Violence against Muslims Rises

sassy wrote:And people who talk in real life as they do on here, are part of the reason the hate crimes against Muslims has increased so dramatically in this country.

sassy wrote:Oh go and join the EDL and get it out of your system.

Didge wrote:

sassy wrote:And people who talk in real life as they do on here, are part of the reason the hate crimes against Muslims has increased so dramatically in this country.

Utter gibberish.
What people have called for any discrmination or violence to Muslims on here?
You see it is actually the likes of you sassy with your apologist nonsense that get people angry
Any violence or discrmination to Muslims is wrong, full stop and to equate that with people stating they want to see more done from Muslims top combat the narative that allows for Muslims to fall easily prey to such extremism, is not hate and shows how far removed from reality you are.
The hate here directed here is from the same people who are normally racist idiots, who use the act of terrorism to be complete idiots themselves.

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

https://youtu.be/HpZ3w_QMmaA

Raggamuffin wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

https://youtu.be/HpZ3w_QMmaA

That pair should concentrate on the problems in the US really. There are issues there re anti-Muslim hate crimes.

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Didge wrote:


Utter gibberish.
What people have called for any discrmination or violence to Muslims on here?
You see it is actually the likes of you sassy with your apologist nonsense that get people angry
Any violence or discrmination to Muslims is wrong, full stop and to equate that with people stating they want to see more done from Muslims top combat the narative that allows for Muslims to fall easily prey to such extremism, is not hate and shows how far removed from reality you are.
The hate here directed here is from the same people who are normally racist idiots, who use the act of terrorism to be complete idiots themselves.

What you don't get is that most people (like Victor has admitted in the other thread) cannot distinguish between a good Muslim and a bad one. So he distrusts all.

As this demonstrates, that attitude can spiral out of control:



https://youtu.be/txgJJ1TdR4g

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Didge wrote:


Utter gibberish.
What people have called for any discrmination or violence to Muslims on here?
You see it is actually the likes of you sassy with your apologist nonsense that get people angry
Any violence or discrmination to Muslims is wrong, full stop and to equate that with people stating they want to see more done from Muslims top combat the narative that allows for Muslims to fall easily prey to such extremism, is not hate and shows how far removed from reality you are.
The hate here directed here is from the same people who are normally racist idiots, who use the act of terrorism to be complete idiots themselves.

What you don't get is that most people (like Victor has admitted in the other thread) cannot distinguish between a good Muslim and a bad one. So he distrusts all.


and you expect any different? why

as I keep saying...there is NO immediately obvious difference between Muslim 1.0 and Muslim 2.4 jelly bean

even one who visually appears to be Muslim 2.4 jelly bean may actually Muslim 1.0 in disguise


so WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST...perhaps you think I'm stupid enough to "trust blindly"...erm no....thats why I am at the top of the food chain old bean.... I dont give trust easily


As this demonstrates, that attitude can spiral out of control:

so now you are suggesting that if someone doesnt give unconditional, blind trust he/she is a ...what?



https://youtu.be/txgJJ1TdR4g

Lord Foul wrote:nope, but some I'm more inclined to believe than others, moreover most other demographic groups do not contain an element which especially intends me harm (other than the usual theives and psychos...both of which I can handle...theives in general I can secure against, and one for one man to man attackers...well i aint totally decrepit yet, and I DO carry an assortment of nasty little surprises...oh nothing STRICTY illegal, but nasty non the less....) along with my (rightly ) famed "big staff"

these buggers however are too cowardly to go "man to man" and are a different matter altogether...

AND they hide within this demographic group...who...as fuzzy says we cant tell one from the other

and as I have pointed out times many...they can lie without compunction ...and disimulate happily forever....

moreover i have trusted them 4 times (financially) and been ripped off every time....

NO other group has done this  

I can ONLY assume that this is because there is an element (who's members I cannot discern from the bulk) who consider that its ok to "cheat the kuffir" hence my only protection is to not deal in that market any more....

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:nope, but some I'm more inclined to believe than others, moreover most other demographic groups do not contain an element which especially intends me harm (other than the usual theives and psychos...both of which I can handle...theives in general I can secure against, and one for one man to man attackers...well i aint totally decrepit yet, and I DO carry an assortment of nasty little surprises...oh nothing STRICTY illegal, but nasty non the less....) along with my (rightly ) famed "big staff"

these buggers however are too cowardly to go "man to man" and are a different matter altogether...

AND they hide within this demographic group...who...as fuzzy says we cant tell one from the other

and as I have pointed out times many...they can lie without compunction ...and disimulate happily forever....

moreover i have trusted them 4 times (financially) and been ripped off every time....

NO other group has done this  

I can ONLY assume that this is because there is an element (who's members I cannot discern from the bulk) who consider that its ok to "cheat the kuffir" hence my only protection is to not deal in that market any more....

EVERY other group has done this. There's not one thing you've pointed out here that would be unique to Muslim criminals in any way.

Shit, criminals hide within innocent demographic groups by default, unless they're turning themselves over to authorities.

Lord Foul wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:nope, but some I'm more inclined to believe than others, moreover most other demographic groups do not contain an element which especially intends me harm (other than the usual theives and psychos...both of which I can handle...theives in general I can secure against, and one for one man to man attackers...well i aint totally decrepit yet, and I DO carry an assortment of nasty little surprises...oh nothing STRICTY illegal, but nasty non the less....) along with my (rightly ) famed "big staff"

these buggers however are too cowardly to go "man to man" and are a different matter altogether...

AND they hide within this demographic group...who...as fuzzy says we cant tell one from the other

and as I have pointed out times many...they can lie without compunction ...and disimulate happily forever....

moreover i have trusted them 4 times (financially) and been ripped off every time....

NO other group has done this  

I can ONLY assume that this is because there is an element (who's members I cannot discern from the bulk) who consider that its ok to "cheat the kuffir" hence my only protection is to not deal in that market any more....

EVERY other group has done this. There's not one thing you've pointed out here that would be unique to Muslim criminals in any way.

Shit, criminals hide within innocent demographic groups by default, unless they're turning themselves over to authorities.

true...and in your country a significant proportion of your crazies are your own

Our society is generally different, admittedly the IRA were as bad in many ways (which as didge will pointb out resulted in the irish in general being treated badly)

it is ever thus....

but it IS a good axiom that if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck, then one has cause to suspect it may indeed be a duck...
moreover terrorists are not "mere " criminals and the "lefty" agenda to play them down to get them seen as such is disingenious and in itself criminal

either way I really dont give a shit.....

I dont trust em, wont trust em and its up to them to change my perception ...

As I have said before...I wouldnt harm any of them (as long as they dont try to harm me) but neither will I aid them

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:


true...and in your country a significant proportion of your crazies are your own

Our society is generally different, admittedly the IRA were as bad in many ways (which as didge will pointb out resulted in the irish in general being treated badly)

it is ever thus....

but it IS a good axiom that if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck, then one has cause to suspect it may indeed be a duck...
moreover terrorists are not "mere " criminals and the "lefty" agenda to play them down to get them seen as such is disingenious and in itself criminal

either way I really dont give a shit.....

I dont trust em, wont trust em and its up to them to change my perception ...

As I have said before...I wouldnt harm any of them (as long as they dont try to harm me) but neither will I aid them

Yeah, true. Your "points" don't hold any water. And it's ludicrous to say that a terrorist is anything beyond a criminal -- we should treat them the same way we treat murderers for the KKK or any other hate organization.

funny how you lump them in with the KKK etc...I hate to point this out ...but aren't THEY terrorists too? all you did there was agree with me...terrorists are a "special branch of criminal"

Funny you bring up the IRA -- I imagine a lot of Irish people feel they don't and won't trust any Englishman, given historical facts

and you expect that singulary intense piece of insight (for you ) to surprise me??? I wouldnt blame them one bit...

You "won't aid them"? Anybody could be a Muslim. I actually have a hard time imagining you helping anyone given your misanthropy.

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:


true...and in your country a significant proportion of your crazies are your own

Our society is generally different, admittedly the IRA were as bad in many ways (which as didge will pointb out resulted in the irish in general being treated badly)

it is ever thus....

but it IS a good axiom that if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck, then one has cause to suspect it may indeed be a duck...
moreover terrorists are not "mere " criminals and the "lefty" agenda to play them down to get them seen as such is disingenious and in itself criminal

either way I really dont give a shit.....

I dont trust em, wont trust em and its up to them to change my perception ...

As I have said before...I wouldnt harm any of them (as long as they dont try to harm me) but neither will I aid them

Yeah, true. Your "points" don't hold any water. And it's ludicrous to say that a terrorist is anything beyond a criminal -- we should treat them the same way we treat murderers for the KKK or any other hate organization.

Funny you bring up the IRA -- I imagine a lot of Irish people feel they don't and won't trust any Englishman, given historical facts

You "won't aid them"? Anybody could be a Muslim. I actually have a hard time imagining you helping anyone given your misanthropy.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Lord Foul wrote:


true...and in your country a significant proportion of your crazies are your own

Our society is generally different, admittedly the IRA were as bad in many ways (which as didge will pointb out resulted in the irish in general being treated badly)

it is ever thus....

but it IS a good axiom that if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck, then one has cause to suspect it may indeed be a duck...
moreover terrorists are not "mere " criminals and the "lefty" agenda to play them down to get them seen as such is disingenious and in itself criminal

either way I really dont give a shit.....

I dont trust em, wont trust em and its up to them to change my perception ...

As I have said before...I wouldnt harm any of them (as long as they dont try to harm me) but neither will I aid them

Yeah, true. Your "points" don't hold any water. And it's ludicrous to say that a terrorist is anything beyond a criminal -- we should treat them the same way we treat murderers for the KKK or any other hate organization.

Funny you bring up the IRA -- I imagine a lot of Irish people feel they don't and won't trust any Englishman, given historical facts

You "won't aid them"? Anybody could be a Muslim. I actually have a hard time imagining you helping anyone given your misanthropy.

Then they should stay in Ireland and not come here praising the IRA.

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Didge wrote:

sassy wrote:And people who talk in real life as they do on here, are part of the reason the hate crimes against Muslims has increased so dramatically in this country.

Utter gibberish.
What people have called for any discrmination or violence to Muslims on here?
You see it is actually the likes of you sassy with your apologist nonsense that get people angry
Any violence or discrmination to Muslims is wrong, full stop and to equate that with people stating they want to see more done from Muslims top combat the narative that allows for Muslims to fall easily prey to such extremism, is not hate and shows how far removed from reality you are.
The hate here directed here is from the same people who are normally racist idiots, who use the act of terrorism to be complete idiots themselves.

What you don't get is that most people (like Victor has admitted in the other thread) cannot distinguish between a good Muslim and a bad one. So he distrusts all.

As this demonstrates, that attitude can spiral out of control:



https://youtu.be/txgJJ1TdR4g

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Then they should stay in Ireland and not come here praising the IRA.

Kind of like how the English should have stayed in England ... anyway, this is a pointless discussion now.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Then they should stay in Ireland and not come here praising the IRA.

Kind of like how the English should have stayed in England ... anyway, this is a pointless discussion now.

I am in England, and I don't want IRA supporters here. Hopefully, you'll stay away too.

veya_victaous wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Didge wrote:

sassy wrote:And people who talk in real life as they do on here, are part of the reason the hate crimes against Muslims has increased so dramatically in this country.

Utter gibberish.
What people have called for any discrmination or violence to Muslims on here?
You see it is actually the likes of you sassy with your apologist nonsense that get people angry
Any violence or discrmination to Muslims is wrong, full stop and to equate that with people stating they want to see more done from Muslims top combat the narative that allows for Muslims to fall easily prey to such extremism, is not hate and shows how far removed from reality you are.
The hate here directed here is from the same people who are normally racist idiots, who use the act of terrorism to be complete idiots themselves.

What you don't get is that most people (like Victor has admitted in the other thread) cannot distinguish between a good Muslim and a bad one. So he distrusts all.

As this demonstrates, that attitude can spiral out of control:



https://youtu.be/txgJJ1TdR4g

Yes that is the problem and then they try and offer solutions without the capacity to 'define the enemy'

Most Muslims are not the enemy, they hate ISIS and the like too.
The problem is they are, Rightfully, Not too fond of ignorant twits that say they are the Same as ISIS.

I ask Victor and the others.... How would you like to be told you are basically KKK? or that You should actually be treated like Nazis since we cant tell the difference between a Nationalistic Brit and A Neo Nazi?

Ben_Reilly wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I am in England, and I don't want IRA supporters here. Hopefully, you'll stay away too.

You don't have to worry about me ... you have enough to worry about, it seems

Ben_Reilly wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:


Yes that is the problem and then they try and offer solutions without the capacity to 'define the enemy'

Most Muslims are not the enemy, they hate ISIS and the like too.
The problem is they are, Rightfully, Not too fond of ignorant twits that say they are the Same as ISIS.

I ask Victor and the others.... How would you like to be told you are basically KKK? or that You should actually be treated like Nazis since we cant tell the difference between a Nationalistic Brit and A Neo Nazi?

This is going to fall on deaf ears because these people don't care about fairness, they care (only) about themselves and imagine they're in great danger.

Didge wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:


Yes that is the problem and then they try and offer solutions without the capacity to 'define the enemy'

Most Muslims are not the enemy, they hate ISIS and the like too.
The problem is they are, Rightfully, Not too fond of ignorant twits that say they are the Same as ISIS.

I ask Victor and the others.... How would you like to be told you are basically KKK? or that You should actually be treated like Nazis since we cant tell the difference between a Nationalistic Brit and A Neo Nazi?

This is going to fall on deaf ears because these people don't care about fairness, they care (only) about themselves and imagine they're in great danger.

Fuck me, fairness did you say?
If anywhere in the world where there is no fairness is in the majority of Muslim majority countries when many are sufferig because the simple fact is there are many Muslim that hold regressive views that discrminate against many groups of people. No Muslim should suffer discrimination or abuse, but the sad reality is we are not talking about a small minority anymore. We are talking about tens of millions of Muslims that share this ideology and no amount of ignoring this problem is going to go away. Being as it effects many Muslims as well as now our own free societies.
Yes please spare a thought for the fairness that little to none have living in such societies

veya_victaous wrote:

Didge wrote:


Fuck me, fairness did you say?
If anywhere in the world where there is no fairness is in the majority of Muslim majority countries when many are sufferig because the simple fact is there are many Muslim that hold regressive views that discrminate against many groups of people. No Muslim should suffer discrimination or abuse, but the sad reality is we are not talking about a small minority anymore. We are talking about tens of millions of Muslims that share this ideology and no amount of ignoring this problem is going to go away. Being as it effects many Muslims as well as now our own free societies.
Yes please spare a thought for the fairness that little to none have living in such societies

They can MOVE HERE

You cant make the WHOLE world to your liking you have to accept Societies can be Shithouse. OR you risk making a society as shithouse as theirs (which seem to be happening in the UK)


WHAT We can DO is offer a Home for those that want to join us.

veya_victaous wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

What you don't get is that most people (like Victor has admitted in the other thread) cannot distinguish between a good Muslim and a bad one. So he distrusts all.

As this demonstrates, that attitude can spiral out of control:



https://youtu.be/txgJJ1TdR4g

Yes that is the problem and then they try and offer solutions without the capacity to 'define the enemy'

Most Muslims are not the enemy, they hate ISIS and the like too.
The problem is they are, Rightfully, Not too fond of ignorant twits that say they are the Same as ISIS.

and therin lies the great lie doesnt it Veya...the lefty tactic of smearing the opposition with made up lies....the obfustication of truth

I have NOT said "they" (the Muslim collective) are the same as ISIS...ever, nor have I anywhere implied it

what I have said is...I cant tell the difference between a "good" Muslim an outright bad Muslim, or one that is hedging his bets and likely to support (albeit quietly) the activities that could likely harm "us"....so whilst I most certainly would not deliberately inflict harm upon any of them (unless offered first) until this matter is resolved , I'm quite content to keep em "at arms length"

even the most modernised Muslims are not supposed to initiate greetings with a person of the book even (heaven knows what they do about non Muslims "not of the book")

so not exactly the most friendly of ways....

however that aside.....

I ask Victor and the others.... How would you like to be told you are basically KKK? or that You should actually be treated like Nazis since we cant tell the difference between a Nationalistic Brit and A Neo Nazi?

Ben_Reilly wrote:So in other words, you get to know someone and then you can tell whether they're a good person or a bad person or somewhere in between. But, you don't give everyone the same chance to be a good person, as you already said you don't and won't trust Muslims. And you did say that about all of them.

Didge wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

What you don't get is that most people (like Victor has admitted in the other thread) cannot distinguish between a good Muslim and a bad one. So he distrusts all.

As this demonstrates, that attitude can spiral out of control:



https://youtu.be/txgJJ1TdR4g

Again yet more gibberish

He is not saying that he wants all Muslims out or saying to direct violence against them
He has genuine concerns which you fail badly at making him feel any level of confidence from yourself a supposed non-extremist Muslim.
The fact you cannot even begin to see how it concerns people shows again how far removed you are from reality.

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Didge wrote:



Again yet more gibberish

He is not saying that he wants all Muslims out or saying to direct violence against them
He has genuine concerns which you fail badly at making him feel any level of confidence from yourself a supposed non-extremist Muslim.
The fact you cannot even begin to see how it concerns people shows again how far removed you are from reality.

He said he mistrusts all Muslims. Try to keep up.

Lord Foul wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

What you don't get is that most people (like Victor has admitted in the other thread) cannot distinguish between a good Muslim and a bad one. So he distrusts all.


and you expect any different?   why

as I keep saying...there is NO immediately obvious difference between Muslim 1.0 and Muslim 2.4 jelly bean

even one who visually appears to be Muslim 2.4 jelly bean may actually Muslim 1.0 in disguise


so WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST...perhaps you think I'm stupid enough to "trust blindly"...erm no....thats why I am at the top of the food chain old bean.... I dont give trust easily


As this demonstrates, that attitude can spiral out of control:

so now you are suggesting that if someone doesnt give unconditional, blind trust he/she is a ...what?



https://youtu.be/txgJJ1TdR4g

veya_victaous wrote:as ben said
read your own words Victor you did say All Muslims could not be trusted

And My point is IF you are incapable, Leave it to people that can.... Like fools that say all Asians look the same... it is just exposure that allows you easily tell the difference.
I find it much easier to spot the radical Muslim in a group or normal Muslim, than to see the difference between nationalistic brit and a nazi sympathizer...  
Even good Brits live in a nation seemingly brimming with bigots....
you are relying on Stormee having a visible Swastika tattoo
by the same logic you only need to fear Muslims with ISIS flags 


I am not saying you are But see how defensive you got?
Muslims are people expect them to behave like people first and foremost.
No one likes to be grouped with the people they hate or think are evil.... which is why all Abrahamist must be lumped together

veya_victaous wrote:as ben said
read your own words Victor you did say All Muslims could not be trusted

And My point is IF you are incapable, Leave it to people that can
you mean lefty pillocks that want 3.6 million a year to come here and wreck the palace???

.... Like fools that say all Asians look the same... it is just exposure that allows you easily tell the difference.
I find it much easier to spot the radical Muslim in a group or normal Muslim,

I'm sure you do veya...I'm sure you do

than to see the difference between nationalistic brit and a nazi sympathizer...  
Even good Brits live in a nation seemingly brimming with bigots....
you are relying on Stormee having a visible Swastika tattoo
nope, like most of his sort stormee is a fool, but at least he's an honest fool..his mouth gives him away the instant he opens it....and he declares himself openly, HE doesnt shake hands with the right and stab with the left




by the same logic you only need to fear Muslims with ISIS flags 


I am not saying you are But see how defensive you got?
Muslims are people expect them to behave like people first and foremost.
No one likes to be grouped with the people they hate or think are evil.... which is why all Abrahamist must be lumped together

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Didge wrote:


Utter gibberish.
What people have called for any discrmination or violence to Muslims on here?
You see it is actually the likes of you sassy with your apologist nonsense that get people angry
Any violence or discrmination to Muslims is wrong, full stop and to equate that with people stating they want to see more done from Muslims top combat the narative that allows for Muslims to fall easily prey to such extremism, is not hate and shows how far removed from reality you are.
The hate here directed here is from the same people who are normally racist idiots, who use the act of terrorism to be complete idiots themselves.

What you don't get is that most people (like Victor has admitted in the other thread) cannot distinguish between a good Muslim and a bad one. So he distrusts all.

As this demonstrates, that attitude can spiral out of control:



https://youtu.be/txgJJ1TdR4g

Tommy Monk wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Didge wrote:


Utter gibberish.
What people have called for any discrmination or violence to Muslims on here?
You see it is actually the likes of you sassy with your apologist nonsense that get people angry
Any violence or discrmination to Muslims is wrong, full stop and to equate that with people stating they want to see more done from Muslims top combat the narative that allows for Muslims to fall easily prey to such extremism, is not hate and shows how far removed from reality you are.
The hate here directed here is from the same people who are normally racist idiots, who use the act of terrorism to be complete idiots themselves.

What you don't get is that most people (like Victor has admitted in the other thread) cannot distinguish between a good Muslim and a bad one. So he distrusts all.

As this demonstrates, that attitude can spiral out of control:



https://youtu.be/txgJJ1TdR4g

Overall, levels of violent crime have risen, mostly so in other categories...
BULLSHIT

Maybe Zack should show us a more detailed breakdown of the violent crime statistics so we can see the true picture of what is going on and who is responsible...!?

• The Crime Survey for England and Wales continues to show steady declines in violent crime over the last 20 years. Between the 1995 and the 2013/14 surveys, the number of violent crime incidents has fallen from 3.8 million in 1995 to 1.3 million in 2013/14.
  
• Violent crime victimisation rates have fallen by more than half since peak levels of crime in the mid-1990s. In 1995 4.8% of adults aged 16 and over were a victim of violent crime in the previous year, compared with 1.8% in the 2013/14 survey.
  
• Homicide has also shown a general downward trend since 2002/03. The number of currently recorded homicides for 2013/14 (526) and 2011/12 (528) were the lowest since 1989 (521). The number of homicides in 2013/14 was equivalent to 9.2 offences per million population.
  

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/crime-stats/crime-statistics/focus-on-violent-crime-and-sexual-offences--2013-14/index.html

Lord Foul wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:as ben said
read your own words Victor you did say All Muslims could not be trusted

And My point is IF you are incapable, Leave it to people that can
you mean lefty pillocks that want 3.6 million a year to come here and wreck the palace???

You mean the Englishman with the brains of an Englishman 

.... Like fools that say all Asians look the same... it is just exposure that allows you easily tell the difference.
I find it much easier to spot the radical Muslim in a group or normal Muslim,

I'm sure you do veya...I'm sure you do    I do..... You all Seem about ready to Blow up Sikh center you have mistaken for a mosque. within a few minutes of conversation I can tell a secular Muslim.

than to see the difference between nationalistic brit and a nazi sympathizer...  
Even good Brits live in a nation seemingly brimming with bigots....
you are relying on Stormee having a visible Swastika tattoo
nope, like most of his sort stormee is a fool, but at least he's an honest fool..his mouth gives him away the instant he opens it....and he declares himself openly, HE doesnt shake hands with the right and stab with the left

Disagree Strongly
They are fakes, and keep their mouth shut when there is someone that will confront them.
This was actually pointed out to me years ago and this was in relation to some friends.
I see/hear less racism because they are smart enough to shut up around me
I verbally smack down the racist trying to build support for the Racist statement they want to make
So My opinion is often openly declared before they declare theirs, on some levels it is a warning.




by the same logic you only need to fear Muslims with ISIS flags 


I am not saying you are But see how defensive you got?
Muslims are people expect them to behave like people first and foremost.
No one likes to be grouped with the people they hate or think are evil.... which is why all Abrahamist must be lumped together

dunno why you stick your tongue out at me over that you antipodean nincompoop, cos it missed by a mile ??? 
Thats the Laughing/teasing Smilie
  that's the tongue out.

evil face laugh   Should probably be read as "Muhwahahhahahaha"{Thunder} 

Raggamuffin wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:as ben said
read your own words Victor you did say All Muslims could not be trusted

And My point is IF you are incapable, Leave it to people that can.... Like fools that say all Asians look the same... it is just exposure that allows you easily tell the difference.
I find it much easier to spot the radical Muslim in a group or normal Muslim, than to see the difference between nationalistic brit and a nazi sympathizer...  
Even good Brits live in a nation seemingly brimming with bigots....
you are relying on Stormee having a visible Swastika tattoo
by the same logic you only need to fear Muslims with ISIS flags 


I am not saying you are But see how defensive you got?
Muslims are people expect them to behave like people first and foremost.
No one likes to be grouped with the people they hate or think are evil.... which is why all Abrahamist must be lumped together

I bet you wouldn't have spotted Michael Adebolajo.

Didge wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Didge wrote:



Again yet more gibberish

He is not saying that he wants all Muslims out or saying to direct violence against them
He has genuine concerns which you fail badly at making him feel any level of confidence from yourself a supposed non-extremist Muslim.
The fact you cannot even begin to see how it concerns people shows again how far removed you are from reality.

He said he mistrusts all Muslims. Try to keep up.

Because he has a genuine valid concern

Do keep up

veya_victaous wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

I bet you wouldn't have spotted Michael Adebolajo.

to be fair UK authorities HAD spotted him, he had already been arrested for terrorism offenses in Kenya...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lee-rigby-report-mistakes-led-4695980
So either really bad example AS that is literally an example of intelligence/protective services failure due to bureaucracy...or worse... it is weird that both MI5 and Scotland yard that had followed him for years stopped just weeks before the attack.


But Anyway maybe if i had talked with him I would have gone "that guy is bad news."  You cant tell who is going to go the next step just like these teenage gunmen in the USA... But you can tell who is in 'danger of taking the next step' and there are plenty of reports that all those warnings were there and more for this guy