God Save The Queen.

by Major Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:58 pm

In your opinions should England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales all sing
'God Save The Queen' as their national anthem of sing anything they individually choose as a nation instead?

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:01 pm

I actually prefer Land of hope and Glory, though God save the Queen is good, just preference to the former.
Each have their own anthem anyway, which is fine by me, though none of them are as good as God save the Queen or land of hope and glory

by Ben Reilly Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:04 pm

Fantastic idea, Stormee!

jocolor

by Major Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:14 pm

I used to see the 'Proms' and the finale with 'Land Of Hope & Glory' was really rousing.

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:47 pm

God save the Queen is an utter dirge, Land of Hope and Glory is xenaphobic. It's about time we have something as good as Scotland and Wales:

However, the one I think really gets you blood pounding is La Marseillaise

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:51 pm

And that is why Sassy is anti Royal and fundemenatlly against our British culture.

Put it up for the vote, because I doubt you will have many English on here agree with you.

I mean now she is dishing one of our greatest Composers

Edward Elgar, who every here is played at the last noght of the Proms, talk about as being anti British as you can get

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_Hope_and_Glory

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:55 pm

Oh jeez, he's off on one again. God Save the Queen will stay as the UK national anthem, the Welsh and Scotland have their own for sports events and it's being discussed whether the English should have one too. Rolling Eyes

What a silly little attack dog you are.

MPs back calls for English national anthem

MPs have given initial support to the idea of England adopting an official national anthem.
God Save the Queen, the national anthem for the UK as a whole, is currently used for England during most sporting events.
However, Chesterfield MP Toby Perkins believes England needs its own anthem and presented his case in the House of Commons as a ten minute rule motion.
His English National Anthem Bill was adopted by the House.
The idea will be debated again at a second reading on 4 March.
The bill would bestow a responsibility on the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport to hold a consultation across the UK, and Mr Perkins suggested there could even be an "X Factor style programme" to select a song.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-35296296

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:57 pm

I am more interested why you are bashing one of our greatest composers that many go to unbelievable lenghs just to at the last night of the Proms singing along to Land of Hope and Glory.
It just shows how little patriotism there is in you sassy

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:57 pm

by Major Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:58 pm

sassy wrote:God save the Queen is an utter dirge, Land of Hope and Glory is xenaphobic. It's about time we have something as good as Scotland and Wales:

However, the one I think really gets you blood pounding is La Marseillaise

Why is it xenophobic? Sassy

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:01 pm

Nothing better than that

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:03 pm

BTW, the Pomp and Circumstance March is a wonderful piece of music.

The lyrics by A C Benson belong to a different time, when England was colonising the world:

Land of hope and glory, mother of the free,
How shall we extol thee, who are born of thee?
Wider still and wider shall thy bounds be set.
God, who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet.
God, who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet.
..............
Land of hope and glory, mother of the free,
How shall we extol thee, who are born of thee?
Wider still and wider shall thy bounds be set.
God, who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet.
God, who made thee mighty, make thee mightier yet.

by Ben Reilly Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:04 pm

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:05 pm

So it was written at a time of Empire, so blinking what, its not xenophobic in any shape of forum, you are jsut being absurd.

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:10 pm

Mind you anything got to be better than the American national anthem

O say can you see, Sleep

by the blah blah light,
What so boringly we blah blah at the Sleep

,
Whose bloomers and underpants gave us a perilous fright
O’er the Sleep

we watch’d were bored already?

by nicko Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:19 pm

Home of the brave? Land of the free?

I don't think so.

by Victorismyhero Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:23 pm

typical lefty MP...cant find anything useful to occupy his 10 mins ....

so like the left ALWAYS do, he introduces a bill thats just "fiddling" with things...

by Victorismyhero Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:24 pm

still, I suppose at least its harmless

by Ben Reilly Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:28 pm

nicko wrote:Home of the brave? Land of the free?

I don't think so.

Of course not, it's the land of the free and the home of the brave -- not the home of the brave and the land of the free Razz

by veya_victaous Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:19 pm

nicko wrote:Home of the brave? Land of the free?

I don't think so.

Home the Slave, land of Greed

God Save The Queen. Enhanced-buzz-29439-1319467356-33

by Ben Reilly Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:22 pm

veya_victaous wrote:
nicko wrote:Home of the brave? Land of the free?

I don't think so.

Home the Slave, land of Greed

by Fuzzy Zack Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:31 pm

2 words: Bohemian Rhapsody!!

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:33 pm

Fuzzy Zack wrote:2 words: Bohemian Rhapsody!!

Okay I am impressed as it certainly is an anthem and a classic

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:33 pm

Fuzzy Zack wrote:2 words: Bohemian Rhapsody!!

It wouldn't be the same with different words, and it would have to have different words, but I do agree about the musical composition.

by veya_victaous Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:37 pm

Ben_Reilly wrote:
nicko wrote:Home of the brave? Land of the free?

I don't think so.

Of course not, it's the land of the free and the home of the brave -- not the home of the brave and the land of the free

when it comes to Honor there is no room for U Razz

by Fuzzy Zack Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:37 pm

sassy wrote:
Fuzzy Zack wrote:2 words: Bohemian Rhapsody!!

It wouldn't be the same with different words, and it would have to have different words, but I do agree about the musical composition.

Sure you'll to change the words to include England's green hills and our values of fair play, etc.

But leave the "Bismi'Allah". Smile

by Fuzzy Zack Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:38 pm

Didge wrote:
Fuzzy Zack wrote:2 words: Bohemian Rhapsody!!

Okay I am impressed as it certainly is an anthem and a classic

Imagine singing that during the World Cup.

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:39 pm

Fuzzy Zack wrote:
sassy wrote:

It wouldn't be the same with different words, and it would have to have different words, but I do agree about the musical composition.

Sure you'll to change the words to include England's green hills and our values of fair play, etc.

But leave the "Bismi'Allah".

And don't forget the Alluha Akbar lol!

by Irn Bru Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:44 pm

Surely the Welsh would object to Land of Hope and Glory being played wouldn't they?

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:45 pm

This should be the yank Anthem

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:48 pm

Irn Bru wrote:Surely the Welsh would object to Land of Hope and Glory being played wouldn't they?

Quite, Elgar being Welsh and all.

by Irn Bru Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:50 pm

How about 'Always Look on the Bright Side'

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:51 pm

Welsh?

Edward Elgar was born in the small village of Lower Broadheath, outside Worcester, England. His father, William Henry Elgar (1821–1906), was raised in Dover and had been apprenticed to a London music publisher. In 1841 William moved to Worcester, where he worked as a piano tuner and set up a shop selling sheet music and musical instruments.^[1] In 1848 he married Ann Greening (1822–1902), daughter of a farm worker.^[2] Edward was the fourth of their seven children

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:53 pm

By adoption:

A Memorial Plaque to Sir Edward Elgar located in the Village Gardens near to the Gerwn Waterfall. It is known that Sir Edward visited Llangrannog in 1901, and allegedly after listening to a Choir on the Beach, gave him inspiration to write some of his music.

Below is an extract from a book written about Elgar, by an unknown author

(In August 1901 the head of the school where Elgar taught violin in Malvern,
a Miss Rosa Burley, took a house in Llangrannog and invited Elgar to come
and stay with her. Elgar had been rather depressed and so accepted the
invitation.
It was impossible for Elgar to stay in the same house as Miss Burley as she
was accompanied by various members of her family so she arranged for him to
stay in a neighbouring cottage and have his meals with her.

Quote "The house stood on the edge of the shore, next door to the inn, which
was probably the 'Pentre Arms'. The pub is still there and used to have a
house next door which was rented for summer visitors. The house itself is
now part of the pub." Unquote.

Elgar was really delighted with the place enjoying the sea, the scenery and
the food.

Quote "One day whilst out walking on the sea shore, the sound of distant
singing reached him from a group of people on a hillside across the bay. No
melodic line could be identified at that distance, but there was a frequent
drop of a third which Elgar thought typical of Welsh music.
This idea was to remain with him and he appeared to have a Welsh Overture in
mind, indicated by the suggested scoring of the 'Welsh' melody in his sketch
book, which is also inscribed 'Ynis Llochtryn' (sic). Later, however the
idea was to be used as the second subject in his 'Introduction and Allegro
for String Orchestra.' The first performance of this piece was given at the
Queen's Hall on March 8 1905. Elgar wrote the performance notes himself and
states;

' Some three years ago in Cardiganshire, I thought of writing a brilliant
piece for string orchestra. On the cliff between blue sea and blue sky,
thinking out my theme, there came up to me the sound of singing. The songs
were too far away to reach me distinctly, but one point common to all was
impressed upon me, and led me to think, perhaps wrongly, that it was a real
Welsh idiom - I mean the fall of a third. ')

With acknowledgment to Wendy Jenkins for sending us this information
God Save The Queen. Commun3

Click on the Web Links below to further information on Sir Edward Elgar Life and Music

The Elgar Society and The Elgar Foundation

Elgar Museum

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:55 pm

Sir Edward William Elgar, 1st Baronet OM GCVO (2 June 1857 – 23 February 1934) was an English composer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Elgar

by Irn Bru Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:57 pm

It just won't do for the cricket.

by Guest Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:59 pm

Irn Bru wrote:It just won't do for the cricket.

Lol, but they don't tend to get too musical at cricket!

by Irn Bru Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:32 am

how about Flower of England? a few words changed here or there and it would be perfect. Laughing

by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:42 am

Irn Bru wrote:how about Flower of England? a few words changed here or there and it would be perfect.

How about this one updated a bit lol

by Guest Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:46 am

Here's the lyrics:

Grown in one land alone
Where proud winds have blown
There’s not a flower born of the shower
Braver than England’s own
Though gales of winter blow
Piercing hail and snow
Shining she stays bright as in days of yore
Old England’s pride still blossoms
Fresh on England’s shore

Rose of England thou shall fade not here
Proud and bright from growing year to year
Red shall thy petals be as rich wine untold
Shared by thy warriors who served thee of old
Rose of England breathing England’s air
Flower of chivalry beyond compare
While hand and heart endure to cherish thy prime
Thou shall blossom to the end of time

Rose of England breathing England’s air
Flower of liberty beyond compare
While hand and heart endure to cherish thy prime
Thou shall blossom to the end of time

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