Wheelchair Woman Gang Raped

Sweden, the story goes, used to be very peaceful, very safe, very blond. Then it started letting in darker-skinned people. Soon there were news reports of attacks on Swedes. Now, Sweden records the highest incidence of rape in the world.

The Sweden story has become absolutely viral. You’ve probably read a version in a Facebook post, or heard it in a speech or debate. It is the argument-ender of the intolerant: To make the case against refugees, or immigration, or “Islam,” you recount a couple of stories about refugee-camp horrors, some random anecdotes of sex crimes involving brown people in various countries, and then drop the Sweden story.

Behind it you’ll find the resurrection of an old, deadly appeal to fear – that people of certain skin colours are natural-born predators who threaten white women. It’s a version of lynch-mob logic that happens to appeal to the liberal and tolerant as much as the hateful and intolerant.


And it falls apart as soon as you speak to anyone knowledgeable in Sweden.

“What we’re hearing is a very, very extreme exaggeration based on a few isolated events, and the claim that it’s related to immigration is more or less not true at all,” says Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminologist at Stockholm University who has devoted his career to the study of criminality, ethnicity and age.

Sweden does indeed have far more reported cases of sexual assault than any other country. But it’s not because Swedes – of any colour – are very criminal. It’s because they’re very feminist. In 2005, Sweden’s Social Democratic government introduced a new sex-crime law with the world’s most expansive definition of rape.

Imagine, for example, if your boss rubbed against you in an unwanted way at work once a week for a year. In Canada, this would potentially be a case of sexual assault. Under Germany’s more limited laws, it would be zero cases. In Sweden, it would be tallied as 52 separate cases of rape. If you engaged in a half-dozen sex acts with your spouse, then later you felt you had not given consent, in Sweden that would be classified as six cases of rape.

The marked increase in rape cases during the 2000s is almost entirely a reflection of Sweden’s deep public interest in sexual equality and the rights of women, not of attacks by newcomers.

But aren’t refugees and immigrants responsible for a greater share of Sweden’s sexual assaults?

In a sense. Statistics show that the foreign-born in Sweden, as in most European countries, do have a higher rate of criminal charges than the native-born, in everything from shoplifting to murder (though not enough to affect the crime rate by more than a tiny margin). The opposite is true in North America, where immigrants have lower-than-average crime rates.

Why the difference? Because people who go to Sweden are poorer, and crime rates are mostly a product not of ethnicity but of class. In a 2013 analysis of 63,000 Swedish residents, Prof. Sarnecki and his colleagues found that 75 per cent of the difference in foreign-born crime is accounted for by income and neighbourhood, both indicators of poverty. Among the Swedish-born children of immigrants, the crime rate falls in half (and is almost entirely concentrated in lesser property crimes) and is 100-per-cent attributable to class – they are no more likely to commit crimes, including rape, than ethnic Swedes of the same family income.

What also stands out is that almost all the victims of these crimes – especially sex crimes – are also foreign-born. But for a handful of headline-grabbing atrocities, it isn’t a case of swarthy men preying on white women, but of Sweden’s system turning refugees into victims of crime.

Tommy Monk wrote:Left wing waffle...

Tommy Monk wrote:Because your statement is ambiguous and your list of exemptions isn't wide enough.

Lord Foul wrote:for every truth there will be a left wing apologist denying and spinning it.....

when the  way crime is reported suits the lefty agenda its fine...when it doesnt it is ignored

"oh the way we now record rape has caused the increase in reported rapes"...erm...nope...you (the lefty govt of sweden), changed the way you record rape NOT because of feminism....but to mask the increasing attacks on your women...

eddie wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Because your statement is ambiguous and your list of exemptions isn't wide enough.

Well add some more then! Still won't make you right about MOST people NOT being equal.

Perhaps you'd be better off making a list of people you dont consider equal to yourself and then I can decide how best to answer you because an actual debate with you can take a long fucking time and I'm not knitting a scarf whilst I wait.

Tommy Monk wrote:

eddie wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Because your statement is ambiguous and your list of exemptions isn't wide enough.

Well add some more then! Still won't make you right about MOST people NOT being equal.

Perhaps you'd be better off making a list of people you dont consider equal to yourself and then I can decide how best to answer you because an actual debate with you can take a long fucking time and I'm not knitting a scarf whilst I wait.

Maybe you should define what you mean by 'treated equally' first...?

Lord Foul wrote:yes i both read it and understood it

and understood its implications somewhat better than you It seems....

"Sweden does indeed have far more reported cases of sexual assault than any other country. But it’s not because Swedes – of any colour – are very criminal. It’s because they’re very feminist. In 2005, Sweden’s Social Democratic government introduced a new sex-crime law with the world’s most expansive definition of rape.

Imagine, for example, if your boss rubbed against you in an unwanted way at work once a week for a year. In Canada, this would potentially be a case of sexual assault. Under Germany’s more limited laws, it would be zero cases. In Sweden, it would be tallied as 52 separate cases of rape. If you engaged in a half-dozen sex acts with your spouse, then later you felt you had not given consent, in Sweden that would be classified as six cases of rape.

The marked increase in rape cases during the 2000s is almost entirely a reflection of Sweden’s deep public interest in sexual equality and the rights of women, not of attacks by newcomers."



all spin and propaganda

the attacks were increasing around 2000-2005...to mask this increasing trend the govt did the above, which obviously buried the reality in a morass of "expanded definitions of rape"

eddie wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


Maybe you should define what you mean by 'treated equally' first...?

Is this what I waited for? For you to come back with a question?
Gee, let me see what I mean......

Nope, cant think of a better way of putting it apart from how I said it. Use the dictionary definition, yes?

Tommy Monk wrote:

eddie wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


Maybe you should define what you mean by 'treated equally' first...?

Is this what I waited for? For you to come back with a question?
Gee, let me see what I mean......

Nope, cant think of a better way of putting it apart from how I said it. Use the dictionary definition, yes?

I'm asking you to clarify what you mean by 'everyone should be treated equally'...

Ben Reilly wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:yes i both read it and understood it

and understood its implications somewhat better than you It seems....

"Sweden does indeed have far more reported cases of sexual assault than any other country. But it’s not because Swedes – of any colour – are very criminal. It’s because they’re very feminist. In 2005, Sweden’s Social Democratic government introduced a new sex-crime law with the world’s most expansive definition of rape.

Imagine, for example, if your boss rubbed against you in an unwanted way at work once a week for a year. In Canada, this would potentially be a case of sexual assault. Under Germany’s more limited laws, it would be zero cases. In Sweden, it would be tallied as 52 separate cases of rape. If you engaged in a half-dozen sex acts with your spouse, then later you felt you had not given consent, in Sweden that would be classified as six cases of rape.

The marked increase in rape cases during the 2000s is almost entirely a reflection of Sweden’s deep public interest in sexual equality and the rights of women, not of attacks by newcomers."



all spin and propaganda

the attacks were increasing around 2000-2005...to mask this increasing trend the govt did the above, which obviously buried the reality in a morass of "expanded definitions of rape"

You have a source for that 2000-2005 claim?

eddie wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


I'm asking you to clarify what you mean by 'everyone should be treated equally'...

I am not doing this with you. If you don't know what the fuck it means then I cannot help you Tommy. I'm not going to go back to the basics of word definition before I can wring an answer out of you.  What is this thing you do with picking on a phrase or word and then not letting it go?

Ben Reilly wrote:

Sweden, the story goes, used to be very peaceful, very safe, very blond. Then it started letting in darker-skinned people. Soon there were news reports of attacks on Swedes. Now, Sweden records the highest incidence of rape in the world.

The Sweden story has become absolutely viral. You’ve probably read a version in a Facebook post, or heard it in a speech or debate. It is the argument-ender of the intolerant: To make the case against refugees, or immigration, or “Islam,” you recount a couple of stories about refugee-camp horrors, some random anecdotes of sex crimes involving brown people in various countries, and then drop the Sweden story.

Behind it you’ll find the resurrection of an old, deadly appeal to fear – that people of certain skin colours are natural-born predators who threaten white women. It’s a version of lynch-mob logic that happens to appeal to the liberal and tolerant as much as the hateful and intolerant.


And it falls apart as soon as you speak to anyone knowledgeable in Sweden.

“What we’re hearing is a very, very extreme exaggeration based on a few isolated events, and the claim that it’s related to immigration is more or less not true at all,” says Jerzy Sarnecki, a criminologist at Stockholm University who has devoted his career to the study of criminality, ethnicity and age.

Sweden does indeed have far more reported cases of sexual assault than any other country. But it’s not because Swedes – of any colour – are very criminal. It’s because they’re very feminist. In 2005, Sweden’s Social Democratic government introduced a new sex-crime law with the world’s most expansive definition of rape.

Imagine, for example, if your boss rubbed against you in an unwanted way at work once a week for a year. In Canada, this would potentially be a case of sexual assault. Under Germany’s more limited laws, it would be zero cases. In Sweden, it would be tallied as 52 separate cases of rape. If you engaged in a half-dozen sex acts with your spouse, then later you felt you had not given consent, in Sweden that would be classified as six cases of rape.

The marked increase in rape cases during the 2000s is almost entirely a reflection of Sweden’s deep public interest in sexual equality and the rights of women, not of attacks by newcomers.

But aren’t refugees and immigrants responsible for a greater share of Sweden’s sexual assaults?

In a sense. Statistics show that the foreign-born in Sweden, as in most European countries, do have a higher rate of criminal charges than the native-born, in everything from shoplifting to murder (though not enough to affect the crime rate by more than a tiny margin). The opposite is true in North America, where immigrants have lower-than-average crime rates.

Why the difference? Because people who go to Sweden are poorer, and crime rates are mostly a product not of ethnicity but of class. In a 2013 analysis of 63,000 Swedish residents, Prof. Sarnecki and his colleagues found that 75 per cent of the difference in foreign-born crime is accounted for by income and neighbourhood, both indicators of poverty. Among the Swedish-born children of immigrants, the crime rate falls in half (and is almost entirely concentrated in lesser property crimes) and is 100-per-cent attributable to class – they are no more likely to commit crimes, including rape, than ethnic Swedes of the same family income.

What also stands out is that almost all the victims of these crimes – especially sex crimes – are also foreign-born. But for a handful of headline-grabbing atrocities, it isn’t a case of swarthy men preying on white women, but of Sweden’s system turning refugees into victims of crime.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/swedens-rape-crisis-isnt-what-it-seems/article30019623/

Lord Foul wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:yes i both read it and understood it

and understood its implications somewhat better than you It seems....

"Sweden does indeed have far more reported cases of sexual assault than any other country. But it’s not because Swedes – of any colour – are very criminal. It’s because they’re very feminist. In 2005, Sweden’s Social Democratic government introduced a new sex-crime law with the world’s most expansive definition of rape.

Imagine, for example, if your boss rubbed against you in an unwanted way at work once a week for a year. In Canada, this would potentially be a case of sexual assault. Under Germany’s more limited laws, it would be zero cases. In Sweden, it would be tallied as 52 separate cases of rape. If you engaged in a half-dozen sex acts with your spouse, then later you felt you had not given consent, in Sweden that would be classified as six cases of rape.

The marked increase in rape cases during the 2000s is almost entirely a reflection of Sweden’s deep public interest in sexual equality and the rights of women, not of attacks by newcomers."



all spin and propaganda

the attacks were increasing around 2000-2005...to mask this increasing trend the govt did the above, which obviously buried the reality in a morass of "expanded definitions of rape"

You have a source for that 2000-2005 claim?

"According to the crime prevention council, rapes reported most occurred between people of no or little acquaintance. This type of rape has risen by 10 percent between 1996 and 2006. "

from http://www.icare.to/article.php?id=15685&lang=en  .......an "anti racist" website.....

Indeed, according to official statistics on file with The Swedish Crime Survey, the sexual violence rate in Sweden has remained about the same between 2005 and 2014. In fact, it actually decreased by .3 percent between 2013 and 2014. That said, the country has the highest rate of rape in Europe, a statistic that has been partially attributed to both Swedish law, wherein rape is given a wider definition than in other countries, as well as a higher tendency among women to report the crimes to the police.

"It is much more complicated than the way the media are normally presenting it," Jerzy Sarnecki, a professor of criminology at Stockholm University, told The Daily Beast. "According to studies which I have done on general crime, most of the differences in recorded crimes between immigrants and Swedes are explained by socioeconomic factors. It doesn't mean of course, that one, a few, or several other incidents of that kind [sexual assaults perpetuated by immigrants] didn't happen."

Tommy Monk wrote:All the raped Swedish women have been 'culturally enriched'...

veya_victaous wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:All the raped Swedish women have been 'culturally enriched'...

Yes tommy, your fantasies are terrible

do you want to Raped by a Muslim man?
the amount you go on about it and think about it makes me think you must?
I mean here you are literally committing to an obvious fallacy because it allows you to fantazie about beign raped by Muslims.
Do you always ignore reality if it allows you to dream about being raped by Muslims?

"One of the ghosts of all kinds of racial prejudices is allegations of sexual crimes against women," Sarnecki said, noting that in the 19th and 20th centuries many African-American men were executed based on (often unproven) allegations of raping white women. "It's an old, very well-used argument against immigrants."

Ben Reilly wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:
Left wing waffle...

Is that all you do when people challenge your positions -- just pull a stupid phrase out of a can and stick your fingers in your ears?

veya_victaous wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:
All the raped Swedish women have been 'culturally enriched'...

Yes tommy, your fantasies are terrible

do you want to Raped by a Muslim man?
the amount you go on about it and think about it makes me think you must?
I mean here you are literally committing to an obvious fallacy because it allows you to fantazie about beign raped by Muslims.
Do you always ignore reality if it allows you to dream about being raped by Muslims?

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

Is that all you do when people challenge your positions -- just pull a stupid phrase out of a can and stick your fingers in your ears?

Not only a stupid phrase...

Meaningless, lazy and somewhat juvenile,  as well..


I wonder if the li'l ol' Tommykins has done anything yet about opening a boutique pastry shop ("Waffles R Us" ?) ?  He's certainly built up enough stock on here..        

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

Yes tommy, your fantasies are terrible

do you want to Raped by a Muslim man?
the amount you go on about it and think about it makes me think you must?
I mean here you are literally committing to an obvious fallacy because it allows you to fantazie about beign raped by Muslims.
Do you always ignore reality if it allows you to dream about being raped by Muslims?

Don't forget Tommy's fixation on "Asian gangs", either...

If a Pakistani Muslim isn't availabe to rape him,  then maybe an Indian Hindu would be his second best choice ?