As Expected - Oculus Rift Is "Best of CES 2014"

14th January 2014

It's latest prototype, "Crystal Cove".  My god, life as we know it will change so much over the next 5 years.

Virtual reality has captured the imagination of developers, consumers and businesses for decades, but most VR headsets produced so far have been notable more for their limitations than their capabilities. With its latest prototype, code-named "Crystal Cove," Oculus VR has taken a massive leap forward, eliminating the stomach-churning motion blur that has plagued previous generations of VR headsets, and adding sensors and a camera to track the position of both your head and body and provide more accurate simulated movement. With the latest Rift, Oculus has created a device that may usher in an era of truly immersive gaming and entertainment, and even create new opportunities for businesses to use virtual reality in everything from manufacturing to medical environments. Of all the exciting, innovative products we've seen at CES this year, the Oculus Rift "Crystal Cove" prototype is unquestionably the best of the best.


http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/09/the-oculus-rift-crystal-cove-prototype-is-2014s-best-of-c/

Is the hd version available to buy yet ?

Korben Dallas wrote:Is the hd version available to buy yet ?

Nah.

We're waiting for "dev kit 2" - no dates on that at all.

Keep checking their website, although i'm just going to wait for the consumer version. I'll probably have to get a new graphics card to fuel that bad boy.

Did you ever get one? Lots of chat on the forum about Euro Truck Sim.

Take a look at this:




After all the time we've spent with Oculus VR's latest Crystal Cove prototype last week -- our first Best of CES award winner! -- you might think we're all VR'd out. You'd be wrong, and when the folks at GameFace Labs offered us a chance to check out their Android-based, standalone VR headset, we jumped at the chance.

The Mark IV model of GFL's unnamed headset is a 3D-printed proof of concept, and it serves that goal fantastically. We put on the headset, were handed a paired Bluetooth gamepad (Sony's DualShock 3) and were instantly transported to a lower-res version of the Tuscany demo we've seen running previously on the Rift. Only there's one major difference here: no wires.

http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/13/gameface-labs-hands-on-ces-2014/

BigAndy9 wrote:

Korben Dallas wrote:Is the hd version available to buy yet ?

Nah.

We're waiting for "dev kit 2" - no dates on that at all.

Keep checking their website, although i'm just going to wait for the consumer version.  I'll probably have to get a new graphics card to fuel that bad boy.

Did you ever get one?  Lots of chat on the forum about Euro Truck Sim.

I orderd the 1st one last year
But then read on the forum that the hd version would be out so i canceled it
I was hopeing to use it on war thunder within a few months but still waiting   

what is your graphics card ??
i bought Euro Truck Sim in prep only played it once so far waiting to get my hands on the rift  :D 

Korben Dallas wrote:

BigAndy9 wrote:

Nah.

We're waiting for "dev kit 2" - no dates on that at all.

Keep checking their website, although i'm just going to wait for the consumer version.  I'll probably have to get a new graphics card to fuel that bad boy.

Did you ever get one?  Lots of chat on the forum about Euro Truck Sim.

I orderd the 1st one last year
But then read on the forum that the hd version would be out so i canceled it
I was hopeing to use it on war thunder within a few months but still waiting   

Yeah - been playing War Thunder a lot - not on the Rift though - tried and it just isn't good enough yet.

You really should have got dev kit 1.

Too late now.

I've got an AMD 7700 series 1GB - cost £150 about 18 months ago - not sure exactly which model - it's no pussy but I want a real beauty for the Rift.

Oh - you do realise that the wait for the dev kit 1 for 8 months was about 2 - 3 months.

It's now 3 - 5 days.

Those bad boys were going for £500 - £700 on Ebay at one point because people were so desperate.

Keep a very close eye on the "order" button.

@andy

Euro Truck Sim..

          
That is NOT a Game, ( I know it is but why?)


I must admit I will get the HD consumer one for sure (possiblly DEVkit 2   )

BigAndy9 wrote:

Korben Dallas wrote:
I orderd the 1st one last year
But then read on the forum that the hd version would be out so i canceled it
I was hopeing to use it on war thunder within a few months but still waiting   

Yeah - been playing War Thunder a lot - not on the Rift though - tried and it just isn't good enough yet.

You really should have got dev kit 1.

Too late now.

I've got an AMD 7700 series 1GB - cost £150 about 18 months ago - not sure exactly which model - it's no pussy but I want a real beauty for the Rift.

Nivida Gtx550 TI in this machine

I don`t like AMD cards or processors are too prone to overheating
Intel all the way and Nividia cards for me

veya_victaous wrote:@andy

Euro Truck Sim..

          
That is NOT a Game, ( I know it is but why?)


I must admit I will get the HD consumer one for sure (possiblly DEVkit 2   )

Good question  ..
It's really weird playing it
Especially if your a driver in real life would make a good teaching tool i reckon on the rift

@KD
I can see it as a learning Sim,
but I would not have thought there is enough of a Market for it to be on Steam (it's not even cheap)
 :\\:[: :\\:[: :\\:[: :\\:[: 

I'm an Nvidia man myself too, thinking about replacing the old GTX460 (but pretty good in that only in the last 4 months have games come out that I haven't been able to run in 'ultra' graphics level. and its over 2 years old)

veya_victaous wrote:@KD
I can see it as a learning Sim,
but I would not have thought there is enough of a Market for it to be on Steam (it's not even cheap)
 :\\:[: :\\:[: :\\:[: :\\:[: 

I'm an Nvidia man myself too, thinking about replacing the old GTX460 (but pretty good in that only in the last 4 months have games come out that I haven't been able to run in 'ultra' graphics level. and its over 2 years old)

€7.99 is cheap that's what I paid
but if you think about it
i played warcraft for about 3 years £8 a month i think
i am playing war thunder and have spent about £80 so far

That's the way games are going to go cheap to buy expensive to get to the higher levels quickly
Basically moving to the app price model

veya_victaous wrote:@KD
I can see it as a learning Sim,
but I would not have thought there is enough of a Market for it to be on Steam (it's not even cheap)
 :\\:[: :\\:[: :\\:[: :\\:[: 

I'm an Nvidia man myself too, thinking about replacing the old GTX460 (but pretty good in that only in the last 4 months have games come out that I haven't been able to run in 'ultra' graphics level. and its over 2 years old)

whats your preformance rating ?

Can get a bit slow with loading, got an i5 and 8gb ramm so normally pretty good in game.
I need to get myself an SSD too, the HDD is slowest thing in my system at the moment. (at work now so not 100% on number)

True about the game models changing but I dont mind it in some games (it is all about balance I think 'War of the Roses' has it right, putting in real money will save you time grinding for in game cash but you still need to complete a number of hours before everything is availble. nothing can not be earnt with enough time and any of the really expensive items are just cosmetic changes)

I have been playing 'ROME2: total war' recently and it is pushing my system to the limit.

Q6600 core 2 2.40ghz
8gig DDR3
120 gig SSD boots in to win 7 64bit in about 15 seconds :-)
Not the greatest machine in the world, 6.8 performance index, but I stopped chasing upgrades years ago.

Like the exalcoholc running a pub  ::drnkpst::

@KD
I think mine is only like 5.7 because of the lack of SSD.

I'm lucky I can claim a fair bit back in tax (IT contractor) plus I just give my old parts to my mum.

veya_victaous wrote:@KD
I think mine is only like 5.7 because of the lack of SSD.

I'm lucky I can claim a fair bit back in tax (IT contractor) plus I just give my old parts to my mum.

Lol it used to be i gave my old parts to my son now its the other way round

your an IT contractor veya

it what capacity ?

If I understand the way American`s refer to things correctly, then I guess I am the same

ie computer hardware ,networks, telecoms engineer with some programming experience (having dyslexia and dyscalculia killed that)

2 years of electronics

yada yada yada

I'm Aussie,
I work in Educational IT mainly for the public school system (have worked for the Catholics too), mainly do project work now, done all the support stuff before. I was pretty lucky to be involved in the Digital Education Revolution (DER) which basically was a program that gave all Senior High students laptops and meant putting in infrastructure to support it (that where i got my foot in)

I'm a bit of a jack of all trades, management like me and just move me to where they need it.
Currently in Apps Packaging, we are getting ready to role out SCCM2013  ::%::  .

veya_victaous wrote:I'm Aussie,
I work in Educational IT mainly for the public school system (have worked for the Catholics too), mainly do project work now, done all the support stuff before. I was pretty lucky to be involved in the Digital Education Revolution (DER) which basically was a program that gave all Senior High students laptops and meant putting in infrastructure to support it (that where i got my foot in)

I'm a bit of a jack of all trades, management like me and just move me to where they need it.
Currently in Apps Packaging, we are getting ready to role out SCCM2013  ::%::  .

Sorry mate
sounds cool
i got into computers all most 35 years ago first as a hobby, but kept it up trough all my various jobs but i always came back to computers
Often People would ask me to fix them and a business just developed from that and that's what i do now fix computers install networks ect
i am lucky i can do that from home for the most part and is the reason i am up all night ,mostly i am working till 5 6 in the morning but it varies depending on the work load

Tonight I am replacing a hard drive in two laptops and reinstalling while trying to get my funcube dongle to work  :D 

@KD
I'm also only 30   
I got into Computers trying to play Prince of Persia and Dune on an old 386.   
learnt to pull it apart and but it back together by the time I was 10. I think I am probably in the first generation to have computers my whole life, Old enough to remember the Atari and Amiga but really Learnt on IBMs and windows 3.1 up.

veya_victaous wrote:Can get a bit slow with loading, got an i5 and 8gb ramm so normally pretty good in game.
I need to get myself an SSD too, the HDD is slowest thing in my system at the moment. (at work now so not 100% on number)

True about the game models changing but I dont mind it in some games (it is all about balance I think 'War of the Roses' has it right, putting in real money will save you time grinding for in game cash but you still need to complete a number of hours before everything is availble. nothing can not be earnt with enough time and any of the really expensive items are just cosmetic changes)

I have been playing 'ROME2: total war' recently and it is pushing my system to the limit.

lol no SSD?

What were you thinking, boy?!

@andy
it's almost 3 years old. they were too dear / not enough capacity when I built it.

I've been umming and arring    on whether to upgrade or buy my self an ultrabook (spend about 2 hours a day on the train commuting) but I want touch screen win8.1 (for work, wont be long before we role them out.. should learn them   ) but I know to get decent usage I need at least 1GB dedicated graphics (prefer 2GB...gaming   ) and 16GB of ram would also be good (I have to run virtual machines to try an simulate 'errors' as part of my job   ) and that is still a little too dear, about AU$2000. I was in the Computer markets last week... that was a mistake because now I am also considering phablets (my phones pretty old too) and convertibles         

I'm on it now so I have just looked 5.9 but the next lowest is 7.3 (processor & ram) 7.5 on both the graphics scores. I also use a 42 inch LED TV as monitor (HDMI) so like I said generally it is alright. And For years I was always making my PCs by cannibalising broken ones I got my hands on, only twice have I actually paid up the money to get a decent gaming rig, this one and one when I was 15 with my first job. So I can put up with a sub-par machines (one of the joys of growing up poor is    low expectations)

veya_victaous wrote:@KD
I'm also only 30   
I got into Computers trying to play Prince of Persia and Dune on an old 386.   
learnt to pull it apart and but it back together by the time I was 10. I think I am probably in the first generation to have computers my whole life, Old enough to remember the Atari and Amiga but really Learnt on IBMs and windows 3.1 up.

i started with the  Z80 and Z80A and have had every major and some minor computers that never really caught  ever since .

god i remember all those disks to install win 3.1 especially hated  it when half way trough the disk read failed and you had to start again   loved the amiga and had nearly every model built used to connect them with parnet cables Ataris spectrums QL BBC still have my zx81 and amiga 500 + and 1200


Sigh

i remember i swapped the memory out of the external hard drive 8mb for a ibm
Memory was worth its weight in gold back then
good days good days

Also I did think ahead, I have a RAID10 card in it and 7.1 surround sound (but currently both under utilised). I wasn't sure if I would get back into gaming (stopped playing much when I was at Uni but at 27 wasn't up for hitting the clubs EVERY weekend    ) but knew I would at least use it as a media centre, which whack a couple more drives (8 max only 2 in at the moment) and this would still be a kick ass media centre.   

P.S. As it turns out I did get back into gaming      

Already is used for porn.

veya_victaous wrote:Also I did think ahead, I have a RAID10 card in it and 7.1 surround sound (but currently both under utilised). I wasn't sure if I would get back into gaming (stopped playing much when I was at Uni but at 27 wasn't up for hitting the clubs EVERY weekend    ) but knew I would at least use it as a media centre, which whack a couple more drives (8 max only 2 in at the moment) and this would still be a kick ass media centre.   

P.S. As it turns out I did get back into gaming      

i have 6 computers 2 servers 4 raspberry pies connected to tv`s reading from about 8Tb storage software radio ,i can track plane and ship communications and telemetry with weather station feeding a web site and the met office i could go on but i wont

i am a geek   

краљица од Хартс wrote:Already is used for porn.

Every thing eventually is QH   Every thing eventually is

@KD
some of my earliest computing memories are playing an Amiga 500  :D  SO much fun when my friend dads used to let us play      I cant remember the name but the one where you had like a jeep and a helicopter  (side scroll)was my favourite.
We also spent hours watching him playing dune, so when my dad was given a computer it was something I strived to get running and learnt a lot in the process (like you cant    not enough memory, by the time I convinced my dad for an upgrade Dune 2 was out.. I got that working   )

That's why I am quite partial to a lot of the Indie games now that try and recreate/innovate older game design

Miami Hotline is like Pixel Art (very brutal bloody pixel art ::rambo::  )

PLUS
Don't feel too bad (your a nerd not a geek by the way   WE nerds are smarter) I have just managed to get 6 books in my 100+ year old book collection (much harder here, my brother tripled my collection :D coming back from Europe last week) and have an old school radio that can (or could   ) pick up Ship and aircraft signals (it has leather, very steam punk  :::grouch:: )

@QoH
hey       with out porn the internet would never have taken off      

Oh, you ladies just can not imagine how good the porn is when you're in the Rift...


 :D 

veya_victaous wrote:@andy
it's almost 3 years old. they were too dear / not enough capacity when I built it.

I've been umming and arring     on whether to upgrade or buy my self an ultrabook (spend about 2 hours a day on the train commuting) but I want touch screen win8.1 (for work, wont be long before we role them out.. should learn them   ) but I know to get decent usage I need at least 1GB dedicated graphics (prefer 2GB...gaming   ) and 16GB of ram would also be good (I have to run virtual machines to try an simulate 'errors' as part of my job   ) and that is still a little too dear, about AU$2000. I was in the Computer markets last week... that was a mistake because now I am also considering phablets (my phones pretty old too) and convertibles         

I'm on it now so I have just looked 5.9 but the next lowest is 7.3 (processor & ram) 7.5 on both the graphics scores. I also use a 42 inch LED TV as monitor (HDMI) so like I said generally it is alright. And For years I was always making my PCs by cannibalising broken ones I got my hands on, only twice have I actually paid up the money to get a decent gaming rig, this one and one when I was 15 with my first job. So I can put up with a sub-par machines (one of the joys of growing up poor is    low expectations)

veya - do you have a wife, children? A house?

BigAndy9 wrote:Oh, you ladies just can not imagine how good the porn is when you're in the Rift...


 :D 

It's shit.

краљица од Хартс wrote:

BigAndy9 wrote:Oh, you ladies just can not imagine how good the porn is when you're in the Rift...


 :D 

It's shit.

Oh dear, there's another who doesn't have a clue   

BigAndy9 wrote:Oh, you ladies just can not imagine how good the porn is when you're in the Rift...


 :D 

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@andy
Nope to all 3,
Trying to get a house at the moment but Sydney house prices are fucking stupid. I need literally 1 million dollars to live within half an hour of work (one way, under 20km). And half a million pushes you out to where I live now (renting granny flat off parents  ) about an hour away (40km), but the on worse side (parents house would be about 650,000 now  ). The bank says I can afford $400,000 but would need a extra $200 a week (i.e. I'd have to rent a room or 2  ) which puts me 20 mins further away (50-60km), I'm down to like $350,000 if I don't want to have to rent rooms which basically isn't possible     2 hours (80-100km) away maybe, but it starts to become bigger semi rural properties so there is still not much in my price range.
In my line of work it is all in the big cities, recently up skilled and got the new position now just waiting on the pay rise ::%:: was doing server ops for about 3 years before changing to Apps Packing and Dev at the beginning of the year (still part of the same larger project team), I have no professional experience programing so I got to prove myself for 3 months but the scale of the systems are huge, (largest wireless network in the southern hemisphere, rolled out 240,000 windows 7 laptops to students) and they have been having trouble filling the position (either not up to scratch or decided it was too hard for the money) so the team leader asked if I would be interested (apparently I have done more work in 2 weeks than the last guy did in 6,   Always good when they notice   )

SO Hopefully 3 months and I will have some options.

Honestly I do want kids but not ready for them (a house would be a good start  ) And I have 2 very cute little dogs ::-3:: ::-3::  that help break the ice with ladies ::%::     

@QoH
Into Scat hey      whatever takes your fancy   

That's a shame - I was gonna recommend selling one of them to buy a couple of SSD's and a Rift


  

veya_victaous wrote:@KD
some of my earliest computing memories are playing an Amiga 500  :D  SO much fun when my friend dads used to let us play      I cant remember the name but the one where you had like a jeep and a helicopter  (side scroll)was my favourite.
We also spent hours watching him playing dune, so when my dad was given a computer it was something I strived to get running and learnt a lot in the process (like you cant    not enough memory, by the time I convinced my dad for an upgrade Dune 2 was out.. I got that working   )

That's why I am quite partial to a lot of the Indie games now that try and recreate/innovate older game design

Miami Hotline is like Pixel Art (very brutal bloody pixel art ::rambo::  )

PLUS
Don't feel too bad (your a nerd not a geek by the way   WE nerds are smarter) I have just managed to get 6 books in my 100+ year old book collection (much harder here, my brother tripled my collection  :D coming back from Europe last week)  and have an old school radio that can (or could   ) pick up Ship and aircraft signals (it has leather, very steam punk  :::grouch:: )

@QoH
hey       with out porn the internet would never have taken off      

i played dune a lot as well and manic miner the as well as old xcom terror from the deep i think it was called
opus dir and octi-med  was what I used a lot
we did a lot of blue boxing as well, jumping satellite communications signals in to South America than in to BB in the states all for free

We use to build a lot of things in those days plug it to see if it worked.... Dam.......... Replace the CIA chips and tried again
God to think how many we got through....... scarery looking back, but it was fun
i still have the roms somewhere
i remember we used to blow the CIA chips constantly  


oh what fun

OK, some questions about the Rift:

1) How heavy is it? Just looking at the picture at the top gives me a neck-ache.

2) Does it fill your field of vision completely, or are you still basically looking at a quadrangle, just really close to your eyes?

3) Is the porn really that great?

:D

Ben_Reilly wrote:OK, some questions about the Rift:

1) How heavy is it? Just looking at the picture at the top gives me a neck-ache.

2) Does it fill your field of vision completely, or are you still basically looking at a quadrangle, just really close to your eyes?

3) Is the porn really that great?

:D

It isn't heavy at all, and this is the dev kit. They have said that one of the targets is to bring the weight down. Unlike some of the earlier ones from the 90s all the weight is not on your nose - the skiing goggle style is very comfortable and I am happy wearing it for 1 hour+. If you go to the forums there are people going 12 hours+ in the Rift.

It doesn't fill it completely, but it is so much better than anything that has been there before. You will only notice something wrong with your peripheral vision if you go looking for it. I don't notice it to be honest.

Yes.

Remember, this will change your world (if you're under 50).

Latest article, in the Daily Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2543841/Oculus-Rift-exhibit-lets-couples-swap-bodies.html

That sounds mind-bending! From your source: "It can be used to promote empathy, for example, or increase understanding of differences." That has to be a good thing.

Ben_Reilly wrote:That sounds mind-bending! From your source: "It can be used to promote empathy, for example, or increase understanding of differences." That has to be a good thing.

Well it aint going on my head then!

Because I'm too empathiedidid as it is!


  


As most people are saying in their comments - why the feck would I wanna see my own body, I wanna see the chick I'm shagging!