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Even though most people in this country are overweight or obese, I constantly felt pressured to change when I was fat.

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I'm not just talking about the scornful looks from folks in public, or the occasional comment from my mom about my health. It was more subtle than that. There's a pervasive, generally unspoken message that comes from movies, television, advertisements, video games–everywhere, really. Have you noticed that the fat guy, for example, rarely "gets the girl" or plays the leading role in anything other than comedies? "Well why would he?" you might ask. "She's probably not attracted to him–seeing as he's obviously let himself go. And he'd look silly dressed as Spider-Man."
But that's exactly it!

As a fat person, you get the message loud and clear: what you are, what you look like, everything about you, it's not okay. The people on the screens who go for adventures, fall in love, save the world–they aren't like you. They're better. Thinner. But you can play a supporting role as someone else's comedic relief or prissy friend, if you want. That was never good enough for me. I hated being fat. I thought of myself as the thin, athletic guy that I was back in high school; but whenever I looked in the mirror, the damn thing showed me the wrong person. And when I went shopping, anything under size 40 to 42 was too tight. I wore dark colors to hide my bulging midsection, tugged on the bottom of my shirt whenever I stood up, and sucked in my stomach if an attractive woman was nearby.

I knew I needed to change.

But there's another message that was targeted at me: one which says "exercise will make you lose weight." You see thin people walking around in their gym clothes; see the advertisements that feature models running, cycling, lifting weights, doing whatever; and you flip through the channels only to hear Jillian Michaels or some other snake-oil salesman hawking diet pills or shouting like a drill sergeant to work harder and sweat off that weight. I later learned that weight loss begins and ends in the kitchen, but I didn't know this at the time.

So I tried running.

There's a one-mile stretch of road near my mother's house with a good hill at the end. It seemed like a reasonable place to start: sparse traffic, no other runners, no threats of people staring or watching. I laced up a pair of running shoes I purchased a few years earlier, put on some baggy gym shorts and an oversized, cotton t-shirt, and began the first day of my new life.

Or at least that's what I thought it was going to be.

After about twenty seconds, I had to stop and catch my breath. My sides ached as if my lungs had been torn open, sweat poured down my face, and my legs felt weak and rubbery. My entire body felt slow. Heavy.
I was dumbfounded. I used to run back in high school to stay in shape for wrestling and motocross racing, and during my first year with Teach For America, I ran around the track at the gym in-between racquetball games. I'd gained a lot of weight, had a few too many drinks, and spent a lot of time in front of a screen, but still…it wasn't supposed it be like that.

I toughed it out and made it back home. And to my credit, I did continue to run on and off for a few more weeks. But one missed day turned into two, and before I knew it, three or four weeks had gone by without doing anything.
And once you've waited that long, what's one more day, right?

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by Victorismyhero Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:06 pm

didge wrote:You do not have to do a load of excercize to lose weight.
Where on earth do you get that idea from.
Every work morning I get the train from Ashdord to Charing and then walk to Lenham.
Its 4.8 miles and in a couple of weeks have shed a stone in weight and am back to my fitness levels

I seriously doubt losing 7lbs a week is soley down to walking 5 miles Didge......

you'd have to be a right chubber to start with affraid

around 1000 Lbs.........

now I know you are kinda a big guy but............

HOWEVER

what else are you doing different?

having changed your routine...are you having one (or more) less cups of sweet coffee...either on the train/at a station/ at work??

are you eating less at break time/lunch time...or perhaps subconciously eating BETTER

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:07 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
didge wrote:You do not have to do a load of excercize to lose weight.
Where on earth do you get that idea from.
Every work morning I get the train from Ashdord to Charing and then walk to Lenham.
Its 4.8 miles and in a couple of weeks have shed a stone in weight and am back to my fitness levels

I seriously doubt losing 7lbs a week is soley down to walking 5 miles Didge......

you'd have to be a right chubber to start with around 1000 Lbs.........

now I know you are kinda a big guy but............

HOWEVER

what else are you doing different?

having changed your routine...are you having one (or more) less cups of sweet coffee...either on the train/at a station/ at work??

are you eating less at break time/lunch time...or perhaps subconciously eating BETTER

Its not the only excercize I am doing Victor and it also has to do with how I am eating

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:10 pm

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to lose 7lb of fat a week, you'd have to eat about 3,500 calories less per day than you actually need per day.

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:12 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:

to lose 7lb of fat a week, you'd have to eat about 3,500 calories less per day than you actually need per day.

based on what evidence from the mickey mouse school of rags?

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by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:14 pm

didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

to lose 7lb of fat a week, you'd have to eat about 3,500 calories less per day than you actually need per day.

based on what evidence from the mickey mouse school of rags?

It's hilarious that you have now admitted that you've changed your diet. Laughing

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by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:16 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:

based on what evidence from the mickey mouse school of rags?

It's hilarious that you have now admitted that you've changed your diet. Are you enormous Didge? You'd have to be to lose a pound of fat per day.

Why is it hilarious?

I am 12 stone, how is that enormous Rags?

Razz

When you pass 40 you will understand you have to excercize more to stop putting on weight as your metabolism slows down

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:17 pm

didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

It's hilarious that you have now admitted that you've changed your diet. Are you enormous Didge? You'd have to be to lose a pound of fat per day.

Why is it hilarious?

I am 12 stone, how is that enormous Rags?

When you pass 40 you will understand you have to excercize more to stop putting on weight as your metabolism slows down

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by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:18 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:

Why is it hilarious?

I am 12 stone, how is that enormous Rags?

When you pass 40 you will understand you have to excercize more to stop putting on weight as your metabolism slows down

That old chestnut.

Oh dear, I think she is broken, can someone help her lose her virginity to help stop her being a twat?>

Laughing

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:20 pm

didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

That old chestnut.

Oh dear, I think she is broken, can someone help her lose her virginity to help stop her being a twat?>

Oh dear - sexist and pervy remarks Didge? You're losing it again. Shocked

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:21 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:

Oh dear, I think she is broken, can someone help her lose her virginity to help stop her being a twat?>

Oh dear - sexist and pervy remarks Didge? You're losing it again.

How is it sexist hoping you can dust those cobwebs away and get laid?

I am having your best interest at heart

Laughing

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:22 pm

didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Oh dear - sexist and pervy remarks Didge? You're losing it again.

How is it sexist hoping you can dust those cobwebs away and get laid?

I am having your best interest at heart

Stop perving Didge. Our Society Fundamentally Misunderstands The Role Of Exercise. We've Learned To Hate What We Love Read more at - Page 2 3489511464

by Victorismyhero Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:22 pm

she is right didge

well ...half right....

you would have to use up/not take in 3500 calories a day

however since 3500 calories a day is around the recomended level for a large adult male to support normal activity

you would need to eat considerably less (say half as much as you normally do) AND undertake some considerable excercise

thing is you cant NOT eat your required minimum for any length of time...becasue you would be impacted by shortages of essential proteins and vitamins especially.....

and 7lbs a week is appraoching a dangerous rate of weight loss AND...its probably futile too....if you shed weight TOO fast your body panics and does EVERYTHING it can to make you regain that weight....

much better to look for 1 or 2 lbs a week.....

I MAY this summer (with medical supervision ) try the viscious "crash diet" method of kick starting my insulin system again...(basically ...dont eat anything of calorific value for a week or two....or.........aggggh...3)

the aim of that is indeed to make my body "panic" and switch on the cells needed...wake em up again from their sugar induced stupor

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note...I did say may

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:23 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:

How is it sexist hoping you can dust those cobwebs away and get laid?

I am having your best interest at heart

Stop perving Didge.

Perving? Have you look in the mirror lately or have all of them turned to stone?

Laughing

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:23 pm

Lord Foul wrote:she is right didge

well ...half right....

you would have to use up/not take in 3500 calories a day

however since 3500 calories a day is around the recomended level for a large adult male to support normal activity

you would need to eat considerably less (say half as much as you normally do) AND undertake some considerable excercise

thing is you cant NOT eat your required minimum for any length of time...becasue you would be impacted by shortages of essential proteins and vitamins especially.....

and 7lbs a week is appraoching a dangerous rate of weight loss AND...its probably futile too....if you shed weight TOO fast your body panics and does EVERYTHING it can to make you regain that weight....

much better to look for 1 or 2 lbs a week.....

I MAY this summer (with medical supervision ) try the viscious "crash diet" method of kick starting my insulin system again...(basically ...dont eat anything of calorific value for a week or two....or.........aggggh...3)

the aim of that is indeed to make my body "panic" and switch on the cells needed...wake em up again from their sugar induced stupor

note...I did say may

Again based on what evidence?

Sorry but you claiming to me what my body can do shows you have no concept of the human body

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:26 pm

Lord Foul wrote:she is right didge

well ...half right....

you would have to use up/not take in 3500 calories a day

however since 3500 calories a day is around the recomended level for a large adult male to support normal activity

you would need to eat considerably less (say half as much as you normally do) AND undertake some considerable excercise

thing is you cant NOT eat your required minimum for any length of time...becasue you would be impacted by shortages of essential proteins and vitamins especially.....

and 7lbs a week is appraoching a dangerous rate of weight loss AND...its probably futile too....if you shed weight TOO fast your body panics and does EVERYTHING it can to make you regain that weight....

much better to look for 1 or 2 lbs a week.....

I MAY this summer (with medical supervision ) try the viscious "crash diet" method of kick starting my insulin system again...(basically ...dont eat anything of calorific value for a week or two....or.........aggggh...3)

the aim of that is indeed to make my body "panic" and switch on the cells needed...wake em up again from their sugar induced stupor

note...I did say may

I would say less than 3,500 calories for a man of normal weight and height actually.

by eddie Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:27 pm

didge wrote:
eddie wrote:A stone in two weeks is a lot to lose - it's better to lose weight slowly

Jogging is crap as it pounds your joints and joggers have little muscle too, so they just Loo, skinny.

Weight-bearing exercise is the best, but all exercise should be coupled with eating healthily.

Losing weight is about exercise and diet. And maintaining yourself forever by just being sensible and having things you like to eat.

Alcohol is very calorific

Jogging is not crap, where on earth do you get that from and being that many women love to walk on their toes in high heels has to be the daffiest invention going.
The best exercise is cardio excercize for the heart and running happens to be one of the best

No, it isn't.
Weight bearing cardio is better for you. Look it up

Jogging pounds the joints and what have high heels got to do with anything?

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:27 pm

didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Stop perving Didge.

Perving? Have you look in the mirror lately or have all of them turned to stone?

You're just perving again. Go and perve somewhere else. Our Society Fundamentally Misunderstands The Role Of Exercise. We've Learned To Hate What We Love Read more at - Page 2 4214183177

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by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:28 pm

eddie wrote:
didge wrote:

Jogging is not crap, where on earth do you get that from and being that many women love to walk on their toes in high heels has to be the daffiest invention going.
The best exercise is cardio excercize for the heart and running happens to be one of the best

No, it isn't.
Weight bearing cardio is better for you. Look it up

Jogging pounds the joints and what have high heels got to do with anything?

I agree about jogging, but I also think people should be careful about weights.

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:29 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:

Perving? Have you look in the mirror lately or have all of them turned to stone?

You're just perving again. Go and perve somewhere else.

Not going anywhere Miss frigid

Laughing

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:29 pm

eddie wrote:
didge wrote:

Jogging is not crap, where on earth do you get that from and being that many women love to walk on their toes in high heels has to be the daffiest invention going.
The best exercise is cardio excercize for the heart and running happens to be one of the best

No, it isn't.
Weight bearing cardio is better for you. Look it up

Jogging pounds the joints and what have high heels got to do with anything?

Nonsense, show me a consortium of doctors that say that?

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:29 pm

didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

You're just perving again. Go and perve somewhere else.

Not going anywhere Miss frigid

Go and say hello to your hand again or something. lol!

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:30 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:

Not going anywhere Miss frigid

Go and say hello your hand again or something.

Sorry can we have that in English please

Razz

by eddie Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:31 pm

Didge I lived with a fitness instructor - he was obsessed with diet and weights and exercise

Jogging burns fat as well as muscle - it isn't as good for you as weight-bearing exercise

Look it up - don't be lazy! lol!

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:32 pm

eddie wrote:Didge I lived with a fitness instructor - he was obsessed with diet and weights and exercise

Jogging burns fat as well as muscle - it isn't as good for you as weight-bearing exercise

Look it up - don't be lazy!

OMG here we go yet more hearsay

I could not care if you slept with the whole of New York Eddie, that does not make you an expert

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:32 pm

What's wrong with just being generally active? Gardening, dancing, walking reasonable distances, doing some housework, etc?

by eddie Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:34 pm

What's sleeping with Americans got to do with anything?
Oh I forgot, you have a downer on Americans today Rolling Eyes

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:36 pm

eddie wrote:What's sleeping with Americans got to do with anything?
Oh I forgot, you have a downer on Americans today

You really think I believe a single word that comes out of wackadoodle mouth Eddie?

Seriously watch out the lizardmen are controlling your mind

Razz

by Victorismyhero Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:37 pm

didge...you cant argue with medical facts...

you are a human...i think....and therfore YOUR metabolism is not going to be so aberant as to do things like that

a net loss of 500 calories per day equates to 1LB of fat a week...(on average)

that is a FACT...simple and immutable (within the acceptable limits of error) (these errors whilst considerable ONLY have an effect over long periods) viz 1 lb of fat on average contains 3500 calories...

it may be as high as 3750 or as low as 2840 (depending on the individual and their state of hydration) over a 7 day week that would make a difference of +36 calories or -100 calories per day

so however you look at it you STILL, no matter how you insist need to lose between 2840 and 3750 calories PER DAY to loose 1lb of fat a day...

unless of course you really are an alien

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:38 pm

Lord Foul wrote:didge...you cant argue with medical facts...

you are a human...i think....and therfore YOUR metabolism is not going to be so aberant as to do things like that

a net loss of 500 calories per day equates to 1LB of fat a week...(on average)

that is a FACT...simple and immutable (within the acceptable limits of error) (these errors whilst considerable ONLY have an effect over long periods) viz 1 lb of fat on average contains 3500 calories...

it may be as high as 3750 or as low as 2840 (depending on the individual and their state of hydration) over a 7 day week that would make a difference of +36 calories or -100 calories per day

so however you look at it you STILL, no matter how you insist need to lose between 2840 and 3750 calories PER DAY to loose 1lb of fat a day...

unless of course you really are an

I agree with all of that, which is why what he claimed was nonsense.

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:38 pm

Lord Foul wrote:didge...you cant argue with medical facts...

you are a human...i think....and therfore YOUR metabolism is not going to be so aberant as to do things like that

a net loss of 500 calories per day equates to 1LB of fat a week...(on average)

that is a FACT...simple and immutable (within the acceptable limits of error) (these errors whilst considerable ONLY have an effect over long periods) viz 1 lb of fat on average contains 3500 calories...

it may be as high as 3750 or as low as 2840 (depending on the individual and their state of hydration) over a 7 day week that would make a difference of +36 calories or -100 calories per day

so however you look at it you STILL, no matter how you insist need to lose between 2840 and 3750 calories PER DAY to loose 1lb of fat a day...

unless of course you really are an

You have not presented any medical facts mate

Still waiting for you to do so

Again how on earth can you tell me what my body can do?

Are you now claiming to be a doctor?

Razz

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:39 pm

So then, if you ate 500 calories a day more than you need, you would put on half a stone in a week? I don't think so. Our Society Fundamentally Misunderstands The Role Of Exercise. We've Learned To Hate What We Love Read more at - Page 2 3489511464

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:41 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:So then, if you ate 500 calories a day more than you need, you would put on half a stone in a week? I don't think so.

I love this, again where is your evidence

Still waiting

Razz

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:41 pm

didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:So then, if you ate 500 calories a day more than you need, you would put on half a stone in a week? I don't think so.

I love this, again where is your evidence

Still waiting

Why don't you try it and tell us how porky you get? Laughing

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:42 pm

See, a lot of people claim this kind of thing. They say the fat piled on overnight or in a few weeks. That's bollox - they just don't want to admit that they overate for ages. Laughing

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:43 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:

I love this, again where is your evidence

Still waiting

Why don't you try it and tell us how porky you get?

So no evidence just yet more bullshit

Thanks that was easy to prove

Are you saying its impossible to lose a stone in a couple of weeks?

Take your time

Laughing

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:43 pm

didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Why don't you try it and tell us how porky you get?

So no evidence just yet more bullshit

Thanks that was easy to prove

Are you saying its impossible to lose a stone in a couple of weeks?

Take your time

A stone of fat? Pretty much, yes. You're lying.

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:44 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:

So no evidence just yet more bullshit

Thanks that was easy to prove

Are you saying its impossible to lose a stone in a couple of weeks?

Take your time

A stone of fat? Pretty much, yes. You're lying.

You are saying its physically impossible

So if I showed others who have you would then look a right tit then, yes?

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:46 pm

didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

A stone of fat? Pretty much, yes. You're lying.

You are saying its physically impossible

So if I showed others who have you would then look a right tit then, yes?

Based on what you said, I do not believe you lost a stone of fat in two weeks.

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:47 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:

You are saying its physically impossible

So if I showed others who have you would then look a right tit then, yes?

Based on what you said, I do not believe you lost a stone of fat in two weeks.

Oh so you are now changing your tune and that you do not discount it cannot be done.

Since when were you qualified to say whether someone can?

I love idiots, they always end up digging a hole they never then can get out of

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by Victorismyhero Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:48 pm

oh and eddie...jogging is fine ...if not over done and done on a soft surface

grass, damp (not wet) sand etc....

Its concrete and tarmac thats not good......

what gets me are the "office lunch break loons" jogging on tarmac, bright red in the face and sweating like pigs....becasue they are running in full summer sun at the hottest part of the day....

cue the heat exhaustion kit Rolling Eyes

then theyu proudly declare I lost 3 lbs on that run....

nope matey ...you didnt...what you DID do was sweat out 2 1/2 pints of water and you are now severely dehydrated.....you will almost certainly drink more than that to compensate.....and put that weight back on.....since its needed. If you DONT...by an effort of will....you will eventually have a heart attack or your kidneys will pack in....as your salt balance collapses

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:49 pm

Lord Foul wrote:oh and eddie...jogging is fine ...if not over done and done on a soft surface

grass, damp (not wet) sand etc....

Its concrete and tarmac thats not good......

what gets me are the "office lunch break loons" jogging on tarmac, bright red in the face and sweating like pigs....becasue they are running in full summer sun at the hottest part of the day....

cue the heat exhaustion kit

then theyu proudly declare I lost 3 lbs on that run....

nope matey ...you didnt...what you DID do was sweat out 2 1/2 pints of water and you are now severely dehydrated.....you will almost certainly drink more than that to compensate.....and put that weight back on.....since its needed. If you DONT...by an effort of will....you will eventually have a heart attack or your kidneys will pack in....as your salt balance collapses

Again back up this with evidence and doing so understanding my human body?

I am not going to take your claims, just becuase I normally respect your view

I want concrete evidence for you to show my body cannot lose that amount of weight within a couple of weeks.

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:50 pm

didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Based on what you said, I do not believe you lost a stone of fat in two weeks.

Oh so you are now changing your tune and that you do not discount it cannot be done.

Since when were you qualified to say whether someone can?

I love idiots, they always end up digging a hole they never then can get out of

I love it that you've now backtracked and said other people can do it. You're such a liar. Laughing

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:51 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:

Oh so you are now changing your tune and that you do not discount it cannot be done.

Since when were you qualified to say whether someone can?

I love idiots, they always end up digging a hole they never then can get out of

I love it that you've now backtracked and said other people can do it. You're such a liar.

So all you can do is accuse and that is the bases for your claim

Razz

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:51 pm

Lord Foul wrote:oh and eddie...jogging is fine ...if not over done and done on a soft surface

grass, damp (not wet) sand etc....

Its concrete and tarmac thats not good......

what gets me are the "office lunch break loons" jogging on tarmac, bright red in the face and sweating like pigs....becasue they are running in full summer sun at the hottest part of the day....

cue the heat exhaustion kit

then theyu proudly declare I lost 3 lbs on that run....

nope matey ...you didnt...what you DID do was sweat out 2 1/2 pints of water and you are now severely dehydrated.....you will almost certainly drink more than that to compensate.....and put that weight back on.....since its needed. If you DONT...by an effort of will....you will eventually have a heart attack or your kidneys will pack in....as your salt balance collapses

Some ladies have to be careful of course - unless they're wearing a bra made of steel. Laughing

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:52 pm

didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

I love it that you've now backtracked and said other people can do it. You're such a liar.

So all you can do is accuse and that is the bases for your claim

Keep digging Didge. One day someone might actually believe all the bullshit you come out with.

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by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:55 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
didge wrote:

So all you can do is accuse and that is the bases for your claim

Keep digging Didge. One day someone might actually believe all the bullshit you come out with.

So you do not believe me, well why change the habbit of a lifetime rags

But then you are a religious freak anyway,. so I am not going to be concerned over your not doing so

Laughing

by Victorismyhero Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:57 pm

didge wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:didge...you cant argue with medical facts...

you are a human...i think....and therfore YOUR metabolism is not going to be so aberant as to do things like that

a net loss of 500 calories per day equates to 1LB of fat a week...(on average)

that is a FACT...simple and immutable (within the acceptable limits of error) (these errors whilst considerable ONLY have an effect over long periods) viz 1 lb of fat on average contains 3500 calories...

it may be as high as 3750 or as low as 2840 (depending on the individual and their state of hydration) over a 7 day week that would make a difference of +36 calories or -100 calories per day

so however you look at it you STILL, no matter how you insist need to lose between 2840 and 3750 calories PER DAY to loose 1lb of fat a day...

unless of course you really are an

You have not presented any medical facts mate

Still waiting for you to do so

Again how on earth can you tell me what my body can do?

Are you now claiming to be a doctor?

no I have HNC (degree equivalent) food science and am an ex member of the IMLT

so YES didge

THE facts I gave yo are correct

there is NO disputing 1LB of fat equates to between 3750 and 2840 calories

thats like saying I gallon of petrol contains "x" killowatt hours of energy

Its a fixed amount

It doesnt matter what YOU say, you cannot change that....

go google...and find somewhere that says different.....

THEN...find somewhere that says walking 5 miles will burn significantly more more than 500 calories

if your walking burnt 3500 calories in the hour or so it takes you ...you would ignite.....

your body temperature would rocket........

just for once admit you are wrong and be done with it

by Victorismyhero Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:59 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Lord Foul wrote:oh and eddie...jogging is fine ...if not over done and done on a soft surface

grass, damp (not wet) sand etc....

Its concrete and tarmac thats not good......

what gets me are the "office lunch break loons" jogging on tarmac, bright red in the face and sweating like pigs....becasue they are running in full summer sun at the hottest part of the day....

cue the heat exhaustion kit

then theyu proudly declare I lost 3 lbs on that run....

nope matey ...you didnt...what you DID do was sweat out 2 1/2 pints of water and you are now severely dehydrated.....you will almost certainly drink more than that to compensate.....and put that weight back on.....since its needed. If you DONT...by an effort of will....you will eventually have a heart attack or your kidneys will pack in....as your salt balance collapses

Some ladies have to be careful of course - unless they're wearing a bra made of steel.

tell me about it....boing boing boing

mind you ...some of the blokes I've seen could use one as well pale

by Guest Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:59 pm

Lord Foul wrote:
didge wrote:

You have not presented any medical facts mate

Still waiting for you to do so

Again how on earth can you tell me what my body can do?

Are you now claiming to be a doctor?

no I have HNC (degree equivalent) food science and am an ex member of the IMLT

so YES didge

THE facts I gave yo are correct

there is NO disputing 1LB of fat equates to between 3750 and 2840 calories

thats like saying I gallon of petrol contains "x" killowatt hours of energy

Its a fixed amount

It doesnt matter what YOU say, you cannot change that....

go google...and find somewhere that says different.....

THEN...find somewhere that says walking 5 miles will burn significantly more more than 500 calories

if your walking burnt 3500 calories in the hour or so it takes you ...you would ignite.....

your body temperature would rocket........

just for once admit you are wrong and be done with it

Again how can you think you can tell me what my body can dop, based on you not even having met me or knowing me medically?

That is why your reasoning is based off a set standard view you hold Victor

hence flawed

Its not just walking that I am doing either

So that is the first mistake you are making

Hearsay counts for zero by the way

I want evidence

Are you also saying its impossible

by Raggamuffin Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:00 pm

didge wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:

Keep digging Didge. One day someone might actually believe all the bullshit you come out with.

So you do not believe me, well why change the habbit of a lifetime rags

But then you are a religious freak anyway,. so I am not going to be concerned over your not doing so

You're a perverted, psychotic freak, so no, I don't believe what you say. Laughing

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