Two men jailed for sexually grooming a 15-year-old girl on Skype
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Two men jailed for sexually grooming a 15-year-old girl on Skype
Christopher Stockton and Richard Bowers tried to meet the teen, and were locked up for two years
Christopher Stockton and Richard Bowers groomed a 15-year-old on Skype
Two Liverpool men were jailed for grooming a 15-year-old girl on Skype and persuading her to indulge in sex acts.
One of them - Christopher Stockton - knew the girl was suicidal, but still tried to get sexual gratification at her expense, Mold Crown Court was told.
The 36-year-old persuaded her to remove her clothing and perform an erotic act while his own partner was pregnant with his baby.
Stockton, of Denebank Road, Anfield, was locked up for two years after admitting arranging the commission of a child sex offence by sending the girl text messages and two of inciting a child to engage in sexual activity.
Richard Bowers, 21, arranged twice to meet up with the underage girl, but she didn’t turn up, although he then threatened to expose her by publishing indecent photos of her on the web.
The Garston man, of Chapel Road, even bombarded the teenager with messages as the police investigation began and once posted a message through the letterbox where she lived.
During their chats, discovered by her parents on her laptop, mechanic Bowers had told her he loved her, wanted to marry her and have children together.
Bowers was also jailed for two years after admitted one count of inciting a child sex offence over the internet – and possessing indecent images of the girl and one video recording of her, together with other explicit images.
Judge Niclas Parry told the defendants: “This is a case that highlights the danger of social media.”
“It was the worst nightmare for any parent of a young girl.
“Although you lived in another part of the country and never met, social media made it possible for you and the victim to strike up a relationship.”
The teenager, from Flintshire, north Wales, suffered mental health problems because of the sexual targeting and was unfit to be a witness in the case.
Judge Parry told Stockton: “You effectively groomed her.
“You called her your Princess, said you would look after her, did your best to meet her and sent messages to facilitate the commission of a child sex offence which was what he had in mind.
“By your control over her, you gained sexual gratification by persuading her to pose naked for you.”
Both men, who had never been in trouble before, and did not know each other, were ordered to register with the police as sex offenders for ten years.
When interviewed by police, Bowers said he believed the girl to be 17 when meeting her on a dating internet site, but accepted later becoming aware of her true age.
Stockton admitted being a loner and using chat rooms to have sexual chats with other people.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/two-men-jailed-sexually-grooming-11180577
Over 90% of grooming of children is done on the internet, I used to be so careful with my grandaughter.
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Stormee wrote:I would torture the filthy pigz.
Great idea; those rat bastards can't be trusted out in regular society and now what the hell will 2 years of jail time teach them ???
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Re: Two men jailed for sexually grooming a 15-year-old girl on Skype
Meanwhile...
Luton police officer mohammed arsehead jailed for 23 years for raping 12 young girls he stalked on Facebook...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pervert-ex-cop-who-trawled-7761771
I'm sure sassy will be outraged...
...at me for daring to bring this story to people's attention!
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One has nothing to do with the other...seems really immature and very beneath YOU --- especially since you've convinced LORDFOUL that you are such a man of substance and virtueTommy Monk wrote:
Meanwhile...
Luton police officer mohammed arsehead jailed for 23 years for raping 12 young girls he stalked on Facebook...http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pervert-ex-cop-who-trawled-7761771
I'm sure sassy will be outraged...
...at me for daring to bring this story to people's attention!
So you support the abuse of young girls...NOW that would be as awful as your feeble attempt at STIRRING THE POT---right
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And I'm sure Tommy will have a lot to say about these
Preston takeaway staff jailed for sex abuse of underage girls
James Ruehle, Kert Birtwistle and Michael McDougal also pleaded guilty to making indecent images of children
Three men who worked at a takeaway have been jailed for up to 10 years sexually exploiting teenage girls.
The owner and two employees of JR's Chicago Hot Dogs in Preston were jailed at the city's crown court after pleading guilty at a previous hearing.
They were jailed for sexual offences against five girls aged under 16 between August and September 2014.
The girls were lured to a hotel with the promise of modelling work, given alcohol and cannabis, then abused.
Employee Michael McDougal, 31, pleaded guilty to two counts of sexual activity with a child under 16 and was jailed for nine years.
Fellow employee Kert Birtwistle, 20, was sentenced to four-and-a-half years after pleading guilty to sexual activity with a child under 16.
All three defendants also pleaded guilty to making indecent images of children.
Sophie Lorimer, of the Crown Prosecution Service, said: "The business was a front for something far more sinister which was going on behind the scenes.
"The girls had been specifically lured by the men in order to be sexually exploited.
"All three defendants showed utter disregard for the effects that this degrading abuse would have on their victims simply to satisfy their own sexual desires."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-36049427
Preston takeaway staff jailed for sex abuse of underage girls
James Ruehle, Kert Birtwistle and Michael McDougal also pleaded guilty to making indecent images of children
Three men who worked at a takeaway have been jailed for up to 10 years sexually exploiting teenage girls.
The owner and two employees of JR's Chicago Hot Dogs in Preston were jailed at the city's crown court after pleading guilty at a previous hearing.
They were jailed for sexual offences against five girls aged under 16 between August and September 2014.
The girls were lured to a hotel with the promise of modelling work, given alcohol and cannabis, then abused.
Indecent images
The owner of the takeaway, James Ruehle, 67, was sentenced to 10 years and four months in jail after pleading guilty to four counts of sexual activity with a child under 16.Employee Michael McDougal, 31, pleaded guilty to two counts of sexual activity with a child under 16 and was jailed for nine years.
Fellow employee Kert Birtwistle, 20, was sentenced to four-and-a-half years after pleading guilty to sexual activity with a child under 16.
All three defendants also pleaded guilty to making indecent images of children.
'Degrading abuse'
Det Con Ian Marsh said: "I am pleased that the offenders have now been jailed for their abhorrent actions and I hope the victims, who have been extremely brave throughout this investigation, are able to move forward with their lives now that these men have been brought to justice."Sophie Lorimer, of the Crown Prosecution Service, said: "The business was a front for something far more sinister which was going on behind the scenes.
"The girls had been specifically lured by the men in order to be sexually exploited.
"All three defendants showed utter disregard for the effects that this degrading abuse would have on their victims simply to satisfy their own sexual desires."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-36049427
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Actually Stormee, the percentage of white men committing these crimes are far, far higher. They mostly do it over the internet, or marry women with children to get at the children.
That's just the tip of the iceberg
The White Gang that Raped and Abused Children & Babies
They 'Forgot' to Mention the Child Abuse & Rape Gang's Colour, Ethnicity or Racial BackgroundYou could be forgiven for missing the story. Unlike the Pakistani gang who committed similar outrages (though from memory not on babies) in Rochdale, there was no mention of their ethnic origins, colour or background. They were of course White. No one sought to suggest that there might be a link between their Whiteness and their vile behaviour because most people understand that people like this commit these atrocities for reasons that have nothing to do with their race, colour, ethnicity or whatever.
But remember the Daily Mail, Express, Sun et al. pontificating about the politically correct brigade that wouldn’t allow people to connect the racial dots? How this was all about free speech and the protection of children. How strange it is that these same papers have forgotten to make such connections in this case.
Denham and Stansfield were part of a child sex abuse ring that planned to abuse a baby that had not yet been born
It is, of course, difficult to understand what makes people such as this behave in this way. How any human being can find any pleasure in raping and abusing a small child or even a baby. Paedophillia is a taboo subject and people are afraid of even going there yet we should be doing so. The Police estimate that over 50,000 people are downloading images of child pornography. Only a small number of these will ever attempt to translate their fantasies into reality.
What we don’t know is why this is the case. Why is it that a small minority, but significant nonetheless, is sexually attracted to children. Some claim that it is hardwired into them in much the same way as being straight or gay is something you are born with (by and large). If this is so then of course there is little one can do except adopt preventative measures. But having talked to one person who did undergo therapy, which is barely available in this country, I am of the view that paedophilia is socially constructed and therapy is possible as a cure.
What I am convinced of is that punitive measures alone will never prevent the behaviour of gangs such as this or indeed the actions of a certain peer of the realm.
Tony Greenstein'Vile and depraved' UK gang raped and abused babies
Members of a paedophile network whose crimes were described as the most "vile and depraved" police had seen have been convicted of arranging abuse.The UK-wide gang raped and abused babies and young children, streaming the attacks online to fellow members.
John Denham, 49, and Matthew Stansfield, 34, had denied plotting sex crimes against the victims.
They were found guilty after a trial at Bristol Crown Court. Five other members had earlier admitted various offences.
The group used the internet to plan and stream abuse and tried to groom pregnant women in order to find new victims, the trial heard.This prosecution will take you into a world you wished did not exist Robert Davies, Prosecutor
In one case, they groomed a mother and father before their child was born.
Officers from the National Crime Agency, which led the investigation, said the crimes were the most "vile and depraved" it had ever investigated.
Earlier, a jury convicted former actor Denham, 49, from Wiltshire - previously known as Benjamin Harrop - of conspiracy to sexually assault a child under 13.
Stansfield, 34, from Hampshire, was found guilty of conspiracy to rape a child under 13. Denham was cleared of the same charge.
Five others pleaded guilty to offences including rape of a child and conspiracy to rape at an earlier hearing. They are:
- Robin Hollyson, 30, from Bedfordshire
- Christopher Knight, 35, from Manchester
- David Harsley, 51, from Hull
- Matthew Lisk, 32, from East Sussex
- Adam Toms, 33, from Somerset
A date is yet to be set for their sentencing.
The investigation identified three victims - a baby, a toddler and a young child - who were raped and assaulted by the men who had gained the trust of unsuspecting parents.
They met online and were prepared to drive for hours to carry out abuse when an opportunity became available, police said.
The gang also discussed the drugging of children and used video conferencing websites to broadcast the abuse to fellow members.
Police believe there were other victims, and have put measures in place to protect another 21 children found to be at risk.
Despite the men's efforts to destroy evidence, police were able to retrieve webchats where the gang discussed their plans, with comments such as "I'm really in to v.v. young", and "sicker the better".'Abhorrent fantasies'
Material which could lead to the arrest of other paedophiles has been sent on to police forces on five continents.
Prosecutor Robert Davies told the jury in the Denham and Stansfield trial: "This prosecution will take you into a world you wished did not exist.
"The evidence exposes the shocking interest a group of men had in sexually abusing babies, toddlers or pre-school children.
"A real baby was for certain abused and raped by some of those involved."
Earlier in the trial, Denham told the court he had become "desensitised" after watching a young teenage girl performing a sex act on a man, and the age range "dropped lower and lower".
He said he was "ashamed" of deriving sexual gratification from child pornography and now understood there were "real victims".
The NSPCC has described the case as "vile" and is running a helpline for anyone worried their child may have been a victim.http://azvsas.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/the-white-gang-that-raped-and-abused.html
That's just the tip of the iceberg
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I think its pretty appalling using child abuse cases to score points against Muslims or non-Muslims. They are all horrendous and stopping these things happening should be a priority, not trying to make out a particular minority is more or less likely to be involved than the rest of society.
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Eilzel wrote:I think its pretty appalling using child abuse cases to score points against Muslims or non-Muslims. They are all horrendous and stopping these things happening should be a priority, not trying to make out a particular minority is more or less likely to be involved than the rest of society.
Agreed.
In this aspect religion nor culture, nor the social construct of race is a factor to why some people sexually abuse children
It was not because of Christianity that made Priests become pedophiles. They instead used the faith as a cover.
If anything religion should protect against sexual abuse, based on its view of sex before marriage and adultery.
No matter what nation, you will have those that abuse children
The only question that should be raised is if people did protect them within the community, of which there is no evidence or need for them to have done so. As again they were allowed to get away for years committing these crimes due to a fundamental failure of the Police and Social Services.
Their excuse over a fear of being labelled racists, does not cut it. The law of the land should always come first and foremost and if you have evidence of crimes being committed, you then fail in your position to uphold the law. Through a fear they themselves created not to act off.
If the Police claimed to me they failed to convict a criminal that caused harm to a member of my family, due to fears of being labeled racist.
I would petition for all those who instigated such a view within that force to be disciplined for gross negligence, calling for their removal.
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I will condemn all while lefties will actively cover up the crimes by Muslims...
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No... just incredibly disappointed to see that none of those involved in covering up the Muslim crimes have been punished yet...
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So some people are more concerned with the ethnicity of the perp than the victims of their crimes. Nice.
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Tommy Monk wrote:
Meanwhile...
Luton police officer mohammed arsehead jailed for 23 years for raping 12 young girls he stalked on Facebook...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pervert-ex-cop-who-trawled-7761771
I'm sure sassy will be outraged...
...at me for daring to bring this story to people's attention!
The thing about Muslim men committing crimes like this is their whole Islamic bull crap about how women should be protected by covering up etc etc, kind of falls apart like rotten cloth in the face of sex attacks. It's on a par with those kiddie fiddling Catholic priests.
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Miffs2 wrote:So some people are more concerned with the ethnicity of the perp than the victims of their crimes. Nice.
No. But it's the hypocrisy of it all when the offender is preaching about morals to others.
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Eilzel wrote:I think its pretty appalling using child abuse cases to score points against Muslims or non-Muslims. They are all horrendous and stopping these things happening should be a priority, not trying to make out a particular minority is more or less likely to be involved than the rest of society.
Then don't insult the culture you live alongside by saying things like Western culture is so corrupt you'd prefer Sharia Law and white Western women are whores and sluts...then go and rape some kid.
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HoratioTarr wrote:Eilzel wrote:I think its pretty appalling using child abuse cases to score points against Muslims or non-Muslims. They are all horrendous and stopping these things happening should be a priority, not trying to make out a particular minority is more or less likely to be involved than the rest of society.
Then don't insult the culture you live alongside by saying things like Western culture is so corrupt you'd prefer Sharia Law and white Western women are whores and sluts...then go and rape some kid.
But and here is the big butt, they did it because they are abusers of children full stop. How many other offenders have not shown any remorse for the victims and even claimed they were justified? Now there is fundamental problems with a literal belief, but like I stated earlier, Islam like Christianity will teach a view on it being wrong and a sin to have sex before marriage and to commit adultery. This would have applied as equally in Pakistan also if found to be committing adultery and sex before marriage. So even though these absolute beliefs are shambolic and effect the well being and equality of people. They would be breaking these same commands in Pakistan. The culture allowed for them to view children as adults, which is problematic, but it did not cause or make them sexually abuse children. They simply used that as an excuse in court.
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