OPENING NIGHT - DNC and Bernie is a Class Act.

Supporters Boo Bernie Sanders As He Tells Them 'We Have Got to Elect Hillary Clinton'

by David Badash
July 25, 2016 2:36 PM      

'This Is the Real World That We Live In'

Bernie Sanders Monday afternoon was booed by his supporters when he urged them to elect Hillary Clinton. The Vermont Senator who built a huge base of supporters addressed them at a meeting ahead of the Democratic National Convention being gaveled in this afternoon.
"We have got to defeat Donald Trump," Sanders told delegates and supporters. "We have got to elect Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine," he continued, to loud boos and cries of "no!"
Sanders raised his hand in an attempt to quell the upset. 
"Brothers and sisters," Sanders said repeatedly, "this is the real world that we live in."
"Donald Trump is a bully and a demagogue. Trump has made bigotry and hatred the cornerstone of his campaign," he said.
Supporters quickly turned into protestors, making it difficult for Sen. Sanders to continue speaking.
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veya_victaous wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:If a woman can become the leader of the most powerful nation in the world, that’s a huge change for all the women of the world.

Just thought I'd point that out

but that is also the point
Australia the Uk etc have done that already.
And Hilliary is a bad one to do it, like Thacher she will leave a negaitive connation of Women in power.

Plus as shown with Obama, it is nothing but symbolic and doesn't not actually fix anything when not backed by broader social change.

@Quill
I answered multipule times
Not trusted by 86%, No one should be allowed to lead if they are that Untrusted.
Too many connections to Wall street
Too much like every other party hack unless leader.
too much of a bandwagon jumper.
People like her are what is wrong with Politics
she is there for the prestige not because she has a vision for the nation

AGAIN what is good about her? you have not answered that
And if you cant then she should not be running
Mediocracy does not make a leader.

and we hardly get Fox news down here, it is limited to 30second snippets of 'how fucked up is the USA' throw away news pieces.

veya_victaous wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

I believe you and I appreciate your point.  But if they had a feasible way of achieving the ends Bernie sought, he would be the candidate and not Hillary.

In the end, we had the choice between practical, feasible ends, on the one hand, and pie-in-the-sky dreams, on the other hand.  Not that those dreams can't be realized someday, but we are not there today.  

Perhaps, like healthcare in America, we start in the 90's with Hillary's proposal, and then progress to 2016, when, with a Democratic landslide, we can finally achieve full, complete socialized medicine--get the profit predators out of there.

Let time be your ally.  The progress of healthcare in America offers a model of how politics progress.  Once we subdue the healthcare institutions and insurance capitalists, we can heal our bodies without concern for profit.  Likewise, slowly and incrementally, we can turn the same attention to banking, inheritance, insurance, property and capital, to turn those institutions into mechanisms that serve man, and not the other way around.  But timing is everything...you need patience.

when You put it like that
the USA will be better off long term with Trump.
it will speed things up or burn them down.
Patience is suffering for how many millions?
poverty for how many million children to wait for the political conviences of a party hack?

Veya wrote:I was thinking this the other day
the USA has such a weak social contract, it is not worth being a memeber of American Society.
What is the point at all? I dont see how the Average American gains anything from continuing in their current system.

4EVER2 wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:If a woman can become the leader of the most powerful nation in the world, that’s a huge change for all the women of the world.

Just thought I'd point that out

but that is also the point
Australia the Uk etc have done that already.
And Hilliary is a bad one to do it, like Thacher she will leave a negaitive connation of Women in power.

Plus as shown with Obama, it is nothing but symbolic and doesn't not actually fix anything when not backed by broader social change.

@Quill
I answered multipule times
Not trusted by 86%, No one should be allowed to lead if they are that Untrusted.
Too many connections to Wall street
Too much like every other party hack unless leader.
too much of a bandwagon jumper.
People like her are what is wrong with Politics
she is there for the prestige not because she has a vision for the nation

AGAIN what is good about her? you have not answered that
And if you cant then she should not be running
Mediocracy does not make a leader.

and we hardly get Fox news down here, it is limited to 30second snippets of 'how fucked up is the USA' throw away news pieces.

You are quite the 'Odd - Funny Duck'; all that loud quacking and squawking and your little flat feet just keep paddling around under the water making sure your go somewhere ...yet you can't be bothered to get your lazy DUCK-BUTT busy and do the reading that we've taken the time to do - the years we've observed her - watched HRC get used & abused by the likes of your KIND and now you expect 'US' to quantify our reasons for liking this women as justification to prove something TO YOU! 

SERIOUSLY ...go do some unbiased reading on your own and prove to 'US' that you actually can do that without the 'ugly/anti woman filters' that you seem to be hooked up too! 

Now THAT would be a mind blowing thought provoking post ...hurry along Veya and show us how astute you are and STFW and finding your own unbiased resources.  We've just put in another week of doing our due diligence for our election process here in America and you want to a FREE RIDE for opinions ...just so you can ridicule and slice & dice them up some more; Fuck That Shit 
Your Opinion doesn't matter period!     
HRC may have her faults {as have every POTUS prior to her} but she's got one hell-of-a-work ethic for humanitarian services during her college - post college and since her marriage and still to this day.  You have your Bar Of Morality and you are welcome to it ...that standard doesn't quite work the same way here in America nor would our political system work in your country - like - leave - accept it ...but all of your ranting and saber rattling BS isn't going to re-create how our voting system works!
Sorry Buster ...you're just going to have to STEW IN YOUR OWN JUICES and get over it!   

BTW - POTUS Obama was far - far from a 'token black president' and if that's all you consider him to be; you really haven't any clue about how hard he's worked with the Republicans working against him!
But then again ...your armchair quarter backing your vision of our countries political system isn't quite viewed with the clarity and a full comprehensive understanding for what & how we operate and you never will. 
Will that impede your ability to breathe fresh air - walk outside - do whatever you choose to do daily?

Original Quill wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

Original Quill wrote:

I believe you and I appreciate your point.  But if they had a feasible way of achieving the ends Bernie sought, he would be the candidate and not Hillary.

In the end, we had the choice between practical, feasible ends, on the one hand, and pie-in-the-sky dreams, on the other hand.  Not that those dreams can't be realized someday, but we are not there today.  

Perhaps, like healthcare in America, we start in the 90's with Hillary's proposal, and then progress to 2016, when, with a Democratic landslide, we can finally achieve full, complete socialized medicine--get the profit predators out of there.

Let time be your ally.  The progress of healthcare in America offers a model of how politics progress.  Once we subdue the healthcare institutions and insurance capitalists, we can heal our bodies without concern for profit.  Likewise, slowly and incrementally, we can turn the same attention to banking, inheritance, insurance, property and capital, to turn those institutions into mechanisms that serve man, and not the other way around.  But timing is everything...you need patience.

when You put it like that
the USA will be better off long term with Trump.
it will speed things up or burn them down.
Patience is suffering for how many millions?
poverty for how many million children to wait for the political conviences of a party hack?

One way or another, you are a Trump supporter.  I can accept that.

NO! but if you posted is the best the Left of the USA is going to aim for 'burn the shit hole down' and start again and what better way to 'Flip over the board' than electing Trump.

I am Annoyed enough at my sell out leaders! and they are not leading the western world, they do not have the power that whoever you elect will, yet either of the Rather Crappy Candiates we had to choose from a the other month were fuck tonnes Better than either one running in your election.

Veya wrote:I was thinking this the other day
the USA has such a weak social contract, it is not worth being a memeber of American Society.
What is the point at all? I dont see how the Average American gains anything from continuing in their current system.

Now do you see why I've started thinking so fondly of the Pacific States of America?  It's a smaller unit, where like-minded people can get together and form a bonding, as well as binding social contract.  We have nothing in common with the Midwest and/or the Eastern seaboard.  And we detest the south.  It just makes sense that we go on our way.

But in the meantime, I'm going to do the responsible thing and back the Democrat.

Veya wrote:NO! but if you posted is the best the Left of the USA is going to aim for 'burn the shit hole down' and start again and what better way to 'Flip over the board' than electing Trump.

I am Annoyed enough at my sell out leaders! and they are not leading the western world, they do not have the power that whoever you elect will, yet either of the Rather Crappy Candiates we had to choose from a the other month were fuck tonnes Better than either one running in your election.

but she's got one hell-of-a-work ethic for humanitarian services during her college - post college and since her marriage and still to this day.

Original Quill wrote:

Veya wrote:NO! but if you posted is the best the Left of the USA is going to aim for 'burn the shit hole down' and start again and what better way to 'Flip over the board' than electing Trump.

I am Annoyed enough at my sell out leaders! and they are not leading the western world, they do not have the power that whoever you elect will, yet either of the Rather Crappy Candiates we had to choose from a the other month were fuck tonnes Better than either one running in your election.

It’s difficult to discern what you are saying.  There are limited possibilities open to any of us.  The world is not our toy, to throw against the wall and break whenever we have a temper tantrum.

The DNC did not rig anything.  If it had, Debby Wasserman Shultz would not have been mucking around as she was.  It would have been already been wired.

Let’s face it.  Your guy didn’t get the votes.  That’s the way democracy works.  It’s like losing in sports.  You simply have to try harder next game.  Either that or retire and open an automobile dealership.

veya_victaous wrote:

but she's got one hell-of-a-work ethic for humanitarian services during her college - post college and since her marriage and still to this day.

Compelete BS, attempts to change the record.
she has a long standing record of sympathizing with Wall Street,
of ONLY supporting a social issues once they become the popular opinion.
She has been in the media since i was a teen SO yes I know about her I don't need to look up what I remeber happening, she has been Anti most of the Left wing movements that have existed in the past 25 years UNTIL they are battles won, She has Perpetually stood on the Conservative side of social Issues Until she Knew it was meida savy to Switch
I DESPISE People like that. Bandwagon jumping wastes of oxygen.

And Because I choose the policitans I support based on Logic, reason and most of all a personal long standing commitment to Helping People Not Corporations! and Not because a party head has said too. there is No way I could back one of the Individulas that have pushed hardest to have Corporate interests held higher than the good of the people.  

Veya wrote:Trump May be shit but at least no one is pretending he is not shit, even the republicans are going "this guy is nuts but he is who you wanted so here you go"

veya_victaous wrote:

"Designed to Block true Progressives"

so True.  

TOUCHÉ 

nicko wrote:Ain't it great when the left wing posters have a go at each other,  instead of bashing the right wing posters.

nicko wrote:Ain't it great when the left wing posters have a go at each other,  instead of bashing the right wing posters.

Original Quill wrote:

Veya wrote:Trump May be shit but at least no one is pretending he is not shit, even the republicans are going "this guy is nuts but he is who you wanted so here you go"

If you wanted genuineness, and don't care about content, Hitler would have been your man.  Fortunately, the rest of us do care about content.

You (we) are faced with the real hobson's choice: a choice of taking what is available or nothing at all.  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Hobson's%20choice  

What you are demonstrating is that, when faced with dismal options, you can throw a temper tantrum with the best of them

veya_victaous wrote:

Original Quill wrote:
If you wanted genuineness, and don't care about content, Hitler would have been your man.  Fortunately, the rest of us do care about content.

You (we) are faced with the real hobson's choice: a choice of taking what is available or nothing at all.  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Hobson's%20choice  

What you are demonstrating is that, when faced with dismal options, you can throw a temper tantrum with the best of them

Just like George Washington
What you are demonstrating is you would have kept paying the British Tea tax
VIVA LA REVOLUTION
     

4EVER2 wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

but she's got one hell-of-a-work ethic for humanitarian services during her college - post college and since her marriage and still to this day.

Compelete BS, attempts to change the record.
she has a long standing record of sympathizing with Wall Street,
of ONLY supporting a social issues once they become the popular opinion.
She has been in the media since i was a teen SO yes I know about her I don't need to look up what I remeber happening, she has been Anti most of the Left wing movements that have existed in the past 25 years UNTIL they are battles won, She has Perpetually stood on the Conservative side of social Issues Until she Knew it was meida savy to Switch
I DESPISE People like that. Bandwagon jumping wastes of oxygen.

And Because I choose the policitans I support based on Logic, reason and most of all a personal long standing commitment to Helping People Not Corporations! and Not because a party head has said too. there is No way I could back one of the Individulas that have pushed hardest to have Corporate interests held higher than the good of the people.  

WOW ...and you've just smashed my opinion of YOU!   
Now, I'll not worry or care what an overly wrought - hysterically ranting liite DUDE carries on about ...especially when your hysteria applies to any politic topic
You've jus validated the very reason why HRC is our best candidate and twisted your own know-nothing-f'd up-lame-excuse to act like YOU KNOW AND YOU HAVEN'T A CLUE

"I don't need to read" ...why of course you don't - but don't try to impress & lie to the adults that you use "LOGIC AND SOUND REASONING" - when you can't do one without the other

LAZY & LAME & and now you've just added LYING to you resume!  Great to know you've finally come clean ...I won't waste any more time since you can't be bothered to broaden that locked mine - closed shut with FALSE FACTS AND MORE F'D IDEOLOGY.