Halal - Kosher Slaughter

Didge wrote:The above reasoning is absurd.

Accomadating food is far removed from have duel laws.

One does not effect anyone, because its like anyone else who has a preference on food, as already seen we have non-religious people who have different food preferneces based on their beliefs, whether that be Vegitarian or Vegan. This choice does not harm anyone.


choice...yes...

places obliged to provide that choice...NO

remember that idiocy(i think it was mentioned here) about that work place having demands made on it to provide two sets of microwaves and fridges??? to placte the Muslims??? stuff that....



The other is having laws that conflict and cannot effect the well being and very much clash with equality

Hence you have no point, that one is of no danger or effect on anyone, the other is.

Didge wrote:Because you are saying so

You know for a fact your argument is weak here victor, where I am happy to accomadate food which does not effect anyone, but where I would fundementally draw the line to duel laws.

They can effect lives, hence the massive difference

Its not pandering to feeed your guests at home what their preference is and children at school are guests to that shcool.
Its called accomadating.

Lord Foul wrote:

Didge wrote:Because you are saying so

You know for a fact your argument is weak here victor, where I am happy to accomadate food which does not effect anyone, but where I would fundementally draw the line to duel laws.

They can effect lives, hence the massive difference

Its not pandering to feeed your guests at home what their preference is and children at school are guests to that shcool.
Its called accomadating.

have you considered that perhaps i'm fed up of accomodating a culture that permits rape etc, wants to eithe blow us up or convert (at gun point), that wants to dismantle our cuture in their favour...

whos behaviour in a quite considerable part is intrinsically inimical and incompatible?

sassy wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:

have you considered that perhaps i'm fed up of accomodating a culture that permits rape etc, wants to eithe blow us up or convert (at gun point), that wants to dismantle our cuture in their favour...

whos behaviour in a quite considerable part is intrinsically inimical and incompatible?

Funny that, because the inhabitants of quite a few countries could say that about the US and UK, they could add to it  torture and the complete destruction of their lives and infrastructure and more besides.

Didge wrote:Well you live in a Christian country, where that faiths permits Herem, rape, slaves etc. The only difference is many are not literal believers
Its a good thing we are a secular country Victor
So how many Muslims in this country do the above?
The majority do not, so are you going to chastise the majority because of the minority?
Where do you want to draw the line?
Next Jewish children, because of what happens in Israel?

Lord Foul wrote:

Didge wrote:Well you live in a Christian country, where that faiths permits Herem, rape, slaves etc. The only difference is many are not literal believers
Its a good thing we are a secular country Victor
So how many Muslims in this country do the above?
The majority do not, so are you going to chastise the majority because of the minority?
Where do you want to draw the line?
Next Jewish children, because of what happens in Israel?

you swapped sides again didge...??

I'm not suggesting "chastising" anyone...except wrong doers

what I am suggesting is the entirely reasonable premise that if they want (for wahtever reason) to come here   then they leave their culture behind and adopt ours...If they DONT want to do that its simple....go somewhere else

Didge wrote:Because you are saying so

You know for a fact your argument is weak here victor, where I am happy to accomadate food which does not effect anyone, but where I would fundementally draw the line to duel laws.

They can effect lives, hence the massive difference

Its not pandering to feeed your guests at home what their preference is and children at school are guests to that shcool.
Its called accomadating.

Lord Foul wrote:

Didge wrote:Because you are saying so

You know for a fact your argument is weak here victor, where I am happy to accomadate food which does not effect anyone, but where I would fundementally draw the line to duel laws.

They can effect lives, hence the massive difference

Its not pandering to feeed your guests at home what their preference is and children at school are guests to that shcool.
Its called accomadating.

YOU might, but the powers that be clearly dont agree with you, having allowed sharia wills into law...which are discriminatory to women...

so obvioulsy those powers would not shrink from full blown sharia courst if enough noise was made....

Lord Foul wrote:

Didge wrote:Because you are saying so

You know for a fact your argument is weak here victor, where I am happy to accomadate food which does not effect anyone, but where I would fundementally draw the line to duel laws.

They can effect lives, hence the massive difference

Its not pandering to feeed your guests at home what their preference is and children at school are guests to that shcool.
Its called accomadating.

YOU might, but the powers that be clearly dont agree with you, having allowed sharia wills into law...which are discriminatory to women...

so obvioulsy those powers would not shrink from full blown sharia courst if enough noise was made....

Didge wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:

you swapped sides again didge...??

I'm not suggesting "chastising" anyone...except wrong doers

what I am suggesting is the entirely reasonable premise that if they want (for wahtever reason) to come here   then they leave their culture behind and adopt ours...If they DONT want to do that its simple....go somewhere else

I have not swapped sides at all, just because your argument is poor and we both know that it is does not mean my views have changed.
I agree entirely with your view in regards to those coming here not integrating but many Muslims do. A substancial amount to do not and they are problematic, and should not be here because they do want to impose Islam, they are salafist, hardline Muslims. But I do not thing we should chatise those who do integrate on what they eat.

let me try to explain to a "progressive"    the simple difference between "chastise" and "not have to oblige"

I'm not saying they shouldnt be allowed it....but I AM saying that there should be NO obligation on anybody (real or corporate) to "provide"...If they want thier kids to eat it then they should send em with a halal packed lunch...simples
that employer I spoke of should not even have been put in the situation of it even being suggested that duplicate equipment should be provided...He correctly provides ONE set...if the "special diet " brigade want another ...THEY should provide and maintain it...simples...

AND THE default should ALWAYS be "British"



You do realise there is progressive Muslims trying to bring Islam into the 21st century and they should have both yours and mine support

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Ben_Reilly wrote:Do you agree that eating halal without realizing it would turn you Muzzie?

Do you agree that UK food retailers should be limited in their offerings by bigots?

Do you agree that everyone, no matter where they live, should have religious freedom?

I will comment later.

Ben_Reilly wrote:Do you agree that eating halal without realizing it would turn you Muzzie?

as opposed of course to " deliberately not labeling because some non muzzues might not want it"?

Do you agree that UK food retailers should be limited in their offerings by bigots?

as opposed to being forced...in some cases to be limited to halal only ....and certainly in public bodies being obliged to provide both..with the subsequent increases in costs?

Do you agree that everyone, no matter where they live, should have religious freedom?

as in following the teachings of stone aged camel jockeys, to include justified rape pillage murder persecution of minorities (like gays) etc

just remember BEN...despite the pleadings of those supposed moderates who claim that "those" bits were only for "that" time...Their books says quite specifically otherwise

they says that it is "FOR all time"

which leads to something of an insoluble paradox doesnt it????

I will comment later.