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The fight for freedom and democracy and against tyranny is officially forgotten here in uk
First topic message reminder :
Hardly a mention of VE Day here in uk this year...
Inconvenient truth for Eu referendum by any chance...!?
https://www.rt.com/news/342307-victory-day-europe-france-germany/
Hardly a mention of VE Day here in uk this year...
Inconvenient truth for Eu referendum by any chance...!?
https://www.rt.com/news/342307-victory-day-europe-france-germany/
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4EVER2 wrote:ROTFLMAO~~~I so enjoy these selective memory mental purges that Didgy supplies us with, given his profound sense of 'SELF' and short term memory problems; it's always a interesting/amusing cluster of bizarre and twisted information to be hold.Paul Ettinger wrote:
I am the one trying to reason where the US should intervene, where its inaction has done nothing to stem Islamic terrorism, but only see it increase and see th deaths of half a million in Syria. That again is negligence by Obama of the worst order.
So you can continue with your boose and deflections all you like, the US is emphatically a joke as a nation with its history, from Vietnam to Iraq.
Especially given the longevity of the English and their need to 'get off the island' and go exploring - concur some lowly quaint place - inhabit some foreign land - make slaves of the locals - knock up a few of the native women - bring religion to the heathens and punish them for their pagan beliefs - pilfer all of their precious gems/raw materials and export those goods back to England and establish a trade system that benefits England 100% and the natives barely enough to sustain a living - and let us not forget that all important drug trade that still lives in infamy to this very day
I guess if 'us English' hadn't gone exploring in America, you wouldn't be here now getting your gussets bunched.
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What the knockers of Britain seem to forget, or deliberately overlook, is that due to adventurers and explorers many years ago, leading to colonization etc, democracy, education, science, medication, transport, dams and power, etc & etc, was brought to the otherwise backward indigenous people. Had the West not improved those countries where would the people be today? Still having tribal conflicts, cannabalism, witchcraft and sacrifices, ignorance of how and why the world/nature works the way it does, still worshipping their mythological gods and goddesses and dancing round totem poles. Dying from obnoxious diseases, many of which the West has now just about eradicated. Scratching in the dirt trying to grow crops instead of tractors etc.
I'll stop there but I'm sure there are other aspects of Westernization that have benefitted foreign countries. Perhaps some of you can name them. Yes ok we took advantage of the gold, diamonds copper etc, but then so did France, Spain, Italy, Holland. BTW, shall we knock the Spanish for the way the colonized parts of South America, for killing over a million Aztecs? The French in Central Africa weren't exactly fairy godmothers.
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I'll stop there but I'm sure there are other aspects of Westernization that have benefitted foreign countries. Perhaps some of you can name them. Yes ok we took advantage of the gold, diamonds copper etc, but then so did France, Spain, Italy, Holland. BTW, shall we knock the Spanish for the way the colonized parts of South America, for killing over a million Aztecs? The French in Central Africa weren't exactly fairy godmothers.
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4EVER2 wrote:ROTFLMAO~~~I so enjoy these selective memory mental purges that Didgy supplies us with, given his profound sense of 'SELF' and short term memory problems; it's always a interesting/amusing cluster of bizarre and twisted information to be hold.Paul Ettinger wrote:
I am the one trying to reason where the US should intervene, where its inaction has done nothing to stem Islamic terrorism, but only see it increase and see th deaths of half a million in Syria. That again is negligence by Obama of the worst order.
So you can continue with your boose and deflections all you like, the US is emphatically a joke as a nation with its history, from Vietnam to Iraq.Paul Ettinger wrote:Gibberish and no point made, just the usual idocy
Especially given the longevity of the English and their need to 'get off the island' and go exploring - concur some lowly quaint place - inhabit some foreign land - make slaves of the locals - knock up a few of the native women - bring religion to the heathens and punish them for their pagan beliefs - pilfer all of their precious gems/raw materials and export those goods back to England and establish a trade system that benefits England 100% and the natives barely enough to sustain a living - and let us not forget that all important drug trade that still lives in infamy to this very dayPaul Ettinger wrote:Yet more gibberish, as many fled persecution or were deported, showing you know next to nothing on history.
In fact many left to attempt to get out of poverty, or religious persecution. Not just England of course, the Irish left in masses during the Potato famine.
So get to the back of the class you idiot, as you have no idea what you are talking about in regards to why many people left
You - Didgy-dooer have been at the acts of war/pillage/rampage/stealing precious materials/valued merchandise/slave trade/indentured servants/forced child labor/forced religion/barbaric prison/torture/screwing over the locals and sticking it to the masses for far greater centuries then the rest of us; give us a chance to learn from your ignorance and massive repetitive mistakesPaul Ettinger wrote:Gibberish and no point made, just the usual idocy
We're trying to learn as we go and - Yes, we'll repeat a few blunders just as jolly ole' England has done - hopefully not on the same grandiose scale but in much smaller doses.Paul Ettinger wrote:Yet more gibberish, the problem is the US continues to make many, and never learn by them
But for the upper echelon and those privatized islands that they are allowed to charter off too with 'Special Dispatch' --- never blink or have any needless worries about the displaced locals that aren't allowed access to their own heritages sights! That would mean you felt, something akin to a human sensation---like empathy!
Paul Ettinger wrote:Gibberish and no point made, just the usual idocy
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HoratioTarr wrote:4EVER2 wrote:
ROTFLMAO~~~I so enjoy these selective memory mental purges that Didgy supplies us with, given his profound sense of 'SELF' and short term memory problems; it's always a interesting/amusing cluster of bizarre and twisted information to be hold.
Especially given the longevity of the English and their need to 'get off the island' and go exploring - concur some lowly quaint place - inhabit some foreign land - make slaves of the locals - knock up a few of the native women - bring religion to the heathens and punish them for their pagan beliefs - pilfer all of their precious gems/raw materials and export those goods back to England and establish a trade system that benefits England 100% and the natives barely enough to sustain a living - and let us not forget that all important drug trade that still lives in infamy to this very day
I guess if 'us English' hadn't gone exploring in America, you wouldn't be here now getting your gussets bunched.
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Don't tell 'em the truth star, they prefer to think of us as colonising bastards,
they forget that their ancesters were as bad or worse.
they forget that their ancesters were as bad or worse.
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HoratioTarr wrote:4EVER2 wrote:
ROTFLMAO~~~I so enjoy these selective memory mental purges that Didgy supplies us with, given his profound sense of 'SELF' and short term memory problems; it's always a interesting/amusing cluster of bizarre and twisted information to be hold.
Especially given the longevity of the English and their need to 'get off the island' and go exploring - concur some lowly quaint place - inhabit some foreign land - make slaves of the locals - knock up a few of the native women - bring religion to the heathens and punish them for their pagan beliefs - pilfer all of their precious gems/raw materials and export those goods back to England and establish a trade system that benefits England 100% and the natives barely enough to sustain a living - and let us not forget that all important drug trade that still lives in infamy to this very day
I guess if 'us English' hadn't gone exploring in America, you wouldn't be here now getting your gussets bunched.
Indeed, and its one thing the Yanks, Aussies hate, the fact we invented their nations
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Paul Ettinger wrote:HoratioTarr wrote:
I guess if 'us English' hadn't gone exploring in America, you wouldn't be here now getting your gussets bunched.
Indeed, and its one thing the Yanks, Aussies hate, the fact we invented their nations
Anyone would think their shit don't stink. All nations have been conquered at some point, it's just the way of the world. It's certainly not unique to the English.
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HoratioTarr wrote:Paul Ettinger wrote:
Indeed, and its one thing the Yanks, Aussies hate, the fact we invented their nations
Anyone would think their shit don't stink. All nations have been conquered at some point, it's just the way of the world. It's certainly not unique to the English.
Exactly, even the English were once conquered, way back in 1066 and the Normans, helped shape the world at that time through their expansion throughout Europe.
I do not see anyone bemoaning the French over this, when they played a huge part in the crusades also.
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What you group of 'WHINERS' seem to have collectively chosen to over look was that your highly {self anointed history professor, Didgy-doooer was the one that started his usual misaligned shit-fest and was called up on his off target rants and utter BS.Paul Ettinger wrote:Exactly, even the English were once conquered, way back in 1066 and the Normans, helped shape the world at that time through their expansion throughout Europe.HoratioTarr wrote:
Anyone would think their shit don't stink. All nations have been conquered at some point, it's just the way of the world. It's certainly not unique to the English.
I do not see anyone bemoaning the French over this, when they played a huge part in the crusades also.
His post to Ben; something about 'dumb - dumb - dumber & head up the arse'...yes, indeed; But you good - ole groupies of 'standby the head fool' didn't bother to read his bilge and now you've really stepped into the
All hail England...long may she waver - waffle - wobble but never fall over! LMAO
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4EVER2 wrote:What you group of 'WHINERS' seem to have collectively chosen to over look was that your highly {self anointed history professor, Didgy-doooer was the one that started his usual misaligned shit-fest and was called up on his off target rants and utter BS.Paul Ettinger wrote:
Exactly, even the English were once conquered, way back in 1066 and the Normans, helped shape the world at that time through their expansion throughout Europe.
I do not see anyone bemoaning the French over this, when they played a huge part in the crusades also.
His post to Ben; something about 'dumb - dumb - dumber & head up the arse'...yes, indeed; But you good - ole groupies of 'standby the head fool' didn't bother to read his bilge and now you've really stepped into the
All hail England...long may she waver - waffle - wobble but never fall over! LMAO
A greenie for that just cause it made me giggle. I like her style...
Now y'all havin' a hissy-fit or sumpin', let's resume the festivities:
Y'all gotta be thirsty??
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Done with buying the 'history buffoon' more beers...he couldn't even support his lame/limp/attacks after my post...but allowed his posse to join the 'howling rejoinder' {smoke & mirrors}!!!
So just shove little Didgy-dooer to the center of the circle and lets all blow smoke at him...he can't hold his breath forever!
So just shove little Didgy-dooer to the center of the circle and lets all blow smoke at him...he can't hold his breath forever!
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Paul Ettinger wrote:HoratioTarr wrote:
Anyone would think their shit don't stink. All nations have been conquered at some point, it's just the way of the world. It's certainly not unique to the English.
Exactly, even the English were once conquered, way back in 1066 and the Normans, helped shape the world at that time through their expansion throughout Europe.
I do not see anyone bemoaning the French over this, when they played a huge part in the crusades also.
That's because the Normans were not French. They were--as the name suggests--Norse Men. Vikings, gone walk-about.
Northern France was just one of the places they stopped to have a look-see. They also were big on Sicily. The Franks were a different group altogether.
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4EVER2 wrote:Paul Ettinger wrote:
Exactly, even the English were once conquered, way back in 1066 and the Normans, helped shape the world at that time through their expansion throughout Europe.
I do not see anyone bemoaning the French over this, when they played a huge part in the crusades also.
What you group of 'WHINERS' seem to have collectively chosen to over look was that your highly {self anointed history professor, Didgy-doooer was the one that started his usual misaligned shit-fest and was called up on his off target rants and utter BS.
His post to Ben; something about 'dumb - dumb - dumber & head up the arse'...yes, indeed; But you good - ole groupies of 'standby the head fool' didn't bother to read his bilge and now you've really stepped into the
All hail England...long may she waver - waffle - wobble but never fall over! LMAO
Well that shows you are now lying as my post was to Quill and not Ben, showing you are inventing things
As seen Quill is quite the fraud on history and so many times I have had to correct the psuedo history he invents.
The worst being the conspiracy Roosevelt orchestrated Pearl Harbour.
Now if all you vsn do is bitch and moan, it justg proves you are also a dumb dumb, who as seen is unable to counter my previous points
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Original Quill wrote:Paul Ettinger wrote:
Exactly, even the English were once conquered, way back in 1066 and the Normans, helped shape the world at that time through their expansion throughout Europe.
I do not see anyone bemoaning the French over this, when they played a huge part in the crusades also.
That's because the Normans were not French. They were--as the name suggests--Norse Men. Vikings, gone walk-about.
Northern France was just one of the places they stopped to have a look-see. They also were big on Sicily. The Franks were a different group altogether.
The Normans were French, thy spoke French, had adpated frankish custums, where they may have descended from the Norse, but had intermarried with local French women. You have noi idea about what makes up a group of people do you? lol
So again your ignorance on history is hilarious
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stardesk wrote:What the knockers of Britain seem to forget, or deliberately overlook, is that due to adventurers and explorers many years ago, leading to colonization etc, democracy, education, science, medication, transport, dams and power, etc & etc, was brought to the otherwise backward indigenous people. Had the West not improved those countries where would the people be today? Still having tribal conflicts, cannabalism, witchcraft and sacrifices, ignorance of how and why the world/nature works the way it does, still worshipping their mythological gods and goddesses and dancing round totem poles. Dying from obnoxious diseases, many of which the West has now just about eradicated. Scratching in the dirt trying to grow crops instead of tractors etc.
I'll stop there but I'm sure there are other aspects of Westernization that have benefitted foreign countries. Perhaps some of you can name them. Yes ok we took advantage of the gold, diamonds copper etc, but then so did France, Spain, Italy, Holland. BTW, shall we knock the Spanish for the way the colonized parts of South America, for killing over a million Aztecs? The French in Central Africa weren't exactly fairy godmothers.
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that is the most ignorant rubbish i have seen you post yet star
Very Few were cannibals
We still have all that same shit
the West bought MORE Diseases than ever before
they Did not establish Democracy AT ALL and removed Many tribal systems regardless of the desires of locals.
It is not until European leadership is kicked out that anyone established anything decent in any of the new world nations.
AND YES we Knock and demonise the Spanish and French too, You Are ALL Europeans.
tractors ploughing fields, that used to Massive forests filled with Thousands of NOW extinct Species.
YOU DID NOT MAKE ANYTHING BETTER
STOP PRETNEDING THAT YOU DID
NO ONE IS THANKING YOU
For the Diseases You bought the Murder the theft the destruction.
And ALLTHE CRIMES that you refuse to make amends for now!!!
And HUGE Assumption that People wouldn't have got there themselves, Asia was in front, it was only the huge injection of funds that Came for Massacring South America that allowed Europe the lead in military tech at that point, and that lead was tenuous as shown by how quickly the Japanese caught up.
And Europe OWES it ALL to Genghis Khan who established the trade roots Europeans took advantage of and raised Islam causing its scholars to flee to the barbarians filled European lands. If it wasn't for him that Europeans would have Remained the slave race that they had been since the fall of the Byzantine empire.
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stardesk wrote:What the knockers of Britain seem to forget, or deliberately overlook, is that due to adventurers and explorers many years ago, leading to colonization etc, democracy, education, science, medication, transport, dams and power, etc & etc, was brought to the otherwise backward indigenous people. Had the West not improved those countries where would the people be today? Still having tribal conflicts, cannabalism, witchcraft and sacrifices, ignorance of how and why the world/nature works the way it does, still worshipping their mythological gods and goddesses and dancing round totem poles. Dying from obnoxious diseases, many of which the West has now just about eradicated. Scratching in the dirt trying to grow crops instead of tractors etc.
I'll stop there but I'm sure there are other aspects of Westernization that have benefitted foreign countries. Perhaps some of you can name them. Yes ok we took advantage of the gold, diamonds copper etc, but then so did France, Spain, Italy, Holland. BTW, shall we knock the Spanish for the way the colonized parts of South America, for killing over a million Aztecs? The French in Central Africa weren't exactly fairy godmothers.
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Stardesk said, above :
"... OTHERWISE backward indigenous people.."
YOU really are proving yourself to be one stupidly ignorant and clueless fuckwit since your latest return, stardesk...
I USED to think that you were a much more intelligent and decent person than what you have been displaying this week, with all of the crappola you're posting lately..
HOW ABOUT getting yourself a proper education, instead of simply telling us, week in and week out, how much superior your intellect and spirituality is than anybody elses ?
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OH - SHOCK - HORROR, I mistyped; speaking of which --- I'm finding it really curious and yet telling that the spell checker never admonishes you or anyone else for all of their blatant failures --- but you especially, since you seem really inept at the English word!Paul Ettinger wrote:4EVER2 wrote:
What you group of 'WHINERS' seem to have collectively chosen to over look was that your highly {self anointed history professor, Didgy-doooer was the one that started his usual misaligned shit-fest and was called up on his off target rants and utter BS.
His post to Ben; something about 'dumb - dumb - dumber & head up the arse'...yes, indeed; But you good - ole groupies of 'standby the head fool' didn't bother to read his bilge and now you've really stepped into the
All hail England...long may she waver - waffle - wobble but never fall over! LMAO
Well that shows you are now lying as my post was to Quill and not Ben, showing you are inventing things
As seen Quill is quite the fraud on history and so many times I have had to correct the pseudo history he invents.
The worst being the conspiracy Roosevelt orchestrated Pearl Harbour.
Now if all you vsn do is bitch and moan, it justg proves you are also a dumb dumb, who as seen is unable to counter my previous points
But here was yet another rant of yours dear Didgey-dooer and nothing about all of those points that I recounted {just for you and your smudging/smoke & mirror} about your limited memory of English history---that #1 single thing you harp so boastfully about? Your diatribe about America's failings was quite the comic book version so --- I'm always rather curious as to your 'learn at home' qualifications for factual data?Didgy-Dooer stated: You had no point as seen, as run as fast as you can with your head stuck firmly up your arse, which is quite a picture to watch it seems.
Never mind little boy, I am sure one day you will rise to be knowledgeable to engage in a decent debate with me
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WhoseYourWolfie wrote:stardesk wrote:What the knockers of Britain seem to forget, or deliberately overlook, is that due to adventurers and explorers many years ago, leading to colonization etc, democracy, education, science, medication, transport, dams and power, etc & etc, was brought to the otherwise backward indigenous people. Had the West not improved those countries where would the people be today? Still having tribal conflicts, cannabalism, witchcraft and sacrifices, ignorance of how and why the world/nature works the way it does, still worshipping their mythological gods and goddesses and dancing round totem poles. Dying from obnoxious diseases, many of which the West has now just about eradicated. Scratching in the dirt trying to grow crops instead of tractors etc.
I'll stop there but I'm sure there are other aspects of Westernization that have benefitted foreign countries. Perhaps some of you can name them. Yes ok we took advantage of the gold, diamonds copper etc, but then so did France, Spain, Italy, Holland. BTW, shall we knock the Spanish for the way the colonized parts of South America, for killing over a million Aztecs? The French in Central Africa weren't exactly fairy godmothers.
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Stardesk said, above :
"... OTHERWISE backward indigenous people.."
YOU really are proving yourself to be one stupidly ignorant and clueless fuckwit since your latest return, stardesk...
I USED to think that you were a much more intelligent and decent person than what you have been displaying this week, with all of the crappola you're posting lately..
HOW ABOUT getting yourself a proper education, instead of simply telling us, week in and week out, how much superior your intellect and spirituality is than anybody elses ?
How about bringing something relevant to debate for a change?
Instead of just throwing insults at anyone who dares to say anything you don't like...?
Why are you so unable to actually debate the points raised...?
All you have is insults and it is getting beyond boring!
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I laughed at Stardesk's comment. I already knew that Stardesk was not the "tolerant" person everyone thinks he is.
Having said that, he does have a point. Good things were brought to those countries as well as bad things.
Having said that, he does have a point. Good things were brought to those countries as well as bad things.
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stardesk wrote:What the knockers of Britain seem to forget, or deliberately overlook, is that due to adventurers and explorers many years ago, leading to colonization etc, democracy, education, science, medication, transport, dams and power, etc & etc, was brought to the otherwise backward indigenous people. Had the West not improved those countries where would the people be today? Still having tribal conflicts, cannabalism, witchcraft and sacrifices, ignorance of how and why the world/nature works the way it does, still worshipping their mythological gods and goddesses and dancing round totem poles. Dying from obnoxious diseases, many of which the West has now just about eradicated. Scratching in the dirt trying to grow crops instead of tractors etc.
I'll stop there but I'm sure there are other aspects of Westernization that have benefitted foreign countries. Perhaps some of you can name them. Yes ok we took advantage of the gold, diamonds copper etc, but then so did France, Spain, Italy, Holland. BTW, shall we knock the Spanish for the way the colonized parts of South America, for killing over a million Aztecs? The French in Central Africa weren't exactly fairy godmothers.
Back in a minute.
Since the 'Original Ranter' {didgy-dooer} wasn't going off the turnip truck about any other country but his absurd comic-book hysterical misinformed perspective of my American History; why would my rejoinder need to include the obvious global history of: France or Spain etc., etc., etc.,
It would appear that you 'knee-jerked' you way into this thread with a wonderful gusto and little applied thought or reading for how we arrived at the point that I responded...but if the 'GROUP' effort is always to become emotional instead of just responding to the ebb & flow of the conversation --- then by all means...carry on with your over the top redundant blather.
Didgy-dooer might be able to retain some factual data from your
or not
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4EVER2 wrote:stardesk wrote:What the knockers of Britain seem to forget, or deliberately overlook, is that due to adventurers and explorers many years ago, leading to colonization etc, democracy, education, science, medication, transport, dams and power, etc & etc, was brought to the otherwise backward indigenous people. Had the West not improved those countries where would the people be today? Still having tribal conflicts, cannabalism, witchcraft and sacrifices, ignorance of how and why the world/nature works the way it does, still worshipping their mythological gods and goddesses and dancing round totem poles. Dying from obnoxious diseases, many of which the West has now just about eradicated. Scratching in the dirt trying to grow crops instead of tractors etc.
I'll stop there but I'm sure there are other aspects of Westernization that have benefitted foreign countries. Perhaps some of you can name them. Yes ok we took advantage of the gold, diamonds copper etc, but then so did France, Spain, Italy, Holland. BTW, shall we knock the Spanish for the way the colonized parts of South America, for killing over a million Aztecs? The French in Central Africa weren't exactly fairy godmothers.
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Since the 'Original Ranter' {didgy-dooer} wasn't going off the turnip truck about any other country but his absurd comic-book hysterical misinformed perspective of my American History; why would my rejoinder need to include the obvious global history of: France or Spain etc., etc., etc.,
It would appear that you 'knee-jerked' you way into this thread with a wonderful gusto and little applied thought or reading for how we arrived at the point that I responded...but if the 'GROUP' effort is always to become emotional instead of just responding to the ebb & flow of the conversation --- then by all means...carry on with your over the top redundant blather.
Didgy-dooer might be able to retain some factual data from your
or not
I shall translate the following above for those not used to such backwards speaking
"gooo, goo, ga ga I am 4everbaby, goo ga ga"
Yes only thing this idiot seems apt at, is telling everyone what she thinks of them
Well, many of the posters will agree with me in saying you are an immature twat..
lol
Now unless you have anything intelligent to say, I suggest you stick that head of yours up that humongous fat arse of yours. As you know its best at home when surrounded by shit
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4EVER2 wrote:OH - SHOCK - HORROR, I mistyped; speaking of which --- I'm finding it really curious and yet telling that the spell checker never admonishes you or anyone else for all of their blatant failures --- but you especially, since you seem really inept at the English word!Paul Ettinger wrote:
Well that shows you are now lying as my post was to Quill and not Ben, showing you are inventing things
As seen Quill is quite the fraud on history and so many times I have had to correct the pseudo history he invents.
The worst being the conspiracy Roosevelt orchestrated Pearl Harbour.
Now if all you vsn do is bitch and moan, it justg proves you are also a dumb dumb, who as seen is unable to counter my previous pointsBut here was yet another rant of yours dear Didgey-dooer and nothing about all of those points that I recounted {just for you and your smudging/smoke & mirror} about your limited memory of English history---that #1 single thing you harp so boastfully about? Your diatribe about America's failings was quite the comic book version so --- I'm always rather curious as to your 'learn at home' qualifications for factual data?Didgy-Dooer stated: You had no point as seen, as run as fast as you can with your head stuck firmly up your arse, which is quite a picture to watch it seems.
Never mind little boy, I am sure one day you will rise to be knowledgeable to engage in a decent debate with me
lol so now you are concern over grammar Nazi's
Bless you poor little twat ha ha ha
So again nothing to counter the facts, just yet more of your verbal diarrhea
I am curious to know when you are actually going to counter any points, other than trying to make out you have an ounce of intelligence
I have seen far right racist numpties with more intelligence than you lol
Now anything oin the debate or do you wish to continue your futile infantile exhchange, where you will continue to look a complete dick?
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Paul Ettinger wrote:4EVER2 wrote:
Since the 'Original Ranter' {didgy-dooer} wasn't going off the turnip truck about any other country but his absurd comic-book hysterical misinformed perspective of my American History; why would my rejoinder need to include the obvious global history of: France or Spain etc., etc., etc.,
It would appear that you 'knee-jerked' you way into this thread with a wonderful gusto and little applied thought or reading for how we arrived at the point that I responded...but if the 'GROUP' effort is always to become emotional instead of just responding to the ebb & flow of the conversation --- then by all means...carry on with your over the top redundant blather.
Didgy-dooer might be able to retain some factual data from your
or not
I shall translate the following above for those not used to such backwards speaking
"gooo, goo, ga ga I am 4everbaby, goo ga ga"
Yes only thing this idiot seems apt at, is telling everyone what she thinks of them
Well, many of the posters will agree with me in saying you are an immature twat..
lol
Now unless you have anything intelligent to say, I suggest you stick that head of yours up that humongous fat arse of yours. As you know its best at home when surrounded by shit
It's not often dodge... but...
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WhoseYourWolfie wrote:stardesk wrote:What the knockers of Britain seem to forget, or deliberately overlook, is that due to adventurers and explorers many years ago, leading to colonization etc, democracy, education, science, medication, transport, dams and power, etc & etc, was brought to the otherwise backward indigenous people. Had the West not improved those countries where would the people be today? Still having tribal conflicts, cannabalism, witchcraft and sacrifices, ignorance of how and why the world/nature works the way it does, still worshipping their mythological gods and goddesses and dancing round totem poles. Dying from obnoxious diseases, many of which the West has now just about eradicated. Scratching in the dirt trying to grow crops instead of tractors etc.
I'll stop there but I'm sure there are other aspects of Westernization that have benefitted foreign countries. Perhaps some of you can name them. Yes ok we took advantage of the gold, diamonds copper etc, but then so did France, Spain, Italy, Holland. BTW, shall we knock the Spanish for the way the colonized parts of South America, for killing over a million Aztecs? The French in Central Africa weren't exactly fairy godmothers.
Back in a minute.
Stardesk said, above :
"... OTHERWISE backward indigenous people.."
YOU really are proving yourself to be one stupidly ignorant and clueless fuckwit since your latest return, stardesk...
I USED to think that you were a much more intelligent and decent person than what you have been displaying this week, with all of the crappola you're posting lately..
HOW ABOUT getting yourself a proper education, instead of simply telling us, week in and week out, how much superior your intellect and spirituality is than anybody elses ?
How else do you want to describe people, that lack any modern eduication?
Forward thinking?
Stardesk is right about many holding poor superstitions, like witch craft etc.
That is specking factually, as again how else do you want to then describe them?
Primitive?
You may want to speak politically correct, but they are what they are. Lacking in the levels of understanding that many educated people have.
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How else do you want to describe people, that lack any modern eduication?
Forward thinking?
Stardesk is right about many holding poor superstitions, like witch craft etc.
That is specking factually, as again how else do you want to then describe them?
Primitive?
You may want to speak politically correct, but they are what they are. Lacking in the levels of understanding that many educated people have.
And another of his 'off topic' personal attacks when he lacks the ability to stay on TOPIC >>>
I shall translate the following above for those not used to such backwards speaking
"gooo, goo, ga ga I am 4everbaby, goo ga ga"
Yes only thing this idiot seems apt at, is telling everyone what she thinks of them
Well, many of the posters will agree with me in saying you are an immature twat..
lol
Now unless you have anything intelligent to say, I suggest you stick that head of yours up that humongous fat arse of yours. As you know its best at home when surrounded by shit
Our 'VILLAGE IDIOT' has spoken;
or how ever he's deems it necessary to spell it today...and his posse approves his attempts~~~
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Posse!
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Paul Ettinger wrote:Original Quill wrote:
That's because the Normans were not French. They were--as the name suggests--Norse Men. Vikings, gone walk-about.
Northern France was just one of the places they stopped to have a look-see. They also were big on Sicily. The Franks were a different group altogether.
The Normans were French, thy spoke French, had adpated frankish custums, where they may have descended from the Norse, but had intermarried with local French women. You have noi idea about what makes up a group of people do you? lol
So again your ignorance on history is hilarious
Such ignorance, combined with such de minimis impulse control could be dangerous. Have you registered with the Home Office?
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stardesk wrote:What the knockers of Britain seem to forget, or deliberately overlook...
What the hell do the knockers of Britain have to do with it?
I know the sun never sets and all that...but that's ridiculous.
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Original Quill wrote:Paul Ettinger wrote:
The Normans were French, thy spoke French, had adpated frankish custums, where they may have descended from the Norse, but had intermarried with local French women. You have noi idea about what makes up a group of people do you? lol
So again your ignorance on history is hilarious
Such ignorance, combined with such de minimis impulse control could be dangerous. Have you registered with the Home Office?
Have you been able to counter a single fact I have made?
no
You and the other idiot 4everbaby, are looking quite the muppets of late.
I suggest you both stick to debate, or I shall continue to pull both your strings, as I have made you my little puppets
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4EVER2 wrote:How else do you want to describe people, that lack any modern eduication?
Forward thinking?
Stardesk is right about many holding poor superstitions, like witch craft etc.
That is specking factually, as again how else do you want to then describe them?
Primitive?
You may want to speak politically correct, but they are what they are. Lacking in the levels of understanding that many educated people have.
And another of his 'off topic' personal attacks when he lacks the ability to stay on TOPIC >>>I shall translate the following above for those not used to such backwards speaking
"gooo, goo, ga ga I am 4everbaby, goo ga ga"
Yes only thing this idiot seems apt at, is telling everyone what she thinks of them
Well, many of the posters will agree with me in saying you are an immature twat..
lol
Now unless you have anything intelligent to say, I suggest you stick that head of yours up that humongous fat arse of yours. As you know its best at home when surrounded by shit
Our 'VILLAGE IDIOT' has spoken;
or how ever he's deems it necessary to spell it today...and his posse approves his attempts~~~
lol still more verbal shit from the woman with her head stiuck up her fat humongous arse.
Seriously, yuu look shit, you smell shit, its becoming apparant you simply are shit
Again nothing to counter my points
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Just as you often do when backed into the 'IDIOT CORNER' of your own making --- you go off on a mental dump and derail the entire adult discussion and trash the entire thread.4EVER2 wrote:ROTFLMAO~~~I so enjoy these selective memory mental purges that Didgy supplies us with, given his profound sense of 'SELF' and short term memory problems; it's always a interesting/amusing cluster of bizarre and twisted information to be hold.Paul Ettinger wrote:
I am the one trying to reason where the US should intervene, where its inaction has done nothing to stem Islamic terrorism, but only see it increase and see th deaths of half a million in Syria. That again is negligence by Obama of the worst order.
So you can continue with your boose and deflections all you like, the US is emphatically a joke as a nation with its history, from Vietnam to Iraq.
Especially given the longevity of the English and their need to 'get off the island' and go exploring - concur some lowly quaint place - inhabit some foreign land - make slaves of the locals - knock up a few of the native women - bring religion to the heathens and punish them for their pagan beliefs - pilfer all of their precious gems/raw materials and export those goods back to England and establish a trade system that benefits England 100% and the natives barely enough to sustain a living - and let us not forget that all important drug trade that still lives in infamy to this very day
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You - Didgy-dooer have been at the acts of war/pillage/rampage/stealing precious materials/valued merchandise/slave trade/indentured servants/forced child labor/forced religion/barbaric prison/torture/screwing over the locals and sticking it to the masses for far greater centuries then the rest of us; give us a chance to learn from your ignorance and massive repetitive mistakes
We're trying to learn as we go and - Yes, we'll repeat a few blunders just as jolly ole' England has done - hopefully not on the same grandiose scale but in much smaller doses.
But for the upper echelon and those privatized islands that they are allowed to charter off too with 'Special Dispatch' --- never blink or have any needless worries about the displaced locals that aren't allowed access to their own heritages sights! That would mean you felt, something akin to a human sensation---like empathy!The British Indian Ocean Territory is a UK Overseas Territory. It is administered from London and there is no British diplomatic or consular representation there.
The British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT) is not a tourist destination. Access is restricted and a permit is required in advance of travel. There are no commercial flights and mooring permits are only issued to yachts in exceptional circumstances. Access to Diego Garcia is only allowed for those on pre-authorised official duty
Indeed...you changed your nickname/avatar yet again and the methods of your bullying/immature rantings remain the same!
You have zero point - so further attempts to get you to act like an adult - speak like an adult - discuss your failed education about history like an adult is just futile --- but don't think you won't be called up for your continued LIES when I read them!
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Paul Ettinger wrote:ROTFLMAO~~~I so enjoy these selective memory mental purges that Didgy supplies us with, given his profound sense of 'SELF' and short term memory problems; it's always a interesting/amusing cluster of bizarre and twisted information to be hold.4EVER2 wrote:
So you can continue with your boose and deflections all you like, the US is emphatically a joke as a nation with its history, from Vietnam to Iraq.Paul Ettinger wrote:Gibberish and no point made, just the usual idocy
Especially given the longevity of the English and their need to 'get off the island' and go exploring - concur some lowly quaint place - inhabit some foreign land - make slaves of the locals - knock up a few of the native women - bring religion to the heathens and punish them for their pagan beliefs - pilfer all of their precious gems/raw materials and export those goods back to England and establish a trade system that benefits England 100% and the natives barely enough to sustain a living - and let us not forget that all important drug trade that still lives in infamy to this very dayPaul Ettinger wrote:Yet more gibberish, as many fled persecution or were deported, showing you know next to nothing on history.
In fact many left to attempt to get out of poverty, or religious persecution. Not just England of course, the Irish left in masses during the Potato famine.
So get to the back of the class you idiot, as you have no idea what you are talking about in regards to why many people left
You - Didgy-dooer have been at the acts of war/pillage/rampage/stealing precious materials/valued merchandise/slave trade/indentured servants/forced child labor/forced religion/barbaric prison/torture/screwing over the locals and sticking it to the masses for far greater centuries then the rest of us; give us a chance to learn from your ignorance and massive repetitive mistakesPaul Ettinger wrote:Gibberish and no point made, just the usual idocy
We're trying to learn as we go and - Yes, we'll repeat a few blunders just as jolly ole' England has done - hopefully not on the same grandiose scale but in much smaller doses.Paul Ettinger wrote:Yet more gibberish, the problem is the US continues to make many, and never learn by them
But for the upper echelon and those privatized islands that they are allowed to charter off too with 'Special Dispatch' --- never blink or have any needless worries about the displaced locals that aren't allowed access to their own heritages sights! That would mean you felt, something akin to a human sensation---like empathy!
[/quote]Paul Ettinger wrote:Gibberish and no point made, just the usual idocy
lol I can post up my replies also you pathetic little worm 4everbaby
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Paul Ettinger wrote:Original Quill wrote:
Such ignorance, combined with such de minimis impulse control could be dangerous. Have you registered with the Home Office?
Have you been able to counter a single fact I have made?
no
You and the other idiot 4everbaby, are looking quite the muppets of late.
I suggest you both stick to debate, or I shall continue to pull both your strings, as I have made you my little puppets
So....you admit you "make" facts. You complete idiot...you embarrass all of us. You have no conception of the 'fact/value' distinction. "Facts I have made..." indeed!
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Original Quill wrote:Paul Ettinger wrote:
Have you been able to counter a single fact I have made?
no
You and the other idiot 4everbaby, are looking quite the muppets of late.
I suggest you both stick to debate, or I shall continue to pull both your strings, as I have made you my little puppets
So....you admit you "make" facts. You complete idiot...you embarrass all of us. You have no conception of the 'fact/value' distinction. "Facts I have made..." indeed!
Oh please you ignorant idiot, I have given you many historical facts and what have you come back with, just yet more ignorance
Get to the back of the class dumb dumb
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Paul Ettinger wrote:Original Quill wrote:
So....you admit you "make" facts. You complete idiot...you embarrass all of us. You have no conception of the 'fact/value' distinction. "Facts I have made..." indeed!
Oh please you ignorant idiot, I have given you many historical facts and what have you come back with, just yet more ignorance
Get to the back of the class dumb dumb
You honestly think that facts are "made up"? That explains why most of your posts are rubbish.
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Original Quill wrote:Paul Ettinger wrote:
Oh please you ignorant idiot, I have given you many historical facts and what have you come back with, just yet more ignorance
Get to the back of the class dumb dumb
You honestly think that facts are "made up"? That explains why most of your posts are rubbish.
I honestly have come to see you as an idiot
Never claimed I made them up.
If you take english out of context its no surprise, with such stupidity
Historical facts are historical facts, you though want to play some nursery game.
Sorry you need 4everbaby for that game
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Know what I've learned since being on this forum?
Each, in your own way, you're all against one group of people or another. Americans vs English, English vs Australia......
American, Australian, English, Muslim..Left wing, right wing.
You all sound the same!!!
Each, in your own way, you're all against one group of people or another. Americans vs English, English vs Australia......
American, Australian, English, Muslim..Left wing, right wing.
You all sound the same!!!
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eddie wrote:Know what I've learned since being on this forum?
Each, in your own way, you're all against one group of people or another. Americans vs English, English vs Australia......
American, Australian, English, Muslim..Left wing, right wing.
You all sound the same!!!
Actually, before coming here, many of the older posters had no such issues with these countries and do not really have any.
Its the same hates though of the Uk, that have made some of us now so bored with it, some of us now play them at their own game and as seen, they certainly do not like it.
The sad part is they never learn
So I disagree to your views Eddie, as they simply are way out of context
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Stormee wrote:Ya ain't supposed to tell the truth, eddie.
Ive always done things I shouldn't storm.
And I stand by that post.
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eddie wrote:Know what I've learned since being on this forum?
Each, in your own way, you're all against one group of people or another. Americans vs English, English vs Australia......
American, Australian, English, Muslim..Left wing, right wing.
You all sound the same!!!
I didn't used to be that way, but I have to say that I'm beginning to dislike Australians.
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How can you dislike all Australians because there are two on here that annoy you occasionally?
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eddie wrote:How can you dislike all Australians because there are two on here that annoy you occasionally?
Well that's the point isn't it? They are consistently anti-English and gobby, and they seem to think they represent Australians. The last Aussie I met in real life gobbed off at me too for no reason.
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When I was in Vietnam I fought with Australians, they were good blokes and I got on well with them.
The ones on here?
The ones on here?
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I post valid opinion backed up by logic, evidence, facts and common sense...
The hate always comes from others against me...
The hate always comes from others against me...
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Tommy Monk wrote:I post valid opinion backed up by logic, evidence, facts and common sense...
The hate always comes from others against me...
Yes, I'll agree with that, and it's totally out of proportion to anything you've said.
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Tommy Monk wrote:I post valid opinion backed up by logic, evidence, facts and common sense...
The hate always comes from others against me...
Ehh...tommy, you didn't do so well on justifying the natural basis on heterosexuality. You couldn't point to a single "natural" fact, though you attempted to construct a natural law argument.
Then there was your stumbling attempt to personify nature: you said nature had a design and a purpose (??). Frankly, you had to let others lead you into the discussion...your opponents had to structure your arguments for you. I'm not sure you would even recognize the same discussion today.
I do remember suggesting you read a lot more.
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Normans
I’m not sure which poster it was and I’m not wasting time looking back, but someone categorically said Normans were of Scandinavian origin. Only partly right, actually they were inhabitants of Normandy, and descendants of mixed Scandinavian and Frankish race. Also according to DNA tests the Normans were also of Basque origin.
So, let’s get our facts right shall we? And stop slinging the crap around at people you don’t agree with. Do a bit of research and educate yourselves.
I’m not sure which poster it was and I’m not wasting time looking back, but someone categorically said Normans were of Scandinavian origin. Only partly right, actually they were inhabitants of Normandy, and descendants of mixed Scandinavian and Frankish race. Also according to DNA tests the Normans were also of Basque origin.
So, let’s get our facts right shall we? And stop slinging the crap around at people you don’t agree with. Do a bit of research and educate yourselves.
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