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Dreadful set of local election results overnight sees CON lose 4 – their worst performance since TMay became leader

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Post by Irn Bru Mon Sep 26, 2016 1:01 am

Looks like a LibDem revival as well after they got caned for jumping into bed with the Tories

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/09/23/dreadful-set-of-local-election-results-overnight-sees-con-lose-4-their-worst-performance-since-tmay-became-leader/

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Post by 'Wolfie Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:37 am

affraid

OH NO !!!  This can't be true..

Poor li'l Deano's been telling anybody who would listen over this past week or two,  just how spiffingly the Tories are travelling --  and how Labour, the LibDems and the Greens are all heading for certain extinction.     Razz
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Post by nicko Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:41 am

Irn is rather loose with the truth.

Wolfie what do you know about Labour, Liberals and the Greens?

Not a lot by the sound of it!!
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Post by The Devil, You Know Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:14 pm

Irn Bru wrote:Looks like a LibDem revival as well after they got caned for jumping into bed with the Tories

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/09/23/dreadful-set-of-local-election-results-overnight-sees-con-lose-4-their-worst-performance-since-tmay-became-leader/

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meanwhile in the real world
ICM General Election poll:
CON 41% (nc)
LAB 26% (-2)
UKIP 14% (+1)
LD 8% (-1)
Green 4% (nc)


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Post by The Devil, You Know Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:16 pm

Irn Bru wrote:Looks like a LibDem revival as well after they got caned for jumping into bed with the Tories

http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/09/23/dreadful-set-of-local-election-results-overnight-sees-con-lose-4-their-worst-performance-since-tmay-became-leader/

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the problem with interpreting these council sets wins as a surge in any direction is that the usually constitute a few hundred votes with a couple of handful of votes either way constituting a double digit increase/fall.

but if it makes you feel better in your safe space so be it.
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Post by The Devil, You Know Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:19 pm

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:affraid

OH NO !!!  This can't be true..

Poor li'l Deano's been telling anybody who would listen over this past week or two,  just how spiffingly the Tories are travelling --  and how Labour, the LibDems and the Greens are all heading for certain extinction.     Razz
good to see your understanding of local politics is as good as the rest of your knowledge.

not exactly good for labour?

a handful of votes is not going to win labour the election, and the way their conference is going it will be lucky to have as many mp's as the ld's in 2020
just to reiterate
ICM General Election poll:
CON 41% (nc)
LAB 26% (-2)
UKIP 14% (+1)
LD 8% (-1)
Green 4% (nc)
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Post by The Devil, You Know Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:19 pm

nicko wrote:Irn is rather loose with the truth.

Wolfie  what do you know about Labour,  Liberals and the Greens?

Not a lot by the sound of it!!
not a lot is being generous.
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Post by Victorismyhero Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:21 pm

council elections mean nowt when general election intents are being discussed in any case

people will vote for councillors on a far different agenda to what they will vote for an MP...

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Post by The Devil, You Know Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:33 pm

to give some perspective here are the actual results for
Teignmouth Central

Alison Margaret Liberal Democrats 491 51.1% (+28.3) up 120ish
HARVEY, Steven UKIP 111 11.6% (+11.6) up about 10ish
MAYLAM,Nicholas Ralph The Conservative Party 286 29.8% (-12.6)down around 30ish
TIPPER, Malcolm Labour Party 72 7.5% (-8.7) down about 6ish

the turnout in that ward was 25%

hardly the sign of a popular uprising


the 2 other wards in that local election also had turnouts of about 25%

one interesting point is malcom tipper lab stood in 2 wards, didn't know you can do that
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Post by The Devil, You Know Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:40 pm

Christchurch (Allerdale) result:

Atkinson, Eric William UK Independence Party (UKIP) 32
Ellis, Joan Lilian Labour Party 324 ELECTED
Nicholson, Simon William Conservative and Unionist Party 206
Taylor, Debbie Michelle Liberal Democrats 234

Turnout: 36%

yay a decisive win for labour  with 324 votes

or as %ages would have it
LAB: 40.7% (+5.8 )
LDEM: 29.4% (+20.0)
CON: 25.9% (-19.3)
UKIP: 4.0% (+4.0)
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Post by The Devil, You Know Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:26 pm

labour lost another one today and it wasnt even an election
Portsmouth Labour Group Leader @John_Ferrett quits party and calls on others to create a new political party.
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I am loving this corbyn surge


will any of the dyed in the wool, blairites/brownites/special Edites and now corbynites be joining?
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