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Post by Irn Bru Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:56 am

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The number of homophobic attacks more than doubled in the three months after the Brexit vote, with toxicity fostered by the EU referendum debate spreading beyond race and religion, new figures suggest.

Hate crimes against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people increased 147% during July, August and September compared to the same period last year, according to the LGBT anti-violence charity Galop.

Statistics from the police have already documented a spike of hate crimes against ethnic minorities and foreign nationals. Few analysts predicted a rise in hate crime based on victims’ sexual orientation, however. Galop gave support to 187 LGBT people who had suffered hate crimes in the three months that followed the referendum vote, compared with 72 in the same period in 2015. The rise is proportionately higher than other hate crime rises in the wake of Brexit .

More than 3,000 allegations of hate crimes were made to UK police, largely in the form of harassment and threats, in the week before and the week after the 23 June referendum vote, a year-on-year increase of 42%.


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/08/homophobic-attacks-double-after-brexit-vote

An element of the homophobes and the racists of the Leave voters on their victory lap no doubt. What other explanation is there?
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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:42 pm


I am not wrong... you are posting entry requirements into the UK... and yes... to get in to uk through uk air/sea ports or through channel tunnel then you would need to show a passport or eu ID card...


I'm talking about what happens AFTER some people arrive... non eu arrivals can claim eu free movement status and rights to stay etc if they say they are a close family member of someone who is already here and an eu citizen...


That is what the eu law says!!!


Read it and try using some thought...






You cannot be in the EEA and not have eu control over your country and subsequently free movement...


We voted to leave the eu and restore total control and sovereignty from them... and this means removing ourselves from free movement...


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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:48 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:
I am not wrong... you are posting entry requirements into the UK... and yes... to get in to uk through uk air/sea ports or through channel tunnel then you would need to show a passport or eu ID card...


I'm talking about what happens AFTER some people arrive... non eu arrivals can claim eu free movement status and rights to stay etc if they say they are a close family member of someone who is already here and an eu citizen...


That is what the eu law says!!!


Read it and try using some thought...






You cannot be in the EEA and not have eu control over your country and subsequently free movement...


We voted to leave the eu and restore total control and sovereignty from them... and this means removing ourselves from free movement...



We voted to leave the EU - nothing more. Watch this space.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:10 pm

Don't tell me what you think I believed or voted for...


I know exactly what I voted for!!!
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:14 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Don't tell me what you think I believed or voted for...


I know exactly what I voted for!!!

Yes , of course you did. Homophobic attacks in UK rose 147% in three months after Brexit vote - Page 3 Empathy2

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:17 pm

You don't leave the eu if you stay in it...


We voted to leave!!!


And I know exactly what I voted for!!!
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:18 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:You don't leave the eu if you stay in it...


We voted to leave!!!


And I know exactly what I voted for!!!

Yes, of course you did. Homophobic attacks in UK rose 147% in three months after Brexit vote - Page 3 Empathy2

If 2 weeks is a long time in politics then 2 years is an eternity - watch this space.


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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:21 pm



I think it was the Remainians who don't know what they were voting for...


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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:22 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

I think it was the Remainians who don't know what they were voting for...



The status quo is pretty knowable - I think that's why it's called the status quo. Laughing

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:56 pm

The status quo is continue to be bent over by the eu... ever increasing eu control over our country... and the ever diminishing democracy here in the UK...


Show me where any of this has ever been voted for and consented to by the British people...?


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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:00 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:The status quo is continue to be bent over by the eu... ever increasing eu control over our country... and the ever diminishing democracy here in the UK...


Show me where any of this has ever been voted for and consented to by the British people...?



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Post by nicko Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:04 pm

Blame Bliar@Brown
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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:04 pm

The British people have never given the consent for any powers/sovereignty/control to be handed to the eu.


In fact... it was in 1975 when the people were lied to...


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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:05 pm

nicko wrote:Blame Bliar@Brown
Thatcher gave consent to the EU, not Blair or Brown.

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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:06 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:The British people have never given the consent for any powers/sovereignty/control to be handed to the eu.


In fact... it was in 1975 when the people were lied to...



It was the EEC then - in fact the "lie" as you see it was in 1987.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:46 pm



It is the European communities act 1972 that gives supremacy over the UK Parliament to the eu... which was pushed through parliament without the consent of the british people... and which must ultimately be repealed to restore uk parliamentary sovereignty and supremacy of uk law/rule here in the UK.


And during the vote in 1975 it was promised that there wasn't/wouldn't be any handing over of power to the EEC by being a part of it... it was promised that this was just a simple trade arrangement based around coal and steel.


Margaret Thatcher was famously against the proposed creation of the EU that was coming down the tracks, which meant the setting up of the EU commission rulers and the eu parliament, and the handing over of even more powers and controls of the uk to them... she spoke very strongly against it in her famous 'No! No! No!' speech in parliament.


She was then ousted from her position as prime minister by the traitors and John major took over... he was the one who signed the maastricht treaty that created the actual eu framework... it was signed in the face of opposition from other MPs at the time...


"...The rebellion (as Major later complained in his memoirs) had the support of the former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and Norman Tebbit. Thatcher declared in a speech in the House of Lords that she 'could never have signed that Treaty'..."


The British people have never voted in favour of handing over any control over the UK to the EEC or the EU...!!!


The uk parliament and those who are elected by the British people, are the custodians of our democracy... but they are only there to enact what the majority of the electorate wants... and are not in the position of giving any of our sovereignty away as it is not theirs to give away!!!


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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:53 pm

Single European Act

The Single European Act  (SEA) 1987 amended the Treaty of Rome. Its aim was to create a single internal market, which had been proving difficult under the existing Treaties. The SEA replaced many unanimous decision-making processes with Qualified Majority Voting (QMV), in order to facilitate the adoption of a raft of EU legislation by the end of 1992.

(HM Government)


Margaret Hilda Thatcher, Baroness Thatcher, LG, OM, PC, FRS, FRIC was a British stateswoman who was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1979 to 1990 and the Leader of the Conservative Party from 1975 to 1990.


Yawn!


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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:10 pm



What's your point...?
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:24 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:

What's your point...?

No Single European Act = no Single Market = no freedom of movement...

...blame the peado enabler. Homophobic attacks in UK rose 147% in three months after Brexit vote - Page 3 77526

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:16 pm



The single market is still developing

The Single European Act, the first major treaty amendment in 1986, set a deadline for completing the internal market by 31 December 1992.

Although a lot was achieved between 1986 and 1992, the single market was never completed as such. In reality it’s considered an ongoing project. One of the European Commission’s objectives at the moment is “completing the internal market in products and services”.


And...

Freedom of movement and residence for persons in the EU is the cornerstone of Union citizenship, which was established by the Treaty of Maastricht in 1992.


And...


Citizenship of the European Union was introduced by the Maastricht Treaty, which was signed in 1992, and has been in force since 1993. European Union citizenship is subsidiary to national citizenship and affords rights such as the right to vote in European elections, the right to free movement, settlement and employment across the EU...

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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:25 pm

Free movement flows from the....

Single European Act

The Single European Act  (SEA) 1987 amended the Treaty of Rome. Its aim was to create a single internal market, which had been proving difficult under the existing Treaties. The SEA replaced many unanimous decision-making processes with Qualified Majority Voting (QMV), in order to facilitate the adoption of a raft of EU legislation by the end of 1992.

(HM Government)


....blame the peado enabler.

Community was not of Margaret Thatcher's own creation, she was an enthusiastic supporter of what came to be known as the Single Market Programme. The pragmatism in the European policy of her government was shown in her willingness to sign the Single European Act (SEA) in 1985 which expedited the necessary legislative programme to eliminate barriers to trade through arrangements such as qualified majority voting in the Council of Ministers


If you don't agree with HM Government's version of events then tell them about it.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:48 pm




Thatcher was in favour of trade... easier/cheaper/better trade... that is what the single European Act purported to enable...


But like everything eec/eu.. it was a smokescreen to enable more mission creep power grabbing and the establishment of the EU fascist dictatorship at the cost of national democracy!!!


The SEA gave the EEC the power to establish itself with the rights to start voting for itself to expand and grow itself into the power grabbing dictatorship that became the EU... and was established in 1993 under the maastricht treaty.


Thatcher agreed to better trade... then when she saw what was really going on she was vehemently against it!!!


Re: the famous 'No! No! No!' Speech...


And you are totally wrong on the origins of free movement too...



The Treaty of Paris (1951)[4] establishing the European Coal and Steel Community established a right to free movement for workers in these industries and the Treaty of Rome (1957)[5] provided a right for the free movement of workers within the European Economic Community. The Directive 2004/38/EC on the right to move and reside freely assembles the different aspects of the right of movement in one document, replacing inter alia the directive 1968/360/EEC. It also clarifies procedural issues, and it strengthens the rights of family members of European citizens using the freedom of movement. According to the official site of the European Parliament, the explanation of the freedom of workers goes as follows:

Freedom of movement and residence for persons in the EU is the cornerstone of Union citizenship, which was established by the Treaty of Maastricht in 1992. Its practical implementation in EU law, however, has not been straightforward. It first involved the gradual phasing out, of internal borders under the Schengen agreements, initially in just a handful of Member States. Today, the provisions governing the free movement of persons are laid down in Directive 2004/38/EC on the right of EU citizens and their family members to move and reside freely within the territory of the Member States. However, the implementation of this directive continues to face many obstacles.



But I don't expect a leftie to know what they are talking about or to tell the truth...!


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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:54 pm

The government wrote it, not me  - but I wouldn't choose to trust governments either, especially this one.  Enjoy your Brexit "victory" - I certainly am. Homophobic attacks in UK rose 147% in three months after Brexit vote - Page 3 34418

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:08 am




As I said... the SEA was presented as a way of enabling better trade... but what it really was was a way to enable the EEC to recreate itself as the EU...


And this EU is what the maastricht treaty created in 1992/3...


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Post by Guest Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:11 am

Tommy Monk wrote:


As I said... the SEA was presented as a way of enabling better trade... but what it really was was a way to enable the EEC to recreate itself as the EU...


And this EU is what the maastricht treaty created in 1992/3...



Take it up with the Government - I'm happy with their version of events.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:24 am

No... I'm taking up your claims with you...


You've been talking shite throughout this thread...


And you have been proved to be doing so at every turn!!!


But I don't really expect a leftie to know what they are talking about... or to be telling the truth!!!


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Post by Irn Bru Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:45 am

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Ziz wrote:The "hate-crime hysteria" is being stirred up in preparation for a crackdown on the far-right should it be required.. The controlling class is worried that when they cannot deliver on Brexit there may be discontent and unrest - and that threatens profit.
yet it is mainly the leftists that go on looting sprees when they dont get their own way

I'm sure you will find that the vast amount of looting in this country was carried out by the RW variety looting our nations finances and businesses with hiding their cash abroad in tax havens and those evading the tax man from what the government expected them to pay.

How many people lost their jobs because the owner of BHS looted the business and the pension pots of the emplyeees - thousands wasn't it? And to think that David Cameron gave him a job as an adviser to his government on ways to save money.

You couldn't make it up.
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