the UK
Check what documents you’ll need to enter the UK.

You’re from an EEA country or Switzerland
You can enter the UK with either a valid passport or a national identity card issued by a EEA country. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You’re not from an EEA country
You must have a valid passport to enter the UK. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You may also need a visa, depending on which country you’re from.

Check if you need a visa to enter the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control/before-you-leave-for-the-uk

Wrong... they can arrive here under their own non eu passport and then claim to stay as a close family member of another who is here as an eu citizen.




And to your earlier comment about not considering anyone an immigrant if they are part of a nation that is part of the political eu entity... I do consider any foreign national who arrives here as an immigrant!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:

Ziz wrote:

But any rights cannot be exercised unless they hold an EU passport or ID card in order to enter the UK, as the UK government makes clear here:

2. Before you leave for the UK
Check what documents you’ll need to enter the UK.

You’re from an EEA country or Switzerland
You can enter the UK with either a valid passport or a national identity card issued by a EEA country. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You’re not from an EEA country
You must have a valid passport to enter the UK. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You may also need a visa, depending on which country you’re from.

Check if you need a visa to enter the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control/before-you-leave-for-the-uk

Wrong... they can arrive here under their own non eu passport and then claim to stay as a close family member of another who is here as an eu citizen.

Such a claim would be need to be considered by the UK authorities - they have no automatic right of entry as you assert.

Tommy Monk wrote:And to your earlier comment about not considering anyone an immigrant if they are part of a nation that is part of the political eu entity... I do consider any foreign national who arrives here as an immigrant!!!

Thank you - I will bear that in mind.

Ziz wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


This right also extends to close family members that are not EEA citizens.

But any rights cannot be exercised unless they hold an EU passport or ID card in order to enter the UK, as the UK government makes clear here:

2. Before you leave for the UK
Check what documents you’ll need to enter the UK.

You’re from an EEA country or Switzerland
You can enter the UK with either a valid passport or a national identity card issued by a EEA country. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You’re not from an EEA country
You must have a valid passport to enter the UK. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You may also need a visa, depending on which country you’re from.

Check if you need a visa to enter the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control/before-you-leave-for-the-uk

Wrong... they can arrive here under their own non eu passport and then claim to stay as a close family member of another who is here as an eu citizen.




And to your earlier comment about not considering anyone an immigrant if they are part of a nation that is part of the political eu entity... I do consider any foreign national who arrives here as an immigrant!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:

Ziz wrote:

But any rights cannot be exercised unless they hold an EU passport or ID card in order to enter the UK, as the UK government makes clear here:

2. Before you leave for the UK
Check what documents you’ll need to enter the UK.

You’re from an EEA country or Switzerland
You can enter the UK with either a valid passport or a national identity card issued by a EEA country. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You’re not from an EEA country
You must have a valid passport to enter the UK. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You may also need a visa, depending on which country you’re from.

Check if you need a visa to enter the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control/before-you-leave-for-the-uk

Wrong... they can arrive here under their own non eu passport and then claim to stay as a close family member of another who is here as an eu citizen.




And to your earlier comment about not considering anyone an immigrant if they are part of a nation that is part of the political eu entity... I do consider any foreign national who arrives here as an immigrant!!!

I've already replied to this post - spamming achieves nothing.

From your link...


You’re not from an EEA country

You must have a valid passport to enter the UK.

Tommy Monk wrote:
From your link...


You’re not from an EEA country

You must have a valid passport to enter the UK.

More fully:

You’re not from an EEA country
You must have a valid passport to enter the UK. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You may also need a visa, depending on which country you’re from.

Check if you need a visa to enter the UK.

Then they can arrive here under their own non eu passport and then claim to stay as a close family member of another who is here as an eu citizen... as I've already been saying!!!


Under the free movement rules I posted earlier...



"...It gives EEA citizens the right of free movement and residence across the European Economic Area, as long as they are not an undue burden on the country of residence and have comprehensive health insurance.[1] This right also extends to close family members that are not EEA citizens."

Tommy Monk wrote:

Then they can arrive here under their own non eu passport and then claim to stay as a close family member of another who is here as an eu citizen... as I've already been saying!!!


Under the free movement rules I posted earlier...



"...It gives EEA citizens the right of free movement and residence across the European Economic Area, as long as they are not an undue burden on the country of residence and have comprehensive health insurance.[1] This right also extends to close family members that are not EEA citizens."

Such a claim would be need to be considered by the UK authorities - they have no automatic right of entry as you assert.

Tommy Monk wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/its-time-to-shoot-down-the-post-brexit-hate-crime-hysteria/18874#.WAIASSSzBrp

Excellent article!!!

Here's another good article...


http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/08/the-real-hate-crime-scandal/

Ziz wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:

Then they can arrive here under their own non eu passport and then claim to stay as a close family member of another who is here as an eu citizen... as I've already been saying!!!


Under the free movement rules I posted earlier...



"...It gives EEA citizens the right of free movement and residence across the European Economic Area, as long as they are not an undue burden on the country of residence and have comprehensive health insurance.[1] This right also extends to close family members that are not EEA citizens."

Such a claim would be need to be considered by the UK authorities - they have no automatic right of entry as you assert.

They can arrive under their own steam... and under their own non eu passport... or even under forged or fake documents... once here they can then claim the free movement rules right to stay as a family member of someone who is already here!

Tommy Monk wrote:

Ziz wrote:

Such a claim would be need to be considered by the UK authorities - they have no automatic right of entry as you assert.

They can arrive under their own steam... and under their own non eu passport... or even under forged or fake documents... once here they can then claim the free movement rules right to stay as a family member of someone who is already here!

They can claim what they please - but all claims are considered by the UK authorities - they have no automatic right of entry as you assert.

Read the bloody eu rule that is right in front of you!!!

Read the bloody eu rule that is right in front of you!!!



This bit is the open door to them...



"This right also extends to close family members that are not EEA citizens."

Tommy Monk wrote:
Read the bloody eu rule that is right in front of you!!!

The EU rule is qualified by the following:

2. Before you leave for the UK
Check what documents you’ll need to enter the UK.

You’re from an EEA country or Switzerland
You can enter the UK with either a valid passport or a national identity card issued by a EEA country. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You’re not from an EEA country
You must have a valid passport to enter the UK. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You may also need a visa, depending on which country you’re from.

Check if you need a visa to enter the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control/before-you-leave-for-the-uk[/quote]

Tommy Monk wrote:This bit is the open door to them...


"This right also extends to close family members that are not EEA citizens."

Such a claim would be need to be considered by the UK authorities - they have no automatic right of entry as you assert.

Ziz wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:
Read the bloody eu rule that is right in front of you!!!

The EU rule is qualified by the following:

2. Before you leave for the UK
Check what documents you’ll need to enter the UK.

You’re from an EEA country or Switzerland
You can enter the UK with either a valid passport or a national identity card issued by a EEA country. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You’re not from an EEA country
You must have a valid passport to enter the UK. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You may also need a visa, depending on which country you’re from.

Check if you need a visa to enter the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control/before-you-leave-for-the-uk

No.. I have posted the eu free movement rules... you are just posting the official requirement for entering into uk through uk ports...


Here is a scenario... an African man turns up in southern Europe... is given eu citizenship... uses this to get into uk... then his mum/dad/brothers/sisters/wives/children/aunts/uncles and cousins/neices/nephews/grand parents etc can all turn up here in uk on their non eu passports... and then exercise their right to stay and live here under free movement rights that extend to them under the free movement rules that state that...


"This right also extends to close family members that are not EEA citizens."

I don't care what you've posted - the position is as I, and the UK government, have stated.

You have only posted the entry requirements into the UK...


I have posted the free movement rules that we are bound by as eu law...





"...It gives EEA citizens the right of free movement and residence across the European Economic Area, as long as they are not an undue burden on the country of residence and have comprehensive health insurance.[1] This right also extends to close family members that are not EEA citizens."

Tommy Monk wrote:

You have only posted the entry requirements into the UK...


I have posted the free movement rules that we are bound by as eu law...





"...It gives EEA citizens the right of free movement and residence across the European Economic Area, as long as they are not an undue burden on the country of residence and have comprehensive health insurance.[1] This right also extends to close family members that are not EEA citizens."

Well, strictly speaking, you are citing EEA rules - the EU and the EEA are not the same thing - which in turn raises interesting issues re the referendum, but that's by that's by.

The fact remains that the entry requirements to the UK are what matter - if you cannot get in then you cannot exercise any rights - and entry is determined by the UK, as detailed here:



If you’re from an EEA country or Switzerland
You can enter the UK with either a valid passport or a national identity card issued by a EEA country. It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

If you’re not from an EEA country
You must have a valid passport to enter the UK.It must be valid for the whole of your stay.

You may also need a visa, depending on which country you’re from.

Check if you need a visa to enter the UK.

https://www.gov.uk/uk-border-control/before-you-leave-for-the-uk

You're just saying entry requirements again... once they are in they can claim free movement rights as an extension to them as being close family member of someone else already here!!!


The the EEA is the European Economic Area and is the big part of the eu... the eu that we voted to leave...


We are not going to stay inside anything that means we are subject to eu rules.

Tommy Monk wrote:You're just saying entry requirements again... once they are in they can claim free movement rights as an extension to them as being close family member of someone else already here!!!


The the EEA is the European Economic Area and is the big part of the eu... the eu that we voted to leave...


We are not going to stay inside anything that means we are subject to eu rules.

I've exhausted enough time on you regarding this - you are wrong, but I'm content for you to claim otherwise.

And if anything the EU is within the EEA and not, as you claim, the other way round.    

Here's a map to help you out:



And regarding the EEA, was it mentioned on the ballot paper? How gullible the Sunderland massive truly are.