The truth about the eu free movement rules and why non eu immigration is so high

Tommy Monk wrote:Vote out of the EU madness!!!


It is eu free movement rules that is allowing mass immigration from non eu countries too!!!



The truth is in the op that I posted... but hidden from the British public!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:"...It gives EEA citizens the right of free movement and residence across the European Economic Area, as long as they are not an undue burden on the country of residence and have comprehensive health insurance.[1] This right also extends to close family members that are not EEA citizens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Movement_Directive
So it looks like non eu nationals can also get here under eu free movement rules!!!
We must vote leave to end the madness and regain control of our country!!!

Scope

The directive applies to any EEA citizen that is moving to and living in an EEA state other than his own. (The exclusion is based on the principle of non-interference with purely national issues). However, it also applies when a European citizen is moving back to his home country after staying abroad, as defined in the case of Surinder Singh.^[2] For dual citizens with two EEA nationalities the directive can apply in any EEA state. Temporary limitations are in place for the new member states of the EU.
To be fully covered by the European right of free movement, the EEA citizen needs to exercise one of the four treaty rights:

• working as an employee (this includes looking for work for a reasonable amount of time),
  
• working as a self-employed person,
  
• studying,
  
• being self-sufficient or retired.
  

These rights are named after the Treaty of Rome, which defines the freedom of movement for workers. They have been extended over time, and are mainly of historical significance by now, since being self-sufficient has been added to the list. As long as a citizen has sufficient money or income not to rely on public funds and holds comprehensive health insurance, he/she exercises one or more treaty rights. If no treaty right is exercised, the right of free movement is limited to three months.

Tommy Monk wrote:What's your point exactly...?

Tommy stated > Vote out of the EU madness!!!
It is eu free movement rules that is allowing mass immigration from non eu countries too!!!
The truth is in the op that I posted... but hidden from the British public!!!

Tommy asked > What do others think about this...?

Tommy Monk wrote:But what is your actual point about what I have posted and how it is wrong...!?

Tommy stated > Vote out of the EU madness!!!
It is eu free movement rules that is allowing mass immigration from non eu countries too!!!
The truth is in the op that I posted... but hidden from the British public!!!

Tommy Monk wrote:What are you wittering on about you senile old bag!?

stardesk wrote:Hi Tommy. Just ignore her Tommy, some people get a buzz out of being rude and/or obstructive. 4Ever my dear lady, you don't have our problem and possibly don't understand the British mentality.

The point is we don't want our country overpopulated by thousands of migrants. We don't want our hospitals overworked and going bankrupt. When we make appointments to see a doctor we want it as soon as possible, not 2 weeks later. We want our schools to teach our children and see them play with their own kind, not a load of foreign kids. We want to go into shops and garages that are not run by foreigners and women at the check-out who don't fit in.

I could go on and on but let the above suffice for now.

HoratioTarr wrote:Everybody I speak to wants out.    

'Brexit' could have economic, political downsides for U.S. business

Roger Yu, USA TODAY 3 p.m. EDT June 14, 2016

Pro-Brexit flags fly from a fishing boat June 13, 2016, moored in Ramsgate in Kent, on the eastern shore of England.(Photo: Chris J. Ratcliffe, AFP/Getty Images)

J.P. Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon visited the banking giant's British corporate office in the seaside city of Bournemouth this month to deliver a chilling message to employees: “As many as 4,000” J.P. Morgan jobs in the United Kingdom — about a quarter of the U.K. workforce — could be cut if Britons vote next week to leave the European Union.
The June 23 referendum on a “Brexit,” or British exit from the 28-member union, will determine if the country severs its close economic and political ties with continental Europe and chart its own course in national security, economic policies and immigration laws.
For American business executives like Dimon, a Brexit would be bad news for U.S. companies that have outsized global business interests, which is why they are lobbying for the U.K. to remain a member. “Today, we can service EU companies here freely, with systems, technology, research, investment banking, sales and trading. We can do it here,” Dimon said. “After a Brexit, we cannot do it all here and we are going to have to start planning for that.”
​Brexit proponents argue that the U.K. would fare better in the long run by setting its own economic and political agenda, free from the EU’s regulation-heavy interference and able to pursue its own, more stringent immigration policies.
Analysts in the United States, however, don't see it that way. They say Britain's departure from the EU could trigger lasting economic and political problems for U.S. companies. That's particularly true for banking, since London is currently the financial center for Europe.
For decades, the U.S. has championed a common economic and political bloc in Europe, and any signs of its disintegration with the United State's largest trading partner is contrary to U.S. interests, said Joao Gomes, a finance professor at Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. “We’re talking about a shock,” Gomes said.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/06/14/brexit-could-have-economic-political-downsides-us-business/85845002/

veya_victaous wrote:I heard on the share market summary this morning, 26 billion already wiped out of the British economy based on possibilty of leaving EU  

veya_victaous wrote:
I heard on the share market summary this morning, 26 billion already wiped out of the British economy based on possibilty of leaving EU  

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:
I heard on the share market summary this morning, 26 billion already wiped out of the British economy based on possibilty of leaving EU  

WHAT I have to laugh at is the hysteria gripping some of the newsreaders over here...

A genuine stockmarket "plunge" is when we see the total share value in a country crash by 10%-->>20% or more in one day, or maybe 20-->40% in a week (as was seen when the GFC hit home back in 2008..).
OR AS we have seen in the UK this week..

The NY stock exchange dropped 4% on Tuesday, on worries over Brexit..
The Oz stock market is down around 4% so far this week, reacting to international dips in share values, and investment funds moving across into "safer" currencies as they rebalance their books.
And last night, ignorant Aussie reporters were (preemptively ?) calling a 4% dip here a "plunge" !

I WONDER what adjectives they will resort to, next time we see a genuine "plunge" down here ???      
 

4EVER2 wrote:Well, from outside the spectrum of that quaint little island; all I can do is hope that the voters chose wisely and actually 'THINK INDEPENDENTLY' ...because those voters that just become sheeple often live to regret how they were so deceived by the misinformation provided to them to earn their votes! 

Tommy Monk wrote:Anybody...!?

Tommy Monk wrote:
Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant.
Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant.
Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company who have trashed our steel works and emptied the workers pension funds.
Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant.
British Army's new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales.
Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan.
Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200.
M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan.
Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants.
Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant.
Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant.
Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant.
Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding.
Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing.
ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK, were closed, eliminating 3,500 jobs
Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year, using an EU loan for the purchase.
JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU 'regeneration' grants, created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean-up paid for by the UK tax-payer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry.
UK airports are owned by a Spanish company.
Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company.
Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies.
The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online.
Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it's Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada.
39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU
The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently.

Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn't paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK. Name me one major technology company still running in the UK, I used to contract out to many, then the work just dried up as they were sold off to companies from France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc., and now we don't even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations.

I haven't detailed our non-existent fishing industry the EU paid to destroy, nor the farmers being paid NOT to produce food they could sell for more than they get paid to do nothing, don't even go there.
I haven't mentioned what it costs us to be asset-stripped like this, nor have I mentioned immigration, nor the risk to our security if control of our armed forces is passed to Brussels or Germany.

Find something that's gone the other way, I've looked and I just can't. If you think the EU is a good idea,
1/ You haven't read the party manifesto of The European Peoples' Party.
2/ You haven't had to deal with EU petty bureaucracy tearing your business down.
3/ You don't think it matters.

WHERE'S THE LINK?  This is obviously a well written document from another source ...there's no way Tommykins that this was by your hand    Link, Please ...I do verify and read all of your data sources.

Just because, you've been   one two many times!

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Irn Bru wrote:

Tommy Monk wrote:Anybody...!?

I don't intend to go throught that whole list so I'll just pick one. Show me the evidence that the Scout SV will be built in Spain and that ALL the stel on t will come from Sweden.

That contract was bid for by BAE SYSTEM in Newcastle and they were given the nod by the Labout government but the Tories gave preferred bidder status to American company General Dynamics.

That's just for the record.

And the grant over Cadbury was a grant (loan) to Poland to build a factory using some funds from the EU regional devvelopment fundt and had nothing to do with Cadburys who took up the option to move into that factory. Cadbury was bought by American company Kraft who undertook to keep the Britol factory open when the sale went through and renaged on the committment.

THe UK also gets finding fro that very samr source for development in the UK.

veya_victaous wrote:

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:


WHAT I have to laugh at is the hysteria gripping some of the newsreaders over here...

A genuine stockmarket "plunge" is when we see the total share value in a country crash by 10%-->>20% or more in one day, or maybe 20-->40% in a week (as was seen when the GFC hit home back in 2008..).
OR AS we have seen in the UK this week..

The NY stock exchange dropped 4% on Tuesday, on worries over Brexit..
The Oz stock market is down around 4% so far this week, reacting to international dips in share values, and investment funds moving across into "safer" currencies as they rebalance their books.
And last night, ignorant Aussie reporters were (preemptively ?) calling a 4% dip here a "plunge" !

I WONDER what adjectives they will resort to, next time we see a genuine "plunge" down here ???      
 

If it is of the severity the UK is likely to experience.. I think 'Collapse' maybe

 

Tommy Monk wrote:No I didn't write the list... it is from elsewhere... I never pretended it was my own making...