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Post by Guest Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:26 pm

Father accused of drowning 3-month-old after argument

USA Today - Don Behm & Maggie Angst -  7:26 a.m. EDT August 1, 2016
MILWAUKEE — A Milwaukee man said he witnessed "the most evil thing I've seen" from his apartment window Saturday when a young father holding his crying infant son walked into a pond and sat down so the water was up to his chest and the baby could not be seen.
"That baby cried all the way out into the water," said Robert Amstadt. "Then the crying stopped." The 25-year-old suspect "didn't try to hold the baby up" out of the water, he said. Another man had followed him into the pond.
"He was pleading, 'Let the baby go, give me the baby,' " Amstadt said, describing the second man's attempt to save the infant.
Amstadt said he was talking to a police dispatcher Saturday evening when the suspect jogged away from a crowd of relatives and other people and went into the water.
The suspect, a Milwaukee man, is in custody on a pending homicide charge, accused of drowning his 3-month-old son in the northwest side storm-water pond after an argument with the child's mother, Milwaukee police said Sunday.
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is not identifying the suspect because he has not yet been criminally charged.
A man with the same name and date of birth had been the subject of a domestic violence restraining order petition filed in Milwaukee County Circuit Court in April 2015. But the suspect was not properly served, and the court denied the restraining order and dismissed the case.
It was not clear Sunday whether the petitioner who sought the restraining order was the mother of the child.
According to police, the child's parents were arguing Saturday when the father grabbed the infant, went to the pond and walked in.

“People yelled, 'Don't go in the water.'”
Robert Amstadt, who witnessed incident
A witness followed the man but was unable to retrieve the child, police said.
"I yelled at him 'where's the baby? Where's the baby?' a man identified as Joey Griffin told WITI-TV. "And then I saw a baby floating in the water. I grabbed it. I tried to swim away with it. He lunged at me and took the baby again and swam farther, deeper," the witness said.

Officers ran into the pond in an effort to rescue the boy, but the father was no longer holding him. Police arrested the suspect and began searching for the child, who was found unconscious within minutes, the department said in a statement.
Milwaukee firefighters tried unsuccessfully to revive the child. He died at the scene.
Amstadt had heard a loud argument outside an adjacent apartment building, but trees blocked his view, he said in an interview.
A woman screamed, "Give me back my baby," Amstadt said. Then he saw the suspect holding the infant walking along an asphalt path between the pond and the apartment building.
A crowd was following him. "It was a hornet's nest of people moving around ... crying and screaming," Amstadt said.
Another man tried to take the infant away from the suspect, he said. The suspect yanked the baby's arm out of the other man's grasp, and the infant started crying. That is when Amstadt called 911.
The suspect jogged toward the pond and stopped, Amstadt said. "People yelled, 'Don't go in the water.' "
Then Amstadt told the dispatcher: "He just walked into the water with the baby," he said.
The other man followed them. After the suspect sat down in the water, "the other guy was able to get the baby from him," Amstadt said. "But he snatched it back."
"People were screaming, 'He's drowning the baby.' "
On Sunday, Amstadt returned to the pond shore with balloons, stuffed animals and an angel figurine and started a memorial. He tied a few stuffed animals to a maple tree with ribbons and a string. Other residents added to the memorial, while others started a separate one, with a teddy bear and candles.
Amstadt said he prayed for the family. "I can't imagine what they're going through."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/08/01/father-accused-drowning-son-after-argument/87904638/
Perhaps a special kind of 'Water Boarding' treatment for this heinous human and repeat as often as the mother would deem necessary; would be a just punishment for his end of life long reward for such unbelievable cruelty to a BABY! Sad 
I've placed this in here since there will be  an adjudication!  Perhaps he'll plead guilty and the judge will throw the worst/heinous - extreme sentencing possible at him ...but I'm skeptical and it will most likely go to a jury trial. No

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Post by HoratioTarr Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:35 pm

Oh God, that's just about the worst story I've read and I feel sick
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Post by Victorismyhero Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:40 pm

well as you know...I dont really support the DP ...for a number of reasons...however in this case.......... Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

lets see...there is no "doubt" (especially since no forensic evicence is required)
there are a number of (presumably good ) witnesses...

short of a documented mental illness there can be NO excuse/mitigation

in short......boil him slowly....


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Post by eddie Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:51 pm

There are no words sometimes. I hope that baby died quickly.
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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:58 pm

Betting anything the murderer was mentally ill and thought the baby was the Antichrist or something Evil or Very Mad
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Post by Miffs2 Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:14 pm

Nah, DV restraining order awarded while she was pregnant. Doubt it was about the baby, only a tool to torture the mother with. 
I hope they imprison him, with his crime tattooed on his face.
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Post by eddie Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:14 pm

....creating two, needless deaths.
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Post by Guest Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:23 pm

Miffs2 wrote:Nah, DV restraining order awarded while she was pregnant. Doubt it was about the baby, only a tool to torture the mother with. 
I hope they imprison him, with his crime tattooed on his face.
Not quite the entire story  >

A man with the same name and date of birth had been the subject of a domestic violence restraining order petition filed in Milwaukee County Circuit Court in April 2015. But the suspect was not properly served, and the court denied the restraining order and dismissed the case.
It was not clear Sunday whether the petitioner who sought the restraining order was the mother of the child.
But there's something in this 'back story' and why - WHY, some one couldn't have surrounded that man regardless of his holding that baby - stopping his forward motion towards the water - surrounding him with human bodies - done something!  No
I wasn't there; I don't know, I'm just 'arm chair quarterbacking' a tragic event ...but throwing a blind body block into his knees would have taken him down and kept him out of the water ...
Frustrates me how some people just freeze up when a child's life is in danger and screaming seems to the only thing they can do! Rolling Eyes

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Post by Miffs2 Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:44 pm

I doubt whether how it was served mattered to the perp, the fact it was a possibility would have wound him up. Ex partner defying him that way would be intolerable for him
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Post by Victorismyhero Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:45 pm

4EVER2 wrote:
Miffs2 wrote:Nah, DV restraining order awarded while she was pregnant. Doubt it was about the baby, only a tool to torture the mother with. 
I hope they imprison him, with his crime tattooed on his face.
Not quite the entire story  >

A man with the same name and date of birth had been the subject of a domestic violence restraining order petition filed in Milwaukee County Circuit Court in April 2015. But the suspect was not properly served, and the court denied the restraining order and dismissed the case.
It was not clear Sunday whether the petitioner who sought the restraining order was the mother of the child.
But there's something in this 'back story' and why - WHY, some one couldn't have surrounded that man regardless of his holding that baby - stopping his forward motion towards the water - surrounding him with human bodies - done something!  No
I wasn't there; I don't know, I'm just 'arm chair quarterbacking' a tragic event ...but throwing a blind body block into his knees would have taken him down and kept him out of the water ...
Frustrates me how some people just freeze up when a child's life is in danger and screaming seems to the only thing they can do! Rolling Eyes

a swift well placed kick in the nuts would have served well.....
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Post by HoratioTarr Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:58 pm

Miffs2 wrote:I doubt whether how it was served mattered to the perp, the fact it was a possibility would have wound him up. Ex partner defying him that way would be intolerable for him

That's the worst kind of evil. That poor little mite.
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Post by Miffs2 Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:19 pm

HoratioTarr wrote:
Miffs2 wrote:I doubt whether how it was served mattered to the perp, the fact it was a possibility would have wound him up. Ex partner defying him that way would be intolerable for him

That's the worst kind of evil.   That poor little mite.
Breaks your heart
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