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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/15/bastille-day-truck-driver-was-known-to-police-reports-say
The man responsible for Thursday’s murderous attack in Nice was a violent petty criminal unknown to the French security services, who was born in Tunisia but had been living and working in the coastal city, prosecutors have said.
Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel, a 31-year-old delivery driver and father, was shot dead by police after killing 84 people, including 10 children and teenagers, and injuring scores more in a deadly Bastille Day rampage.
Despite a criminal record dating from his first conviction in March this year, Lahouaiej-Bouhlel was not known by French or Tunisian officials to have links to terrorist organisations and was said by neighbours to have had little apparent interest in religion.
Echoing the remarks of French officials, security sources in Tunisia said he was not known by the Tunisian authorities to hold radical or Islamist views.
At a packed press conference, the Paris prosecutor François Molins said Lahouaiej-Bouhlel had been “completely unknown to both France’s domestic and foreign intelligence officials”. But he added: “Although yesterday’s attack has not been claimed, this sort of thing fits in perfectly with calls for murder from such terrorist organisations.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/15/bastille-day-truck-driver-was-known-to-police-reports-say
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Ben Reilly wrote:HoratioTarr wrote:
So, if someone had reported Veya with your new shiny report abuse button, you'd have done fuck all about it?
Someone DID! Of course, they didn't include a link to the thread -- just a bunch of blather:this poster is forever abusing the British, he is a racist and his hate is getting worse. if he said the same thing about Muslims he would be banned, as any British poster would, so why is it permissable for him to get away with it?
Blah blah blah we criticize other countries and their people all the time and say everyone wishes they were British but we can't take it when people criticize us.
Well, I have to admit I made up that second paragraph ...
So anyway, I had to waste half an hour from my finite lifespan finding what the hell this member was talking about, and then I find Veya's succinct, angrily worded condemnation of the backward, hypocritical mentality of the Brexiteer crowd and I think to myself, why, he was pissed off but he had a point and he didn't break any rules. He didn't even call anybody a Pommie! No, people are ganging up because they got their feelings hurt and now they want me to punish him.
So now I'm angry at the Brexit gang, rather than with Veya as they intended. And if it keeps up, I swear -- next person I bump into with a British accent is getting punched in the nose.
As long as they're white
So, you've just confirmed to everyone that the report button should really be renamed The Report Button with Benefits.
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HoratioTarr wrote:Ben Reilly wrote:HoratioTarr wrote:
So, if someone had reported Veya with your new shiny report abuse button, you'd have done fuck all about it?
Someone DID! Of course, they didn't include a link to the thread -- just a bunch of blather:this poster is forever abusing the British, he is a racist and his hate is getting worse. if he said the same thing about Muslims he would be banned, as any British poster would, so why is it permissable for him to get away with it?
Blah blah blah we criticize other countries and their people all the time and say everyone wishes they were British but we can't take it when people criticize us.
Well, I have to admit I made up that second paragraph ...
So anyway, I had to waste half an hour from my finite lifespan finding what the hell this member was talking about, and then I find Veya's succinct, angrily worded condemnation of the backward, hypocritical mentality of the Brexiteer crowd and I think to myself, why, he was pissed off but he had a point and he didn't break any rules. He didn't even call anybody a Pommie! No, people are ganging up because they got their feelings hurt and now they want me to punish him.
So now I'm angry at the Brexit gang, rather than with Veya as they intended. And if it keeps up, I swear -- next person I bump into with a British accent is getting punched in the nose.
As long as they're white
So, you've just confirmed to everyone that the report button should really be renamed The Report Button with Benefits.
No, I've just illustrated the futility of thinking you can expect any admin here not to use their own mind when "abuse" is reported.
Veya's post wasn't abusive. It was angry and full of foul language, but he wasn't abusing anybody, unless saying that Britain made a brain-dead decision and will likely pay for it dearly is abusive -- but it's JUST AN OPINION.
Re: Nice attacker had 'little interest in religion,' no known links to terrorists
See! I'm always right. You ban one single word and then everything else becomes up for dispute.
It's either free speech or it isn't.
If someone fucks you off (and unless it's a genuine rule break) then tell them to fuck off.
It's either free speech or it isn't.
If someone fucks you off (and unless it's a genuine rule break) then tell them to fuck off.
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free speech comes with the rider of responsibility
fail to use it responsibly and your freedom can deservedly be restricted......
fail to use it responsibly and your freedom can deservedly be restricted......
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Re: Nice attacker had 'little interest in religion,' no known links to terrorists
Ben Reilly wrote:Tommy Monk wrote:veya_victaous wrote:eddie wrote:
What you going to bleat on about if it doesn't become this third world country?
Do you realise you're basically saying "if you don't stay part of th EU gang then the rest of the world gang will fuck you over"?
Do you realise that's paramount to bullying?
YOU DO REASLISE THAT IS EXACTLY HOW YOU NATION GOT THE MONEY IT HAS!!!!! Except with FAR FUCKING MORE KILLING !!!
SO YES Eddie we are going to Gang up and fuck you over like You did, like every nation does to any nation that is weakening
REAL FUCKING LIFE.
No different than the Savahana, the UK is now the Bleeding Bison
@Raggs
I know that why i call you fucking Hill shepherds!!!!!
and thats why we are going to take EVERYTHING off you
Like You showed us to do!!!
to those that are too weak and don't pay enough attention to other nations.
If How you founded the Empire Remeber
Are these views really acceptable from an admin here to be spouting...!?
If I can provide a slightly cooler-headed translation -- Veya, feel free to correct me if I've missed anything:Beya Reictaous wrote:Do you realize that forcing its will on other nations is how the UK became prosperous in the first place? Except it accomplished most of that not by the pen, but by the sword, in its bloody colonial conquests.
So yes, Eddie, the rest of the world is going to exploit the UK as the UK exploited other countries, because that's what the world does to places no longer strong enough to fight back. It's a dog-eat-dog world, after all.
@Raggs
Your attitude that the UK should withdraw from global affairs is precisely why I call you a term that here means "provincial and isolationist people."
And while the UK is abdicating its role in the global economy, the rest of the world is going to jump in and snap up everything it could have had.
It's the strategy that the British used in creating its once-global empire, and the rest of the world has learned the lesson.
I think he makes a good point, and I personally think all the objection is to his tone, not the substance of what he said.
Yes, a very accurate translation for Australian to American
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Re: Nice attacker had 'little interest in religion,' no known links to terrorists
Thanks. If the U.S. is dumb enough to elect Trump I expect a similar condemnation, which the U.S. (in my lowly opinion!) will richly deserve.
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Ben Reilly wrote:Thanks. If the U.S. is dumb enough to elect Trump I expect a similar condemnation, which the U.S. (in my lowly opinion!) will richly deserve.
You'll find me asking questions and trying to put a positive slant on things.
I'm not one to say to people "Oh look what's happened to you! Oh it's all going to explode in your face!"
Which is what some of you did over BREXIT.
So think about how you'd like to be treated, you lot.
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Re: Nice attacker had 'little interest in religion,' no known links to terrorists
Ben Reilly wrote:HoratioTarr wrote:
So, if someone had reported Veya with your new shiny report abuse button, you'd have done fuck all about it?
Someone DID! Of course, they didn't include a link to the thread -- just a bunch of blather:this poster is forever abusing the British, he is a racist and his hate is getting worse. if he said the same thing about Muslims he would be banned, as any British poster would, so why is it permissable for him to get away with it?
Blah blah blah we criticize other countries and their people all the time and say everyone wishes they were British but we can't take it when people criticize us.
Well, I have to admit I made up that second paragraph ...
So anyway, I had to waste half an hour from my finite lifespan finding what the hell this member was talking about, and then I find Veya's succinct, angrily worded condemnation of the backward, hypocritical mentality of the Brexiteer crowd and I think to myself, why, he was pissed off but he had a point and he didn't break any rules. He didn't even call anybody a Pommie! No, people are ganging up because they got their feelings hurt and now they want me to punish him.
So now I'm angry at the Brexit gang, rather than with Veya as they intended. And if it keeps up, I swear -- next person I bump into with a British accent is getting punched in the nose.
As long as they're white
So will you be quoting what everyone says when they report an issue? That's like posting someone's PM isn't it?
Oh, and if you punched me because I'm British and white, you'd be in court accused of racially-motivated GBH.
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Also, what does Brexit have to do with what Veya said? He was saying that kind of stuff before the referundum.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Ben Reilly wrote:HoratioTarr wrote:
So, if someone had reported Veya with your new shiny report abuse button, you'd have done fuck all about it?
Someone DID! Of course, they didn't include a link to the thread -- just a bunch of blather:this poster is forever abusing the British, he is a racist and his hate is getting worse. if he said the same thing about Muslims he would be banned, as any British poster would, so why is it permissable for him to get away with it?
Blah blah blah we criticize other countries and their people all the time and say everyone wishes they were British but we can't take it when people criticize us.
Well, I have to admit I made up that second paragraph ...
So anyway, I had to waste half an hour from my finite lifespan finding what the hell this member was talking about, and then I find Veya's succinct, angrily worded condemnation of the backward, hypocritical mentality of the Brexiteer crowd and I think to myself, why, he was pissed off but he had a point and he didn't break any rules. He didn't even call anybody a Pommie! No, people are ganging up because they got their feelings hurt and now they want me to punish him.
So now I'm angry at the Brexit gang, rather than with Veya as they intended. And if it keeps up, I swear -- next person I bump into with a British accent is getting punched in the nose.
As long as they're white
So will you be quoting what everyone says when they report an issue? That's like posting someone's PM isn't it?
Oh, and if you punched me because I'm British and white, you'd be in court accused of racially-motivated GBH.
I only quoted it because I knew nobody'd be able to tell who it was. And I don't punch ladies anyhow.
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Only cos you know most women on here are bloody hard nuts and might knock you out
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Ben Reilly wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
So will you be quoting what everyone says when they report an issue? That's like posting someone's PM isn't it?
Oh, and if you punched me because I'm British and white, you'd be in court accused of racially-motivated GBH.
I only quoted it because I knew nobody'd be able to tell who it was. And I don't punch ladies anyhow.
If you punched a guy for being British and white, you'd still be up in court on a charge of racially-motivated GBH.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Ben Reilly wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
So will you be quoting what everyone says when they report an issue? That's like posting someone's PM isn't it?
Oh, and if you punched me because I'm British and white, you'd be in court accused of racially-motivated GBH.
I only quoted it because I knew nobody'd be able to tell who it was. And I don't punch ladies anyhow.
If you punched a guy for being British and white, you'd still be up in court on a charge of racially-motivated GBH.
Not here in Texas I wouldn't. The police would get us to make up and then be on their way so long as neither party wished to press charges.
Well, on second thought, given the British mentality, I might spend a night in jail, but that'd be it.
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Ben Reilly wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
If you punched a guy for being British and white, you'd still be up in court on a charge of racially-motivated GBH.
Not here in Texas I wouldn't. The police would get us to make up and then be on their way so long as neither party wished to press charges.
Well, on second thought, given the British mentality, I might spend a night in jail, but that'd be it.
In other words, you condone racially-motivated crimes? So why do you moan like hell when a black person is the victim of such a crime?
Why would you want to press charges? You'd be the one assaulting another person merely for being white and British. They would press charges if they had any sense - such hate crimes shouldn't be tolerated.
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eddie wrote:Ben Reilly wrote:Thanks. If the U.S. is dumb enough to elect Trump I expect a similar condemnation, which the U.S. (in my lowly opinion!) will richly deserve.
You'll find me asking questions and trying to put a positive slant on things.
I'm not one to say to people "Oh look what's happened to you! Oh it's all going to explode in your face!"
Which is what some of you did over BREXIT.
So think about how you'd like to be treated, you lot.
Exactly. I don't get all the crowing about someone's misfortune or their country's politics.
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Ben Reilly wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:Ben Reilly wrote:HoratioTarr wrote:
So, if someone had reported Veya with your new shiny report abuse button, you'd have done fuck all about it?
Someone DID! Of course, they didn't include a link to the thread -- just a bunch of blather:this poster is forever abusing the British, he is a racist and his hate is getting worse. if he said the same thing about Muslims he would be banned, as any British poster would, so why is it permissable for him to get away with it?
Blah blah blah we criticize other countries and their people all the time and say everyone wishes they were British but we can't take it when people criticize us.
Well, I have to admit I made up that second paragraph ...
So anyway, I had to waste half an hour from my finite lifespan finding what the hell this member was talking about, and then I find Veya's succinct, angrily worded condemnation of the backward, hypocritical mentality of the Brexiteer crowd and I think to myself, why, he was pissed off but he had a point and he didn't break any rules. He didn't even call anybody a Pommie! No, people are ganging up because they got their feelings hurt and now they want me to punish him.
So now I'm angry at the Brexit gang, rather than with Veya as they intended. And if it keeps up, I swear -- next person I bump into with a British accent is getting punched in the nose.
As long as they're white
So will you be quoting what everyone says when they report an issue? That's like posting someone's PM isn't it?
Oh, and if you punched me because I'm British and white, you'd be in court accused of racially-motivated GBH.
I only quoted it because I knew nobody'd be able to tell who it was. And I don't punch ladies anyhow.
LOL
they are lucky their is so many British accents
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HoratioTarr wrote:eddie wrote:Ben Reilly wrote:Thanks. If the U.S. is dumb enough to elect Trump I expect a similar condemnation, which the U.S. (in my lowly opinion!) will richly deserve.
You'll find me asking questions and trying to put a positive slant on things.
I'm not one to say to people "Oh look what's happened to you! Oh it's all going to explode in your face!"
Which is what some of you did over BREXIT.
So think about how you'd like to be treated, you lot.
Exactly. I don't get all the crowing about someone's misfortune or their country's politics.
Oh Now that you want to be "provincial and isolationist people." you don't
And I am mocking Because SO many Brits one here were so Pro Brexit
I Said Originally
I feel sorry for those that voted be part of the future, only to be outvoted by a "provincial and isolationist people."
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Ben Reilly wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:
If you punched a guy for being British and white, you'd still be up in court on a charge of racially-motivated GBH.
Not here in Texas I wouldn't. The police would get us to make up and then be on their way so long as neither party wished to press charges.
Well, on second thought, given the British mentality, I might spend a night in jail, but that'd be it.
DOWN HERE, they would probably arrest Raggs and Ben for 'disturbing the peace' and 'being drunk and disorderly', lock them up for a few hours, and then release Raggs that afternoon, and Ben the next morning...
THE British guvm'nt really does seem to have become quite reactionary in recent years with some of their laws, haven't they..
By the way, have they removed that old law that allowed a husband to belt his wife every morning -- and twice on Sundays -- to keep her in line ?
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even raggs has got it wrong
If you were Black and smacked a white guy...you would get off scott free....
if its the other way round the white guy would get done for racially agravated assault....even if he was protecting his Girl friend from rape
If you were Black and smacked a white guy...you would get off scott free....
if its the other way round the white guy would get done for racially agravated assault....even if he was protecting his Girl friend from rape
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It just made me laugh how a caring leftie like Ben would happily smack someone in the mouth simply for being white and British - after all his whinging about prejudice and intolerance.
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Raggamuffin wrote:It just made me laugh how a caring leftie like Ben would happily smack someone in the mouth simply for being white and British - after all his whinging about prejudice and intolerance.
I only said that to get a rise out of you, for the love of little baby Jesus...
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Raggamuffin wrote:It just made me laugh how a caring leftie like Ben would happily smack someone in the mouth simply for being white and British - after all his whinging about prejudice and intolerance.
Are you actually fucking serious?
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eddie wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:It just made me laugh how a caring leftie like Ben would happily smack someone in the mouth simply for being white and British - after all his whinging about prejudice and intolerance.
Are you actually fucking serious?
What's your problem with my post?
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Ben Reilly wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:It just made me laugh how a caring leftie like Ben would happily smack someone in the mouth simply for being white and British - after all his whinging about prejudice and intolerance.
I only said that to get a rise out of you, for the love of little baby Jesus...
Ooooh, look at you using Jesus to score points. It doesn't take much for you to drop your Mr Nice Guy act does it?
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eddie wrote:Only cos you know most women on here are bloody hard nuts and might knock you out
Yeah......girl power.
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I think the admin are a bit cross with me.
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Raggamuffin wrote:Ben Reilly wrote:Raggamuffin wrote:It just made me laugh how a caring leftie like Ben would happily smack someone in the mouth simply for being white and British - after all his whinging about prejudice and intolerance.
I only said that to get a rise out of you, for the love of little baby Jesus...
Ooooh, look at you using Jesus to score points. It doesn't take much for you to drop your Mr Nice Guy act does it?
Do I do a nice-guy act? I thought it was pretty obvious I can be a bastard at times ...
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Raggs next time use more
so they know your joking
so they know your joking
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Lord Foul wrote:even raggs has got it wrong
If you were Black and smacked a white guy...you would get off scott free....
if its the other way round the white guy would get done for racially agravated assault....even if he was protecting his Girl friend from rape
Actually, you have this wrong
Now I am know you are not racist Victor, so please do not tell me you are using the Far Right joker card of the 4 Somallian girls that got away with a racist assualt leading you to this poor perception based on sentencing?
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/review-of-racial-bias-and-bame-representation-in-criminal-justice-system-announced
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/courts-are-biased-against-blacks-with-white-offenders-less-likely-to-be-jailed-for-similar-crimes-8959804.html
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