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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:59 am

14th January 2014

That's my opinion, I've always thought that, and it probably goes for Indian curry houses too.

What do you think?



The investigation into 395 local authorities by Which?, using data obtained from the Food Standards Agency (FSA), revealed more than a third of high and medium-risk food businesses are not complying with safety rules.

The hygiene risk of a business was based on the type of food, the number of consumers at risk, the method of processing and confidence in the management.



Local authority rankings were based upon criteria such as the number of premises compliant with hygiene requirements, the number of visits performed by council inspectors and the percentage of premises yet to receive a risk rating.

Bexley in London was exposed as the worst-performing local authority, with five further London councils appearing in the bottom 10, including Ealing, Enfield, Harrow, Richmond upon Thames and Southwark.

The study revealed that overall, food testing fell by 6.8% from the previous year, while testing for correct labelling and presentation fell by 16.2%.

The figures showed no hygiene sampling at all was carried out by Bexley, Christchurch, Isles of Scilly, Medway, Tamworth, West Lindsey and West Yorkshire authorities.

Which? executive director Richard Lloyd, said: "No one wants another horse meat fiasco, so it is very worrying that local authority food checks are in decline.

"We want to see a more strategic approach to food law enforcement that makes the best use of limited resources and responds effectively to the huge challenges facing the food supply chain."


http://news.sky.com/story/1194654/food-safety-worst-councils-named-and-shamed

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Post by Original Quill Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:45 pm

no hygiene sampling at all was carried out by Bexley, Christchurch, Isles of Scilly, Medway, Tamworth, West Lindsey and West Yorkshire authorities

That's hardly a ringing condemnation...we know what we don't know??

My feeling is that it's probably like that diner with a fingerprint in the butter. A little edgy, but the food is phenomenal. I love kebabs, and it fits with a healthy diet. So, it's off-setting.

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Post by Eilzel Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:14 pm

Well the thread title is bollox really since the article says nothing of Kebab shops or Indians specifically- though you might have mentioned 5/10 worst offenders were in London.

I've been to a few Kebab shops of an evening and countless curry houses all over the country and never had a problem- always spot on, gorgeous food Smile
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Post by Clarkson Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:19 pm

Then why use them Andy.

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:47 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:14th January 2014

That's my opinion, I've always thought that, and it probably goes for Indian curry houses too.

What do you think?



The investigation into 395 local authorities by Which?, using data obtained from the Food Standards Agency (FSA), revealed more than a third of high and medium-risk food businesses are not complying with safety rules.

The hygiene risk of a business was based on the type of food, the number of consumers at risk, the method of processing and confidence in the management.



Local authority rankings were based upon criteria such as the number of premises compliant with hygiene requirements, the number of visits performed by council inspectors and the percentage of premises yet to receive a risk rating.

Bexley in London was exposed as the worst-performing local authority, with five further London councils appearing in the bottom 10, including Ealing, Enfield, Harrow, Richmond upon Thames and Southwark.

The study revealed that overall, food testing fell by 6.8% from the previous year, while testing for correct labelling and presentation fell by 16.2%.

The figures showed no hygiene sampling at all was carried out by Bexley, Christchurch, Isles of Scilly, Medway, Tamworth, West Lindsey and West Yorkshire authorities.

Which? executive director Richard Lloyd, said: "No one wants another horse meat fiasco, so it is very worrying that local authority food checks are in decline.

"We want to see a more strategic approach to food law enforcement that makes the best use of limited resources and responds effectively to the huge challenges facing the food supply chain."


http://news.sky.com/story/1194654/food-safety-worst-councils-named-and-shamed
i used to work in a kebab shop as a delivery driver and used to help with the cooking ........andys not wrong
geeze i could tell you storys

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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:59 pm

Should I just go ahead and change the title of this thread to "Foreigners are Filthy, Disgusting Subhumans Who Should Be Kicked Out"?
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Post by Irn Bru Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:09 pm

The report doesn't even mention kebab shops. Maybe a lot of them are Fish & Chip shops.
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Post by Eilzel Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:11 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:Should I just go ahead and change the title of this thread to "Foreigners are Filthy, Disgusting Subhumans Who Should Be Kicked Out"?

It's as good as that isn't it... he is just playing for attention bless him  Smile 
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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:28 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:Should I just go ahead and change the title of this thread to "Foreigners are Filthy, Disgusting Subhumans Who Should Be Kicked Out"?
perhaps a bit....OTT ben
And i would not subscribe to that view
and if you have watched Ramsey`s kitchen nightmares then it is clear its not a "foreigners" exclusive  problem

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Post by veya_victaous Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:53 pm

But if you didn't have the kebabs and Curries .....
You'd be forced to eat English food (Barf, spew  No  No  No  No )

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:03 pm

veya_victaous wrote:But if you didn't have the kebabs and Curries .....
You'd be forced to eat English food (Barf, spew  No  No  No  No )

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Curries where i undestand invented by the english in the first instance

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:04 pm

veya_victaous wrote:But if you didn't have the kebabs and Curries .....
You'd be forced to eat English food (Barf, spew  No  No  No  No )

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faggots and tripe yukkkkkk (ps for the americans both these are foods in the uk )

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:05 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:Should I just go ahead and change the title of this thread to "Foreigners are Filthy, Disgusting Subhumans Who Should Be Kicked Out"?

Only if that's what you think, Ben.

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:06 pm

Korben Dallas wrote:
veya_victaous wrote:But if you didn't have the kebabs and Curries .....
You'd be forced to eat English food (Barf, spew  No  No  No  No )

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faggots and tripe yukkkkkk (ps for the americans both these are foods in the uk  )

Faggots and gravy - yummmm.

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:10 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:
Korben Dallas wrote:
faggots and tripe yukkkkkk (ps for the americans both these are foods in the uk  )

Faggots and gravy - yummmm.
blackpudding or as i prefer to call it dried scabs
haggis i am not overly found of ether
And i don`t eat any birds ether ..they`re all foul  Razz 

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Roast lamb dinner (must have mint sauce though)

 Razz

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:25 pm

Catman wrote:Nearly All Kebab Shops Are Disgusting, Dirty & Extremely Dangerous Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSl-lhGOXHwZUq3W7I6sUXRPOvpvdgSnVGdOW7ps9tF1XnkYELi

Roast lamb dinner (must have mint sauce though)

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Oooooooooo, looks nice Mr Catman.

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:31 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:
Catman wrote:Nearly All Kebab Shops Are Disgusting, Dirty & Extremely Dangerous Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSl-lhGOXHwZUq3W7I6sUXRPOvpvdgSnVGdOW7ps9tF1XnkYELi

Roast lamb dinner (must have mint sauce though)

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Oooooooooo, looks nice Mr Catman.

I love all the English roast dinners, nothing better imo!  Razz 

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:35 pm

Catman wrote:
BigAndy9 wrote:


Oooooooooo, looks nice Mr Catman.

I love all the English roast dinners, nothing better imo!  Razz 

I couldn't agree more - potatoes, veg and gravy. None of this modern muck like rice and pasta!

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:42 pm

BigAndy9 wrote:
Catman wrote:

I love all the English roast dinners, nothing better imo!  Razz 

I couldn't agree more - potatoes, veg and gravy.  None of this modern muck like rice and pasta!

It's my personal preference that i've always enjoyed English food more. I've tried other dishes like Chinese, Indian, Pasta (like pizza though)...etc..

Don't like them much.

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Post by veya_victaous Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:47 pm

geezez talk about meat and heat. what did the Cook do? whack it in a hot box a left it  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes 

I like Food where the chef used some skills
Nearly All Kebab Shops Are Disgusting, Dirty & Extremely Dangerous Dim-Sum



Dammit it's ony quarter to 10 in the morning and now I am Hungry.
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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:02 pm

veya_victaous wrote:geezez talk about meat and heat. what did the Cook do? whack it in a hot box a left it  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes 

I like Food where the chef used some skills
Nearly All Kebab Shops Are Disgusting, Dirty & Extremely Dangerous Dim-Sum



Dammit it's ony quarter to 10 in the morning and now I am Hungry.

 affraid ..Nothing appeals to me there!  Laughing 

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:03 pm

Is that from 'I'm a celebrity get me out of here'  lol!  

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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:09 pm

The best things to eat in Texas are:

Tex-Mex:

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And of course, we love our barbecue:

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:10 pm

The strawberries look ok.

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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:11 pm

It's all delicious and you'd think your taste buds had never properly worked before!!!!!! Smile
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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:17 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:It's all delicious and you'd think your taste buds had never properly worked before!!!!!! Smile

The cucumber and tomatoes look fine....Is the food spicy then?  ::zomb:: 

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:20 pm

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....With a slice of tomato on top..Can't get enough of those in the summer!  Razz 

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Post by Ben Reilly Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:26 pm

Catman wrote:
Ben_Reilly wrote:It's all delicious and you'd think your taste buds had never properly worked before!!!!!! Smile

The cucumber and tomatoes look fine....Is the food spicy then?  ::zomb:: 

You would probably find it unbearably so, yes. I hate eating Mexican food made north of me, actually -- even in other states in the U.S. it's far too mild.

Then again, I also like to sprinkle this liberally over everything:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habanero
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Ben_Reilly wrote:
Catman wrote:

The cucumber and tomatoes look fine....Is the food spicy then?  ::zomb:: 

You would probably find it unbearably so, yes. I hate eating Mexican food made north of me, actually -- even in other states in the U.S. it's far too mild.

Then again, I also like to sprinkle this liberally over everything:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habanero

My taste buds were never really up to the mildest of curry's.....But each to their own!  Cool 

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Post by veya_victaous Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:30 am

@Catman
no its a yum cha lunch (pretty much everything is filled with Pork or Prawns or both  :D )
Pretty normal here, all very tasty. (plus Cutting up food at the table,  :::grouch::  :::grouch::  :::grouch::  how uncivilized the Chef should prepare everything before he serves it, not expect the dinners to do half the work  ::troll:: I stole that from chinese friends but 100% agree)

@ben
I got a few Habanero plants growing quite well, this will be the second season so they should be nice and hot. I got a Ghost Chilli (Bhut Jolokia) Plant as well but it hasn't produced any fruit yet, but had a little off a friends plant is is Insane, Super hot until it turned half my face numb, sort of like when the dentist give you a needle. Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:22 am

Holy crap, a Bhut Jolokia! Always wanted to try that, I bet it's great on tacos Smile

What's the rest of the taste like (or have you been able to detect that through the heat yet)? I like the sweet-ish tang of habaneros.
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Ben_Reilly wrote:Holy crap, a Bhut Jolokia! Always wanted to try that, I bet it's great on tacos Smile

What's the rest of the taste like (or have you been able to detect that through the heat yet)? I like the sweet-ish tang of habaneros.

I think that i've asked this question before....But is air conditioning cheaper than gas, in the US & OZ?

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Post by Ben Reilly Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:36 am

I think it's more expensive -- I haven't paid a gas bill in a while, as my last two apartments have been all-electric, but when I did it never seemed to cost as much.

My electric is a bit more expensive than average as well, because I have my power company's 100% renewable plan.
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Ben_Reilly wrote:I think it's more expensive -- I haven't paid a gas bill in a while, as my last two apartments have been all-electric, but when I did it never seemed to cost as much.

My electric is a bit more expensive than average as well, because I have my power company's 100% renewable plan.

I think that it's common sense, that's it's going to cost people so much more on energy, if they live in a colder climate.

I think that the major corporations are exploiting that fact here in the UK, of course, i've found it very easy to switch plans, between one energy supplier to another on quite a regular basis, you can actually barter with them over prices and the on line duel fuel tariffs are always the best!

You just tell them how much you want to pay, within reason, and they just give it to you at what you say, by monthly direct debit!

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There are a few smaller energy firms coming on line here in the UK, will be doing another switch very soon!  cheers 

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Post by veya_victaous Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:59 am

@catman
about the same most of us have reverse cycle aircon so it does both hot and cold.
(I just use a Fans at home, but most of my day is spent in an Aircon'd office)
We dont have the furnace/boiler things you apparently have in your buildings


@ben
quite similar to Habaneros crossed with a Trinidad Scorpion Chili. Taste is very complex, it is a mutlilevel heat for the first bit. I have some powder that i use so know the taste more from that, it is ridiculously hot, 1 teaspoon renders 1kg of meat inedible to non-chilli eaters. I normally use it to make 'my mexican' which is more like a texan meat and bean chili than real mexican.
The Fresh one was honestly more like drugs, after about 5 mins it stopped being hot because half my face went numb, as in unable to lift you eyebrows or control the corners of your mouth numb, very similar to after the dentist. (I have done this 'eat stupid hot thing' before and know just use half your mouth to limit damage but Bhut Jolokia is just insane)

And holy shit people are insane, because it is rated number 5 (the top 4 are cross breeds)
http://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topics/science-environment/2011/09/the-worlds-10-hottest-chillies/
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veya_victaous wrote:@catman
about the same most of us have reverse cycle aircon so it does both hot and cold.
(I just use a Fans at home, but most of my day is spent in an Aircon'd office)
We dont have the furnace/boiler things you apparently have in your buildings


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quite similar to Habaneros crossed with a Trinidad Scorpion Chili. Taste is very complex, it is a mutlilevel heat for the first bit. I have some powder that i use so know the taste more from that, it is ridiculously hot, 1 teaspoon renders 1kg of meat inedible to non-chilli eaters. I normally use it to make 'my mexican' which is more like a texan meat and bean chili than real mexican.
The Fresh one was honestly more like drugs, after about 5 mins it stopped being hot because half my face went numb, as in unable to lift you eyebrows or control the corners of your mouth numb, very similar to after the dentist. (I have done this 'eat stupid hot thing' before and know just use half your mouth to limit damage but Bhut Jolokia is just insane)

And holy shit people are insane, because it is rated number 5 (the top 4 are cross breeds)
http://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topics/science-environment/2011/09/the-worlds-10-hottest-chillies/

We have the boiler in our bedroom, it makes a whooshing noise when you put the heating on, or run the water etc!  Evil or Very Mad 

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...Yesterday, the young woman living upstairs from us, knocked on our door...'have you got damp, in your bedroom' ????

...I told her that we've had it for years, but they will just blame it on condensation!

They got some cowboys to put in the damp course, and then it failed!

....So, they knew that there was damp here then!

She said....Well i will go to the CAB....I said good luck with that!!!!


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...I said, they couldn't even be bothered to fix the situation before the cuts!!!!

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Post by Original Quill Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:26 am

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Catman wrote:

The cucumber and tomatoes look fine....Is the food spicy then?  ::zomb:: 

You would probably find it unbearably so, yes. I hate eating Mexican food made north of me, actually -- even in other states in the U.S. it's far too mild.

Then again, I also like to sprinkle this liberally over everything:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habanero

You've got that Tex-Mex thing: Red meat and red sauces. Arizona, or Papago food, is much better. More delicate, with a variety of cheeses. Or, yes, Tijuana. Whatever you may say about Tijuana, it has Mexican sea food down to an art. The Sea Food restaurants along Avenida Revolution are to die for.

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Owner of Oldham takeaway fined £4k over filthy kitchen
15 Jan 2014 06:00

Hygiene officials found food-pans caked in grease and dirty walls with peeling paint at the shop, on Lees Road, Oldham






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Post by Guest Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:10 pm

One Kebab shop out of 20,000 fined, shocking

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Ditto.

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One of the Most recent cases prosecuted , but I can post many other instances , soon.

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Post by Guest Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:12 pm

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One of the Most recent cases prosecuted , but I can post many other instances , soon.


So can you show comparisons to other fast food shops as well and show the numbers on each which are prosecuted to provide a telling view for all to see?

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Post by ALLAKAKA Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:19 pm

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THE OWNER of a dirty takeaway in Gnosall - where pots and pans with food inside were stored on the floor - has been fined £2,000.

Shafique Ali, 38, manager of Bengal Spice, was prosecuted by Stafford Borough Council after environmental health inspectors found the kitchen floor and walls were filthy.

Stafford magistrates also heard raw meat was kept above fresh yoghurt, and two bowls of cooked rice were left out of a fridge for five hours.

Simon Turner, prosecuting for Stafford Borough Council, told the court the takeaway in Station Road had been warned about standards in April but continued to flout regulations .

“Environmental health officer, Helga Gray, returned to the premises in August because the council wanted to avoid prosecuting a business if it was putting the necessary standards in place,” he said.

“But she found Mr Ali had made little effort to comply with the advice and regulations, with coriander left in a hand wash basin, unclean thermometers, pots and pans with food inside being stored on the floor, and dirty walls and floors.” Mr Ali was was fined £2,000 and ordered to pay £350 costs when he admitted four breaches under the Food Hygiene Regulations 2006 between April and August this year.

After the hearing, Councillor Stan Highfield, cabinet member for environment and health, said: “Somebody could have become very ill because of the poor standards of hygiene at this business.

“I hope this prosecution sends a clear message to all food premises in the borough.

“They showed complete disregard to the advice of our environmental health officers and we take this very seriously as our first priority is the protection and safety of the public.


Read more: http://www.staffordshirenewsletter.co.uk/2000-fine-owner-dirty-takeaway/story-20151808-detail/story.html#ixzz2qUpy2OYA

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