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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:53 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
sassy wrote:Well, you have didge to play with again Zack lol

Can you show where the poster Victor is advocating aparthied?

You do realise that Apartheid was a system based on discrmination of race?

Errr, you seem a little confused, I never said Victor was advocating apartheid.

And of course I know what apartheid is. The Hman Sciences Research Council in South Africa did a detailed international study on it. You can read it here:

https://www.soas.ac.uk/lawpeacemideast/publications/file60532.pdf

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:58 pm

Not confused at all.
You jumped in on a post where an accusation to aparteid was claimed.
Of which no evidence has been presented.
Its impossible for Israel to be an apartheid state.
For one it has more rights than for any ethnic or religious group than its neighbours.
Two, section C of the West bank as of the Oslo accords was agreed to be run by Israel until the future formation of Palestine. The rest of the West Bank is run by Fatah.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank_Areas_in_the_Oslo_II_Accord

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:01 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Not confused at all.
You jumped in on a post where an accusation to aparteid was claimed.
Of which no evidence has been presented.
Its impossible for Israel to be an apartheid state.
For one it has more rights than for any ethnic or religious group than its neighbours.
Two, section C of the West bank as of the Oslo accords was agreed to be run by Israel until the future formation of Palestine. The rest of the West Bank is run by Fatah.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank_Areas_in_the_Oslo_II_Accord

No I didn't, I spoke to Zack.  Keeping your cool didn't last long did it Didge?

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:04 pm

So basically you have no comprehension also of Apartheid.

Thanks for clearly up and it seems neither does the poster Zack, which I think he should take back his poor accusation which he has failed to back up.

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:05 pm

Good Lord, you couldn't even post in comprehensible english for one day.

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:06 pm

Lord?

No need to elevate me when I have no such title.
As to English, it has a capital, so best you actually learn the language as it seems your grammar is appalling.

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:27 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:So basically you have no comprehension also of Apartheid.

Thanks for clearly up and it seems neither does the poster Zack, which I think he should take back his poor accusation which he has failed to back up.

You obviously don't think that the South Africans have any idea about apartheid, as they are the ones that wrote the report.  Once again, only Didge knows. 

PS, the fact that you tried to make out that the word 'Lord' was referring to you, once again shows the extent of your egotism

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:39 pm

sassy wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:So basically you have no comprehension also of Apartheid.

Thanks for clearly up and it seems neither does the poster Zack, which I think he should take back his poor accusation which he has failed to back up.

You obviously don't think that the South Africans have any idea about apartheid, as they are the ones that wrote the report.  Once again, only Didge knows. 

PS, the fact that you tried to make out that the word 'Lord' was referring to you, once again shows the extent of your egotism

So is this how you debate, you take the word of others but cannot reason your arguments.
I can show South Africans that disagree that its Apartheid.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/I-know-what-apartheid-was-and-Israel-is-not-apartheid-says-S-African-parliament-member-413101

What does that prove?
That bascially you have no idea yourself and just take the word of others.
Again does Israel laws provide equality to all its citizens?
Yes
Problems with other nations is not aparthied but a conflict that has gone on for decades.
Israel does not Govern the West Bank, except area C as agreed by the Oslo agreement.
So its absolutely illogical to claim Israel is an Apartheid state to territory it does not govern

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:47 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
sassy wrote:

You obviously don't think that the South Africans have any idea about apartheid, as they are the ones that wrote the report.  Once again, only Didge knows. 

PS, the fact that you tried to make out that the word 'Lord' was referring to you, once again shows the extent of your egotism

So is this how you debate, you take the word of others but cannot reason your arguments.
I can show South Africans that disagree that its Apartheid.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/I-know-what-apartheid-was-and-Israel-is-not-apartheid-says-S-African-parliament-member-413101

What does that prove?
That bascially you have no idea yourself and just take the word of others.
Again does Israel laws provide equality to all its citizens?
Yes
Problems with other nations is not aparthied but a conflict that has gone on for decades.
Israel does not Govern the West Bank, except area C as agreed by the Oslo agreement.
So its absolutely illogical to claim Israel is an Apartheid state to territory it does not govern


OFGS!  I said the report, which you disagreed with, was done by the South Africans, who know more about it than you ever will.  You might think you are infallible Didge, but you're not.

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:49 pm

sassy wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:

So is this how you debate, you take the word of others but cannot reason your arguments.
I can show South Africans that disagree that its Apartheid.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/I-know-what-apartheid-was-and-Israel-is-not-apartheid-says-S-African-parliament-member-413101

What does that prove?
That bascially you have no idea yourself and just take the word of others.
Again does Israel laws provide equality to all its citizens?
Yes
Problems with other nations is not aparthied but a conflict that has gone on for decades.
Israel does not Govern the West Bank, except area C as agreed by the Oslo agreement.
So its absolutely illogical to claim Israel is an Apartheid state to territory it does not govern


OFGS!  I said the report, which you disagreed with, was done by the South Africans, who know more about it than you ever will.  You might think you are infallible Didge, but you're not.

I just showed South Africans who disagree, which means we have to debate the points.
You though seem to have more excuses than Tony Blair and George  Bush.
If you have no idea, then just say which is very apparant you have not the first clue what you are talking about.

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:54 pm

Yawn.  You got back to the same arrogant shit so quickly.

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:57 pm

sassy wrote:Yawn.  You got back to the same arrogant shit so quickly.

You seem very rude, its not my fault you have little knowledge of what you post.
I suggest you study the topics you claim to know.

This article will help you understand why you are wrong about Israel.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/22/israel-injustices-not-apartheid-state

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:02 pm

Didge, during the day your little flag on the map is in the same position it always is during the day, now you have gone home, it's in the same position it always is at night.  Do stop being a plonker.

And I'm not wrong about Israel, and neither are the HSRC of South Africa

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:08 pm

So again more excuses, claiming you are right and yet cannot reason your points. As seen it is one of the poorest claims and is done for one sole purpose to deligitimize Israel.
Now who else in history has tried to deligitimize Jews?
I will give you a clue.
They were a German nationalistic party.

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Post by Ben Reilly Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:42 pm

Nowadays when I think of an anti-immigration right-whinger like Robinson, I immediately picture a fussy baby devil, complete with diaper, pointing and making a fussy-face! Smile
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Post by Irn Bru Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:07 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:So again more excuses, claiming you are right and yet cannot reason your points. As seen it is one of the poorest claims and is done for one sole purpose to deligitimize Israel.
Now who else in history has tried to deligitimize Jews?
I will give you a clue.
They were a German nationalistic party.

And I'll give you a clue to events that go way further back than the Nazi's.

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This Day in Jewish History Richard I Is Crowned and London's Jews Are Massacred

When King Richard the Lionheart was crowned, Jewish dignitaries who brought him gifts were stripped, whipped and banished from the court. This snowballed into a large-scale pogrom.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/this-day-in-jewish-history/.premium-1.545064

Not the wisest choice for your handle is it given your views.
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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:10 pm

Irn Bru wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:So again more excuses, claiming you are right and yet cannot reason your points. As seen it is one of the poorest claims and is done for one sole purpose to deligitimize Israel.
Now who else in history has tried to deligitimize Jews?
I will give you a clue.
They were a German nationalistic party.

And I'll give you a clue to events that go way further back than the Nazi's.

Richard the Lionheart

This Day in Jewish History Richard I Is Crowned and London's Jews Are Massacred

When King Richard the Lionheart was crowned, Jewish dignitaries who brought him gifts were stripped, whipped and banished from the court. This snowballed into a large-scale pogrom.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/this-day-in-jewish-history/.premium-1.545064

Not the wisest choice for your handle is it given your views.

Eh?

Yes I am well aware of the attrocities carried out by the English against the Jews and by Richard.
Its just a username, but are you so desperate after sassy has embarressed herself you come running again
How does that in anyway detract from the Nazi's deligitimizing Jews, as this attenmpt is the same to make an unfounded claim of aparthied on Israel?




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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:16 pm

Only you would think that it was me that should be embarrassed, poor old Didge.

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Post by Irn Bru Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:18 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Irn Bru wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:So again more excuses, claiming you are right and yet cannot reason your points. As seen it is one of the poorest claims and is done for one sole purpose to deligitimize Israel.
Now who else in history has tried to deligitimize Jews?
I will give you a clue.
They were a German nationalistic party.

And I'll give you a clue to events that go way further back than the Nazi's.

Richard the Lionheart

This Day in Jewish History Richard I Is Crowned and London's Jews Are Massacred

When King Richard the Lionheart was crowned, Jewish dignitaries who brought him gifts were stripped, whipped and banished from the court. This snowballed into a large-scale pogrom.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/this-day-in-jewish-history/.premium-1.545064

Not the wisest choice for your handle is it given your views.

Eh?

Yes I am well aware of the attrocities carried out by the English against the Jews and by Richard.
Its just a username, but are you so desperate after sassy has embarressed herself you come running again
How does that in anyway detract from the Nazi's deligitimizing Jews, as this attenmpt is the same to make an unfounded claim of aparthied on Israel?




You asked this question.....

Now who else in history has tried to deligitimize Jews?

I just answered your question.

I come running again you say!!!! What's that all about?

Still not the wisest choice for your user name given your views lol

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:18 pm

Wow what an insult sassy, it took you ten minutes just to come up with that.

Dear me lol

It just proves how you and Irn are so hateful.

When I left I send an email to the admin team saying I have no hard feelins towards anyone.

Its just a forum, but you two regressive lefties for one, can only debate by trying to deligitimize people. Neither of you can reason your points

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:20 pm

Irn Bru wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:

Eh?

Yes I am well aware of the attrocities carried out by the English against the Jews and by Richard.
Its just a username, but are you so desperate after sassy has embarressed herself you come running again
How does that in anyway detract from the Nazi's deligitimizing Jews, as this attenmpt is the same to make an unfounded claim of aparthied on Israel?




You asked this question.....

Now who else in history has tried to deligitimize Jews?

I just answered your question.

I come running again you say!!!! What's that all about?

Still not the wisest choice for your user name given your views lol


So you are saying that Richard the Lionheart started up a German nationalistic party now?

Maybe I should have chosen Edward the first.

He would have been a better choice of kings when debating you.

Laughing

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:22 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Wow what an insult sassy, it took you ten minutes just to come up with that.

Dear me lol

It just proves how you and Irn are so hateful.

When I left I send an email to the admin team saying I have no hard feelins towards anyone.

Its just a forum, but you two regressive lefties for one, can only debate by trying to deligitimize people. Neither of you can reason your points

What on earth are you on about now.  And I have other things to do in between posting on here, like making OH's packed lunch, doing the washing up and phoning my Dad.

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:23 pm

Also Richard classed the Jews as infidels, which is a religious daft Christian reason for his crimes.
That is at is not deligitimizing Jews as racially subhuman as the Nazis did.
Its based on Christian ideology.

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Post by Irn Bru Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:24 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Irn Bru wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:

Eh?

Yes I am well aware of the attrocities carried out by the English against the Jews and by Richard.
Its just a username, but are you so desperate after sassy has embarressed herself you come running again
How does that in anyway detract from the Nazi's deligitimizing Jews, as this attenmpt is the same to make an unfounded claim of aparthied on Israel?




You asked this question.....

Now who else in history has tried to deligitimize Jews?

I just answered your question.

I come running again you say!!!! What's that all about?

Still not the wisest choice for your user name given your views lol


So you are saying that Richard the Lionheart started up a German nationalistic party now?

Maybe I should have chosen Edward the first.

He would have been a better choice of kings when debating you.

Laughing

Never suggested that at all. All I did was answer your question with an earlier example and you must admit you did ask for one. Now your getting all upset about it.

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:25 pm

Irn Bru wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:

So you are saying that Richard the Lionheart started up a German nationalistic party now?

Maybe I should have chosen Edward the first.

He would have been a better choice of kings when debating you.

Laughing

Never suggested that at all. All I did was answer your question with an earlier example and you must admit you did ask for one. Now your getting all upset about it.


Your answer was wrong

Not upset either Irn,I just find it hilarious the pair of you need back up to debate me all the time.

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Post by Irn Bru Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:29 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Irn Bru wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:

So you are saying that Richard the Lionheart started up a German nationalistic party now?

Maybe I should have chosen Edward the first.

He would have been a better choice of kings when debating you.

Laughing

Never suggested that at all. All I did was answer your question with an earlier example and you must admit you did ask for one. Now your getting all upset about it.


Your answer was wrong

Not upset either Irn,I just find it hilarious the pair of you need back up to debate me all the time.

You mean there was no massacre of the Jews then?

The views you are getting from me are mine and mine alone. Others can say what they want.

I certainly don't need anyone to back me up in a debate with you.....you're easy.

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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:31 pm

Irn Bru wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:

Your answer was wrong

Not upset either Irn,I just find it hilarious the pair of you need back up to debate me all the time.

You mean there was no massacre of the Jews then?

The views you are getting from me are mine and mine alone. Others can say what they want.

I certainly don't need anyone to back me up in a debate with you.....you're easy.



Oh there was murder based on religious ideology.

Never claimed otheriwse.

I asked what German nationalistic group deligitimized Jews.

You said Richard the Lionheart, who spoke French and saw himself more as French than English, so we can put this crime down to the French.


Laughing

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Post by Irn Bru Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:36 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Irn Bru wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:

Your answer was wrong

Not upset either Irn,I just find it hilarious the pair of you need back up to debate me all the time.

You mean there was no massacre of the Jews then?

The views you are getting from me are mine and mine alone. Others can say what they want.

I certainly don't need anyone to back me up in a debate with you.....you're easy.



Oh there was murder based on religious ideology.

Never claimed otheriwse.

I asked what German nationalistic group deligitimized Jews.

You said Richard the Lionheart, who spoke French and saw himself more as French than English, so we can put this crime down to the French.


Laughing

No, you didn't ask that at all and now you are just making things up. You asked....

Now who else in history has tried to deligitimize Jews?

There's your exact question and that's the one I answered with the example i gave you.

Oh dear lol
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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:38 pm

Your answer again was wrong, for the second time.

Oh dear indeed

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Post by Irn Bru Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:40 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Your answer again was wrong, for the second time.

Oh dear indeed

You clearly lied about the question you asked - the one that I answered.

So there was no massacre of the Jews then?



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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:42 pm

Again you are wrong, I never claimed there was no murder of Jews.
So why did Richard on march 22nd 1190 renewed a general charter in favor of the Jews that was first issued by Henry II?

Is that deligitimizing them?

Do you want to bow out before I make you look even more stupid?

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Post by Irn Bru Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:47 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Again you are wrong, I never claimed there was no murder of Jews.
So why did Richard on march 22nd 1190 renewed a general charter in favor of the Jews that was first issued by Henry II?

Is that deligitimizing them?

Do you want to bow out  before I make you look even more stupid?

I know you didn't so where was my answer wrong?

I think it's you that is looking stupid with the bare-faced lie that you told about the question you actually asked.

Renewing the charter came a bit late in the day for all the Jews that were massacred didn't it?
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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:49 pm

My question was on who had deligitimized the Jews.
You claimed Richard the Lionheart
That was idiotic.
So again.

So why did Richard on march 22nd 1190 renewed a general charter in favor of the Jews that was first issued by Henry II?

Also why also did he in 1194 decree that all debts of slain Jews are to be taken into the kings hands?


Like I say, it really helps if you know your history.

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Post by Irn Bru Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:57 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:My question was on who had deligitimized the Jews.
You claimed Richard the Lionheart
That was idiotic.
So again.

So why did Richard on march 22nd 1190 renewed a general charter in favor of the Jews that was first issued by Henry II?

Also why also did he in 1194 decree that all debts of slain Jews are to be taken into the kings hands?


Like I say, it really helps if you know your history.

Ah, you have realised that you have been caught out lying and you have now reverted back to the question you actually asked. That's a start.

I gave you an example which was Richard the Lionheart and it's a fact that the massacres happened. His later actions came a bit too late for the many Jews that were massacred didn't it.

Bit like sorry about that Laughing


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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:00 pm

Irn Bru wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:My question was on who had deligitimized the Jews.
You claimed Richard the Lionheart
That was idiotic.
So again.

So why did Richard on march 22nd 1190 renewed a general charter in favor of the Jews that was first issued by Henry II?

Also why also did he in 1194 decree that all debts of slain Jews are to be taken into the kings hands?


Like I say, it really helps if you know your history.

Ah, you have realised that you have been caught out lying and you have now reverted back to the question you actually asked. That's a start.

I gave you an example which was Richard the Lionheart and it's a fact that the massacres happened. His later actions came a bit too late for the many Jews that were massacred didn't it.

Bit like sorry about that Laughing



Sorry but your bullshit will not save you here.
A person who deligitimizes a people would do so throughout his reign, to the point of killing them all.
This is not the case and in fact at first when he became King he merely turned a blind eye to the killings, mainly as he needed as many men for the crusade. Like I say the question was on who had deligitimized the Jews.
Richard by his actions certainly at first was poor to act, but he later did act to protect the Jews.
So your answer was like most of your posts, based on you trying to deligitimize me and you ending up with scrambled eggs on your face.

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Post by Irn Bru Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:06 pm

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Irn Bru wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:My question was on who had deligitimized the Jews.
You claimed Richard the Lionheart
That was idiotic.
So again.

So why did Richard on march 22nd 1190 renewed a general charter in favor of the Jews that was first issued by Henry II?

Also why also did he in 1194 decree that all debts of slain Jews are to be taken into the kings hands?


Like I say, it really helps if you know your history.

Ah, you have realised that you have been caught out lying and you have now reverted back to the question you actually asked. That's a start.

I gave you an example which was Richard the Lionheart and it's a fact that the massacres happened. His later actions came a bit too late for the many Jews that were massacred didn't it.

Bit like sorry about that Laughing



Sorry but your bullshit will not save you here.
A person who deligitimizes a people would do so throughout his reign, to the point of killing them all.
This is not the case and in fact at first when he became King he merely turned a blind eye to the killings, mainly as he needed as many men for the crusade. Like I say the question was on who had deligitimized the Jews.
Richard by his actions certainly at first was poor to act, but he later did act to protect the Jews.
So your answer was like most of your posts, based on you trying to deligitimize me and you ending up with scrambled eggs on your face.

From the article...

Richard's coronation was bad news for the Jews of England, who were barred from the ceremony, as were women. Jewish dignitaries who dared to defy the decree and showed up bearing gifts for the new monarch were stripped, whipped and banished from the court.

As they fled, rumors spread in London that the new king detested "infidels" and meant to kill them all, and a pogrom ensued. The Jews of London were plundered and murdered, their houses were burned down and some were baptized against their will. The mayhem that night spread to wealthy Christian households too, but nobody was ever held accountable.

As reports of the slaughter circulated, attacks on Jews spread to other English cities: some months later, on March 16, 1190, at the urging of their rabbi Yomtov of Joigney, some 500 Jews in York killed their families and selves rather than be forcibly converted or massacred by mobs. And indeed a handful of survivors surrendered to crusaders but were killed.



That's not bullshit. It happened.



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Post by Guest Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:08 pm

Oh my

1189 September 3, RICHARD THE LIONHEARTED (England)

Was crowned at Westminster. During Richard's coronation (from which Jews and women, seen as possible sorcerers, were banned), Baldwin, the archbishop of Canterbury, convinced Richard not to accept presents from Jewish dignitaries but to turn them out of the palace. The crowds took this to mean that the king favored persecution of the Jews; a pogrom against the Jews in London took place the same day and the following day. Richard was reluctant to begin his reign by overtly protecting the Jews and therefore did not punish the rioters too severely - which encouraged more riots. The rioting soon spread to such commercial centers as Norwich, (Kings) Lynn, Stamford, Lincoln, Bury St Edmunds, and York, as well as to smaller communities throughout the land. In London, 30 Jews were killed including Rabbi Jacob of Orleans, a pupil of Rabbenu Tam.

- See more at: http://www.jewishhistory.org.il/history.php?startyear=1180&endyear=1189#sthash.b2SH3Wlb.dpuf


Is that Richard deligitimizing the Jews?
By turning them away?
Like I say it helps if you know real history.
You have just embarressed yourself again

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Post by Irn Bru Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:54 pm

Turnig them away Laughing

Richard's coronation was bad news for the Jews of England, who were barred from the ceremony, as were women. Jewish dignitaries who dared to defy the decree and showed up bearing gifts for the new monarch were stripped, whipped and banished from the court.

He dsid nothing to stop it and never held anyone accountable for it.

You're struggling and it showed when you resorted to telling a blatant lie showing you are not to be trusted. You then went scuttling off to an internet search engine to see what yoy could come up with long after these events but it was all too late. And anyway you should have just asked me Laughing

Shame about all the Jews that were massacred under his rule. At least the Nazi's got punished for their crimes - no such thing happened for Jewish people that perished on the day of his coronation and beyond into the country.
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:01 am

Please crawl away you are embarressing yourself Irn.
Its hilarious and you still seem to fail to even grasp what deligitimize means.
You take that regreassive left wing rag as your evidence which is comical and not any historians
Listen its not my fault you are a tad thick and useless on history.
At no point did Richard order any murder of Jews and in fact became so angered he did actually do something about the problem.


190 March 22, ENGLAND  Tommy Robinson - Page 2 Camera
King Richard (the Lionhearted), angered by the riots and the loss of crown property (since the Jews were seen as serfs to the crown), renewed a general charter in favor of the Jews that was first issued by Henry II. His chancellor, Longchamp, instituted heavy fines against the Pudsey and Percy families, who had been involved in the 1190 pogrom at York. This enriched the treasury and hurt his political opponents at the same time. Three people who were also accused of destroying Christian property were executed.
- See more at: http://www.jewishhistory.org.il/history.php?startyear=1190&endyear=1199#sthash.CGsslMxA.dpuf


Now for everyones sake get a tissue and wipe that egg off your face you


lol

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Post by Irn Bru Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:09 am

The article just before yours

1190 March 16, YORK (England)

On the Sabbath eve before Passover (Shabbat Hagadol), a group made up of clergymen, barons indebted to the Jews, and Crusaders waiting to follow Richard set Jewish houses on fire and stole all their valuables. The Jews under Josce, a prominent Jew of York, and their rabbi, Yom Tov of Joigny (a contemporary of Rabbenu Tam and author of the Yom Kippur Hymn Omnam Ken), fled to the castle. Richard Malebys (a noble who owed large sums to Jewish moneylenders) and other indebted nobles commanded the attackers. For 6 days the Jews held out. A stone thrown from the tower killed a monk, who came each morning to celebrate mass, and inflamed the crowd. Facing the choice of baptism or death, most chose death, committing suicide after destroying their belongings. According to tradition, Josce killed his wife and two children, and was in turn killed by the rabbi who was the last to die. The few who remained alive opened the gate and requested baptism, only to be massacred anyway. Over 150 Jews died, the sheriff of York dismissed, and the bonds of debts to Jews which were kept for safekeeping in York Minster were burned on the floor of the church.


1190 March 22, ENGLAND

King Richard (the Lionhearted), angered by the riots and the loss of crown property (since the Jews were seen as serfs to the crown), renewed a general charter in favor of the Jews that was first issued by Henry II. His chancellor, Longchamp, instituted heavy fines against the Pudsey and Percy families, who had been involved in the 1190 pogrom at York. This enriched the treasury and hurt his political opponents at the same time. Three people who were also accused of destroying Christian property were executed.

Laughing

You lied mate. You lied.
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:12 am

Never lied at all it just shows your desperation as where did I omit anything?

You see now Irn claims Richard the Lionheart was on a par with the Nazi's in diligitimizing them.
Its not only comical its hilarious watching this poor boy struggle.
So again where did at any point Richard deligitimize the Jews?

Poor wee boy ha ha ha

In your own time please?

Also show anywhere that I lied in any of my posts.


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Post by Irn Bru Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:21 am

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Never lied at all it just shows your desperation as where did I omit anything?

You see now Irn claims Richard the Lionheart was on a par with the Nazi's in diligitimizing them.
Its not only comical its hilarious watching this poor boy struggle.
So again where did at any point Richard deligitimize the Jews?

Poor wee boy ha ha ha

In your own time please?

Also show anywhere that I lied in any of my posts.


Oh here come the personal insults something that you always resort to. Never mind here....

When you said I asked what German nationalistic group deligitimized Jews. you lied because you did not.

And I'm not wee. I'm 6' 2" and would probably tower over you and just pat you on the head and tell you to run along. Laughing
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:24 am

Hilarious so can Irn back up his bullshit?

Lets try again

Never lied at all it just shows your desperation as where did I omit anything?

You see now Irn claims Richard the Lionheart was on a par with the Nazi's in diligitimizing them.
Its not only comical its hilarious watching this poor boy struggle.
So again where did at any point Richard deligitimize the Jews?

Poor wee boy ha ha ha

In your own time please?

Also show anywhere that I lied in any of my posts.

I said I will give you a clue, so you omit the important part and you claimed Richard the Lionheart deligitimized the Jews, which your failed to prove.

So again I made you look a complete idiot and that is just normal these days


Laughing

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Post by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:26 am

Richard The Lionheart wrote:So again more excuses, claiming you are right and yet cannot reason your points. As seen it is one of the poorest claims and is done for one sole purpose to deligitimize Israel.
Now who else in history has tried to deligitimize Jews?
I will give you a clue.
They were a German nationalistic party.

So show how I lied Irn?


ha ha ha

Poor wee boy


Laughing

You claimed Richard the Lionheart.

Which as seen was idiotic


Laughing

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Post by Irn Bru Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:30 am

Richard The Lionheart wrote:Hilarious so can Irn back up his bullshit?

Lets try again

Never lied at all it just shows your desperation as where did I omit anything?

You see now Irn claims Richard the Lionheart was on a par with the Nazi's in diligitimizing them.
Its not only comical its hilarious watching this poor boy struggle.
So again where did at any point Richard deligitimize the Jews?

Poor wee boy ha ha ha

In your own time please?

Also show anywhere that I lied in any of my posts.

I said I will give you a clue, so you omit the important part and you claimed Richard the Lionheart deligitimized the Jews, which your failed to prove.

So again I made you look a complete idiot and that is just normal these days


Laughing

I have already showed you where you lied by repeating your statement about the question.

Do you dispute that?

You asked a question I gave you an answer and you are really upset by it. That's a shame but you did ask Laughing
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:33 am

Irn Bru wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:So again more excuses, claiming you are right and yet cannot reason your points. As seen it is one of the poorest claims and is done for one sole purpose to deligitimize Israel.
Now who else in history has tried to deligitimize Jews?
I will give you a clue.
They were a German nationalistic party.

And I'll give you a clue to events that go way further back than the Nazi's.

Richard the Lionheart

This Day in Jewish History Richard I Is Crowned and London's Jews Are Massacred

When King Richard the Lionheart was crowned, Jewish dignitaries who brought him gifts were stripped, whipped and banished from the court. This snowballed into a large-scale pogrom.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/this-day-in-jewish-history/.premium-1.545064

Not the wisest choice for your handle is it given your views.


Now the above is utterly wrong and idiotic for all to see and all can see I did not lie

As seen Irn falls back to his time honorued defensse of desperation to try to deligitimize what I said by falsifying a lie claiming I lied.

One moment


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Post by Irn Bru Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:38 am

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:So again more excuses, claiming you are right and yet cannot reason your points. As seen it is one of the poorest claims and is done for one sole purpose to deligitimize Israel.
Now who else in history has tried to deligitimize Jews?
I will give you a clue.
They were a German nationalistic party.

So show how I lied Irn?


ha ha ha

Poor wee boy


Laughing

You claimed Richard the Lionheart.

Which as seen was idiotic


Laughing

You said you asked what German nationalistic group deligitimized Jews. You did not - you lied.

And now you have even resorted to replying to your own posts Laughing

Here, I'm patting you on the head.
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Post by Guest Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:41 am

Richard The Lionheart wrote:So again more excuses, claiming you are right and yet cannot reason your points. As seen it is one of the poorest claims and is done for one sole purpose to deligitimize Israel.
Now who else in history has tried to deligitimize Jews?
I will give you a clue.
They were a German nationalistic party
.

Now all can see how desperate Irn is to try to deligitimze
He uses the tactics of the Nazis lol

As seen its evident I was asking which German nationalistic party by saying I will give you a clue.

It can only be one group

The Nazis


Doh

Poor wee child, must have been dropped on his head as a child it would explain loads

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Post by Irn Bru Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:52 am

Richard The Lionheart wrote:
Richard The Lionheart wrote:So again more excuses, claiming you are right and yet cannot reason your points. As seen it is one of the poorest claims and is done for one sole purpose to deligitimize Israel.
Now who else in history has tried to deligitimize Jews?
I will give you a clue.
They were a German nationalistic party
.

Now all can see how desperate Irn is to try to deligitimze
He uses the tactics of the Nazis lol

As seen its evident I was asking which German nationalistic party by saying I will give you a clue.

It can only be one group

The Nazis


Doh

Poor wee child, must have been dropped on his head as a child it would explain loads

No, you asked Now who else in history has tried to deligitimize Jews?

You then twisted it and in doing so you blatantly lied.

You have already admitted that Richard carried out terrible atrocities against the Jews (you said it) and now you are trying to make out that he was actualy a fairly decent chap about them all along Laughing

You lied and now you're struggling.


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