LBC's Nick Ferrari Tells Muslim Who Opposes British Foreign Policy To Leave The UK

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Nick Ferrari told a Muslim caller that if he does not agree with British foreign policy then he should "go some place else" during a heated discussion on Monday in the wake of the Paris attacks. Challenging Ferrari about comments he made regarding the Islamic State being a "Muslim problem", LBC caller Mahmoud, from Putney, said: "A lot of this is to do with British and European foreign policy.
"It's unpalatable for people like yourself, but that is the fact."

But the presenter firmly disagreed, telling Mahmoud that those who are opposed to the government's foreign policy should leave the country.Britain's foreign policy, particularly since the 9/11 attacks, has been under increased scrutiny in recent years. In 2003, two million people took to the streets of London to march against the Iraq War. France's air strikes in Raqqa, Syria, on Sunday night - two days after the Paris attacks - led to thousands tweeting #PrayForSyria. Speaking on LBC this morning, Ferrari said: "Many people are unhappy with aspects of the British government, it doesn't mean they decide to try and brainwash young people and have them...try and behead a soldier in Woolwich."

The 56-year-old presenter continued: "You have to accept that not your sect, but parts of the Muslim faith have to wake up and realise that this is the reality. 'You love life, we love death', I'll remind you of what Al Qaeda said." When Mahmoud referred to the Syrian air strikes carried out by Western nations, Ferrari interrupted: "If you don't like it, Sir, go some place else... If you don't like British government policy and the only way you see of dealing with it is to go around shooting people don't stay in this country."
Ferrari continued: "Maybe I don't like British government policy, it doesn't mean I start shooting people," adding: "You are saying 'oh well this is British foreign policy'."Nothing, no aspect of current British foreign policy, excuses what went on in Paris. Not one single aspect."Mahmoud lambasted Ferrari for his "racist" and "bigoted" comments.He added: "If you start bombing countries you are going to have this sort of problem on your own territory."Many people agreed with the caller from Putney, slamming the radio host for "promoting racist hatred" and "blaming" Muslims.


http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/16/lbc-presenter-nick-ferrari-Muslim-british-foreign-policy_n_8574388.html



The best way to describe the caller is simply this.

What a utter twat.

Sorry but he is saying we should not be joining a colaition of nations which includes Muslim nations to fight ISIS by bombing military targets?

We also have thousands tweeting pray for Syria in the  context of attacks on ISIS military targets?

WTF

I thought Muslims have made clear that ISIS are not Muslims and they are insulting Islam.

I mean what does he want to happen?

Nothing and that where already millions have been displaced, raped, murdered, children and women enslaved, just let this continue to happen?What moral compass do these people have, when they are basically defending against attacking an extremist group that does not care about or value life? This is what I was going on about this blame culture and how even worse people are defending against attacking an extremist group that are committing some of the worst crimes against humanity. Clearly they are being seen as Muslims and again people think that the extremists are justified to attack Paris etc, for the French trying to help rid the area of these monsters.

I condemn the comments to tell him to leave this country, but this just backs up again how peoples minds are being brainwashed to be the worst apologists for  the worst stain to fall onto humanity since the Nazi's.
Utterly unbelieveable, it would be like saying to not bomb the Nazi's and allow them to continue with the conquest of the world and the holocaust. It is this idiotic belief that is making out this is some crusade against Islam by Muslim preachers and yet in the same breath we have them claiming ISIS are not Muslims, yet then defending them and must think they clearly are.

So wrong on every level and it shows the influence religious leaders have on the minds of easily led people,

No didge, it is you that is walking straight into their trap
AGAIN like the west warmongers always do
No long term strategy, just aggression and bombs

you want to spin the merry go round again
And I am trying to get off it.

Sorry what trap.
ISIS have many people enslaved, raping them and killing them.
Your alternative seeks to continue to see them suffer and all because of Muslim sensitivities that we should not be on lands they think are religiously theirs. That is what it really boils down to and a view to them of transgression. They fail to grasp we are there to help countless Muslims, they just buy into a bullshit narative given to them all the time

So you want to help Recruit new soldiers for ISIS? They have said they want US solider in Syria and Iraq so they can get new photos and footage of western solider killing Muslims to feed their propaganda machine. ISIS are much stronger in media than military.


by your own admission they are bad and people will try and fight them.
So why should we increase the resentment the other people already have for us?
Because as much as we might say we're helping we do so at great cost of life too.

AND you are buying into the western bullshit narrative as much as they are buying the Islamic one. We the West do things in the name of the almighty dollar, we have waged wars (Vietnam etc) for the Economic Dogma as false as the religious dogma feeding this current conflict.

Are you a coward? You give every reason not to fight.
Would you just surrender and bow the knee?

nicko wrote:Are you a coward? You give every reason not to fight.
Would you just surrender and bow the knee?

Sounds like you want a crusade to me. Lol!

Maybe we can have wheelchair tanks.

sounds like fuzzy wants Isis unopposed and allowed to do their dirty work...

I guess we know what THAT makes him...

Fuzzmuck, who asked you to join in, fuck off.

nicko wrote:Are you a coward? You give every reason not to fight.
Would you just surrender and bow the knee?

Not to fight Islam .... YES
because we should not be fighting all of Islam

And Really this should be an execution not a fight. ISIS is nothing if it cant get support from other Islamic groups, which it wont ,if we don't put Johnny redneck on the ground to kill 'sand niggers'.

Professionals only! we do not need to put our own dumb ass brainwashed grunts on the ground to increase anti western sentiment. That is what ISIS want.

veya_victaous wrote:

nicko wrote:Are you a coward? You give every reason not to fight.
Would you just surrender and bow the knee?

Not to fight Islam .... YES
because we should not be fighting all of Islam

And Really this should be an execution not a fight. ISIS is nothing if it cant get support from other Islamic groups, which it wont ,if we don't put Johnny redneck on the ground to kill 'sand niggers'.

Professionals only! we do not need to put our own dumb ass brainwashed grunts on the ground to increase anti western sentiment. That is what ISIS want.

strangely perhaps to you...I agree....BUT neither should we of necessity be welcoming it here.....

veya_victaous wrote:So you want to help Recruit new soldiers for ISIS? They have said they want US solider in Syria and Iraq so they can get new photos and footage of western solider killing Muslims to feed their propaganda machine. ISIS are much stronger in media than military.


by your own admission they are bad and people will try and fight them.
So why should we increase the resentment the other people already have for us?
Because as much as we might say we're helping we do so at great cost of life too.

AND you are buying into the western bullshit narrative as much as they are buying the Islamic one. We the West do things in the name of the almighty dollar, we have waged wars (Vietnam etc) for the Economic Dogma as false as the religious dogma feeding this current conflict.

Poor argument, when again you miss the point that whether we attack or not they are recruiting Muslims through where many already believe wrongly the west is at war with Islam. If we do nothing even more will be easily swayed by the fact we are already involved ina  war with them, the point you cannot grasp. Retreating now just makes them believe terror works and the west can be held to ransom, which will actually make their recruitment easier to those Muslims already susceptible to extremism.

Again it is this poor narative that allows already a substancial amount of Muslims to easily be swayed into violence through not only aspects of the religion but because many already wrongly through fabricated naratives think the west is at war with islam. So there is two major problems here.
Frankly if your opposition to helping free people from supression is some ignorant belief of shitting your pants that some more people maybe recruited to them, then you place the value of those they enslave, rape and murder of less a value than they already are by ISIS. You do not shy away from doing what is right because of a fear that some more might be recruited to them and if that is the case, more will end up dying stupoidly in the process, so be it, you have to make your resolve to combat this bigger than theirs. All you do is end up furthering their cause bu conceeding to fear from which they promote. It takes taking on the situatiuon from two central problems, one the religion itself and rthe poor narative around it and second to take out those who do not care about any form of negotiationn who have no value for the sanctity of life.

You are buying into lets do nothing and allow people to suffer because you are too afraid to take risks, where the value of those oppressed far outweights your apologist attitude which basically is sentecing these people to suffering and oppression, which is from the school of :

Bro it is the other side of the planet
I have ZERO BUSINESS THERE
Same with you.

You are believing the Bullshit Western narrative that you have a right to tell them how to live and die

Muslims to easily be swayed into violence through not only aspects of the religion but because many already wrongly through fabricated naratives think the west is at war with islam.

So your solution is to Start a war with Islam Well that stops them falsely believing it IF WE ARE
Did you actually think your position through?

veya_victaous wrote:Bro it is the other side of the planet
I have ZERO BUSINESS THERE
Same with you.

You are believing the Bullshit Western narrative that you have a right to tell them how to live and die

Muslims to easily be swayed into violence through not only aspects of the religion but because many already wrongly through fabricated naratives think the west is at war with islam.

So your solution is to Start a war with Islam Well that stops them falsely believing it IF WE ARE
Did you actually think your position through?

Veya, it does not matter if it is on the other side of the world, as did that stop the US and Britain from combating an evil before that was systematically mudering people through genocide?
No, the point you keep missing Veya is that it has gone beyond now inaction, where we are already involved, where the allies of both Arab nations and the west have joined together to combat them and what is needed is for the Muslim world to tackle the narative of a false claim to a crusade against Islam which many Muslims believe no matter if extremist or non-extremist. Again if now we pull out our forces, that is a sign of weakness and again shows and makes believe the west bow down to terror and even worse we allow the fate of many people to be decided by a group that then knows it can even play off are weaknesses.

Where did I say start a war with Islam?
I never did, but it is many Muslims who believe this, I mean you only have to look at the narative that comes out of Iran, who on the one hand want to destroy ISIS but also gain supremacy in the Middle East, but they are the biggest propagandists and proponents of this narative. So why do you invent lies I never said? At every turn you are sacrificing those already under enslavement with ISIS, which you seal their fate by retreating is basically signing their death sentences ourselves. Its time you looked at what you really believe in when it coms to the injustices faced by humanity because we are one species and at the end of the day when we can do something we should do something.

If you think continuing to combat ISIS is starting a war with Islam you again play into the narative of ISIS and other Islamic extremist groups themselves. Its time the Islamic world called a Jihad against ISIS and actually stopped denying fundemntal doctrine in Islam which easily allows Muslims to follow their beliefs.
You never see Muslim religious leaders classify these extremists as blaspheming by commiting sin, ie murder in the name of Islam. its time religious leaders actually do something which makes and nullifies ISIS being seen as Muslims, but they fail to do so and only condemn acts. Using their own belief system to combat the issue and make them wrong in Islam itself will go a long way to combating the problem and produces doubt to those within their cause and those who might join their cause.

Right catch you later Veya

If you want he Islamic world to fight ISIS then Stay out of it and they will.
Jordan Almost did but the cheering of the USA made it politically difficult for them too. As the USA (the West) is still Not kind to the people of the Middle east and the average civilian doesn't want their nation to join with the USA (fair enough).

If you cant see that your suggestion WILL START A WAR WITH ISLAM then that proves EXACTLY why Westerners need to stay out. If you cant see how you made half of Islam hate you with that last post.

We can Kill ISIS without the Nazi Jackboot song and dance.
We could have killed them straight away, we could kill them when ever we chose too.
So All the rhetoric above that is just kicking Muslims, that we supposed to not be trying to start a war with.. You don't need to motivate Anyone to hate ISIS Not A SINGLE PERSON HAS SUGGESTED NOT TO KILL ISIS.
So it is you that is misrepresenting what other people are saying. Killing ISIS and the Crap you posted above is NOT IN ANY WAY RELATED. what you posted is a call for a full scale war against a bunch a dispossessed peasants. that is going to incite anger at the West. Because YOU DO NOT SAVE PEOPLE WITH BOMBS.

I would prefer they we raped and murdered by ISIS scumbags then Western Scumbags that you propose sending over on mass.. and before you say they are not, They ARE WHY the area is destabilized to the point ISIS took control in the first place. Our Grunts are TOO MORALLY bankrupt for this sort of operation.

veya_victaous wrote:If you want he Islamic world to fight ISIS then Stay out of it and they will.
Jordan Almost did but the cheering of the USA made it politically difficult for them too. As the USA (the West) is still Not kind to the people of the Middle east and the average civilian doesn't want their nation to join with the USA (fair enough).

If you cant see that your suggestion WILL START A WAR WITH ISLAM then that proves EXACTLY why Westerners need to stay out. If you cant see how you made half of Islam hate you with that last post.

We can Kill ISIS without the Nazi Jackboot song and dance.
We could have killed them straight away, we could kill them when ever we chose too.
So All the rhetoric above that is just kicking Muslims, that we supposed to not be trying to start a war with.. You don't need to motivate Anyone to hate ISIS Not A SINGLE PERSON HAS SUGGESTED NOT TO KILL ISIS.
So it is you that is misrepresenting what other people are saying. Killing ISIS and the Crap you posted above is NOT IN ANY WAY RELATED. what you posted is a call for a full scale war against a bunch a dispossessed peasants. that is going to incite anger at the West. Because YOU DO NOT SAVE PEOPLE WITH BOMBS.

I would prefer they we raped and murdered by ISIS scumbags then Western Scumbags that you propose sending over on mass.. and before you say they are not, They ARE WHY the area is destabilized to the point ISIS took control in the first place. Our Grunts are TOO MORALLY bankrupt for this sort of operation.

You are just making the same unfoundeing claims you did berfore condemning those under ISIS to certain suffering rape and death and all based off something that is already been happenning, war with ISIS and no war with Islam has occured or will occur. Then you eqquate westerners as scumbags who are trying to save humans from sufferings, as if that places them as bad as ISIS. It shows how removed you are from understanding anything that has been stated to you and if a war started because we were at war with an extremist group. Then there is something then fundementally wrong with Muslims and the belief Islam, that they were wage war in defense of such a group. Our troops are some of the best in the world and are way morally better at treating people than any Arab nations does when they are in war, showing again how far remove you are other understanding conflicts, the people who fight in them.
You mkake the worst apologist arguments with no thought for those who are under enslavement of ISIS where are helped has also been called upon to deal with them.

If the only reason is of a fear of a war with Islam, who is it to declare such a war?
There is nobody authorized and there is nobody who does speak for all Muslims, so again on every count your views are wrong and like I say, that if people did want to wage war against the west forthe west helping to save people from ISIS, then those Muslims would be the same as ISIS and thus back ISIS and their wrongs over anything else. So what ever way you look at this the poor fear based argument you make, condemns those under ISIS, makes a poor argument that no Muslim can declare a war of anfd also if any Muslim did go to war over the west attacking ISIS, would make that Muslim a suppoter and no better than ISIS. That makes even further the view ISIS are fundemnetally Islamic and the view they are not seperate from Islam at all. Your argument would mean associating ISIS fundementally with Islam, by trhe view looking to defeat them by the west by Muslims declaring a war of Islam against the west.. Its time you checked your moral compass Veya, because at every turn you are making excuses for ISIS over the need of helping those suffer under them all due to a misplaced fear you have, which ends up fundementally making ISIS be completely Islamic.

Veya is a weak kneed snivelling coward who would shit himself and crawl on bended knee if he was ever called to fight! A disgusting excuse for a man.

veya_victaous wrote:Bro it is the other side of the planet
I have ZERO BUSINESS THERE
Same with you.

You are believing the Bullshit Western narrative that you have a right to tell them how to live and die

Muslims to easily be swayed into violence through not only aspects of the religion but because many already wrongly through fabricated naratives think the west is at war with islam.

So your solution is to Start a war with Islam Well that stops them falsely believing it IF WE ARE
Did you actually think your position through?

More bullshit from Veya...!!!


You and others have repeatedly told us all how ISIS are a relatively small number of people who are terrorising and enforcing their control over the majority of population in areas where they are operating... so it is them who think they have the right to tell others how to live and die!!!


They are engaged in mass murdering and robbing of the local people and the raping of the women and girls!!!


This is totally barbaric and unacceptable behaviour and of course needs to be confronted so it can be stopped!!!


But you seem to be arguing that they should just be allowed to carry on...!?


What is wrong with you!!!???

veya_victaous wrote:

Great point. Ya got my greenie, veya,

nicko wrote:Veya is a weak kneed snivelling coward who would shit himself and crawl on bended knee if he was ever called to fight!  A disgusting excuse for a man.  

I don't think a man in a wheelchair should talk about crawling on bended knee.

Or someone might just tip you over. ;-) #friendlyAdvice

veya_victaous wrote:

Lol!

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

nicko wrote:Veya is a weak kneed snivelling coward who would shit himself and crawl on bended knee if he was ever called to fight!  A disgusting excuse for a man.  

I don't think a man in a wheelchair should talk about crawling on bended knee.

Or someone might just tip you over. ;-) #friendlyAdvice

Picking on the pensioner yet again.
Some day you too, might end up, through no fault of your own. Wheelchair bound and no matter what peoples views are or if poor, does not mean you then mocks someones disablity and use that disability againsyt them. As you are basically justifying discrmination of the disabled
You do know that such discrmination is Ableism?
It really truely concerns me you are in charge of care homes the way you speak and treat the elderly and those with disabilities.

He thinks he's such a big man and clever with it, actually he's just a slimy Asian racist, and a "pube"

Didge wrote:

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

I don't think a man in a wheelchair should talk about crawling on bended knee.

Or someone might just tip you over. ;-) #friendlyAdvice

Picking on the pensioner yet again.
Some day you too, might end up, through no fault of your own. Wheelchair bound and no matter what peoples views are or if poor, does not mean you then mocks someones disablity and use that disability againsyt them. As you are basically justifying discrmination of the disabled
You do know that such discrmination is Ableism?
It really truely concerns me you are in charge of care homes the way you speak and treat the elderly and those with disabilities.

That's the problem with spineless cowards like you: you play the victim card so easily.

nicko wrote:He thinks he's such a big man and clever with it, actually he's just a slimy Asian racist,  and a "pube"

"slimy Asian racist"? Lol!

You do realise how utterly stupid that comment is?

Have fun being a keyboard warrior. It's the only kind of warrior you'll ever be.

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Didge wrote:


Picking on the pensioner yet again.
Some day you too, might end up, through no fault of your own. Wheelchair bound and no matter what peoples views are or if poor, does not mean you then mocks someones disablity and use that disability againsyt them. As you are basically justifying discrmination of the disabled
You do know that such discrmination is Ableism?
It really truely concerns me you are in charge of care homes the way you speak and treat the elderly and those with disabilities.

That's the problem with spineless cowards like you: you play the victim card so easily.

So now even worse you think discrmination to those who suffer disabilities are playing the victim card to derisive comments you made where you still fail to grasp you played off a disability. That you are justifying discrmination, but hey, I am getting used to this as its very evident what ever you are being taught fails to understand that people should have the same equalities under the law. Which means just as Muslims are rightly protected from abusive discrmination, so are those with disabilities protected from abusive discrmination.

So if you justify discrmination based off a dislike, you then by your poor reasoning and methodology end up providing the means and justification for the likes of far right groups to discriminate against Muslims, Blacks Jews etc. This is why you are so immature. I have kept to not being abusive and justy debateing since I was banished to the basement. Its about time you grew up and did the same. You are also by your very poor reply and reasoning. Stating any Muslims who suffer any abusive discrmination, are playing the victim card. Now you may not care about if you suffer from discrmination, but I am sure many Muslims and many people with disabilities absolutely mind where they are discrminated against and they certainly do not like, when people like yourself then label them claiming they are playing the victim card.

Forget him Didge, he's the sort that would not face you, he'd stab you in the back.

nicko wrote:Forget him Didge, he's the sort that would not face you, he'd stab you in the back.

Let's not forget that Didge is the one who has actually threatened me before and then said he'll sneak up on me.

But this is the hypocrisy I expect from spineless fuckers like yourselves.

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

nicko wrote:Forget him Didge, he's the sort that would not face you, he'd stab you in the back.

Let's not forget that Didge is the one who has actually threatened me before and then said he'll sneak up on me.

But this is the hypocrisy I expect from spineless fuckers like yourselves.

Which clearly put the willies up you lol.
Though I would never stab anyone and being as you have threatened to stab people many times in the past Where you have yourself been involved in countless other fighting bout talk with other posters. It actually is more telling about how you are the one actually itching for a fight. Where you want people to be daft enough to come up to your area where from the past record you turn up mob handed.
Like I say from previous experince of fights when travelling watching football, some groups of people, they always turn up mob handed and tooled up.

Anyway its besides the point, you are being the most hypocritical here and giving the green light for anyone to discrminate with abuse based off a dislike you have for people. So you more than anyone Zack should apply your last sentence again to yourself, being as you clearly mocked his disability. Which on you doing so moots any starting point for you to judge the other person.

nicko wrote:Veya is a weak kneed snivelling coward who would shit himself and crawl on bended knee if he was ever called to fight!  A disgusting excuse for a man.  

You just want Western soldiers to do the rape and murder. like in your day

and no Men like me we would be put to work Building WMDs

Didge wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:If you want he Islamic world to fight ISIS then Stay out of it and they will.
Jordan Almost did but the cheering of the USA made it politically difficult for them too. As the USA (the West) is still Not kind to the people of the Middle east and the average civilian doesn't want their nation to join with the USA (fair enough).

If you cant see that your suggestion WILL START A WAR WITH ISLAM then that proves EXACTLY why Westerners need to stay out. If you cant see how you made half of Islam hate you with that last post.

We can Kill ISIS without the Nazi Jackboot song and dance.
We could have killed them straight away, we could kill them when ever we chose too.
So All the rhetoric above that is just kicking Muslims, that we supposed to not be trying to start a war with.. You don't need to motivate Anyone to hate ISIS Not A SINGLE PERSON HAS SUGGESTED NOT TO KILL ISIS.
So it is you that is misrepresenting what other people are saying. Killing ISIS and the Crap you posted above is NOT IN ANY WAY RELATED. what you posted is a call for a full scale war against a bunch a dispossessed peasants. that is going to incite anger at the West. Because YOU DO NOT SAVE PEOPLE WITH BOMBS.

I would prefer they we raped and murdered by ISIS scumbags then Western Scumbags that you propose sending over on mass.. and before you say they are not, They ARE WHY the area is destabilized to the point ISIS took control in the first place. Our Grunts are TOO MORALLY bankrupt for this sort of operation.

You are just making the same unfoundeing claims you did berfore condemning those under ISIS to certain suffering rape and death and all based off something that is already been happenning, war with ISIS and no war with Islam has occured or will occur. Then you eqquate westerners as scumbags who are trying to save humans from sufferings, as if that places them as bad as ISIS. It shows how removed you are from understanding anything that has been stated to you and if a war started because we were at war with an extremist group. Then there is something then fundementally wrong with Muslims and the belief Islam, that they were wage war in defense of such a group. Our troops are some of the best in the world and are way morally better at treating people than any Arab nations does when they are in war, showing again how far remove you are other understanding conflicts, the people who fight in them.
You mkake the worst apologist arguments with no thought for those who are under enslavement of ISIS where are helped has also been called upon to deal with them.

If the only reason is of a fear of a war with Islam, who is it to declare such a war?
There is nobody authorized and there is nobody who does speak for all Muslims, so again on every count your views are wrong and like I say, that if people did want to wage war against the west forthe west helping to save people from ISIS, then those Muslims would be the same as ISIS and thus back ISIS and their wrongs over anything else. So what ever way you look at this the poor fear based argument you make, condemns those under ISIS, makes a poor argument that no Muslim can declare a war of anfd also if any Muslim did go to war over the west attacking ISIS, would make that Muslim a suppoter and no better than ISIS. That makes even further the view ISIS are fundemnetally Islamic and the view they are not seperate from Islam at all. Your argument would mean associating ISIS fundementally with Islam, by trhe view looking to defeat them by the west by Muslims declaring a war of Islam against the west.. Its time you checked your moral compass Veya, because at every turn you are making excuses for ISIS over the need of helping those suffer under them all due to a misplaced fear you have, which ends up fundementally making ISIS be completely Islamic.

Lol you don't to worry about Muslims declaring the War it is fuckwits like Nicko and Tommy that are declaring the war is against All Islam.

Nicko is saying I'm a coward because I only want to kill ISIS and not all Muslims

veya_victaous wrote:

Didge wrote:

You are just making the same unfoundeing claims you did berfore condemning those under ISIS to certain suffering rape and death and all based off something that is already been happenning, war with ISIS and no war with Islam has occured or will occur. Then you eqquate westerners as scumbags who are trying to save humans from sufferings, as if that places them as bad as ISIS. It shows how removed you are from understanding anything that has been stated to you and if a war started because we were at war with an extremist group. Then there is something then fundementally wrong with Muslims and the belief Islam, that they were wage war in defense of such a group. Our troops are some of the best in the world and are way morally better at treating people than any Arab nations does when they are in war, showing again how far remove you are other understanding conflicts, the people who fight in them.
You mkake the worst apologist arguments with no thought for those who are under enslavement of ISIS where are helped has also been called upon to deal with them.

If the only reason is of a fear of a war with Islam, who is it to declare such a war?
There is nobody authorized and there is nobody who does speak for all Muslims, so again on every count your views are wrong and like I say, that if people did want to wage war against the west forthe west helping to save people from ISIS, then those Muslims would be the same as ISIS and thus back ISIS and their wrongs over anything else. So what ever way you look at this the poor fear based argument you make, condemns those under ISIS, makes a poor argument that no Muslim can declare a war of anfd also if any Muslim did go to war over the west attacking ISIS, would make that Muslim a suppoter and no better than ISIS. That makes even further the view ISIS are fundemnetally Islamic and the view they are not seperate from Islam at all. Your argument would mean associating ISIS fundementally with Islam, by trhe view looking to defeat them by the west by Muslims declaring a war of Islam against the west.. Its time you checked your moral compass Veya, because at every turn you are making excuses for ISIS over the need of helping those suffer under them all due to a misplaced fear you have, which ends up fundementally making ISIS be completely Islamic.

Lol you don't to worry about Muslims declaring the War it is fuckwits like Nicko and Tommy that are declaring the war is against All Islam.

Nicko is saying I'm a coward because I only want to kill ISIS and not all Muslims

Hi Veya

That was a very poor deflection.
Well here is a good example of what I have been talking about.
We see those with views that pander to the far right in the west and Muslims that pander to views to demonizwe the west. you hgave to combat both naratives in order to cobat these problems.
By challenging the far right narative and Muslims challenging the narativethat the west is at war with islam, helps deny each being able to use the  associating of Islam.

Veya, where have I said I want to kill all Muslims?
Your a liar as well as a coward'

Bye the way not all your Australian brothers are welcoming Muslims, big marches in some of your city's today calling for no more migrants.

That were met by Triple the number telling them to FUCK OFF.
Love it or Leave it... Racists can Fuck off back to Misery island with you lot.

....Personally went past the local mosque where they were having Free BBQ and entertainment (and I was helping a mate move in to an apartment near by)





Those people were telling these people to Fuck off (look at his forearm)




You said it where I said I want to kill ISIS and You don't think that is good enough. You say Killing ISIS is not fighting is surrendering TO WHO?

More hyperbole from Veya...

More facts and actual truth from Veya, more prejudice rubbish from others.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/01/07/uk-britain-immigration-survey-idUKBREA0600F20140107



Koran 9:29...

@TM
If you are happy that the Union Jack sits along side the Swastika there in not really any more to add..

the Symbols become more and more one in the same logos for White power racsit scum bags.

Tommy Monk wrote:More hyperbole from Veya...

More Tommy Waffle

nicko wrote:Veya,   where have I said I want to kill all Muslims?
Your a liar as well as a coward'

Bye the way not all your Australian brothers are welcoming Muslims,  big marches in some of your city's today calling for no more migrants.  

Nuh but they are too Ashamed to Show their faces Cause they Know People that think like Them Are The Same As ISIS ----
Kill the Fucking lot! Right Nicko?

Assistant Commissioner North West Metro Region Stephen Leane said wearing a face mask suggested protesters had the propensity to do something else.
“We need to work through that on a bigger picture,” he said.
“If you’ve come prepared with weapons or face masks, you shouldn’t be fronting them (the protests).”
A 29-year-old man is also expected to be charged for allegedly punching a police horse, while three people face fines for allegedly possessing weapons, and three for riotous behaviour.

http://www.news.com.au/national/crime/antiislam-antiracism-protesters-clash-at-violent-melton-rallies/news-story/8fa80333c646863c14eb2c8ffcc164fc

At least the Disgusting Cowardly nature of Reclaim Australia thugs Was noted EVEN BY THEIR OWN

Tensions rose at one point of the rally when one anti-­Islamic protester claimed his side were no better than “Muslims wearing hijabs”.
“We’re just like them if we cover our faces, we’re no better than them terrorists,” the man said.

Well veya we have scum bags over here who like to wear masks, but they are the usual "rent a mob" who come out to join any protests for the chance to fight Police and hit horses and throw marbles under horses hoofs.

No one ever gives a good reason WHY any scrounging muzziz should be here imposing their own will upon us whitiz.

Stormee wrote:No one ever gives a good reason WHY any scrounging muzziz should be here imposing their own will upon us whitiz.

I object to this post both on the basis of the use of racial slurs and on the basis of it being really stupid. Pick up your game or we'll let you practice in the basement for a while.

Stormee wrote:No one ever gives a good reason WHY any scrounging muzziz should be here imposing their own will upon us whitiz.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^another 2 reasons I detest the R/W^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

nicko wrote:Well veya we have scum bags over here who like to wear masks,  but they are the usual "rent a mob" who come out to join any protests for the chance to fight Police and hit horses and throw marbles under horses hoofs.

We don't, protest are very rare in Australia... we all have jobs

The Jobs thing is serious though, idle hands are the devil play ground.
Any one with the brains and/or work ethic can easily find a job,
thus only bludgers are left to organize no good and they're bludgers so fuck all get done

It is the far left who are the violent thugs depicted here...

Just because the media keep telling you that one thing is another, and when they are totally misrepresenting the actual reality of what truly defines what is left/right/far left/far right etc... doesn't mean that it is true!!!

Please stop being so gullible and believing/repeating their totally incorrect (but disingenuously deliberate) mislabelling of political leanings!



Please read the following articles and think beyond the totally false media spun definitions of 'left/right' that you now mistakenly believe as correct...

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100260720/whenever-you-mention-fascisms-socialist-roots-left-wingers-become-incandescent-why/


http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2715/i_resigned_for_linking_nazism_to_socialism_but_it_s_true


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/365872/learning-wrong-lessons-nazism-dennis-prager

Tommy Monk wrote:It is the far left who are the violent thugs depicted here...

Just because the media keep telling you that one thing is another, and when they are totally misrepresenting the actual reality of what truly defines what is left/right/far left/far right etc... doesn't mean that it is true!!!

Please stop being so gullible and believing/repeating their totally incorrect (but disingenuously deliberate) mislabelling of political leanings!



Please read the following articles and think beyond the totally false media spun definitions of 'left/right' that you now mistakenly believe as correct...

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100260720/whenever-you-mention-fascisms-socialist-roots-left-wingers-become-incandescent-why/


http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2715/i_resigned_for_linking_nazism_to_socialism_but_it_s_true


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/365872/learning-wrong-lessons-nazism-dennis-prager

they have 'reclaim Australia' logos (a RW org like EDL) and Pauline Hanson speaking an ex-politician that is known international for extreme racism and ultra dumb RW policies

those Rallies were in Australia I have seen them with the tattoos of Swastikas and Union Jacks, they are card carrying RW racists
So maybe you need to go out side sometimes and mix with the people