32,000 people don't get their benefits for Christmas

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Christmas Benefit Payments: Thousands Miss Out
An administration error is blamed as up to 32,000 people are told they'll have to wait until December 27 for their benefits.
9:29am UK, Wednesday 25 December 2013

Tens of thousands of people have not received benefit payments in time for Christmas.

The money for jobseekers, low earners and pensioners had been due to arrive in their accounts on Tuesday, but will now not arrive until Friday.

Up to 32,000 people are believed to be affected. The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) blamed an administration error.

Those affected include new claimants, those owed arrears and people awarded Social Fund budgeting loans for essentials such as clothes, rent and furniture.

The DWP said that if individuals had contacted them by 5pm last night the payment would have been rushed through within three hours.

http://news.sky.com/story/1186935/christmas-benefit-payments-thousands-miss-out

I hope Dave, IDS et all choke on their bloody turkeys!

A spokesman said: "The vast majority of regular benefit payments have been made on time this Christmas.

"However due to an administrative issue, a number of one-off or more irregular payments will now be paid on December 27 rather than December 24.

"We have procedures in place to ensure that anyone who has been affected by this and who contacted us would have had their benefits paid, usually within three hours.

"We apologise for any inconvenience caused."

A total of 32,200 people claiming Jobseeker's Allowance, Employment Support Allowance, Social Fund and certain categories of pension could have been hit by the delay, the spokesman said.

Joy Division wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


I thought you like facts Joy, accept of course when they prove under Labour the working poor were of course worse off

So much has gone so badly wrong under this coalition Didge, there were maternity grants under Labour, WTC were given to folk working 15 hours,the VAT was temporarily reduced to only 15% until it was put back to its normal 17.5%...

Now we have terminal folk being told they are fit for work , VAT at all time highs of 20%, folk who can not get any dole money for so many weeks when they put in a fresh claim ...all designed to put them off getting money, mass public sector job losses....


It's truly broken Britain under the this coalition Didge, but you know that already..

Bring back Labour any day,,,the party of the hard working , low paid people .

So much has gone right do you not mean, now with a much fairer benefit system, where it is not better off to be unemployed than it is to work, that those on lower wages are taxed less. We have a system to check disabilities which I admit needs tweaking but not changing as labour would have the same policy. So on all fronts it is much better off, less public sector jobs, saving millions, less unemployed, half a million new businesses started this year.
That seems a winner to me!

Joy Division wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

Yes saying you are right makes you right now Joy, behave, as seen you lefties get a spanking every time and is funny to watch and as seen under Labour the working poor were worse off under Labour.

Opps

You do not mention all the severe , too much , too soon austerity measures under this coalition Didge, we never had the amount of food banks like we do now when Labour were in, it's all doom and gloom now,poverty is rife in all areas of Britain...and mainly because of this government.

Yes but you had millions using crisis loans under labour what on earth do you call that dear Joy, now think about that and place in today's situation, it is not that much different.

Didge is yet again ignoring every bit of evidence, because his concience would explode if he took it to heart.

Sassy wrote:Didge is yet again ignoring every bit of evidence, because his concience would explode if he took it to heart.

As seen you are sassy.

Epic fail again

Joy Division wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:

Yes saying you are right makes you right now Joy, behave, as seen you lefties get a spanking every time and is funny to watch and as seen under Labour the working poor were worse off under Labour.

Opps

You do not mention all the severe , too much , too soon austerity measures under this coalition Didge, we never had the amount of food banks like we do now when Labour were in, it's all doom and gloom now,poverty is rife in all areas of Britain...and mainly because of this government.

To be fair though, there are more food banks than ever in the US too - under Obama's rule! It's not just a British thing. And if there had been a Labour government for the past couple of years, what do you think the situation would be today? What magic wand would they have waved to make the national debt disappear? That's the debt that they racked up remember. Maybe they would have copied Hollande's methods? That's worked well hasn't it?

The debt was racked up by the banking failure, without that we would have been doing quite well. The Tories have increased the national debt per capita of GDP and it is still going up. Idealogically they are trying to make the poor pay more and the rich pay less.

Sassy wrote:The debt was racked up by the banking failure, without that we would have been doing quite well.  The Tories have increased the national debt per capita of GDP and it is still going up.   Idealogically they are trying to make the poor pay more and the rich pay less.

So maybe the British could have used their gold reserve to pay off a huge chunk of the debt. Why didn't they?

Loki wrote:

Joy Division wrote:


You do not mention all the severe , too much , too soon austerity measures under this coalition Didge, we never had the amount of food banks like we do now when Labour were in, it's all doom and gloom now,poverty is rife in all areas of Britain...and mainly because of this government.

To be fair though, there are more food banks than ever in the US too - under Obama's rule!  It's not just a British thing.  And if there had been a Labour government for the past couple of years, what do you think the situation would be today?  What magic wand would they have waved to make the national debt disappear?  That's the debt that they racked up remember.  Maybe they would have copied Hollande's methods?  That's worked well hasn't it?

No magic wand I guess and I think whatever party had won the election would still have to take measures to reduce the national debt, but I think Labour would have done so over a longer period of time and not so deep with so many cuts all at once...

Ok the interest may have remained a bit higher over longer periods of time, but at least the poorer and low paid people of Britain would not have suffered as much as they have under this coalition...which obviously has caused far more harm than good.

Joy Division wrote:

Loki wrote:
To be fair though, there are more food banks than ever in the US too - under Obama's rule!  It's not just a British thing.  And if there had been a Labour government for the past couple of years, what do you think the situation would be today?  What magic wand would they have waved to make the national debt disappear?  That's the debt that they racked up remember.  Maybe they would have copied Hollande's methods?  That's worked well hasn't it?

No magic wand I guess and I think whatever party had won the election would still have to take measures to reduce the national debt, but I think Labour would have done so over a longer period of time and not so deep with so many cuts all at once...

Ok the interest may have remained a bit higher over longer periods of time, but at least the poorer and low paid people of Britain would not have suffered as much as they have under this coalition...which obviously has caused far more harm than good.

But the fact is the lower paid people are now better off under the coalition than they were under Labour, so that just does not hold true what you are saying, does it Joy.

Anyway, have to go, so have a nice evening Joy!

Well, Gordon Brown certainly mistimed the gold he sold off, however
the $3.5bn of revenue raised in the sales was invested in interest-bearing assets denominated in dollars, euros and yen to the extent of 40%, 40% and 20% respectively.

So to calculate the true net loss to the taxpayer, you would have to adjust for the yield on these assets and movements in the value of those currencies and the information for that is difficult to find.
Probably Brown’s great gold sale would be a bit less than $9bn – but it would still be a very significant loss.

Basically they thought other investments would earn their keep, by generating interest payments.

They also thought that rampant global inflation was a thing of the past, and that the days of gold’s soaraway success would never recur.

They weren’t alone in reducing their gold holdings. The Swiss, the Belgians and the Dutch also sold very significant amounts.


Since then, the Tories have done their best to sell off everything else.

Sassy wrote:The debt was racked up by the banking failure, without that we would have been doing quite well.  The Tories have increased the national debt per capita of GDP and it is still going up.   Idealogically they are trying to make the poor pay more and the rich pay less.

How are the poor paying more sassy?

Which poor people are now paying more?

Please explain.

PhilDidge wrote:

Joy Division wrote:

No magic wand I guess and I think whatever party had won the election would still have to take measures to reduce the national debt, but I think Labour would have done so over a longer period of time and not so deep with so many cuts all at once...

Ok the interest may have remained a bit higher over longer periods of time, but at least the poorer and low paid people of Britain would not have suffered as much as they have under this coalition...which obviously has caused far more harm than good.

But the fact is the lower paid people are now better off under the coalition than they were under Labour, so that just does not hold true what you are saying, does it Joy.

Anyway, have to go, so have a nice evening Joy!

..if that the case then Didge why are you whinging there are so many unemployed?

It's never always paid to work on low pay under this government. And it's only now the government are addressing the 10£k tax level bracket...

Under previous Tory governments , low paid people got nothing to help them,surviving on as little as £2-3 an hour, with tax on top...

Only a Labour government have the working people the NMW and tax credits, people were left to theor own deep vices with no help under previous Tory governments Didge or Dodge??( questions) ...

Weet dreams btw mate!  

Joy Division wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


But the fact is the lower paid people are now better off under the coalition than they were under Labour, so that just does not hold true what you are saying, does it Joy.

Anyway, have to go, so have a nice evening Joy!

..if that the case then Didge why are you whinging there are so many unemployed?

It's never always paid to work on low pay under this government. And it's only now the government are addressing the 10£k tax level bracket...

Under previous Tory governments , low paid people got nothing to help them,surviving on as little as £2-3 an hour, with tax on top...

Only a Labour government have the working people the NMW and tax credits, people were left to theor own deep vices with no help under previous Tory governments Didge or Dodge??( questions) ...

Weet dreams btw mate!  

Really those on lower pay are better off than they were under labour full stop, they pay less in taxes, which seems to escape you Joy.

That was previous Tory governments, this is a coalition by the way, or had that escaped you also, with many of the policies backed by the Liberals

Right really have to go, so have a good evening all

 :D 

                      

Thats the way Didge, say goodbye with a joke to leave them rolling in the aisles. 

Don't go everybody - I need someone to explain sassy's comments on how the poor pay more.

Sorry, been doing washing up.

Don't you read Andy:

An example:

The Tory mantra that “we’re all in this together” was officially exposed today as an appalling lie.

Toffs David Cameron and George Osborne have been spouting their catchphrase while forcing poor people to pay more tax than the rich.

Official figures show that the least well off households have been coughing up 36.6% of their income to the Treasury.

But the wealthiest have been paying less – 35.5%.

The Office for National Statistics, which released the report, partly blamed the tax scandal on millionaire Mr Osborne’s controversial decision to raise VAT to 20% in January 2011.

The duty on everyday goods such as food and fuel clobbers hard-up families more than the wealthy because the tax is paid at the same rate no matter how much people earn.

Shadow Treasury Secretary Chris Leslie said the figures were proof that Mr Osborne’s VAT hike was a tax on the poor.

Mr Leslie said: “What more evidence could anyone need that this Government is piling higher costs on lower and middle-income households while cutting taxes for the wealthy?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/poor-officially-pay-higher-tax-2043852

It's checkable on other sites.

So this is a debate, huh? The lefties say, "Poor people are being denied their government benefits just in time for the holidays! I hope the government officials responsible for this choke on their nice dinners."

And apparently the right-wing counterpoint is, "Bad things happened when the left was running the government too! And it's not nice to say people should choke; they could die! Do you actually think they deserve to die because of one itty-bitty mistake?"

Seriously, Phil:

You definitely chose the right person for the clapping lol

BigAndy9 wrote:Don't go everybody - I need someone to explain sassy's comments on how the poor pay more.

Pay more for what?

Sassy wrote:Sorry, been doing washing up.

Don't you read Andy:

An example:

The Tory mantra that “we’re all in this together” was officially exposed today as an appalling lie.

Toffs David Cameron and George Osborne have been spouting their catchphrase while forcing poor people to pay more tax than the rich.

Official figures show that the least well off households have been coughing up 36.6% of their income to the Treasury.

But the wealthiest have been paying less – 35.5%.

The Office for National Statistics, which released the report, partly blamed the tax scandal on millionaire Mr Osborne’s controversial decision to raise VAT to 20% in January 2011.

The duty on everyday goods such as food and fuel clobbers hard-up families more than the wealthy because the tax is paid at the same rate no matter how much people earn.

Shadow Treasury Secretary Chris Leslie said the figures were proof that Mr Osborne’s VAT hike was a tax on the poor.

Mr Leslie said: “What more evidence could anyone need that this Government is piling higher costs on lower and middle-income households while cutting taxes for the wealthy?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/poor-officially-pay-higher-tax-2043852

It's checkable on other sites.

Exactly right but there is little chance of any rational debate with the cap doffers and forelock tuggers because they have been conditioned to accept nothing but the messages fed to them by Tory central office. And as we have seen any attempt to confront them are met with accusations that they are just liars and if that fails next up comes the claim that it's all Labour's fault.

Always the same - never changes.

I rest my case on the mentality of lefties, though Ben's post was funny, will give him that, the only one it seems with a sense of humour.

Right until tomorrow.

 :D 

Wait, hold on! Have we just exposed that all people who vote for the pedophiles in Labour also believe that all conservatives must be instantly executed via choking to death whenever they make a mistake????!!!!

sassy, you really have been duped by that Mirror article.

That is hilarious.

So they support Labour politicians boinking little kids and choking Tories? What is society to do with such monsters?

BigAndy9 wrote:sassy, you really have been duped by that Mirror article.

That is hilarious.

That is a checkable fact, but go with the me being duped if it makes you feel better. After all, I wouldn't want a Tory to choke to death on his Horlicks would I?    

Ben_Reilly wrote:Wait, hold on! Have we just exposed that all people who vote for the pedophiles in Labour also believe that all conservatives must be instantly executed via choking to death whenever they make a mistake????!!!!

Something like that lol

Ben_Reilly wrote:So they support Labour politicians boinking little kids and choking Tories? What is society to do with such monsters?

  


I like your wit Ben.

 ::%:: 

Choke the Tories on their own policies lol

Ben_Reilly wrote:So they support Labour politicians boinking little kids and choking Tories? What is society to do with such monsters?

They mainly end up working for the bbc

NemsAgain wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:So they support Labour politicians boinking little kids and choking Tories? What is society to do with such monsters?

They mainly end up working for the bbc

                

That was good!

I would say that anybody who supports politicians boinking children and executing conservatives any time they make a tiny little mistake deserves to choke to death on their Christmas dinners, but I won't say that because it's not a very nice thing to say, is it?

       ::lightsab:: ::lightsab:: ::lightsab:: ::lightsab:: ::lightsab:: ::lightsab:: ::lightsab:: ::lightsab:: ::lightsab:: ::lightsab::       

What can I say now other than VIVA LA REVOLUTION  ::sexbnan: ::sexbnan: ::sexbnan: ::sexbnan: ::sexbnan: ::sexbnan: ::sexbnan: 

Yea, thats the only way lol

I think that's the new official motto here.

Ben_Reilly wrote:I think that's the new official motto here.

Pitchforks and burning torches towards parliament it is then?

Excellent a load of silly lefties sacrificing their lives for nothing.

 :D 

PhilDidge wrote:Excellent a load of silly lefties sacrificing their lives for nothing.

 :D 

         

:D :D :D :D :D 

I'm still awaiting Didge's reply as to wether he thinks his posts either show understanding and support for the poorer classes, those On benefits , unemployed and low paid?

Would you say your posts are In support and/or understanding of the above categories Didge...please answer

Joy Division wrote:I'm still awaiting Didge's reply as to wether he thinks his posts either show understanding and support for the poorer classes, those On benefits , unemployed and low paid?

Would you say your posts are In support and/or understanding of the above categories Didge...please answer

Understanding you say, more than anything I understand the situation, I am stiil waiting for you to post where I think people should starve for example and am stillwaiting

Joy Division wrote:I'm still awaiting Didge's reply as to wether he thinks his posts either show understanding and support for the poorer classes, those On benefits , unemployed and low paid?

Would you say your posts are In support and/or understanding of the above categories Didge...please answer

You won't get it JD. He's conditioned and hotwired with the Tory central office messages.

Waste of time asking.

Coalition Irn, I support the Coalition polices

 :D 

More fool you, cap doffer.

Sassy wrote:More fool you, cap doffer.

Don't forget forelock tugger.

  

Bet it's not his forelock he tugs lol

Joy Division wrote:

PhilDidge wrote:


But the fact is the lower paid people are now better off under the coalition than they were under Labour, so that just does not hold true what you are saying, does it Joy.

Anyway, have to go, so have a nice evening Joy!

It's never always paid to work on low pay under this government. And it's only now the government are addressing the 10£k tax level bracket...

Under previous Tory governments , low paid people got nothing to help them,surviving on as little as £2-3 an hour, with tax on top...

Only a Labour government have the working people the NMW and tax credits, people were left to theor own deep vices with no help under previous Tory governments Didge or Dodge??( questions) ...

Weet dreams btw mate!  

hi joy

that's not true though

i was put on benefits after hubby died and just recently went and signed on for jsa as i wanted to get back into work. well, i actually found a job very quickly. it's very low paid, but despite the fact that i have to pay full rent et al, i get tax credits as well and have to say i am much better off working than not working and that's a fact.

i also just feel better about life in general. people may consider tory policies harsh and unfeeling and some of them may well be but in contrast i think labour looks after people a bit too much and encouraged people indirectly to be victims and to accept excuses about what can't be done rather than focussing on what can be done.

So Geli, what about the disabled who are having to pay bedroom tax for the bedroom that their partner sleeps in, because they can't sleep in the same room because of equipment and the disability. Just the first thing that springs to mind.

Sassy wrote:So Geli, what about the disabled who are having to pay bedroom tax for the bedroom that their partner sleeps in, because they can't sleep in the same room because of equipment and the disability.   Just the first thing that springs to mind.

I believe that would come under this category,,,, ''people may consider tory policies harsh and unfeeling and some of them may well be''

I think the genuinely disabled should not be penalised in any way but i was specifically replying though to joy's comment about working