This could be the beginning of the end for Scientology

A brewing power struggle between Lisa Marie Presley and Scientology leader David Miscavige could inflict crippling harm to the controversial “church.”

The only daughter of rock icon Elvis Presley has been slowly pulling herself away from Scientology, to which she was introduced as a child by her mother, since at least 2008, reported Tony Ortega.

Ortega, who served as executive editor of The Raw Story from 2013 until 2015, said Presley has quietly been orchestrating a damaging media campaign against Miscavige as the church slips further into long decline.

Miscavige’s father, Ron Miscavige, will release a “ruthless” memoir May 3 about his own life as the musical director of the hardcore Sea Org sect and his increasingly strained relationship with his son, and he’ll appear April 29 on a “20/20” episode devoted to Scientology.

His 55-year-old son has headed Scientology since founder L. Ron Hubbard’s death in 1986, and he maintains a close — and, according to sources — strange friendship with actor Tom Cruise, probably the most famous member of the church.

The elder Miscavige escaped — literally — four years ago from the church’s International Base near Hemet, California, and two heavily armed private investigators arrested about three years ago near his new home in Wisconsin told police they had been hired by the Church of Scientology to trail him.

Ron Miscavige decided to write the book after that — but first he called Presley, according to Ortega’s sources.

Presley has been nurturing doubts about Scientology for years, but Ortega reported she decided to leave after speaking with Ron Miscavige and others who had escaped Int Base — known as “The Hole” — where the church officials banish their enemies.

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Syl wrote:Cruise is a very shady character imo.
He left his first wife for Nicole Kidman.
His first wife Mimi Rogers, gave an interview saying she needed sex and he was unwilling or unable to oblige....she later back tracked.

Nicole Kidman and him adopted two children....just as they split she announced she was pregnant with his child...conveniently that child miscarried.

Katy Holmes, after all the gushing and declarations of everlasting love, eventually managed to break free and take their daughter with her.

All three now refuse to speak about their marriage and scientology,  even though all three embraced it at the time.

Syl wrote:4Ever, I just watched "A fathers story"....very powerful.
Unfortunately with his chequered past it could be easy to discount most of what he says, but plenty other people agree with him. I believe he is being publicly discredited by the scientologists because he firstly managed to escape, and now he has written the book 'Ruthless'.
The 'disconnection' punishment is real...and very cruel.
The way members are watched and spied on, and prevented from leaving....it's all very sinister.

All in all the video is very interesting.

and what it was doing to my oldest brother shortly after his return from Viet Nam; now that was one diabolical lunatic place in the middle of KS!  "Come give us all of your $$$ and we'll show you the WAY", meanwhile you'll be doing manual labor on your hands & knees with nothing larger then a toothbrush and a bucket of stagnant water and stale bread and foul/out of date bologna sandwiches to eat - while your still working.  And please sing a cheerful hymn while doing these tasks to please the lord thy god!    Like to never got our brother the hell out of there and some of those people still have reunions just to remember "the good ole days"

eddie wrote:Link here if anyone finds it please

Syl wrote:

eddie wrote:Link here if anyone finds it please

I found itand watched it on YouTube...I think it's the same vid 4Ever was talking about.

4EVER2 wrote:Ok, that was pretty dang interesting and those mega plantation/secured places that the inner circle are allowed to live/stay & work at --- well our government could take lessons!   But seriously --- I had 'NO IDEA' that this cult had become such a huge money maker!

If you don't have a 'paid' cable source that is provided at this link...it's available for free at the same link - next Friday. Enjoy >>>

http://abc.go.com/shows/2020/episode-guide/2016-04/29-042916-a-fathers-story

  I see backing up and reading the posts you've missed isn't your 'forté' Mister Ben~~~

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Did anybody watch 20/20 last night? I missed it. I wonder if it's on the line somewhere ...

Syl wrote: wrote:4Ever, I just watched "A fathers story"....very powerful.
Unfortunately with his chequered past it could be easy to discount most of what he says, but plenty other people agree with him. I believe he is being publicly discredited by the scientologists because he firstly managed to escape, and now he has written the book 'Ruthless'.
The 'disconnection' punishment is real...and very cruel.
The way members are watched and spied on, and prevented from leaving....it's all very sinister.

All in all the video is very interesting.

Ben_Reilly wrote:I've watched about half of it, definitely worth checking out. I have a feeling that YouTube channel might be ordered to take it down, so I'm going to try to find a way to save it.

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Ben_Reilly wrote:I've watched about half of it, definitely worth checking out. I have a feeling that YouTube channel might be ordered to take it down, so I'm going to try to find a way to save it.

This is what you'll find when you click on 'MY LINK' > > >

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Cass wrote:Read Leah Rimini's new autobiography - Troublemaker.

For those who don't know her, good actress on longtime Tv show King of Queens and now ex-scientologist.

Madonna isn't a Scientilogist but rather a member of the Kabbalah Center. Pseudo Judaic Mysticism cult.

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Yeah, but I don't have cable, and nobody on the other side of the pond is going to be able to check them out. I was looking for YouTube or the like.

eddie wrote:I watched  that last night....coupled with the other video link I Watched on this thread, I'd say we should be very worried indeed about Scientology taking a real hold with bigger numbers.....

WhoseYourWolfie wrote:

Cass wrote:Read Leah Rimini's new autobiography - Troublemaker.

For those who don't know her, good actress on longtime Tv show King of Queens and now ex-scientologist.

Madonna isn't a Scientilogist but rather a member of the Kabbalah Center. Pseudo Judaic Mysticism cult.

I WOULDN'T exactly call them "pseudo", so much -- as rather a fringe breakaway cult, still loosely based on Judaism...

THE same way that Westbo Baptists could be described as (very) loosely based on Southern Evangelical groups (who were already a fruit loop mob, loosely based on Christian fundamentalism..).