Parents Who Separate Are Horrible

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14th January 2014



Britain should be more “judgemental” and criticise parents who split up, a senior Conservative MP has said.


Family breakdown is costing the taxpayer tens of billions of pounds a year and people should not be afraid to condemn couples who separate, Sir Gerald Howarth said.


Cases such that of Raymond Hull, the drug-dealing father of 22 children by 11 women who was spared jail this week, are being seen on a smaller scale across the country – including in prosperous areas such as his seat of Aldershot in Hampshire, Sir Gerald said.


Bishops should spend less attacking Government welfare reforms and be “more vocal of their condemnation” of marital breakdown, he added. Traditional stay-at-home mothers have been "belittled for far too long", he added.


“The men who father these children seem to have absolutely no interest in bringing them up, let alone paying for them. We cannot afford to continue subsidising people who live these kind of dysfunctional lifestyles,” Sir Gerald, a former defence minister, said during a Westminster Hall debate in Parliament on supporting married couples.


He went on: “Am I being judgemental in an age when such approach is deemed inappropriate? Of course I’m being judgemental! For the sake of the country, we need to be judgmental. Besides, there are plenty of people who never cease to be judgmental about Members of Parliament.”

Research suggests children with separated parents are more likely to live in poverty, more likely to suffer from behavioural disorders and more likely to commit crime or abuse drugs, Sir Gerald said, costing the state £40bn a year.

He added: “Some will say that in a free society people should be entitled to live any lifestyle they want. However, overwhelmingly it is the taxpayer who is picking up the tab, so the state cannot be an idle bystander.”

The number of marriages fell since the Second World War to a 150-year low in 2009, but has picked up slightly in recent years.

In 2012 a record 47.5 per cent of children were born outside of marriage, up from 25 per cent in 1988 and 11 per cent in 1979. On current trends, more than half of babies will be born to unmarried parents by 2016.

The proportion of marriages that end in divorce has fallen since 2000, with more than a third breaking up before the 20th wedding anniversary. The decline is blamed on more people cohabiting before they marry, filtering out weak relationships.

Sir Edward Leigh, MP for Gainsborough, said family breakdown had become a “modern plague”.

He blamed a “conspiracy of silence” perpetrated by the Church, the BBC, Parliament and the Press that discouraged people from speaking up for marriage. It has left hundreds of thousands of children “living a tragic life,” he said.

“In our permissive society a view has grown up that people are happiest if they are totally liberated. It is about ‘me’,” he said. “We are told Britain has changed and we have to accept it but don’t we have a responsibility to speak out for what’s right?”


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10572667/Actually-we-should-judge-separated-parents-say-Tory-MPs.html

Firstly I have clearly separated out abuse cases from the start.

Secondly you might call the stats negligible but all the agencies in charge of policy and working with children consider them significant.

sphinx wrote:Firstly I have clearly separated out abuse cases from the start.

Secondly you might call the stats negligible but all the agencies in charge of policy and working with children consider them significant.

That is the point though, it is not a separate issue, just because you decide it is, it goes hand in hand with many difficult relationship problems.

The stats are negligible in the overall picture as seen the vast majority of both single and couple parents do raise kids very well.

I really do not care what some agencies think, some agencies think you should not lightly smack children, it does not mean their views are right, that is just the present view some have, again to me showing how they are allowing negligible stats to sway their views on on this to lasting damaging affect!

BigAndy9 wrote:

Catman wrote:
If the parents are arguing and fighting, which then starts to become violent, then it's best for the kids that they separate imo.

No, it's best to sort out what is wrong in the relationship, stop fighting, talk like adults.

And before popping babies out because you have nothing better to do, have a real relationship, think long and hard, get a job, grow up a lot!!!

   THE welfare of the children involved obviously means nothing to BigAndy...

THE first "father" mentioned in that story could NEVER have had any genuine "relationships" with the ELEVEN mothers of his TWENTY TWO offspring ~ more likely he had 22 "wham, bam, thank-you ma'am !" liaison's with his 'hanger-on' gang molls..  
Another small matter that appears to have escaped Andy's attention !  

The O/P is simply another "belt-the-welfare-recipients" wind_up from one of the leading Tory "lapdog" gutter rags..