Nearly All Kebab Shops Are Disgusting, Dirty & Extremely Dangerous

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14th January 2014

That's my opinion, I've always thought that, and it probably goes for Indian curry houses too.

What do you think?


The investigation into 395 local authorities by Which?, using data obtained from the Food Standards Agency (FSA), revealed more than a third of high and medium-risk food businesses are not complying with safety rules.

The hygiene risk of a business was based on the type of food, the number of consumers at risk, the method of processing and confidence in the management.



Local authority rankings were based upon criteria such as the number of premises compliant with hygiene requirements, the number of visits performed by council inspectors and the percentage of premises yet to receive a risk rating.

Bexley in London was exposed as the worst-performing local authority, with five further London councils appearing in the bottom 10, including Ealing, Enfield, Harrow, Richmond upon Thames and Southwark.

The study revealed that overall, food testing fell by 6.8% from the previous year, while testing for correct labelling and presentation fell by 16.2%.

The figures showed no hygiene sampling at all was carried out by Bexley, Christchurch, Isles of Scilly, Medway, Tamworth, West Lindsey and West Yorkshire authorities.

Which? executive director Richard Lloyd, said: "No one wants another horse meat fiasco, so it is very worrying that local authority food checks are in decline.

"We want to see a more strategic approach to food law enforcement that makes the best use of limited resources and responds effectively to the huge challenges facing the food supply chain."


http://news.sky.com/story/1194654/food-safety-worst-councils-named-and-shamed

Todmorden dirty takeaway owner fined £4,500

. 11:40am Thursday 10th January 2013 in News .

BOSSES at a takeaway in Todmorden have been fined £4,500 over a catalogue of complaints logged by environmental health inspectors.

Shafqat Siddique, owner of Ali Baba, in Rochdale Road, and his manager Zaffar Iqbal, were responsible for no fewer than 27 breaches of food safety regulations.

And at Bradford Crown Court Siddique was fined £3,000, with £1,000 costs, and Iqbal was fined £1,500, with £500 costs.

Food inspectors found dirty floors and surfaces, raw meat being stored next to vegetables and a chopping board with evidence of mould. Council officials saw there was also evidence of smoking in the kitchen and uncooked food being stored at the wrong temperatures

Zeyno’s in Northam


A FILTHY takeaway with no running hot water has been closed down by food safety officials.

Prior to the closure of Zeyno's Fish and Chip, Kebab and Pizza House in Northam, two 47kg gas cylinders were removed from the property.

Health officials say if they had exploded they could have taken out half the street.

North Devon Magistrates Court granted a hygiene emergency prohibition order at a hearing brought by Torridge District Council on Friday.

Food and safety manager, Daryl Littlejohns, told magistrates: "There is an imminent risk to health and it is in the public interest to close the premises."

Mr Littlejohns said he visited the property on Fore Street last Wednesday.

He said there was no running hot water anywhere, no soap and no hand-drying facilities.

He said the property was in a very dirty condition and a stack of raw beef burgers was found next to some grated cheese on a yellow chopping board.

More raw beef burgers were being stored at the top of the fridge, above cooked meats.

Mr Littlejohns told the court open containers of sauce were stored on the floor next to a pot of grease.

Chips, which he was told were defrosting, were found on the floor in the basement.

Some 115 photos demonstrating the dirty conditions and risk to health were shown to magistrates.

They included pictures of the poor floor condition, which Mr Littlejohns said had not been cleaned, evidence of smoking, garlic bulbs mixed in with a box of tools, rusty fridge shelves, and mayonnaise stored at room temperature.

Mr Littlejohns said there was evidence of food being prepared in the basement and a piece of chipboard being used as a work surface.

He said there was no attempt to place foods in lidded containers and the mincing machine, which was kept in the basement, was not clean.

He added: "There was LPG [Liquefied Petroleum Gas] in the basement which was removed and a notice served. This is being dealt with as a separate issue, but it could have taken half the street out.

He said: "Even the telephone was in a dirty state."

Business operator, Muhammet Akbulut, did not oppose the order.

After the hearing he said: "I am shocked. I do not live here or work on the premises.

"We will work with Torridge District Council to resolve the issue."


Read more: http://www.legacythisisdevon.co.uk/Health-officers-close-dirty-takeaway/story-15363699-detail/story.html#ixzz2qUsJWpzX

So where is the comparisons to other fast foods outlets?

so that is 3 out of 20,000 in other words, wow shocking

3 out of 20,000 eh?

I wouldn't have thought so lol

28/11/2012, by Shetland Times, in News


A fast food outlet in Lerwick has come under fire after failing to comply with food hygiene regulations.

The Turkish Delight in Harbour Street has been described as a “dirty and unhygienic premises” following inspections by the council’s environmental health department – although efforts have since been made to clean up its act.

At Lerwick Sheriff Court today the take-away’s owner, Saban Kusmus, 49, admitted nine charges relating to food hygiene regulations between August 2011 and January this year.

The court heard the failings were “significant” and demonstrated “a very real risk to public health”.

Procurator fiscal Duncan MacKenzie said Kusmus had shown a lack of co-operation, despite a “very pro-active” approach from environmental health officials which included providing leaflets written in Kusmus’s native Turkish.

Mr MacKenzie said: “The environmental health department have a very pro-active policy of engaging with businesses, and attempt to achieve compliance by offering encouragement and assistance as well as practical advice.

“They had been following that policy with Mr Kusmus for some considerable time and they were faced with a complete lack of co-operation. Information was provided to him in leaflets written in Turkish, and he has had training in the past.

“It’s clear it was a positive choice on his part to operate dirty and unhygienic premises. These are basic food hygiene failings. They are significant and do constitute a very real risk to public health.”

Mr MacKenzie added Kusmus’s attitude reflected his mood towards the court proceedings, which have been drawn out over months and eventually required a warrant to be taken for his arrest.

“Environmental health remain committed to working with him, and I don’t think Mr Kusmus appreciates the seriousness of these offences,” he added.

Defence agent Tommy Allan said environmental health had told him that many improvements had been made since the offences came to light, although he was not in a position to give a report with “gold stars”.

“There is a continued relationship with Mr Kusmus to help him continue with the improvements,” Mr Allan said.
He added Kusmus had gone back to Turkey when his mother, who lives there, was taken into hospital.

She was discharged but had to go back in soon after, and Kusmus cancelled his return journey, losing money in the process.
Back home, Kusmus had also been in hospital himself for a month and a half after suffering from a heart problem.
Other people had been looking after his business during that time, said Mr Allan.

“They did not do that well and, whilst it is his responsibility to make sure everything was complied with, he accepts that during his recovery period he was not able to be properly in control.”

Mr Allan added Kusmus was now being helped by his son. Environmental health could have closed down Kusmus’s fast food outlet, but had not done so.

“They haven’t done that, but it has been made very clear to me that they can do this to him. Mr Kusmus is committed to running his shop and keeping the business going with his son. It is an addition to the variety of cuisine that is offered in Shetland.”

Deferring sentence until after the New Year, sheriff Philip Mann called for a report to be compiled by environmental health.

The business is a popular chicken and pizza takeaway

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The owner of a cockroach-infested takeaway has been fined more than £15,000 for failing to comply with food safety and cleanliness standards.

Sumanan Poopalasingam has owned British Fried Chicken and Pizza, in Station Gate, Laindon, for 15 years. He pleaded guilty to fifteen food hygiene offences at Basildon Magistrates' Court on Friday, September 20.

The case related to an inspection on January 31, the purpose of which was a routine food hygiene inspection and response to a customer complaint about cockroaches being seen on a fridge in the premises.

The business is a popular chicken and pizza takeaway serving customers from early morning to late evenings.

Richard Moore, cabinet member responsible for food safety at Basildon Council, said: "Over the years, standards at the shop fluctuated and the owner ignored the extensive advice given by our officers about how to comply with food hygiene legislation.

"There was no system for managing food safety and staff were not trained, which resulted in poor food handling practices. A cockroach infestation was not being dealt with and waste arrangements were inadequate.

"This was clearly unacceptable and Basildon Council will always act robustly to ensure those who put the public's health at risk are prosecuted."

A summary of the offences also stated the facilities for washing hands were inadequate and there was no lobby between the toilet and kitchen. The structure was dirty and poorly maintained, equipment in contact with food was in poor repair, and the level of lighting was inadequate.

Despite much advice there were no food safety documents or records being maintained.

Mr Poopalasingam was fined £1,500 for each of the four offences which Magistrates considered the most serious (relating to personal cleanliness of food handlers, potential contamination of food, failing to refrigerate food at below 8°C, and inadequate hand washing facilities). He was fined a further £500 for each of the remaining 11 offences.

Mr Poopalasingam was also ordered to pay full investigatory and legal costs of £3,816 and a victim surcharge of £120. The total was £15,436.


Read more: http://www.brentwoodgazette.co.uk/Cockroach-infected-dirty-takeaway-fined-15-000/story-19838347-detail/story.html#ixzz2qZIJWTSg

South Ayrshire Council News

Takeaway operator fined for dirty premises



A photograph taken at the premises in Ayr.

A photograph taken at the premises in Ayr.
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A takeaway operator in Ayr has been fined £500 at Ayr Sheriff Court after pleading guilty to failing to maintain his premises in a clean and hygienic condition.

Narinder Singh, of Uno's Takeaway at 88 Sandgate, Ayr admitted the offence after an inspection visit by South Ayrshire Council in August 2012 found the standard of hygiene at the premises was very poor.

Council Environmental Health Officers found several examples of contamination hazards between raw and ready-to-eat food, extensive evidence of a lack of routine cleaning and poor structural maintenance.

There was also an infestation of beetles and flies within the food preparation area. The officers considered conditions so poor that the takeaway was closed immediately, with Mr Singh's agreement.

The Court heard that Council Environmental Health Officers had also found poor conditions during two previous inspections and, despite extensive advice on complying with the hygiene regulations, Mr Singh had still failed to operate the business to satisfactory standards.

I should think there are hundreds.

So after 24 hours we have 6 out of 20,000, one moment

 ://?roflmao?/: 

0.03% wow


No comparisons either as of yet to other fast food outlets

They are just trying to force a square peg into a round hole, didge.

The point is that a summary statement must be backed up by quantitative proof. They keep trying to force anecdotal evidence into the discussion.

You can't generalize from specifics.

Original Quill wrote:They are just trying to force a square peg into a round hole, didge.  

The point is that a summary statement must be backed up by quantitative proof.  They keep trying to force anecdotal evidence into the discussion.  

You can't generalize from specifics.

This is the same argument they use on anything to do with trying to make a poor point about ethnic groups, this has nothing to do with Kebab shops but the people who work in them to those presenting such a poor claim here.

That is the real sad part about it!

Now this is nice...

the R/W disected
Standing slightly to the right of ghengis Khan we have big andy and allakaka
standing to his left, but only slightly we have didge

now I find it funny in a mischevious kind of way...the germans have the ONLY single word that encompasses my amusement Schadenfreude

you See, big andy and allakaka represent the Right of the brute kind, Anything they see as "not the same" as them, and sufficiently weak is a target, A strategy requiring no thought and little effort, minimal communications...just the odd grunt here and there...
however they have the saving grace of at least being astoundingly loyal to their country...misguided true, looking in all the wrong places for issues true..but loyal

didge on the other hand represents the right of the intellectual...the R/W liberal. (liberal here is a misnomer..they are anything BUT liberal) they are degenerate fascists, they despise the notion of "country" prefering instead to sell us all out to vested interests which their masters control (like the E.U), They however adore immigration, and refuse to either believe it causes problems or even when they see it IS doing, refuse to do anything about it because it weakens our own peoples position in all aspects and take the view that the rest of us should STFU and "adapt. They spawn and encourage anti british legislation left right and center, they create a fiscal nightmare and THEN blame our weakest and most vulnerable for it.
they are poisonous and traitors to their own.

Ahhh the Right..couldnt "get it right" if they tried....

WTF you clearly know little at all it seems, as I believe in immigration being controlled to sensible levels, what I am against is people targeting immigrants for only wanting a better life and how they are badly stigmatized. 

Racism has no real left or right wrong as they can be found on either side, I happen to think the main 3 parties all stand against racism as I stand very firmly against racism.

You though are a former BNP supporter if I am not mistake who have very left with some polices and far right nationalist policies, so by your own logic does that make you a fascist? 

So to make absurd suggestions I adore something when my views only seek to defend against poor stereotypes shows how little you have of a grasp of understanding anyone victor

I am certainly central or liberal right, there is nothing left about me dearest!

Where also have I said I am a fan of the EU?

Seriously I like you victor but you really at times talk some real shit

didge is extreme left wing, just like Alakaka!

 


Now that was funny Andy

I did say you stood only a (very) little to the left of ghengis khan as opposed to big andy and allakaka who stand well to the right of him........its all relative didge ..

The left love immigration for the votes, which to them is power
the right love immigration for the profits...which to them is power (think ferengi)
I said I agreed with SOME of the BNP policies...not all
I said I would vote for a suitably feisty BNP member of parliament in order for them to get 1 or 2 into westminster....the guaranteed fire works would be well worth seeing...

My political stance has NO equivalent in modern politics as far as I can see...even drinky has a problem catergorising me....
i am certainly not fascist, since I believe in democracy (real democracy not the cripple we have at the moment)
I beleive in MERITOCRACY where the best persons for the job should be put forward to be elected to do certain jobs.
like top flight medics to health secretary, top flight financial people to run the economy, top flight military to run the forces, etc...
I am a nationalist yes, and proud of it, but I am also a humanist, therfore I would allow humanitarian immigration, but would block ALL economic immigration, the ONLY immigration beyond humanitarian would be for specific job needs where some one has skills we need, and THEN it would be on the basis of a "job placement" only. I.E via a specific contract.

and you ONLY defend the poor against "stereotypes" when it suits you. You are quite content to lay into the so called "scroungers" with the best of them, the only problem is you beleive your tory masters who tell you everyone on benefits is a scrounger

Yes but you made poor errors saying I adored immigration when my view on immigration os controls and that my view is defending against stereotypes and blaming immigrants for many issues when as stated they like many people are just looking for a new start.

You were also wrong on the EU, have never been a fan though I am very interested to understand and know what would be the outcome for the UK if indeed we did leave.

I am very proud to be British and see myself as English because I am born here yet others would seek to deny me that right because they think being somewhere for generations can only make you English, even though being really English would only mean purely being descended from the Angles where the name derives. Hence the absurdity of those denying people their birth right, when this nation is very mixed with different ethnic groups and always has been.

I have no problem with economic immigration or vital immigration like skilled jobs like Doctors for example, sadly until an ethos has changed in this country with work for some immigrants are needed for certain jobs, you need to get to the root cause, because when jobs were aplenty, even then people still refused to take up such work, hence the need for immigrants! I certainly blame Labour for its open policy but I also blame some of the people of this nation for having such a poor work ethos in thinking some jobs are beneath them hence the need of employers to take on immigrants


Who said about the poor, I said about groups of ethic groups being discriminated against. Some of the poor are bone idol, some go through life not bothering at school and have no wish to work, that is a fact, not all the poor by any means, but I do not deny there are people out there like that!

@phil
Very well said

Back to restaurants. Posting the odd news story on a few odd outlets proves nothing. There will be plenty of other odd restaurants that are not Asian that also get in trouble like this. For the most though they are fine and I don't see anyone here saying they ever had a problem. I certainly haven't nor anyone I know- not even in India

veya_victaous wrote:@phil
Very well said

Thank you Veya

personally i wouldnt eat that stuff anyhow...
and its got nothing to do with its ethnicity...

finely sliced greasy god knows what, produced and kept in dubious conditions...yeuk
Its about as close to a heart attack on a plate as it gets....

suitable as food ONLY for the drunk and down and out...

AND i ONLY eat at "certain" restaurants and pubs as a rule...ones which say yes of course, when I ask if I can take a look at their kitchens....

the only example of fast food I bother with is subways, which generally have high standards, the food is prepared in front of you (although of course you have no idea of its provenance) and the places are generally clean and tidy..

Takeaway bosses have been fined after mouse droppings were found at their fried chicken shop.

A food hygiene inspector made the grisly discovery when he visited UK Fried Chicken in Oldham town centre in July.

The premises on Union Street were found to be infested with mice by the worker from Oldham council’s Environmental Health Team.

Mouse droppings were found on dishcloths, work surfaces and shelves throughout the shop, including where food was being prepared.

There was also no soap or hand drying facilities at the wash hand basin in connection with the toilet.

The shop’s owners were prosecuted with Ghulam Haider Raja, 34 and Nigat Shaheen, 31 of Sycamore Close, Bradford, both pleading guilty to five food safety offences at Oldham Magistrates court.

They were each fined £1,500 by magistrates and costs of £1,550 were awarded to the council.

Chiefs now say the case should act as a warning to other food outlets.

Councillor Jean Stretton, Cabinet Member for Co-operatives and Neighbourhoods, said: “Oldham Council takes matters like this very seriously and we are committed to ensuring there are no serious lapses in food hygiene in premises across the borough

“Business owners who run food establishments must comply with the law or be prepared to face the consequences as we will not hesitate to take action in cases like these to protect the health and safety of residents.”

The shop’s owners could not be reached for comment by the MEN

Having done deliveries for a few kebab shops for a while when I was much younger , I can vouch for this...in the back shops they were filthy, and the toilets were absolutely disgusting, with no hand wash , drier, paper towels or even toilet paper, filthy...I mean really bad.

Some are a fair bit better than that though , the one a couple of miles from me looks quite good and clean, and you can see into a fair bit of the back shop with this takeaway, and it's owned by  young lads, one of which was a year or two below me at school, they travel to between the tone nearest to where I live and back to Dundee mostly every night, I eat from that one because I know it's far more clean than many others....

Not to mention the only in my area.

Joy Division wrote:Having done deliveries for a few kebab shops for a while when I was much younger , I can vouch for this...in the back shops they were filthy, and the toilets were absolutely disgusting, with no hand wash , drier, paper towels or even toilet paper, filthy...I mean really bad.

Some are a fair bit better than that though , the one a couple of miles from me looks quite good and clean, and you can see into a fair bit of the back shop with this takeaway, and it's owned by  young lads, one of which was a year or two below me at school, they travel to between the tone nearest to where I live and back to Dundee mostly every night, I eat from that one because I know it's far more clean than many others....

Not to mention the only in my area.

Well, lets pose a question here!

Before all of the health and safety laws, were the majority of us getting ill?

I used to buy hot dogs and burgers of the street sellers in the West End of London, after a night out, and i never got ill at all!

It's all a load of crap imo!.....Just like fucking sell by dates, that they put on stuff that you buy from the supermarket.

You build up an immunity against illness, by being exposed to germs!

I wonder why the antibiotics aren't working anymore!

Too much over cleaning, and the products, that the major corporations promote!

Eilzel wrote:Back to restaurants. Posting the odd news story on a few odd outlets proves nothing. There will be plenty of other odd restaurants that are not Asian that also get in trouble like this. For the most though they are fine and I don't see anyone here saying they ever had a problem. I certainly haven't nor anyone I know- not even in India

Hi Eilzel

Exactly hence why I have asked for comparisons to bring this into perspective but for some reason this has not been forth coming This has nothing to do with even Kebab shops but ethnic people who run them, that is evident from the usual suspects.


So after 5 days we have 7 out of 20,000, one moment



0.03% wow


No comparisons either as of yet to other fast food outlets and as Quill rightly said:

The point is that a summary statement must be backed up by quantitative proof. They keep trying to force anecdotal evidence into the discussion.

You can't generalize from specifics.

Catman wrote:You build up an immunity against illness, by being exposed to germs!

I wonder why the antibiotics aren't working anymore!

Too much over cleaning, and the products, that the major corporations promote!

I agree there tbh. I ate from street vendors and small, and not so hygienic seeming canteen style restaurants often while in Thailand. And I did so for 6 months. No doubt many Brits and other western travelers would cringe at some of the places I ate from, but after half a year of doing that I never had a problem. Rick Stein mentions in his India cook book just how squeamish we westerners can be. In truth there is probably a lot in what you say about some corporation pushing their agenda/market.

^didge, I hear you pal, I doubt responses will be quick in coming though   

Korben Dallas wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:But if you didn't have the kebabs and Curries .....
You'd be forced to eat English food (Barf, spew         )

       

faggots and tripe yukkkkkk (ps for the americans both these are foods in the uk  )

Nothing wrong with a faggot. :D 

NemsAgain wrote:

Korben Dallas wrote:
faggots and tripe yukkkkkk (ps for the americans both these are foods in the uk  )

Nothing wrong with a faggot. :D 

I'll take your word for it Nems; I googled faggot and got an advert for Gaviscon