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veya_victaous wrote:eddie wrote:I love all the woe is me and scared attitudes!
Talk about have no faith in your political parties and fellow countryman to make your country great!
People that are full of woe are like that by nature.
Look in it as a positive change and it will be.
so the change so far is that
if you had 10,000 pounds and converted it to US dollars a week ago you have got 18,000 US dollars
now you will only get 13,500 US dollars.
more bullshit from the Auzzie sheep shagger
on 17th of june...(one week ago) you would have got 14363 USD for 10000 pound
just now you get 13787
not QUITE the drop veya claims
here we see the classic "money man " hyperbole and crap....
if you have shares ...just sit on them and wait......
in fact get some more while the going is good.....
NOW is "BUY" time
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Fight the fear and intolerance that made people vote out.
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sassy wrote:Fight the fear and intolerance that made people vote out.
Because of course...its ALL about racism isnt it....
thats te problem with the remainers and the lefties
EVERYTHING in the world revolves around xenophobia......
even if you simply dont like te excessive and unwarranted regulation from an unelected commission....you are ergo xenophobic
even if you dont want what is merely yet another layer of corrupt officialdom sucking out money .......you are xenophobic....
YES there is an element of dislike of uncontrolled and unregulated immigration
YES there is a strong dislike of the corrupt "E.U" passport scheme
but of course
the "top end" (both tory AND labour) want to reap the benefits (to them) of cheap labour (and therefore depressed wages) high rents
whilst not giving a damn about the downside on the rest of us...
what we want NOW ....is a wipeing of the slate of ALL present politicians....
and a totally new start....
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Yes, it was all about racism and blaming immigrants for the cuts the Government had made to the NHS, schools etc etc. It was all about racism and pandering to the lowest common denominator.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDGBP:CUR
ok about a month ago
let alone a year ago
you were already down a week ago
ok about a month ago
let alone a year ago
you were already down a week ago
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The £120 billion that was wiped off the FTSE100 in 10 minutes this morning was enough to have paid EU membership fees for 9 years.
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The FTSE 250 index has slumped 11.4 per cent this morning, putting it on track for its worst decline on record after the UK voted to leave the EU.
The FTSE 250’s next worst drop was a 10.8 per cent drop in 1987.
The FTSE 250, which is largely made up of domestic focused stocks, is feeling the pain more acutely than the more internationally-oriented FTSE 100, which is off “only” 7.5 per cent.
http://www.ft.com/fastft/2016/06/24/ftse-250-drops-11-4-worst-drop-ever/
The FTSE 250’s next worst drop was a 10.8 per cent drop in 1987.
The FTSE 250, which is largely made up of domestic focused stocks, is feeling the pain more acutely than the more internationally-oriented FTSE 100, which is off “only” 7.5 per cent.
http://www.ft.com/fastft/2016/06/24/ftse-250-drops-11-4-worst-drop-ever/
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Analysts said anti-EU sentiment was running unexpectedly strong in northern English cities hits hard hit by industrial decline and job losses, with broad swathes of England and Wales recording “leave” majorities.
Strong pro-EU votes in the economic and cultural powerhouse of London and semi-autonomous Scotland were countered by sweeping anti-Establishment sentiment for an exit across the rest of England, from southern seaside towns to rust-belt former industrial powerhouses in the north.
“The appeal of the anti-Establishment populist argument that we need to take back control of our borders and immigration ... proved stronger than the economic risks that Brexit would entail,” Queen Mary, University of London professor of politics Tim Bale said.
“I think people are soon going to find out that the promise of the ‘leave’ campaign cannot possibly be realised.”
http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/appeal-of-border-control-trumps-economy-as-brexit-triumphant/news-story/47c532a74912e7e2d7b14062a39bff1d
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So sassy you are saying that the only people who voted "leave" wore shirts with the Englsih flag on it and were racist
You sound like a petulant child.
Perhaps lots of people never wanted to be in the EU - we never voted to be in the EU we voted for the common market. Not the same thing.
You sound like a petulant child.
Perhaps lots of people never wanted to be in the EU - we never voted to be in the EU we voted for the common market. Not the same thing.
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No Eddie, I sound like someone with a wide angle lens who can see the chaos that's coming and what it is going to allow the RW of the Conservative Party to do, and it won't be pretty.
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Well I'm sure the other European countries must know the same info as you yet they still want a choice.
Seems you believe Cameron for once too.
Seems you believe Cameron for once too.
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No I don't believe Cameron,O our stance was completely different, but the the media made sure you didn't hear it.. It was there to find though. It was to protect us from the excesses of Cameron, Osborne, Boris et al
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eddie...unless you are a lefty, immigrant loving, child rapist welcoming, happy to take the risk of terrorism (on others behalf of course, never for yourself) low wage high rent happy hate your own people misey....you are a RACIST havnt you worked it out yet...
See eddie ...you dont hate white english folks (including yourself) enough....
See eddie ...you dont hate white english folks (including yourself) enough....
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just seen one headline...
"investors 'terified' at chaos caused by Brexit"
feckin idiots....THEY CAUSED the chaos.....THEY are the "money market" they are in a pit of their own making.....
"investors 'terified' at chaos caused by Brexit"
feckin idiots....THEY CAUSED the chaos.....THEY are the "money market" they are in a pit of their own making.....
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sassy wrote:What a load of bullshit.
and not a refutation in sight....
the standard answer when you CANT answer........
oh and your leader sucks.....
he couldnt lead a pissup in a brewery....
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I predict the Conservative party will take a profound lurch to the right in the next year.
The moderates will be eased out , and the cabinet will be filled with NHS hating,foreigner hating,xenophobic far right with similar ideology as Farage.
The moderates will be eased out , and the cabinet will be filled with NHS hating,foreigner hating,xenophobic far right with similar ideology as Farage.
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Lord Foul wrote:eddie...unless you are a lefty, immigrant loving, child rapist welcoming, happy to take the risk of terrorism (on others behalf of course, never for yourself) low wage high rent happy hate your own people misey....you are a RACIST havnt you worked it out yet...
See eddie ...you dont hate white english folks (including yourself) enough....
Oh Vic I know that.
I don't wring my hands enough and say sorry.
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Lord Foul wrote:just seen one headline...
"investors 'terified' at chaos caused by Brexit"
feckin idiots....THEY CAUSED the chaos.....THEY are the "money market" they are in a pit of their own making.....
Yeah that is the way they work
that is why it is a self fulfilling prophecy
they get scared say their scared that scares more. downward cycle
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Handy Andy wrote:I predict the Conservative party will take a profound lurch to the right in the next year.
The moderates will be eased out , and the cabinet will be filled with NHS hating,foreigner hating,xenophobic far right with similar ideology as Farage.
Well you voted OUT
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We never voted to be in the EU in the first place. Hasn't anyone considered that?
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@eddie
lots of peoples have be driven by circumstance
I don't think anyone has really been able to vote themselves out of 'circumstance' before
reality is long term (over 30 years) this cannot be good for the UK,
mid term (5-30 years) might be ok, depends on leadership
short term... well you can see the stock market graphs
lots of peoples have be driven by circumstance
I don't think anyone has really been able to vote themselves out of 'circumstance' before
reality is long term (over 30 years) this cannot be good for the UK,
mid term (5-30 years) might be ok, depends on leadership
short term... well you can see the stock market graphs
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Veya, all I know is this; many many people felt that what we had wasn't working.
So what did everyone expect?
Most people who voted remain did so out of fear and everyone, voted selfishly.
So what did everyone expect?
Most people who voted remain did so out of fear and everyone, voted selfishly.
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expected more people to vote with reasoning, to be more forward thinking.
Like people have said so have voted for this pretty huge thing because of hatred of a current PM.. doesn;t seem liek there is much sense or long term appreciation of global circumstances.
Cause not even an Island stands alone
Like people have said so have voted for this pretty huge thing because of hatred of a current PM.. doesn;t seem liek there is much sense or long term appreciation of global circumstances.
Cause not even an Island stands alone
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The STOCK mARKETS GO UP AND DOWN LIKE A WHORES DRAWERS, IT WILL SETTLE DOWN SOON.
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nice onr nicko...
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nicko wrote:The STOCK mARKETS GO UP AND DOWN LIKE A WHORES DRAWERS, IT WILL SETTLE DOWN SOON.
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theres a lot of sense in that Veya.....
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it always makes sense to grab a pint
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Members of the Labour Party have submitted a no-confidence motion in leader Jeremy Corbyn.
The motion was filed by senior Labour MP Dame Margaret Hodge and seconded by Ann Coffey.
Sky's political editor Faisal Islam says the motion "comes as no surprise" given "obvious concerns" among the parliamentary Labour party in light of the referendum result.
He said some MPs "now clearly feel that his less than fulsome support for the European union has played a part" in the UK voting to leave the EU.
Labour MP Angela Smith earlier told Sky News that Mr Corbyn should consider his position as party leader.
And he's surprised???
the sooner they rid themselves of this man hole collecting nerd of a millstone round their neck the better.....
The motion was filed by senior Labour MP Dame Margaret Hodge and seconded by Ann Coffey.
Sky's political editor Faisal Islam says the motion "comes as no surprise" given "obvious concerns" among the parliamentary Labour party in light of the referendum result.
He said some MPs "now clearly feel that his less than fulsome support for the European union has played a part" in the UK voting to leave the EU.
Labour MP Angela Smith earlier told Sky News that Mr Corbyn should consider his position as party leader.
And he's surprised???
the sooner they rid themselves of this man hole collecting nerd of a millstone round their neck the better.....
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nicko wrote:The STOCK mARKETS GO UP AND DOWN LIKE A WHORES DRAWERS, IT WILL SETTLE DOWN SOON.
True...and it can have huge dips and surges based on what happens elsewhere....this time it's what has happened here, but it'll balance out soon enough.
I look forwards to the future now, especially for our kids and grandkids. Not being shackled by faceless bureaucrats, being in control of our own country, hopefully Great Britain will be great again, in a different way, but great none the less.
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A very fine day for Democracy!!!
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As for people who voted out being branded as ignorant and racist...I don't understand that point of view.
Hopefully a points system will be introduced for people who want to live here.
Hopefully we will still welcome genuine refugees and asylum seekers who want to escape their lives of hell and start off in a country where they will be valued ...giving them a chance to contribute here.
It's all unchartered territory and it'll take time....but I believe the future of GB will be brighter now than it ever could have been had we been too scared to make the change.
Hopefully a points system will be introduced for people who want to live here.
Hopefully we will still welcome genuine refugees and asylum seekers who want to escape their lives of hell and start off in a country where they will be valued ...giving them a chance to contribute here.
It's all unchartered territory and it'll take time....but I believe the future of GB will be brighter now than it ever could have been had we been too scared to make the change.
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Lord Foul wrote:Members of the Labour Party have submitted a no-confidence motion in leader Jeremy Corbyn.
The motion was filed by senior Labour MP Dame Margaret Hodge and seconded by Ann Coffey.
Sky's political editor Faisal Islam says the motion "comes as no surprise" given "obvious concerns" among the parliamentary Labour party in light of the referendum result.
He said some MPs "now clearly feel that his less than fulsome support for the European union has played a part" in the UK voting to leave the EU.
Labour MP Angela Smith earlier told Sky News that Mr Corbyn should consider his position as party leader.
And he's surprised???
the sooner they rid themselves of this man hole collecting nerd of a millstone round their neck the better.....
I just caught that on the news. His party members have said he led with no conviction at all.
Shame if he goes as he didn't get a chance really. I sit in the middle so have the luxury of being unbiased, and I'd like to think he got a chance.
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Syl wrote:As for people who voted out being branded as ignorant and racist...I don't understand that point of view.
Hopefully a points system will be introduced for people who want to live here.
Hopefully we will still welcome genuine refugees and asylum seekers who want to escape their lives of hell and start off in a country where they will be valued ...giving them a chance to contribute here.
It's all unchartered territory and it'll take time....but I believe the future of GB will be brighter now than it ever could have been had we been too scared to make the change.
I echo this post completely. Well said Syl
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Corbyn has always been anti eu... but since becoming labour leader he has been told to support eu...
He should have stuck with his beliefs and showed some integrity!!!
The problem with the labour twats is they have been alienating their core voters for years and years but still think they are right and the people are wrong!
He should have stuck with his beliefs and showed some integrity!!!
The problem with the labour twats is they have been alienating their core voters for years and years but still think they are right and the people are wrong!
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Tommy Monk wrote:Corbyn has always been anti eu... but since becoming labour leader he has been told to support eu...
He should have stuck with his beliefs and showed some integrity!!!
The problem with the labour twats is they have been alienating their core voters for years and years but still think they are right and the people are wrong!
That shows what happens if you don't go with your heart I suppose.
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People are turning away from labour because labour are following a different agenda to what the voters want!
They need to stop living in denial and trying to say the voters are wrong and start kicking out all the 'progressive' anti british pro immigrant pro Muslim luvvies who have been ruining the country since 1997!!!
They need to stop living in denial and trying to say the voters are wrong and start kicking out all the 'progressive' anti british pro immigrant pro Muslim luvvies who have been ruining the country since 1997!!!
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A grewt day for democracy and an even better day to further prove the conspiracy theorists wrong. I wanted to stay in but have to accept people have voted to leave based on many reasons and the most is because for the last few decades the people simply have been ignored by Governements. The EU was great as a principle, but they failed to see how countries would have a massive disparity in wages which would effect the balance of immigration. People had been fine with immigration, unitl it got out of control in numbers. This scares people and when we do have more people coming in than we can build fast enough infrustructure it is always going to effect people throughout the country. Now there is no excuses to now place the neds of the homeless as a priority once this transition is complete. To help many of our soldiers, with injuries mental health issues and place proper facilities in order that they can adjust back into civillian life, as too many are ending up on the streets. Now there is no excuses to look out for these that most need help. We should still very much play our part with refugees, as that should never change, but its clear we do no need to have some form of control on immigration. One that allows for infurstructure to be built in line with a capped level of immigration
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+1 Didge...
of course the regressive lefties will now cry about how bad democracy is...(if you are a lefty , democracy is only OK while it follows your dictats)
see how suddenly the lefties are shouting "all the "outers" are racists"...(standard lefty response from SIXHIRB) when they dont fall into line
when the reality is.....MOST folks are just pissed with the way the EU behaves.....
of course the regressive lefties will now cry about how bad democracy is...(if you are a lefty , democracy is only OK while it follows your dictats)
see how suddenly the lefties are shouting "all the "outers" are racists"...(standard lefty response from SIXHIRB) when they dont fall into line
when the reality is.....MOST folks are just pissed with the way the EU behaves.....
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Good post Didge. Totally agree.
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I see the lefty scum have started a petition to subvert the democratic principles....
they want a second go "cos the turnout was below 75% and the result less than 60%
bet they would be singing a different tune if they had won by the same margin....
bastards....
they want a second go "cos the turnout was below 75% and the result less than 60%
bet they would be singing a different tune if they had won by the same margin....
bastards....
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BTW...what euro business leaders (as opposed to the unelected, anti democratic and wholey dictatorial commission)
are saying
A German industry boss has said it would be "very, very foolish" to impose tariffs on UK goods if Britain votes to leave the EU.
Markus Kerber, the head of BDI, or federation of German industries, is urging Germany and the EU to create a free-trade regime that could be imposed in the event of Brexit.
"Imposing trade barriers, imposing protectionist measures between our two countries - or between the two political centres, the European Union on the one hand and the UK on the other - would be a very, very foolish thing in the 21st century," Mr Kerber told the BBC's World Service.
"The BDI would urge politicians on both sides to come up with a trade regime that enables us to uphold and maintain the levels of trade we have, although it will become more difficult."
from..... http://news.sky.com/story/1715796/eu-trade-barriers-with-uk-would-be-foolish
are saying
A German industry boss has said it would be "very, very foolish" to impose tariffs on UK goods if Britain votes to leave the EU.
Markus Kerber, the head of BDI, or federation of German industries, is urging Germany and the EU to create a free-trade regime that could be imposed in the event of Brexit.
"Imposing trade barriers, imposing protectionist measures between our two countries - or between the two political centres, the European Union on the one hand and the UK on the other - would be a very, very foolish thing in the 21st century," Mr Kerber told the BBC's World Service.
"The BDI would urge politicians on both sides to come up with a trade regime that enables us to uphold and maintain the levels of trade we have, although it will become more difficult."
from..... http://news.sky.com/story/1715796/eu-trade-barriers-with-uk-would-be-foolish
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Well Well....6hrs in and the FTSE 100 has regained half of what it lost and is continuing to rise
the pound is regaining strenght across a large range of currencies....
"oh woe woe" say the ides of leftism "woe and woe again"
PRATS
the pound is regaining strenght across a large range of currencies....
"oh woe woe" say the ides of leftism "woe and woe again"
PRATS
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It is the result of financial speculators doing what they normally do... speculating!!!
They drive markets a lot themselves by their speculating... loads were short selling the pound so inevitably it lost value... then when it hits a low... they all start buying it again!!!
They drive markets a lot themselves by their speculating... loads were short selling the pound so inevitably it lost value... then when it hits a low... they all start buying it again!!!
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Lord Foul wrote:+1 Didge...
of course the regressive lefties will now cry about how bad democracy is...(if you are a lefty , democracy is only OK while it follows your dictats)
see how suddenly the lefties are shouting "all the "outers" are racists"...(standard lefty response from SIXHIRB) when they dont fall into line
when the reality is.....MOST folks are just pissed with the way the EU behaves.....
Thank you Victor and eddie
I can certainly be humble in defeat. I agree that for the majority of people, this has nothing to do with racism, but the reality for too long, people have felt they have had no say, in the countries future. I am interested now to see how things pan out going forward. as this is certainly new territory, we are now all in. One I hope that you and others were right, that it will be a successful move by the UK. Only time will tell on this, but now more than anything, we need strong leadership. Someone who is not going to fold to any EU demands on negotiations going forward. That wont be Farage, Camerion or Corbyn. Of which I see the later has been an abject failure for Labour who are centering blame upon him. That is what you get when you elect a militant commie who panders to terrorists. I am not sure who should lead, but it has to be someone who is charismatic and can lead the nation. I think camerin should step down now.
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Anyone for a glass of champagne...?
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sassy wrote:The £120 billion that was wiped off the FTSE100 in 10 minutes this morning was enough to have paid EU membership fees for 9 years.
That's not real money though.
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Sassy's reasoning is deeply flawed... as usual...!!!
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