Today - Commemorating the 80th Anniversay of Cable Street

Jeremy Corbyn remembering his Mother's part in the Battle of Cable Street


Can't say as I have heard a word about it from the Tories.



Corbyn and Khan to join community in Cable Street commemoration

The Labour leader and mayor will come together with the Jewish community remembering the confrontation with Oswald Mosley’s fascists

A demonstrator is taken away under arrest by police officers after a mounted baton charge, in East London, on Oct. 4, 1936, to stop fighting between anti-fascists and Sir Oswald Mosley's blackshirts.

Jeremy Corbyn and Sadiq Khan will join members of the Jewish community in a march commemorating the anti-fascist battle of Cable Street 80 years ago.

http://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/corbyn-and-khan-to-join-community-in-cable-street-commemoration/

We all know which side Tom , Stormee and Major's parents supported.
The strutting Seig Heilling blackshirts.

have a few days in the nether regions HA....

Handy Andy wrote:We all know which side Tom , Stormee and Major's parents supported.
The strutting Seig Heilling blackshirts.

If their parent's didn't, if it happened today, they would.

ye gods....

and little fishes

wellcant say as I'm unhappy sassy, once again you and HA prove me right

sassy wrote:

Handy Andy wrote:We all know which side Tom , Stormee and Major's parents supported.
The strutting Seig Heilling blackshirts.

If their parent's didn't, if it happened today, they would.

surely these days it would be you and momentum driving the jews out

Lord Foul wrote:wellcant say as I'm unhappy sassy, once again you and HA prove me right

By speaking the truth and saying Major and Tommy are fascists?   If that's the case, tough.

You can pretend they are not, I won't.

sassy wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:wellcant say as I'm unhappy sassy, once again you and HA prove me right

By speaking the truth and saying Major and Tommy are fascists?   If that's the case, tough.

You can pretend they are not, I won't.

sounds like many a socialist run country anywhere in the world

If in doubt find a slogan on Google!
Was Corbyn there for recruitment or damage limitation? Hasn't he just shown the inquiry into anti semitism to be a farce with his promotion of Ms Chakrabahti?

The Devil, You Know wrote:

sassy wrote:


If their parent's didn't, if it happened today, they would.

surely these days it would be you and momentum driving the jews out

Yea, all those Jewish members who oppose the actions of the Israeli Government and the Settler Party

There must be a large number of anti-Semitic Jews of note, then.
It’s also quite possible to accept Israel as the home of Jewish people, but still oppose many of its expansionist policies at the expense of the Palestinians. Get over it.



Free Speech on Israel is a network of labour, green and trade union activists in the UK, mainly Jewish, who came together in April 2016 to counter attempts by pro-Israel right wingers to brand the campaign for justice for Palestinians as antisemitic. Their attacks form part of two highly orchestrated campaigns: one, to undermine the Labour Party led by Jeremy Corbyn, the first potential British Prime Minister to have a consistent record of supporting Palestinian rights; the other, to suppress the pro-Palestinian voices of Jews, Muslims, Christians, and others of many faiths and none, campaigning for freedom, justice and equality for all.
We are fully committed to combating all forms of racism and to defending those who are subjected to it – Jews, Muslims, migrants and members of any ethnic or religious minority, in the UK and elsewhere.
We assert the right to campaign in solidarity with all oppressed people, including Palestinians. Solidarity with Palestine is consistent with the finest traditions of the labour movement, in the same spirit as its support for the American civil rights movement, for the anti-Apartheid struggle in South Africa and for the movement opposing Western governments’ disastrous wars in the Middle East.
We reject the notion that questioning the Zionist ideology of the Israeli state and its supporters entails anti-Jewish prejudice. Not all Jews are Zionists. Not all Zionists are Jews. Leading Palestinian activists have been forthright in their condemnation of antisemitism in any guise.
Language or behaviour is antisemitic if:

• it inflicts or incites violence against Jews because they are Jews
  
• it expresses hatred of Jews because they are Jews
  
• it stereotypes Jews on the basis of alleged negative personal characteristics such as being mean, sly and avaricious
  
• it links Jews to conspiracy theories about world domination of media, financial or governmental institutions
  
• it accuses all Jews of embracing a single ideology, ie; Zionism
  
• it implicates all Jews in the actions of the Israeli state
  
• it suggests Jews were responsible for, or fabricated, the Holocaust.
  

Branding legitimate pro-Palestinian utterance or actions as antisemitic undermines democratic debate in a manner reminiscent of the McCarthy era in the United States.
We stand for free speech on Israel and Palestine and against the silencing of pro-Palestinian voices.

http://freespeechonisrael.org.uk/  (Jewish Labour Activists)

Miffs2 wrote:If in doubt find a slogan on Google!
Was Corbyn there for recruitment or damage limitation? Hasn't  he just shown the inquiry into anti semitism to be a farce with his promotion of Ms Chakrabahti?

Corbyn was there because he has always promoted it, and his mother and father took part in it and he has a fantastic relationship with the Jewish community.   You shouldn't be so ignorant as to believe what you read in the press.

sassy wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:wellcant say as I'm unhappy sassy, once again you and HA prove me right

By speaking the truth and saying Major and Tommy are fascists?   If that's the case, tough.

You can pretend they are not, I won't.

nice try at polishing a turd sassy...but it doesnt cut it...nor does you implied assertion that I condone (particularly) their POV on all things....

No sassy It is that my observation is that its the left that ALWAYS (well...over 90% of the time) START the unpleasantness, name calling and shit stirring...It is the LEFT that are incapable of reasoned debate

your posts and HA' s above prove that very point since non of your targets you single out have even posted yet on this thread...and yet ...off you go goading from the offset...

YOU (and your ilk....) are the source of most of the contention here...you do realise that dont you...

Is it a typical lefty trait...an utter lack of civility and manners....

no wonder the left side of things appeals to our feral chave population living in the concrete jungles.....Its good to be pig ignorant...innit

sassy wrote:

Miffs2 wrote:If in doubt find a slogan on Google!
Was Corbyn there for recruitment or damage limitation? Hasn't  he just shown the inquiry into anti semitism to be a farce with his promotion of Ms Chakrabahti?

Corbyn was there because he has always promoted it, and his mother and father took part in it and he has a fantastic relationship with the Jewish community.   You shouldn't be so ignorant as to believe what you read in the press.

Oh yes....its always the nasty medias fault innit....

theres no smoke without fire...

and in labours case theres flames comming outta the roof......

Nice try at pretending that is what was happening Vick, but then, I've come to expect it, one of the reasons I can't be bothered with here much.

sassy wrote:

Miffs2 wrote:If in doubt find a slogan on Google!
Was Corbyn there for recruitment or damage limitation? Hasn't  he just shown the inquiry into anti semitism to be a farce with his promotion of Ms Chakrabahti?

Corbyn was there because he has always promoted it, and his mother and father took part in it and he has a fantastic relationship with the Jewish community.   You shouldn't be so ignorant as to believe what you read in the press.

How does that sit with you supporting him? You don't exactly hide your anti Jew feelings
I mean does your attitude to Palestine make you a fascist?

so you deny that you and HA posted goading shit here....

AND you also say that the people you reference HAVE posted in this thread (and personally had a go at you ..in this thread???)

you are saying that you are merely retaliating to a post by these (non present posters) in this thread


actually what you are saying is that you look for any opportunity to spread shit around all over every thread you can, becasue at some time on some thread one or other of them has offended you...
evven if they havnt posted on a thread???

ok...thats kinda.....

mmmmmm.........

sassy wrote:

The Devil, You Know wrote:
surely these days it would be you and momentum driving the jews out

Yea, all those Jewish members who oppose the actions of the Israeli Government and the Settler Party

There must be a large number of anti-Semitic Jews of note, then.
It’s also quite possible to accept Israel as the home of Jewish people, but still oppose many of its expansionist policies at the expense of the Palestinians. Get over it.



Free Speech on Israel is a network of labour, green and trade union activists in the UK, mainly Jewish, who came together in April 2016 to counter attempts by pro-Israel right wingers to brand the campaign for justice for Palestinians as antisemitic. Their attacks form part of two highly orchestrated campaigns: one, to undermine the Labour Party led by Jeremy Corbyn, the first potential British Prime Minister to have a consistent record of supporting Palestinian rights; the other, to suppress the pro-Palestinian voices of Jews, Muslims, Christians, and others of many faiths and none, campaigning for freedom, justice and equality for all.
We are fully committed to combating all forms of racism and to defending those who are subjected to it – Jews, Muslims, migrants and members of any ethnic or religious minority, in the UK and elsewhere.
We assert the right to campaign in solidarity with all oppressed people, including Palestinians. Solidarity with Palestine is consistent with the finest traditions of the labour movement, in the same spirit as its support for the American civil rights movement, for the anti-Apartheid struggle in South Africa and for the movement opposing Western governments’ disastrous wars in the Middle East.
We reject the notion that questioning the Zionist ideology of the Israeli state and its supporters entails anti-Jewish prejudice. Not all Jews are Zionists. Not all Zionists are Jews. Leading Palestinian activists have been forthright in their condemnation of antisemitism in any guise.
Language or behaviour is antisemitic if:

• it inflicts or incites violence against Jews because they are Jews
  
• it expresses hatred of Jews because they are Jews
  
• it stereotypes Jews on the basis of alleged negative personal characteristics such as being mean, sly and avaricious
  
• it links Jews to conspiracy theories about world domination of media, financial or governmental institutions
  
• it accuses all Jews of embracing a single ideology, ie; Zionism
  
• it implicates all Jews in the actions of the Israeli state
  
• it suggests Jews were responsible for, or fabricated, the Holocaust.
  

Branding legitimate pro-Palestinian utterance or actions as antisemitic undermines democratic debate in a manner reminiscent of the McCarthy era in the United States.
We stand for free speech on Israel and Palestine and against the silencing of pro-Palestinian voices.

http://freespeechonisrael.org.uk/  (Jewish Labour Activists)

blah blah blah, you support a terrorist regime

Miffs2 wrote:

sassy wrote:

Corbyn was there because he has always promoted it, and his mother and father took part in it and he has a fantastic relationship with the Jewish community.   You shouldn't be so ignorant as to believe what you read in the press.

How does that sit with you supporting him? You don't exactly hide your anti Jew feelings
I mean does your attitude to Palestine make you a fascist?

Do get it right, anti Israeli Government, anti fundamental Settler Party, pro Jewish peace groups, with whom I have been friends for many, many years.   The fact you can't tell the difference shows ignorance of the situations.   There are hundreds of thousands of Jews who are anti Zionist and anti the colonisation of Palestine.   You should educate youself, but then again, you do like to re-inforce your islamaphobia.

Lord Foul wrote:so you deny that you and HA posted goading shit here....

AND you also say that the people you reference HAVE posted in this thread (and personally had a go at you ..in this thread???)  

you are saying that you are merely retaliating to a post by these (non present posters) in this thread


actually what you are saying is that you look for any opportunity to spread shit around all over every thread you can, becasue at some time on some thread one or other of them has offended you...
evven if they havnt posted on a thread???

ok...thats kinda.....

mmmmmm.........

You do realise how deranged you sound considering I am hardly ever here.   No, I don't suppose you do.

try reading your posts above

sassy wrote:

Miffs2 wrote:

How does that sit with you supporting him? You don't exactly hide your anti Jew feelings
I mean does your attitude to Palestine make you a fascist?

Do get it right, anti Israeli Government, anti fundamental Settler Party, pro Jewish peace groups, with whom I have been friends for many, many years.   The fact you can't tell the difference shows ignorance of the situations.   There are hundreds of thousands of Jews who are anti Zionist and anti the colonisation of Palestine.   You should educate youself, but then again, you do like to re-inforce your islamaphobia.

you are a terrorist supporter and an apologist for terrorists, there is no other way to see it.

see...thats the point isnt it...the whole ethos of leftism....


"its someone else"

we are always right
we can act and do as we want cos we is the leftys
and if that makes a problem its someone elses fault...

we accept no responsibility for our actions

we will create hell....and deny all culapbility



just read your first few posts FFS.....

its there ...in print


HA breaking rules by referencing posters family

you "behind the scenes" egging him on

and all the time...where...just where ...the fuck......... are the posters you are talking about.....and what did they say wrong to you IN THIS THREAD?

YOU it seems are the demented one....thinking you can just liberally spread it around without thought
I mean...a retaliatory comment where RELEVANT I can let go....and frequently do...

how is what you did above RELEVANT to ANYTHING?

sassy wrote:

Miffs2 wrote:

How does that sit with you supporting him? You don't exactly hide your anti Jew feelings
I mean does your attitude to Palestine make you a fascist?

Do get it right, anti Israeli Government, anti fundamental Settler Party, pro Jewish peace groups, with whom I have been friends for many, many years.   The fact you can't tell the difference shows ignorance of the situations.   There are hundreds of thousands of Jews who are anti Zionist and anti the colonisation of Palestine.   You should educate youself, but then again, you do like to re-inforce your islamaphobia.

Islamaphobia?! Have a word ya mad old bat. I treat all equally, you should try it. But you support any atrocity committed by a Muslim. Go live in a Muslim country, you wouldn't last a week.

Miffs2 wrote:

sassy wrote:


Do get it right, anti Israeli Government, anti fundamental Settler Party, pro Jewish peace groups, with whom I have been friends for many, many years.   The fact you can't tell the difference shows ignorance of the situations.   There are hundreds of thousands of Jews who are anti Zionist and anti the colonisation of Palestine.   You should educate youself, but then again, you do like to re-inforce your islamaphobia.

Islamaphobia?! Have a word ya mad old bat. I treat all equally, you should try it. But you support any atrocity committed by a Muslim. Go live in a Muslim country, you wouldn't last a week.

yes she does, the difference between israel and hamas and the PA is if isreali's murder people they are prosecuted in court, if the palestinians murder people they are paid a £2000 pension.

sassy wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:wellcant say as I'm unhappy sassy, once again you and HA prove me right

By speaking the truth and saying Major and Tommy are fascists?   If that's the case, tough.

You can pretend they are not, I won't.

When I read that list... I think islam... and the EU...


The eu is remarkably like what oswold and his mates wanted...


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Party_of_Europe

And sassy loves islam and the eu...

Miffs2 wrote:

sassy wrote:


Do get it right, anti Israeli Government, anti fundamental Settler Party, pro Jewish peace groups, with whom I have been friends for many, many years.   The fact you can't tell the difference shows ignorance of the situations.   There are hundreds of thousands of Jews who are anti Zionist and anti the colonisation of Palestine.   You should educate youself, but then again, you do like to re-inforce your islamaphobia.

Islamaphobia?! Have a word ya mad old bat. I treat all equally, you should try it. But you support any atrocity committed by a Muslim. Go live in a Muslim country, you wouldn't last a week.

I so much rather be an old bat than a raddled wino.

The Devil, You Know wrote:

Miffs2 wrote:

Islamaphobia?! Have a word ya mad old bat. I treat all equally, you should try it. But you support any atrocity committed by a Muslim. Go live in a Muslim country, you wouldn't last a week.

yes she does, the difference between israel and hamas and the PA is if isreali's murder people they are prosecuted in court, if the palestinians murder people they are paid a £2000 pension.

What a load of hasbara rubbish.   Israeli's kill, maim and imprison Palestinian children every single day, but you ignore that as does the press.   I bet you didn't even know that Israel has been bombing Gaza frequently lately.   One of their own pilots died when he crashed his plane coming back from bombing Gazan kids.

Guys can we all stick to the topic? Honestly? My nerves are jangled at the moment and I need this place to be calm.

Please be calm?

They won't stick to the topic, because they don't like the truth, they only like their twisted view of the world.

Lord Foul wrote:see...thats the point isnt it...the whole ethos of leftism....


"its someone else"

we are always right
we can act and do as we want cos we is the leftys
and if that makes a problem its someone elses fault...

we accept no responsibility for our actions

we will create hell....and deny all culapbility



just read your first few posts FFS.....

its there ...in print


HA breaking rules by referencing posters family

you "behind the scenes" egging him on

and all the time...where...just where ...the fuck......... are the posters you are talking about.....and what did they say wrong to you IN THIS THREAD?

YOU it seems are the demented one....thinking you can just liberally spread it around without thought
I mean...a retaliatory comment where RELEVANT I can let go....and frequently do...

how is what you did above RELEVANT to ANYTHING?

Blah, blah, blah.   We know exactly where Major stands, he's said it all over forums for years, he's a racist son of a bitch and I'll say so, as Ben says, he can stick it up his arse sideways.   He doesn't need to post in this thread for me to know that if the Battle of Cable Street happened now, he'd be on the side of the Blackshirts.   And if you don't realise that, there's something wrong with you.

The Devil, You Know wrote:

sassy wrote:


Yea, all those Jewish members who oppose the actions of the Israeli Government and the Settler Party

There must be a large number of anti-Semitic Jews of note, then.
It’s also quite possible to accept Israel as the home of Jewish people, but still oppose many of its expansionist policies at the expense of the Palestinians. Get over it.



Free Speech on Israel is a network of labour, green and trade union activists in the UK, mainly Jewish, who came together in April 2016 to counter attempts by pro-Israel right wingers to brand the campaign for justice for Palestinians as antisemitic. Their attacks form part of two highly orchestrated campaigns: one, to undermine the Labour Party led by Jeremy Corbyn, the first potential British Prime Minister to have a consistent record of supporting Palestinian rights; the other, to suppress the pro-Palestinian voices of Jews, Muslims, Christians, and others of many faiths and none, campaigning for freedom, justice and equality for all.
We are fully committed to combating all forms of racism and to defending those who are subjected to it – Jews, Muslims, migrants and members of any ethnic or religious minority, in the UK and elsewhere.
We assert the right to campaign in solidarity with all oppressed people, including Palestinians. Solidarity with Palestine is consistent with the finest traditions of the labour movement, in the same spirit as its support for the American civil rights movement, for the anti-Apartheid struggle in South Africa and for the movement opposing Western governments’ disastrous wars in the Middle East.
We reject the notion that questioning the Zionist ideology of the Israeli state and its supporters entails anti-Jewish prejudice. Not all Jews are Zionists. Not all Zionists are Jews. Leading Palestinian activists have been forthright in their condemnation of antisemitism in any guise.
Language or behaviour is antisemitic if:

• it inflicts or incites violence against Jews because they are Jews
  
• it expresses hatred of Jews because they are Jews
  
• it stereotypes Jews on the basis of alleged negative personal characteristics such as being mean, sly and avaricious
  
• it links Jews to conspiracy theories about world domination of media, financial or governmental institutions
  
• it accuses all Jews of embracing a single ideology, ie; Zionism
  
• it implicates all Jews in the actions of the Israeli state
  
• it suggests Jews were responsible for, or fabricated, the Holocaust.
  

Branding legitimate pro-Palestinian utterance or actions as antisemitic undermines democratic debate in a manner reminiscent of the McCarthy era in the United States.
We stand for free speech on Israel and Palestine and against the silencing of pro-Palestinian voices.

http://freespeechonisrael.org.uk/  (Jewish Labour Activists)

blah blah blah, you support a terrorist regime

You support war criminals dickhead, who drop white phosphorus on babies.

sassy wrote:

Miffs2 wrote:

Islamaphobia?! Have a word ya mad old bat. I treat all equally, you should try it. But you support any atrocity committed by a Muslim. Go live in a Muslim country, you wouldn't last a week.

I so much rather be an old bat than a raddled wino.

That comment says far more about you than me. You understand that yes?

sassy wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:see...thats the point isnt it...the whole ethos of leftism....


"its someone else"

we are always right
we can act and do as we want cos we is the leftys
and if that makes a problem its someone elses fault...

we accept no responsibility for our actions

we will create hell....and deny all culapbility



just read your first few posts FFS.....

its there ...in print


HA breaking rules by referencing posters family

you "behind the scenes" egging him on

and all the time...where...just where ...the fuck......... are the posters you are talking about.....and what did they say wrong to you IN THIS THREAD?

YOU it seems are the demented one....thinking you can just liberally spread it around without thought
I mean...a retaliatory comment where RELEVANT I can let go....and frequently do...

how is what you did above RELEVANT to ANYTHING?

Blah, blah, blah.   We know exactly where Major stands, he's said it all over forums for years, he's a racist son of a bitch and I'll say so, as Ben says, he can stick it up his arse sideways.   He doesn't need to post in this thread for me to know that if the Battle of Cable Street happened now, he'd be on the side of the Blackshirts.   And if you don't realise that, there's something wrong with you.

There is nothing wrong with Lord F, despite us trying to warn him that you are an amoral psychopath, he was your staunchest defender for years. He now sees you more clearly and you have no one but your self to blame. Everyone sees the real you in the end.

Sassy what do you say about Palestine terrorists being paid £2.000 for every Israeli Soldier they kill, bye the way it's OUR money we give them in so-called aid, witch the leaders of Hamas use to buy their Yachts and big houses?
You will deny ,as you deny anything that puts Hamas in a bad light

Sassy will just pretend she hasn't seen that nicko...


Muslims can do no wrong in her eyes...

She is taking her time, but she might be doing something else,

might she?

https://youtu.be/GOgV6Fvc8wc

nicko wrote:Sassy what do you say about Palestine terrorists being paid £2.000 for every Israeli Soldier they kill,  bye the way it's OUR money we give them in so-called aid,   witch the leaders of Hamas use to buy their Yachts and big houses?
You will deny ,as you deny anything that puts Hamas in a bad light

Haven't earned much then have they Nicko:

Breakdown of Deaths

 

	Israelis	Palestinians
Children Killed (More on the impact on children.)	129 Remember These Children	1,523 Remember These Children
Civilians* Killed	731 B'Tselem	3,535 - 4,226 B'Tselem
People killed in the course of a targeted killing	1	408 or more B'Tselem
People who were the object of a targeted killing	1	238 B'Tselem
People killed on own land	596 (53.8%) B'Tselem	6,756 (98.9%) B'Tselem
People killed on others' land	508 (46.2%) B'Tselem	73 (1.1%) B'Tselem

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stat/deaths.html




Of course, Tommy will do everything he can to deflect from Cable Street, he'd have been on the side of the Blackshirts if he had been born then.


By the way B'Tselem are a JEWISH peace group IN ISRAEL.   They are the people I have been talking to for the best part of 40 years.

Haven't earned much, not through want of trying is it?

Really?   Perhaps you would like to show me the reports of the IDF being targetted.   You won't be able to.

On the other hand, I could fill the forum with reports of the IDF killing kids, shooting farmers and fishermen, kidnapping children and abusing them, kidnapping peace workers and the latest, attaching a ship in international waters and kidnapping the women on board.

Whatever proof I show you will not be believed, The latest idea is to run down Civilians and Soldiers with cars, and to go up to Soldiers and at the last minute try to stab them. But you will say that's not true wont you.

There,s none so blind as those who will not see !

My grandfather was there - not on Mosely's side, I hasten to add.

nicko wrote:Whatever proof I show you will not be believed,  The latest idea is to run down Civilians and Soldiers with cars, and to go up to Soldiers and at the last minute try to stab them.     But you will say that's not true wont you.

There,s none  so blind as those who will not see !

Yes Nicko, you are quite right, you are quite blind and refuse to see.


Ronnie Barkan - Jewish Israeli activist




The bravest Israeli Jews are part of his group, I salute them.


They have the same principles and the same bravery as the people who stood up to Mosley in Cable Street

Well done Jeremy Corbyn attending this event along with Alf Dubs and many others to mark the stand against the facists.

Irn Bru wrote:Well done Jeremy Corbyn attending this event along with Alf Dubs and many others to mark the stand against the facists.

And address the anti-semitism within the Labour Party?

The lefties support the fascist eu dictatorship...

Miffs2 wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:Well done Jeremy Corbyn attending this event along with Alf Dubs and many others to mark the stand against the facists.

And address the anti-semitism within the Labour Party?

The Labour Party condems anti-semitism and islamophobia in all its forms - they've said it often enough haven't they? Didn't see many Tory or UKIP names in the line up of speakers at the event - did you?