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Post by Guest Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:45 pm

Ukip has launched its Scottish manifesto in an effort to woo voters with pledges to raise the drink-driving limit, reintroduce smoking in pubs and clubs, and repeal airgun legislation for people wishing to take up target shooting. 
Unveiling the 32-page manifesto Nigel Farage proclaimed that Ukip are the “independence party in Scotland” and urged Scots to vote for the 26 candidates his party are fielding in the regional list on 5 May.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip-scottish-manifesto-drink-drive-limits-smoking-pubs-airguns-pubs-farage-a6973336.html


Raise the drink driving limit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!      Stupid doesn't begin to cover it.

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Post by eddie Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:06 pm

It's kind of insulting to Scottish people actually?

"Here are some things we think you care most about..."

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:09 pm

Wait --- WAIT - A - MINUTE; wasn't there just another thread around here dispensing the higher IQ of those Scotts??? Ukip attempts to woo Scottish voters with higher drink drive limits, airgun ban repeal, and smoking in pubs Homer-thinking

Surely those higher intelligent humans won't fall for such a low bar bribe --- Surely NOT confused

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:11 pm

No they won't.  UKIP are nuts, a party you point at and laugh lol

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Post by Tommy Monk Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:25 pm

Hold on a minute... hasn't Scotland just lowered the alcohol limit for driving recently and to now be lower than the rest of uk...?


And while this has not stopped anyone driving when pissed... it has made criminals of vast numbers of sensible drivers who have only had a glass or two of wine/beer and meant they have also been banned from driving for a year too!!!


Also... why should they have such draconian laws on air gun target shooting anyway...?


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Post by nicko Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:25 am

Please explain "Air gun" regulations?
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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:42 pm




"UKIP stands for more than just leaving the European Union, Nigel Farage has said, as the party launches its local elections campaign in England.

Mr Farage said immigration, housing, local democracy, schools and public spending were key issues for the party.

He said UKIP offered "plain speaking" in local government and he hoped more of its "free-spirited" candidates would be elected to local councils."






http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35989187
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:07 pm

Yea, in Scotland it stands for letting people drink and drive and kill and maim men, women and children.

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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:15 pm

Answer my point about the drink drive limit being recently lowered to criminalize decent people who have had a couple glasses of wine but done nothing to stop pissed up twats driving! !!
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:17 pm

Good, it should be zero, not one drop.

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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:41 pm



No it shouldn't be zero at all... that is ridiculous and would criminalize even more decent responsible people!


You could have a couple in the evening and still have a trace in system in morning... under your rules they woukd get a year ban and 200 quid fine!!!
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:49 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:No it shouldn't be zero at all... that is ridiculous and would criminalize even more decent responsible people!

You could have a couple in the evening and still have a trace in system in morning... under your rules they woukd get a year ban and 200 quid fine!!!
Would you agree that not every human out here absorbs their alcohol {regardless of the number or volume} in the same way? 
See, I'm a real light weight for the speed that any alcoholic beverage hits my stability ratio --- One excellent glass of wine and I'm barely able to verbalize let alone function behind a vehicle Mad
If all of us KNEW that any drink - any quantity - any brand name {or not} would make our driving against the LAW; would we not be responsible and make sure we had a designated drive for that evening - that event - that outing? Ukip attempts to woo Scottish voters with higher drink drive limits, airgun ban repeal, and smoking in pubs 2190311264

What's the problem with being a RESPONSIBLE CITIZEN and following the LAW?

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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:09 pm

If you know you are unfit to drive after a small amount of wine then you shouldn't drive anyway...
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Post by eddie Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:10 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:If you know you are unfit to drive after a small amount of wine then you shouldn't drive anyway...

I think total abstinence is the best way to go if you're going to drive.
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Post by Guest Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:11 pm

Everyone is unfit to drive after a small amount of wine.  Haven't you seen the tests they have done on people who have had a little bit and think they are fine, but their reactions are much slower than they think they are.

If you have a drink, the only responsible thing to do is NOT DRIVE.  That half a second difference in your reactions might make the difference between killing someone or not killing them.

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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:42 pm

Sassy... do you really think that all our roads are already that dangerous that it is always only half a millisecond between being safe and death/carnage etc...!?


If you are going to put that tight a margin of safety on it then surely it is also necessary to get all the bad drivers off yhe road and all with naturally slower reaction times off the road etc...!?



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Post by Guest Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:54 pm

You're a numbskull Tommy and obviously should never be behind the wheel of a car.

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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:58 pm

Has the reduction of limit in Scotland actually prevented any drunk people from driving...!?


Have any more drunk people been prosecuted by police by the lowering of limit in Scotland. ..?
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Post by eddie Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:05 pm

Tommy you're talking absolute bollocks.
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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:55 pm

Eddie... what have I said that is bollocks...?
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Post by eddie Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:54 pm

The fact you think they should raise the drink-driving limit
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Post by Tommy Monk Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:08 pm

Eddie... think it was recently lowered to be under the level seen through rest of uk... which is already low enough... think Ukip are just saying it should be restored to previous level as seen in rest of uk...


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Post by eddie Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:13 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:Eddie... think it was recently lowered to be under the level seen through rest of uk... which is already low enough... think Ukip are just saying it should be restored to previous level as seen in rest of uk...



Ah oh ok then my apologies. You're not talking bollocks on this thread then lol, but I still think it should be abstinence.
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Post by veya_victaous Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:21 am

I agree with Tommy.

i think we should raise ours to 0.08 like many states in the USA (it's 0.05 ATM)
if you can't drive safely at 0.05 then you should not have a license at all

or vastly improve public transport
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Post by Guest Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:04 pm

Smoking in pubs Ukip attempts to woo Scottish voters with higher drink drive limits, airgun ban repeal, and smoking in pubs Sick10 Yes, yes I know, ex smokers are the worst critics but I would really hate to see smoking back in pubs and restaurants.

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:11 pm

Not in restaurants but pubs could easily have well ventilated smoking areas with plenty of extractor fans... I would be fine with that.


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feelthelove wrote:Smoking in pubs Ukip attempts to woo Scottish voters with higher drink drive limits, airgun ban repeal, and smoking in pubs Sick10 Yes, yes I know, ex smokers are the worst critics but I would really hate to see smoking back in pubs and restaurants.

EXTRACTOR FANS - PURE AIR REGENERATORS...do not protect the people serving those same humans that can't refrain from smoking!  My neighbor across the street is now on Oxygen 24/7 because she was told; 'don't worry about all of that 2nd hand smoke hype --- our AIR purifiers will protect you'...PURE BS is what that statement was. 
Her husband {the bartender} died from lung cancer - both lungs...and he was only a occasional pipe smoker.  2nd hand smoke is deadly --- go outside Ukip attempts to woo Scottish voters with higher drink drive limits, airgun ban repeal, and smoking in pubs 1366281442

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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:21 pm

2nd hand diesel smoke is deadly outside...


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Post by Guest Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:35 pm

Tommy Monk wrote:2nd hand diesel smoke is deadly outside...

Then by all means available; be an ASTUTE humanoid and do not stand behind any running diesel engines Rolling Eyes

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