Your predictions for 2015...

I think it will be another hung parliament , with the Lib - Dems being again in a position to play God.
I just don't see any single party reaching the 326 mark and I don't think the party with fewer votes than the two most popular parties should be allowed to form a coalition with Labour or the Tories..

The vote should be then done between the two parties with the most votes if the 326 seats is to remain the ' magic number' and if that magic number is not reached then the party with a clear 100 seats or so should be declared government.

Last time Nick Clegg was handed the role of playing God(does he really think he is me?) and the only achievement he made was to second to both the Tories and Labour in the last general election.

If you had asked me a year ago, I would have said it would be a hung parliament again. Now I think Labour will win, I think so many people have come to realise that they are so much worse off under this government.

Joy Division wrote:I think it will be another hung parliament , with the Lib - Dems being again in a position to play God.
I just don't see any single party reaching the 326 mark and I don't think the party with fewer votes than the two most popular parties should be allowed to form a coalition with Labour or the Tories..

The vote should be then done between the two parties with the most votes if the 326 seats is to remain the ' magic number' and if that magic number is not reached then the party with a clear 100 seats or so should be declared government.

Last time Nick Clegg was handed the role of playing God(does he really think he is me?) and the only achievement he made was to second to both the Tories and Labour in the last general election.

The polls have been consistent in suggesting that the next government of Britian will be a majority Labour one for years now.

IMO...We have some way to go yet and the next general election campaign will be the most dirtiest in years, for the Labour party to climb into bed with the Liberals and to form a coalition with them would be a very big mistake IMO...They have shown that they can't be trusted and i cite the two issues over student education as examples.

I would hope that the Labour party, if they fall short of an overall majority, they should look towards the smaller parties like the greens etc..etc..before they would even consider those turncoats...But if push comes to shove and there was no other option then a coalition with the Liberals would be better than an out and out Tory government.

Sassy wrote:If you had asked me a year ago, I would have said it would be a hung parliament again.   Now I think Labour will win, I think so many people have come to realise that they are so much worse off under this government.

..Sassy you are so right and I really pray for a Labour government, this ship has long sunk.

Catman wrote:

Joy Division wrote:I think it will be another hung parliament , with the Lib - Dems being again in a position to play God.
I just don't see any single party reaching the 326 mark and I don't think the party with fewer votes than the two most popular parties should be allowed to form a coalition with Labour or the Tories..

The vote should be then done between the two parties with the most votes if the 326 seats is to remain the ' magic number' and if that magic number is not reached then the party with a clear 100 seats or so should be declared government.

Last time Nick Clegg was handed the role of playing God(does he really think he is me?) and the only achievement he made was to second to both the Tories and Labour in the last general election.

The polls have been consistent in suggesting that the next government of Britian will be a majority Labour one for years now.

IMO...We have some way to go yet and the next general election campaign will be the most dirtiest in years, for the Labour party to climb into bed with the Liberals and to form a coalition with them would be a very big mistake IMO...They have shown that they can't be trusted and i cite the two issues over student education as examples.

I would hope that the Labour party, if they fall short of an overall majority, they should look towards the smaller parties like the greens etc..etc..before they would even consider those turncoats...But if push comes to shove and there was no other option then a coalition with the Liberals would be better than an out and out Tory government.

That's just it though Phil, there is no other party pulling in enough votes to make a combined majority IMO ...

Only the fib dems, the greens etc are too little to make a difference and Labour would never dream of combining forces with filth like the EDL, BNP etc...even if they did pull enough voted to combine a joint majority.

Joy Division wrote:

Catman wrote:

The polls have been consistent in suggesting that the next government of Britian will be a majority Labour one for years now.

IMO...We have some way to go yet and the next general election campaign will be the most dirtiest in years, for the Labour party to climb into bed with the Liberals and to form a coalition with them would be a very big mistake IMO...They have shown that they can't be trusted and i cite the two issues over student education as examples.

I would hope that the Labour party, if they fall short of an overall majority, they should look towards the smaller parties like the greens etc..etc..before they would even consider those turncoats...But if push comes to shove and there was no other option then a coalition with the Liberals would be better than an out and out Tory government.

That's just it though Phil, there is no other party pulling in enough votes to make a combined majority IMO ...

Only the fib dems, the greens etc are too little to make a difference and Labour would never dream of combining forces with filth like the EDL, BNP etc...even if they did pull enough voted to combine a joint majority.

Well time will tell...But the polls have been consistent enough to suggest that we will have a majority Labour government the next time and i think that at the time of the next GE things will be far worse than they are now.

Catman wrote:

Joy Division wrote:


That's just it though Phil, there is no other party pulling in enough votes to make a combined majority IMO ...

Only the fib dems, the greens etc are too little to make a difference and Labour would never dream of combining forces with filth like the EDL, BNP etc...even if they did pull enough voted to combine a joint majority.

Well time will tell...But the polls have been consistent enough to suggest that we will have a majority Labour government the next time and i think that at the time of the next GE things will be far worse than they are now.

..as you know Phil, polls can and do change nearer to election time, and you also know as well as me that the Tories(past and present) will pull out all the stops in an effort to block a would- be Labour government...

But I hope those polls reflect the result.

A well hung parliament.

According to the polls as they stand at the moment on independence it is highly unlikely but Scotland may not even be a part of the UK in 2015.

Irn Bru wrote:According to the polls as they stand at the moment on independence it is highly unlikely but Scotland may not even be a part of the UK in 2015.

...gosh, that is a surprising poll Irn, here's us all being led to believe that we just won't go for it, yet a poll suggesting otherwise!, but as you say it's unlikely indeed..

Change always possible though.

Joy Division wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:According to the polls as they stand at the moment on independence it is highly unlikely but Scotland may not even be a part of the UK in 2015.

...gosh, that is a surprising poll Irn, here's us all being led to believe that we just won't go for it, yet a poll suggesting otherwise!, but as you say it's unlikely indeed..

Change always possible though.

I worded that badly JD. The polls right now are suggesting that we won't go for independence. As you say though, that can change.

Irn Bru wrote:

Joy Division wrote:


...gosh, that is a surprising poll Irn, here's us all being led to believe that we just won't go for it, yet a poll suggesting otherwise!, but as you say it's unlikely indeed..

Change always possible though.

I worded that badly JD. The polls right now are suggesting that we won't go for independence. As you say though, that can change.

..Nae bother Irn, yeah, although I don't think we will go for it, I do believe a yes vote will be a bit more than others predict

Irn Bru wrote:

Joy Division wrote:


...gosh, that is a surprising poll Irn, here's us all being led to believe that we just won't go for it, yet a poll suggesting otherwise!, but as you say it's unlikely indeed..

Change always possible though.

I worded that badly JD. The polls right now are suggesting that we won't go for independence. As you say though, that can change.

Please...Please..Please...Don't vote for independence as that would probably inflict endless Tory governments on the English!

Catman wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:

I worded that badly JD. The polls right now are suggesting that we won't go for independence. As you say though, that can change.

Please...Please..Please...Don't vote for independence as that would probably inflict endless Tory governments on the English!

..many more Scots would remain more than happy to remain in the UK Phil, but not under a Tory government, again...

Well, that is how I feel!!!!and I'm sure as hell quite a few more do too,

Will there be a Braveheart 2, cause that would be awesome  :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: 

veya_victaous wrote:Will there be a Braveheart 2, cause that would be awesome   :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: 

There isn't likely going to be a civil war involving the Scots and the English...It's going to be the poor against the rich when it eventually happens.

Sorry to disappoint you Veya!   

Why would we ever need a RW moderator...Veya is RW!

Thats not fair catman          but I dont see the point of any extra mods.

I would just like to see are more accurte re-enactment
like the one described on Simpsons by grounds keeper Willy
"Now, the kilt was only for day-to-day wear. In battle, we donned a full-length ball gown covered in sequins. The idea was to blind your opponent with luxury. "

If they de-annex Scotland does anybody think they'd eventually return Northern Ireland? I care both because of my Irish ancestry and the fact that when my brother and I asked our favorite bartender about the photo of him with Gerry Adams he replied, "Oh, we don't talk about that ..."

Ben_Reilly wrote:If they de-annex Scotland does anybody think they'd eventually return Northern Ireland? I care both because of my Irish ancestry and the fact that when my brother and I asked our favorite bartender about the photo of him with Gerry Adams he replied, "Oh, we don't talk about that ..."

Northern Ireland can join the Republic if they hold a vote on it.
Sinn Fein has been growing in popularity in the North and it's now the second largest political party there so it's possible the North will join the Republic soon enough.

Welcome Knave Of Spades...

Lurker wrote:Welcome Knave Of Spades...

'sup?

At present I do not think Labour stands any chance of being elected, not with their current leader and due to not having any viable economic plan. The reality is money talks in this country and if the economy continues to grow the Tories will win outright, but only if there has been an agreement with the EU on immigration and laws, as I expect the UKIP to play a part in the next election. If the Tories do get an agreement they will play heavily on this and use the record of Labour before them to great affect. There is plenty of disgruntled people at the moment, but it will be about which party that can accommodate them come election time. The Tories may make some tough decisions, but they are decisions that seem to have gained some respect from the populace and thus why I see them winning out right.

As to Scotland, I do not see them leaving to be honest, though if they did it would be interesting to see if this would have a knock on affect with Northern Ireland, which is now very much split evenly with Protestant and Catholics. Should Northern Ireland be part of a united Ireland, I think very much so it should be, but again at what cost? As there is also still a very strong passion of those who are Protestant who see themselves as part of the UK and it could escalate into more trouble again, a very difficult situation indeed, one I think it is not ready for. In time yes, as the more people turn away from the religion, the more it will become a reality.

Voters prefer growth to higher wages: Poll suggests Conservatives have won the argument over the economy:

Britons regard securing growth as their top economic priority and believe it is more important than higher wages, according to survey for The Independent. The ComRes findings suggest that the Conservatives’ message on the economy may resonate more than Labour’s campaign on the “cost-of-living crisis”. Their competing visions will be a crucial battleground at the 2015 election.

The public were asked to choose their most important priority over the next five years from a range of options about the economy. The most popular was ensuring that it continues to grow (41 per cent) followed by ensuring wages rise faster than prices (25 per cent); keeping inflation down (17 per cent); reducing the deficit (12 per cent); other (3 per cent) and don’t know (2 per cent).

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/voters-prefer-growth-to-higher-wages-poll-suggests-conservatives-have-won-the-argument-over-the-economy-9011374.html

Catman wrote:

veya_victaous wrote:Will there be a Braveheart 2, cause that would be awesome   :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: :<:i}: 

There isn't likely going to be a civil war involving the Scots and the English...It's going to be the poor against the rich when it eventually happens.

Aye, that is most likely Phil, the rich and poor divide across the entire UK has widened under this government again.

Catman wrote:Why would we ever need a RW moderator...Veya is RW!

Is it Verity from BF Phil?

She is ok tbh! Even if she is Tory!!!!! Not often been said of many a Tory eh?!

Nope I'm an Aussie Guy.
never meet you English folks before (except Capitan Jane)   

Joy Division wrote:I think it will be another hung parliament , with the Lib - Dems being again in a position to play God.
I just don't see any single party reaching the 326 mark and I don't think the party with fewer votes than the two most popular parties should be allowed to form a coalition with Labour or the Tories..

The vote should be then done between the two parties with the most votes if the 326 seats is to remain the ' magic number' and if that magic number is not reached then the party with a clear 100 seats or so should be declared government.

Last time Nick Clegg was handed the role of playing God(does he really think he is me?) and the only achievement he made was to second to both the Tories and Labour in the last general election.

if it is a hung parliament again, god forbid, they should rerun a tie breaker between the two biggest parties. Mind you it would be better for us all if they reduced the number of MP's to start with and made the boundaries cover more or less the same amount of people.

Catman wrote:

Joy Division wrote:I think it will be another hung parliament , with the Lib - Dems being again in a position to play God.
I just don't see any single party reaching the 326 mark and I don't think the party with fewer votes than the two most popular parties should be allowed to form a coalition with Labour or the Tories..

The vote should be then done between the two parties with the most votes if the 326 seats is to remain the ' magic number' and if that magic number is not reached then the party with a clear 100 seats or so should be declared government.

Last time Nick Clegg was handed the role of playing God(does he really think he is me?) and the only achievement he made was to second to both the Tories and Labour in the last general election.

The polls have been consistent in suggesting that the next government of Britian will be a majority Labour one for years now.

IMO...We have some way to go yet and the next general election campaign will be the most dirtiest in years, for the Labour party to climb into bed with the Liberals and to form a coalition with them would be a very big mistake IMO...They have shown that they can't be trusted and i cite the two issues over student education as examples.

I would hope that the Labour party, if they fall short of an overall majority, they should look towards the smaller parties like the greens etc..etc..before they would even consider those turncoats...But if push comes to shove and there was no other option then a coalition with the Liberals would be better than an out and out Tory government.

the polls last time suggested the tories would be a government. Polls years before an election are more or less meaningless. We might start seeing more accurate ones at the beginning of 2015.

Joy Division wrote:

Sassy wrote:If you had asked me a year ago, I would have said it would be a hung parliament again.   Now I think Labour will win, I think so many people have come to realise that they are so much worse off under this government.

..Sassy you are so right and I really pray for a Labour government, this ship has long sunk.

will that be a labour government that has got it entirely wrong in every prediction on the economy since 2010

Irn Bru wrote:According to the polls as they stand at the moment on independence it is highly unlikely but Scotland may not even be a part of the UK in 2015.

scotland leaving the union would be great news for a tory UK, but is about as likely as neil kinnock winning an election.

Ben_Reilly wrote:If they de-annex Scotland does anybody think they'd eventually return Northern Ireland? I care both because of my Irish ancestry and the fact that when my brother and I asked our favorite bartender about the photo of him with Gerry Adams he replied, "Oh, we don't talk about that ..."

the scots do not want to leave, they know which side their bread is buttered. As long as the majority of people in NORTHERN Ireland wish to remain british they will.
As Adams once said, the IRA haven't gone away, they have just changed clothes. If Gerry Adams was in the same class as nelson mandela then "the troubles" would really be a thing of the past. And not bubbling on the verge of exploding again, just the like the bombs

Joy Division wrote:

Catman wrote:

There isn't likely going to be a civil war involving the Scots and the English...It's going to be the poor against the rich when it eventually happens.

Aye, that is most likely Phil, the rich and poor divide across the entire UK has widened under this government again.

wasn't it at its widest under the previous government. not a very good achievement for 13 years in power.

Cantankerous wrote:

Joy Division wrote:

..Sassy you are so right and I really pray for a Labour government, this ship has long sunk.

will that be a labour government that has got it entirely wrong in every prediction on the economy since 2010

There isn't a Labour government in power at the moment so that can't possibly be true.

It's the Tories and George Osborne that are in power and it's them that have failed to meet almost every fiscal target they set in 2010 and he keeps revising every few months. He did say that he should be judged on maintaining our AAA credit rating and of course that went so the judgement has been made.

You just got a wee bit mixed up I guess.

Cantankerous wrote:

Ben_Reilly wrote:If they de-annex Scotland does anybody think they'd eventually return Northern Ireland? I care both because of my Irish ancestry and the fact that when my brother and I asked our favorite bartender about the photo of him with Gerry Adams he replied, "Oh, we don't talk about that ..."

the scots do not want to leave, they know which side their bread is buttered. As long as the majority of people in NORTHERN Ireland wish to remain british they will.
As Adams once said, the IRA haven't gone away, they have just changed clothes. If Gerry Adams was in the same class as nelson mandela then "the troubles" would really be a thing of the past. And not bubbling on the verge of exploding again, just the like the bombs

There are many Scots who prefer to be in the Union and I suspect that many of them would feel guilty at cutting England loose from the oil revenues that are still flowing and the tax contributions made by the Scots.

Try not to worry about it - it probably won't happen.

Cantankerous wrote:

Irn Bru wrote:According to the polls as they stand at the moment on independence it is highly unlikely but Scotland may not even be a part of the UK in 2015.

scotland leaving the union would be great news for a tory UK, but is about as likely as neil kinnock winning an election.

About as likely as Cameron winning one as well. Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in 2010 lol