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Post by Guest Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:49 pm

They are burning our hearts and souls,
The Palestinian youth Malek Talal Eshsharif from Hebron city, was executed by Fascist Zionist occupation forces few hours ago at the junction of the illegal Kfar Ezion colony at road 60...He was on his way back from Jordan, when the service car arrived at this junction the fascist soldiers stopped the car, asked for everyone's IDs, then asked him to get out of the car and just shot him, as simple as that, killing a Palestinian is as simple as that, they will not be asked by their superiors to justify what they did, as a matter of fact they will be promoted, the more you kill the more you will be recognized, these fascist have clear orders to shot and kill at their convenience, 5 November 2015.

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I don't give a damn what didge calls it, THIS IS THE TRUTH, THIS IS WHAT THOSE SCUMBAGS ARE DOING, DAY AFTER DAY.

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:32 pm

Come on world!!!!!!!!!!!
What possible harm could this elder Palestinian woman cause to the Zionist occupation security to be killed, Tharwat Sharawi 72 years old who was shot today by fascist Zionist occupation forces today at Ras Ejjora in Hebron city, she was shot while she was driving her car into the gas station, these thugs kill everything, anything, anyone thats Palestinian because they want and they can, 6 November 2015.

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Murdering fucking thugs.



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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:46 pm

Any links available?

Ta.
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:47 pm

No.  Private info from someone there.

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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:48 pm

OK.
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:35 pm

Now confirmed here http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/israeli-forces-shoot-dead-72-year-palestinian-woman-151106155250695.html

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:57 pm

Like who did she try to run over in a fucking petrol station lol

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:00 pm

The pictures taken on the spot show her care was away from everyone.  Lying bastards all of them.

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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:02 pm

I read that she was attempting to run over Israeli soldiers, and of course that's possible, despite her age.

There's just not enough info to make a judgement, but it's pretty awful, I agree.
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:04 pm

Well, the car was obviously in a garage, other people were hurt by the bullets they fired I understand, and shooting by petrol stand seems exceptionally stupid and dangerous.   Scared of an old lady, cowards.  they probably had her on their kill list.

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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:14 pm

Sassy, in the photo you posted first it looks like the barriers are not fully open, and then in the article they are more open. It looks like your first pic was earlier than the one in the article. If they were not fully open why would she drive in there to get petrol?
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:17 pm

There's an entrance on the other side, not in the photo.   Gas stations normally have two don't they?

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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:18 pm

sassy wrote:There's an entrance on the other side, not in the photo.   Gas stations normally have two don't they?

Judging by the way the car is facing, it looks like she drove in through those yellow barriers though.
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:21 pm

I couldn't say, only the pictures were taken by a friend of a friend who said she simply drove in and they came in after her.   Even if she was forgetful at her age and went through and entrance she was not supposed to, as she was stopped it was murder to shoot her.

Apart from anything else, she could have come in from the other way and then turned the corner, might have been air for tyres in that area, you can't see, or it might be a workshop and she wanted something done to the car.


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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:22 pm

sassy wrote:I couldn't say, only the pictures were taken by a friend of a friend who said she simply drove in and they came in after her.   Even if she was forgetful at her age and went through and entrance she was not supposed to, as she was stopped it was murder to shoot her.

So your friend of a friend didn't see what happened before she drove in then. It's possible that she drove in there to elude them, and that she did try to run them down previously.
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:24 pm

Oh yes, you try to run someone down and then stop at a gas station instead of driving away, that makes perfect sense. lol

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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:25 pm

sassy wrote:Oh yes, you try to run someone down and then stop at a gas station instead of driving away, that makes perfect sense. lol

It looks like the petrol station was not actually open at the time, so I doubt she went in there to get petrol.
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:28 pm

Who says it wasn't open?  The shot of the barrier with the soldiers shows it was open at an angle that would allow an exit, the other side was probably open to allow an entrance.

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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:31 pm

sassy wrote:Who says it wasn't open?  The shot of the barrier with the soldiers shows it was open at an angle that would allow an exit, the other side was probably open to allow an entrance.

Yes, but in the photo you posted first, it was not really open.
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:34 pm

They aren't in order, and actually the first doesn't show any different to the second if you look at the positioning, it just doesn't go as far to the right.

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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:36 pm

sassy wrote:They aren't in order.

Have another look. In the photo you posted, the soldiers are just going into the petrol station, and the barriers are not fully open. In the article, the barrier has been opened up to allow that armoured vehicle in. Therefore, the scenario in the pic you posted came first.
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:37 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
sassy wrote:They aren't in order.

Have another look. In the photo you posted, the soldiers are just going into the petrol station, and the barriers are not fully open. In the article, the barrier has been opened up to allow that armoured vehicle in. Therefore, the scenario in the pic you posted came first.

Edited my post while you were posting, which explains.

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In the second pic, the left-hand barrier has been opened up.
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:39 pm

Plus, if you look at the front of her car in the third picture, it is undamaged, it she had gone through a barrier it would have been smashed.

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:41 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:MURDERED FOR BEING IN A CAR - AND THE PROOF IS NOW THERE. 11227598_10154351316300760_823024643560210547_n

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In the second pic, the left-hand barrier has been opened up.

No, it's just a different angle, and as I said, the front of her car is undamaged.

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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:41 pm

sassy wrote:Plus, if you look at the front of her car in the third picture, it is undamaged, it she had gone through a barrier it would have been smashed.

I have been trying to look at the front of the car, but it's not clear enough. I'm not necessarily suggesting that she rammed the barrier, just that she drove in when it was clearly not properly open, so it's unlikely she was going in there for petrol.
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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:42 pm

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No, it's just a different angle, and as I said, the front of her car is undamaged.

No - look at the sign on the right-hand barrier - it's the same on both photos, but the left-hand barrier is definitely opened up later.
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:42 pm

Sorry, disagree completely, that side was probably opened to angle it for and exist and the other side for an entrance.

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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:44 pm

sassy wrote:Sorry, disagree completely, that side was probably opened to angle it for and exist and the other side for an entrance.

No. She drove in through the yellow barrier, even though it was largely closed. It's like two gates - the left-hand gate is closed, and the right-hand gate is partially open.
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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:46 pm

Also, any damage would on the front right of the car, not the left, and we can only see a bit of the front left side.
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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:59 pm

I've found a video of the aftermath with a different angle of the car, and there doesn't appear to be damage to the front right of the car.

However, it's still clear that the left barrier was not open when she drove in there.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/israeli-forces-shoot-dead-72-year-palestinian-woman-151106155250695.html
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:01 pm

Well, if there was no damage to the car, she must have come in from the other side, and the link says they shot her as she drove into the gas station.

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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:04 pm

sassy wrote:Well, if there was no damage to the car, she must have come in from the other side, and the link says they shot her as she drove into the gas station.

She can't have - how would the car have ended up in that position? I'm not saying she rammed the barrier anyway, merely that I doubt she went in to get petrol because the barrier wasn't properly open.
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:06 pm

As I said, who said it is the only entrance?  Why would you have one entrance/exit to a petrol station with alll those stands, it would be chaos.  And the link confirms she was driving into it when then shot her.  She could have carried on for a few yard after being shot, unable to control the car properly.   So she was in a gas station, in her car, and they shot her.

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Post by Guest Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:07 pm

Anyway, BBL, trying to do a Scrabble tournament at the same time.

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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:09 pm

sassy wrote:As I said, who said it is the only entrance?  Why would you have one entrance/exit to a petrol station with alll those stands, it would be chaos.  And the link confirms she was driving into it when then shot her.  She could have carried on for a few yard after being shot, unable to control the car properly.   So she was in a gas station, in her car, and they shot her.

Look at where the car is and the way its facing. Where could she possibly have driven in other than through those yellow barriers?
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Post by Raggamuffin Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:17 pm

In fact, anyone who hadn't seen the first pic wouldn't know that the left barrier had been shut when she drove in, so the assumption will be that it was open.

I'm being fair here Sassy. As you know, I like to look at the evidence myself. None of us are there and we can only go on what we can see in photos and videos. I cannot see any damage to the front of the car, but I can also see that the left barrier was shut before the armed vehicle drove in.
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Post by Raggamuffin Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:58 pm

I read that the front of the car had bullet holes in it, which would mean it was shot at from the front. That would give credence to the claim that she was trying to run soldiers down. However, I cannot find any pics of this, and the pics I've seen of the car are not close enough to see bullet holes.
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Tommy Monk wrote:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinian-attempts-to-run-over-idf-soldiers-near-hebron/



Thank you Tommy. There's still no close up of the car though, so there's nothing to verify that she drove the car at them. Now I don't believe that they would just randomly decide to shoot at the next car which pulled into the petrol station, but the story keeps changing - she was driving in the rain, she was on her way to lunch, she just needed petrol, etc. The trouble is that's there's usually no follow up to these incidents because the next one happens and they all just get lumped together.
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Post by Tommy Monk Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:21 pm

Some of her fellow Muslims will say anything to deny and deflect from what she was really doing...





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Israel Murders Palestinian Granny on Her Way to Lunch in Hail of Bullets



Yesterday, Israeli forces in Hebron assassinated a 73 year-old Palestinian woman who was driving to her sister’s home for lunch.  The Israeli occupation army claimed this was a terror attack and she drove at high-speed towards soldiers who opened fire and “neutralized” her.

The 11 second video above was ‘shot’ by an IDF soldier at the scene wearing a GoPro video camera.  I don’t know how Palestinians managed to get it and upload it to YouTube.  But I can tell you that the IDF is pissed–royally pissed.

Maariv writes:
…The security apparatus is extremely anxious because the video taken by a soldier somehow got to Palestinians.  An investigation will be opened into the matter.

Not an investigation into the murder.  But an investigation of the poor shlub who took the video and allowed it to get into the hands of the “enemy.”

The video shows that while the woman drove her car at a relatively high rate of speed she at no point intended to harm any soldier.  The soldiers were easily able to get out of her way as she drove toward them.  If she had wanted to hit them she easily could’ve swerved into them and done so.  She didn’t.

Given her advanced age, she likely didn’t even realize what the soldiers wanted her to do.  Or maybe she was talking on a cell phone or texting and not paying close attention to the road.  There were no signs or markers indicating a checkpoint or that soldiers had established a location for inspecting vehicles.

At any rate, the soldiers wanted her to stop her vehicle and she didn’t.  So they killed her.  It’s as simple as that.  Her family’s claims that she was on her way to lunch with her sister are correct.  And she died for it.

Haaretz now reports that the IDF also claimed that it found a “commando knife” in her vehicle.  If they found any such implement it was probably a paring knife she was going to use to peel fruit for lunch!  But Haaretz says that this report is now considered suspect, as is the claim that the woman’s husband was killed in the first Intifada.  Amos Harel, who is no Gideon Levy on Haaretz’s reporting staff, even says that the video shows the soldiers who killed her cannot legitimately claim they feared for their lives.

Frankly, I’ve never heard of any 73 year-old anywhere in the world perpetrating a terror attack of any kind (though there may be an exception someone can find).  Usually 73 year-olds, thinking about their legacy, want to spend as much time as possible with their children and grandchildren, which is precisely what Tharwat Sharawi was doing.

Mainstream media reports say her husband was killed by Israeli forces in 1988 during the first Intifada, as if somehow she’s been nursing the desire for revenge for nearly 30 years and never found the right moment till now.

  The journalistic atrocity of reporting this killing is exacerbated by MSM headlines which offer the Israeli narrative, to the exclusion of the actual story offered clearly by her own family (and reported as headlines only in the Arab media, Israel shoots dead 73-year-old Palestinian ‘on her way to lunch’)–that she was on her way to lunch, not heaven.

I have twice been a victim of accidents caused by elderly women.  Once, my bicycle was destroyed when a car crashed into a utility pole which toppled on my bicycle, which had been standing right next to me.  The woman driver seemed confused and probably had some sort of problem with the medications she was using.  Just three weeks ago I was waiting to make a turn at an intersection.  When the car in front of me didn’t move on a green turn arrow I honked my horn.  Then, the car, instead of moving forward, went into reverse and crashed into my own car.  When I got out of the car I was met with a clearly disoriented, confused woman who probably shouldn’t have been driving at all.

Now, I don’t know whether this is what happened in the case of Sharawi.  But I give elderly drivers the benefit of the doubt if at all possible.  I don’t advocate executing them for their deteriorating driving skills.  Israel appears to have different rules of the road.

Apparently, few in the MSM can do independent reporting or bother to question a fraudulent narrative that demands you believe an elderly grandmother would prefer to join the Intifada to kill Israeli soldiers rather than enjoy lunch with her sister.  What are these editors and reporters doing?  Phoning it in?  Do they do any independent thinking at all?

She is the 78th Palestinian murdered by Israeli forces since October 1st.  11 Israelis have died during that period.

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2015/11/08/israel-murders-palestinian-granny-on-her-way-to-lunch-in-hail-of-bullets/


AS I BLOODY SAID, MURDERED FOR BEING IN A CAR!!!!!!

The angle of that open gate Rags - was how the IDF had put it to get cars to go, but there were no road blocks or notices to say so, and she was probably dead at the wheel before it arrived at it's stopping point.

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Post by Guest Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:51 am

That proves she drove straight at them


I saw this video last week when it was released the day after

Talk about a lying article

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Post by Guest Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:54 am

Well, you live up (or should I say down) to your reputation.

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Post by Guest Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:03 am

Well, again this video was released straight after, again do you want to see the Times of Israel account?

The article was about her son who made the crap claims that she is innocent even thoughthe family are all Hamas



Sha’arawi himself served in Israeli prison for his affiliation with terror group Hamas, which is devoted to Israel’s destruction.

His sister is married to the head of the organization in prison, Muhammed Jamal al-Natsha. He, however, denies that his family’s links to the terror group had anything to do with his mother.


http://www.timesofisrael.com/after-car-ramming-son-of-elderly-suspect-casts-doubt-on-idf-story/

She is guilty and the video proves it

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:25 am

This is the first time I've seen the video - thanks for posting it Sassy.

I've slowed it right down on You Tube. She is driving very close to the kerb, and there are soldiers standing in the road, so they may well have thought she was driving straight at them. She doesn't slow down to allow for people being in the road. She turns into the petrol station, but that's after she was shot at, so it's impossible to say that her intention was to go in there. She may have done so to escape the shooting.

I've read reports that it was raining heavily, so she perhaps couldn't see where she was going very well. It doesn't appear to be raining in that video.

I couldn't say for sure that she was driving at them deliberately, but I can see why they would think she was.
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Post by Guest Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:31 am

Its as clear as day, one soldier is waving her to move away and then the car  heads staright at the soldiers, who have to evade the car. The car veers towards the soldiers, so how could she not see them? There can only be two possibilities based on the evidence and connection with her children to Hamas, plus the evidence of a knife. It was either deilberate attempt at murder or she had poor eyesight and should not have been driving in the first place. If its the later and the soldiers are waving her to mover across, of which she ignores and heads straight at soldiers during a hightened time of attacks. Then they would rightly be in fear of an attack, when there has been a number of cars ramming israeli's. If she is thus driving with poor eyesight, then again that is irresponsible and could have caused an accident.

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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:34 am

The car does appear to swerve slightly to the right as she gets near the soldiers. It's hard to say because of the angle it's being filmed at. She can't have failed to see that there were several soldiers standing in the road, so why did she not slow down? If you approached a group of people standing in the road you'd slow down - you wouldn't just carry on regardless because they were in the way.
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Post by Raggamuffin Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:42 am

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The angle of that open gate Rags - was how the IDF had put it to get cars to go, but there were no road blocks or notices to say so, and she was probably dead at the wheel before it arrived at it's stopping point.

I've never disputed that the right-hand gate was open Sassy. It's not open all the way, but enough for a car to go through. I said that the left-hand gate was not open, and you can't really see it in that video but I think it's closed.

If she really was going to get petrol, why on earth did she just drive straight at those soldiers? At best, it was a complete disregard for road safety to drive in that manner. I think she drove in there because of the shooting.
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Post by Guest Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:42 am

Like I say, what ever way you look at this, from the view point of the soldiers this would have looked to them to be a deliberate attack. Its easy to say in hindsight and makes claims she is some innocent 72 year old and play off this factor, but there is a connection to extremism within her family. They also claim she had a knife in the car. In a situation where people are being attacked near daily whether stabbed or rammed by cars, what do people expect the soldiers to do? You also have the added fear of a suicide bomb car attack. Hence why not living in such a hostile hateful environment daily as the Israeli's have to do under fear of constant atack, is ridiculous for anyone to blame the soldiers here.

Like I say I would not rule out the possibility she had poor eyesight, but if this was the case responsibility would be with her, as she should not be driving, as this places people at an increased risk of danger. Another possibility is that, though no evidence has been made, is that its possible she may have had a heart attack or stroke. But the way the car veers and does not slow down, diminishes the chances of this being the case.

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