Nice attacker had 'little interest in religion,' no known links to terrorists

The man responsible for Thursday’s murderous attack in Nice was a violent petty criminal unknown to the French security services, who was born in Tunisia but had been living and working in the coastal city, prosecutors have said.

Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel, a 31-year-old delivery driver and father, was shot dead by police after killing 84 people, including 10 children and teenagers, and injuring scores more in a deadly Bastille Day rampage.

Despite a criminal record dating from his first conviction in March this year, Lahouaiej-Bouhlel was not known by French or Tunisian officials to have links to terrorist organisations and was said by neighbours to have had little apparent interest in religion.

Echoing the remarks of French officials, security sources in Tunisia said he was not known by the Tunisian authorities to hold radical or Islamist views.

At a packed press conference, the Paris prosecutor François Molins said Lahouaiej-Bouhlel had been “completely unknown to both France’s domestic and foreign intelligence officials”. But he added: “Although yesterday’s attack has not been claimed, this sort of thing fits in perfectly with calls for murder from such terrorist organisations.”

eddie wrote:Just out of interest, what would happen to a nice "booming", (and I mean "booming" in that everything is running smoothly and food and water isn't scarce), African village if immigrant White, black and Asian man, were to arrive and want to live among them?

The thought occurred to me as I read through this thread: would it be better, or worse and better or worse, for whom?

Tommy Monk wrote:If immigration is such a great thing then conversely, the places where the people are coming from must be suffering from it...

Ben Reilly wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:If immigration is such a great thing then conversely, the places where the people are coming from must be suffering from it...

They do, to a certain extent:

http://mashable.com/2016/06/24/brain-drain-science-brexit-referendum/#.4k6zYlioZqt

Then again, the usual model for immigration is people leaving poor countries and earning better salaries in wealthier countries. They then send some money back home, which does help their home country.

Ben Reilly wrote:

eddie wrote:Just out of interest, what would happen to a nice "booming", (and I mean "booming" in that everything is running smoothly and food and water isn't scarce), African village if immigrant White, black and Asian man, were to arrive and want to live among them?

The thought occurred to me as I read through this thread: would it be better, or worse and better or worse, for whom?

Well, it would depend upon what the immigrants could contribute. And that takes us into the debate over what immigrants have contributed to the UK. Of course, all they do is get on the dole, according to some ...

eddie wrote:Everytime you say "waffle", Tommy, you remind me of a guy who, when he got really, really, drunk, would stand there outside a burger stand and say...."Buuurgggeerrrrr"

So instead of "waffle" try "burger"

HoratioTarr wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

nicko wrote:And you wonder why most Brit posters on here think your full of SHIT, with your constant repeating of your favourite put down,"Hill Shepherds"

Just why do you think your better than every one else?      Your not,  just a poster who's head is full of ME ME ME.

Shut your mouth and give your arse a chance!!

yeah i was only using hillshepherd to try not to include all Brits
but Fuck it

Since only les and Sassy are left (off the top of my head) as 'Brits with a brain'

YES I AM BETTER
NO QUESTION
WHY? CAUSE YOU ARE COWARDS SCARED OF THE FUTURE

I have no problem telling you, yes.
IF that is your opinon than, I am better than you
And the fact you are so pathetic when it comes to accepting the Uks faults, NO wonder people like YOU have sent it down the toilet!!
Cant face reality so cant address any issues.
Pathetic, Stick your fingers in your ears and Just pretend your still even 'good'. cause claims of the Best are Fucking Laughable.

So YES I am many times Better, than obsolete Rubbish like you or Any Moron that Voted Brexit.
that is just a fact.

I mean YOU asked a Question and GOT THE ANSWER but to soft and weak to accept it.
WHY do we talk about what you did 150 years ago? Cause THAT IS WHAT HAS CAUSED WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW!!!

So by that yardstick,  I guess the White Australia Policy is why Oz now has tough asylum policies?

eddie wrote:Just out of interest, what would happen to a nice "booming", (and I mean "booming" in that everything is running smoothly and food and water isn't scarce), African village if immigrant White, black and Asian man, were to arrive and want to live among them?

The thought occurred to me as I read through this thread: would it be better, or worse and better or worse, for whom?

eddie wrote:Okay now would it be possible to just use my hypothetical scenario and answer it without saying all the useless and needless stuff, you just said?

veya_victaous wrote:

HoratioTarr wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

nicko wrote:And you wonder why most Brit posters on here think your full of SHIT, with your constant repeating of your favourite put down,"Hill Shepherds"

Just why do you think your better than every one else?      Your not,  just a poster who's head is full of ME ME ME.

Shut your mouth and give your arse a chance!!

yeah i was only using hillshepherd to try not to include all Brits
but Fuck it

Since only les and Sassy are left (off the top of my head) as 'Brits with a brain'

YES I AM BETTER
NO QUESTION
WHY? CAUSE YOU ARE COWARDS SCARED OF THE FUTURE

I have no problem telling you, yes.
IF that is your opinon than, I am better than you
And the fact you are so pathetic when it comes to accepting the Uks faults, NO wonder people like YOU have sent it down the toilet!!
Cant face reality so cant address any issues.
Pathetic, Stick your fingers in your ears and Just pretend your still even 'good'. cause claims of the Best are Fucking Laughable.

So YES I am many times Better, than obsolete Rubbish like you or Any Moron that Voted Brexit.
that is just a fact.

I mean YOU asked a Question and GOT THE ANSWER but to soft and weak to accept it.
WHY do we talk about what you did 150 years ago? Cause THAT IS WHAT HAS CAUSED WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW!!!

So by that yardstick,  I guess the White Australia Policy is why Oz now has tough asylum policies?

Yes actually
there is way too many Anglos down here because of it
they are a problem
with their xenophobia racism and whinging
there culture is incompatable with mordern australia
we need to send all the racist xenophobs back.

veya_victaous wrote:

eddie wrote:Okay now would it be possible to just use my hypothetical scenario and answer it without saying all the useless and needless stuff, you just said?

Nope cause that other stuff is the CRITICAL part
that you(the average Brit)  keeps ignoring and Your ignoring it is Causeing the issues you are whinging about

Its hypothetical BECAUSE it doesn't exist, BECAUSE of what has been done to Africa In the Past By Europeans.
So even to Suggest it as a hypothetical is Offensive.

You steal someone's shoes and then 2 day later Ask them Why they dont have Shoes? while you are wearing the shoes you stole...
Do you want to Spit in their faces too?

How About the UK stop comparing it's self to 3rd world nations that may only be decades out of Harsh Colonial Rule Raping them.
Cause You are not supposed to Aim for the lowest point, But since you are i have to ask WHY do you think You wont become 3rd world too?

Compare yourself to Australian, New Zealand, Singapore, Canada etc
nations that are successful, progessive, growing and have dealt with pretty much all the social issue the Uk has now in the past.

veya_victaous wrote:

eddie wrote:Okay now would it be possible to just use my hypothetical scenario and answer it without saying all the useless and needless stuff, you just said?

Nope cause that other stuff is the CRITICAL part
that you(the average Brit)  keeps ignoring and Your ignoring it is Causeing the issues you are whinging about

Its hypothetical BECAUSE it doesn't exist, BECAUSE of what has been done to Africa In the Past By Europeans.
So even to Suggest it as a hypothetical is Offensive.

You steal someone's shoes and then 2 day later Ask them Why they dont have Shoes? while you are wearing the shoes you stole...
Do you want to Spit in their faces too?

How About the UK stop comparing it's self to 3rd world nations that may only be decades out of Harsh Colonial Rule Raping them.
Cause You are not supposed to Aim for the lowest point, But since you are i have to ask WHY do you think You wont become 3rd world too?

Compare yourself to Australian, New Zealand, Singapore, Canada etc
nations that are successful, progessive, growing and have dealt with pretty much all the social issue the Uk has now in the past.

eddie wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

eddie wrote:Okay now would it be possible to just use my hypothetical scenario and answer it without saying all the useless and needless stuff, you just said?

Nope cause that other stuff is the CRITICAL part
that you(the average Brit)  keeps ignoring and Your ignoring it is Causeing the issues you are whinging about

Its hypothetical BECAUSE it doesn't exist, BECAUSE of what has been done to Africa In the Past By Europeans.
So even to Suggest it as a hypothetical is Offensive.

You steal someone's shoes and then 2 day later Ask them Why they dont have Shoes? while you are wearing the shoes you stole...
Do you want to Spit in their faces too?

How About the UK stop comparing it's self to 3rd world nations that may only be decades out of Harsh Colonial Rule Raping them.
Cause You are not supposed to Aim for the lowest point, But since you are i have to ask WHY do you think You wont become 3rd world too?

Compare yourself to Australian, New Zealand, Singapore, Canada etc
nations that are successful, progessive, growing and have dealt with pretty much all the social issue the Uk has now in the past.

What you going to bleat on about if it doesn't become this third world country?

Do you realise you're basically saying "if you don't stay part of th EU gang then the rest of the world gang will fuck you over"?

Do you realise that's paramount to bullying?

veya_victaous wrote:

eddie wrote:


What you going to bleat on about if it doesn't become this third world country?

Do you realise you're basically saying "if you don't stay part of th EU gang then the rest of the world gang will fuck you over"?

Do you realise that's paramount to bullying?

YOU DO REASLISE THAT IS EXACTLY HOW YOU NATION GOT THE MONEY IT HAS!!!!! Except with FAR FUCKING MORE KILLING !!!

SO YES Eddie we are going to Gang up and fuck you over like You did, like every nation does to any nation that is weakening
REAL FUCKING LIFE.
No different than the Savahana, the UK is now the Bleeding Bison

@Raggs
I know that why i call you fucking Hill shepherds!!!!!
and thats why we are going to take EVERYTHING off you
Like You showed us to do!!!
to those that are too weak and don't pay enough attention to other nations.
If How you founded the Empire Remeber

veya_victaous wrote:

eddie wrote:


What you going to bleat on about if it doesn't become this third world country?

Do you realise you're basically saying "if you don't stay part of th EU gang then the rest of the world gang will fuck you over"?

Do you realise that's paramount to bullying?

YOU DO REASLISE THAT IS EXACTLY HOW YOU NATION GOT THE MONEY IT HAS!!!!! Except with FAR FUCKING MORE KILLING !!!

SO YES Eddie we are going to Gang up and fuck you over like You did, like every nation does to any nation that is weakening
REAL FUCKING LIFE.
No different than the Savahana, the UK is now the Bleeding Bison

@Raggs
I know that why i call you fucking Hill shepherds!!!!!
and thats why we are going to take EVERYTHING off you
Like You showed us to do!!!
to those that are too weak and don't pay enough attention to other nations.
If How you founded the Empire Remeber

Tommy Monk wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

eddie wrote:


What you going to bleat on about if it doesn't become this third world country?

Do you realise you're basically saying "if you don't stay part of th EU gang then the rest of the world gang will fuck you over"?

Do you realise that's paramount to bullying?

YOU DO REASLISE THAT IS EXACTLY HOW YOU NATION GOT THE MONEY IT HAS!!!!! Except with FAR FUCKING MORE KILLING !!!

SO YES Eddie we are going to Gang up and fuck you over like You did, like every nation does to any nation that is weakening
REAL FUCKING LIFE.
No different than the Savahana, the UK is now the Bleeding Bison

@Raggs
I know that why i call you fucking Hill shepherds!!!!!
and thats why we are going to take EVERYTHING off you
Like You showed us to do!!!
to those that are too weak and don't pay enough attention to other nations.
If How you founded the Empire Remeber

Are these views really acceptable from an admin here to be spouting...!?

Tommy Monk wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:

eddie wrote:


What you going to bleat on about if it doesn't become this third world country?

Do you realise you're basically saying "if you don't stay part of th EU gang then the rest of the world gang will fuck you over"?

Do you realise that's paramount to bullying?

YOU DO REASLISE THAT IS EXACTLY HOW YOU NATION GOT THE MONEY IT HAS!!!!! Except with FAR FUCKING MORE KILLING !!!

SO YES Eddie we are going to Gang up and fuck you over like You did, like every nation does to any nation that is weakening
REAL FUCKING LIFE.
No different than the Savahana, the UK is now the Bleeding Bison

@Raggs
I know that why i call you fucking Hill shepherds!!!!!
and thats why we are going to take EVERYTHING off you
Like You showed us to do!!!
to those that are too weak and don't pay enough attention to other nations.
If How you founded the Empire Remeber

Are these views really acceptable from an admin here to be spouting...!?

Beya Reictaous wrote:Do you realize that forcing its will on other nations is how the UK became prosperous in the first place? Except it accomplished most of that not by the pen, but by the sword, in its bloody colonial conquests.

So yes, Eddie, the rest of the world is going to exploit the UK as the UK exploited other countries, because that's what the world does to places no longer strong enough to fight back. It's a dog-eat-dog world, after all.

@Raggs
Your attitude that the UK should withdraw from global affairs is precisely why I call you a term that here means "provincial and isolationist people."
And while the UK is abdicating its role in the global economy, the rest of the world is going to jump in and snap up everything it could have had.
It's the strategy that the British used in creating its once-global empire, and the rest of the world has learned the lesson.

Ben Reilly wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:


Are these views really acceptable from an admin here to be spouting...!?

If I can provide a slightly cooler-headed translation -- Veya, feel free to correct me if I've missed anything:

Beya Reictaous wrote:Do you realize that forcing its will on other nations is how the UK became prosperous in the first place? Except it accomplished most of that not by the pen, but by the sword, in its bloody colonial conquests.

So yes, Eddie, the rest of the world is going to exploit the UK as the UK exploited other countries, because that's what the world does to places no longer strong enough to fight back. It's a dog-eat-dog world, after all.

@Raggs
Your attitude that the UK should withdraw from global affairs is precisely why I call you a term that here means "provincial and isolationist people."
And while the UK is abdicating its role in the global economy, the rest of the world is going to jump in and snap up everything it could have had.
It's the strategy that the British used in creating its once-global empire, and the rest of the world has learned the lesson.

I think he makes a good point, and I personally think all the objection is to his tone, not the substance of what he said.

eddie wrote:Well nice try Ben but.....

Ben Reilly wrote:

eddie wrote:Well nice try Ben but.....

But ... ?

eddie wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

eddie wrote:Well nice try Ben but.....

But ... ?

I don't think you needed to interpret Veya's post. It spoke for itself.

Ben Reilly wrote:

eddie wrote:


I don't think you needed to interpret Veya's post. It spoke for itself.

Apparently not. Veya made a point and because he was frustrated and angry when he wrote it, we've had several people call for him to be sacked as an admin.

He has the same right to self-expression as anybody else here does, right? You don't see anybody asking for Major to be banned for advocating his white separatist agenda, for example.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

eddie wrote:


I don't think you needed to interpret Veya's post. It spoke for itself.

Apparently not. Veya made a point and because he was frustrated and angry when he wrote it, we've had several people call for him to be sacked as an admin.

He has the same right to self-expression as anybody else here does, right? You don't see anybody asking for Major to be banned for advocating his white separatist agenda, for example.

He was extremely abusive and nasty. It's not a new thing - he's been abusive about Brits/English people for ages, and he makes it personal. He has nothing to be angry about - he's in Australia.

Ben Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

He was extremely abusive and nasty. It's not a new thing - he's been abusive about Brits/English people for ages, and he makes it personal. He has nothing to be angry about - he's in Australia.

Why, because he kept dropping the F-bomb? Or he called the UK "you" when talking to a British person? Or because he used vivid imagery when talking about what the British Empire has done to other cultures, and how that's about to happen to the UK (albeit with no bloodshed)?

Admit it -- you didn't like what he said, it hurt your extremely bloated national pride, and you and a few others ganged up and decided to call for his head. And I'm not having it. Y'all are always bleating about your freedom of speech, well, it works both ways.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

He was extremely abusive and nasty. It's not a new thing - he's been abusive about Brits/English people for ages, and he makes it personal. He has nothing to be angry about - he's in Australia.

Why, because he kept dropping the F-bomb? Or he called the UK "you" when talking to a British person? Or because he used vivid imagery when talking about what the British Empire has done to other cultures, and how that's about to happen to the UK (albeit with no bloodshed)?

Admit it -- you didn't like what he said, it hurt your extremely bloated national pride, and you and a few others ganged up and decided to call for his head. And I'm not having it. Y'all are always bleating about your freedom of speech, well, it works both ways.

His post was nasty in anyone's eyes. As an English Brit, I don't need the approval of a jumped-up Aussie, and I don't need your approval either. It's just hypocritical of you to criticise others and yet defend Veya's indefensible posts.

Ben Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

His post was nasty in anyone's eyes. As an English Brit, I don't need the approval of a jumped-up Aussie, and I don't need your approval either. It's just hypocritical of you to criticise others and yet defend Veya's indefensible posts.

Sorry, I think you misunderstand -- I wasn't offering any approval. Veya's post was quite defensible, and I did it a few posts up. You're just butthurt.

eddie wrote:It isn't about someone's views, it's about the way they're expressed.

Raggamuffin wrote:

eddie wrote:It isn't about someone's views, it's about the way they're expressed.

Well you clearly think that Veya's gone off his head too.

Raggamuffin wrote:

eddie wrote:It isn't about someone's views, it's about the way they're expressed.

Well you clearly think that Veya's gone off his head too.

Ben Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Well you clearly think that Veya's gone off his head too.

That's taking a pretty damn big leap!

Veya you are seriously losing the plot and quite frankly, you're becoming like the wild, crazy man who runs around shouting every day; you're not even a novelty anymore.

eddie wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

eddie wrote:It isn't about someone's views, it's about the way they're expressed.

Well you clearly think that Veya's gone off his head too.

I think he's getting boring, I've told him so. He seems to spam the threads, no matter what the subject, about Great British Fuck Ups.

I was never the one for wanting a ban on anything said. I am all for free speech. He can say what he likes it doesn't bother me what he thinks, he has a right to say it and I have a right to tell him he's a knob.

It's a shame because I don't mind him. He writes some pretty good posts when he's not blathering on.

Ben Reilly wrote:

eddie wrote:

I think he's getting boring, I've told him so. He seems to spam the threads, no matter what the subject, about Great British Fuck Ups.

I was never the one for wanting a ban on anything said. I am all for free speech. He can say what he likes it doesn't bother me what he thinks, he has a right to say it and I have a right to tell him he's a knob.

It's a shame because I don't mind him. He writes some pretty good posts when he's not blathering on.

That's the spirit. We're all grown-ups here and we need to start behaving as such, without calling for so-and-so to be punished every single time someone's wittle feewings are hurt.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

eddie wrote:

I think he's getting boring, I've told him so. He seems to spam the threads, no matter what the subject, about Great British Fuck Ups.

I was never the one for wanting a ban on anything said. I am all for free speech. He can say what he likes it doesn't bother me what he thinks, he has a right to say it and I have a right to tell him he's a knob.

It's a shame because I don't mind him. He writes some pretty good posts when he's not blathering on.

That's the spirit. We're all grown-ups here and we need to start behaving as such, without calling for so-and-so to be punished every single time someone's wittle feewings are hurt.

Are you having a laugh or what? You want people to behave like grown ups - and yet you think Veya's post was grown up?

Ben Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Are you having a laugh or what? You want people to behave like grown ups - and yet you think Veya's post was grown up?

It's not too grown-up to go running to Mommy and Daddy about somebody being a big meanie, is it?

Ben Reilly wrote:

eddie wrote:

I think he's getting boring, I've told him so. He seems to spam the threads, no matter what the subject, about Great British Fuck Ups.

I was never the one for wanting a ban on anything said. I am all for free speech. He can say what he likes it doesn't bother me what he thinks, he has a right to say it and I have a right to tell him he's a knob.

It's a shame because I don't mind him. He writes some pretty good posts when he's not blathering on.

That's the spirit. We're all grown-ups here and we need to start behaving as such, without calling for so-and-so to be punished every single time someone's wittle feewings are hurt.

Ben Reilly wrote:

eddie wrote:

I think he's getting boring, I've told him so. He seems to spam the threads, no matter what the subject, about Great British Fuck Ups.

I was never the one for wanting a ban on anything said. I am all for free speech. He can say what he likes it doesn't bother me what he thinks, he has a right to say it and I have a right to tell him he's a knob.

It's a shame because I don't mind him. He writes some pretty good posts when he's not blathering on.

That's the spirit. We're all grown-ups here and we need to start behaving as such, without calling for so-and-so to be punished every single time someone's wittle feewings are hurt.

HoratioTarr wrote:

Ben Reilly wrote:

eddie wrote:

I think he's getting boring, I've told him so. He seems to spam the threads, no matter what the subject, about Great British Fuck Ups.

I was never the one for wanting a ban on anything said. I am all for free speech. He can say what he likes it doesn't bother me what he thinks, he has a right to say it and I have a right to tell him he's a knob.

It's a shame because I don't mind him. He writes some pretty good posts when he's not blathering on.

That's the spirit. We're all grown-ups here and we need to start behaving as such, without calling for so-and-so to be punished every single time someone's wittle feewings are hurt.

So, if someone had reported Veya with your new shiny report abuse button, you'd have done fuck all about it?

this poster is forever abusing the British, he is a racist and his hate is getting worse. if he said the same thing about Muslims he would be banned, as any British poster would, so why is it permissable for him to get away with it?

Blah blah blah we criticize other countries and their people all the time and say everyone wishes they were British but we can't take it when people criticize us.