Israel creating conditions for another "Defensive Shield"

“The Palestinian people, like all peoples of conscience and moral responsibility, condemn the use of violence against innocent civilians. However, Palestine, under Israel’s belligerent occupation, has been subject to the systematic and escalating violence of the occupation, whether in the form of settler-terrorism or at the hands of the Israeli military using live ammunition. Recently Palestine has witnessed an alarming and deliberate escalation by Israel, particularly against Al-Aqsa Mosque and Jerusalem’s Old City, while settlers on the rampage enjoy the protection of occupation forces and the political backing of the Israeli government.
 
This year alone, the Israeli Occupation Forces have attacked thousands of Palestinian civilians, and carried out over 3,000 raids on Palestinian cities and villages. Additionally, the Israeli forces murdered over 30 Palestinians and imprisoned over 3,500 others. This does not include settler violence against the Palestinian civilian population which amounted to more than 11,000 attacks in the last 10 years.
 
The Palestinian leadership has warned the international community for decades that Israel’s culture of impunity is destroying any prospects of peace and has created an unsustainable situation of instability, racism and violence.
 
The root cause of violence in the Middle East is the continued injustice inflicted on the Palestinian people and the persistent impunity of the Israeli occupation. Benjamin Netanyahu’s right-wing extremist government continues to deny Palestinian rights and incite violence, clearly indicating that ending this system of occupation and apartheid is not an option.
 
Netanyahu is under the delusion that he can convince his own people and the international community that he can “manage the situation.” This is not only morally deplorable; it is also politically irresponsible and effectively unsustainable. Never has a people under foreign occupation accepted the systematic violation of their rights and freedoms.   
 
The collective punishment that the Palestinian people have suffered over the past 48 hours, including Israeli settler and military attacks against civilians, proves that the Israeli government is deliberately creating a situation of violence and instability that threatens to spiral out of control. This government is thereby attempting to create the conditions for a new “Defensive Shield” operation similar to that of 2002 in which the Israeli Army carried out the senseless destruction of Palestinian lives, infrastructure and institutions.  That operation was launched with steps similar to those being adopted now, including the sealing of Occupied Jerusalem and the fragmentation of the rest of Palestine with hundreds of checkpoints, while giving free reign to the settlers to continue their attacks.
 
It is time for the international community to undertake its responsibility and to engage positively to put an end to this lethal situation.  Palestine has already asked for international protection in accordance with several legal and precedential options available to the United Nations. The heightened urgency is evidenced by the intensification and escalation of violence and extremism threatening to engulf not just Palestine and Israel but the whole region as wel .”

http://dci.plo.ps/EN/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3800:october-4-2015-dr-ashrawi-on-the-current-situation&catid=92:news&Itemid=420


The Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, commonly referred to as the Fourth Geneva Convention and abbreviated as GCIV, is one of the four treaties of the Geneva Conventions. It was adopted in August 1949, and defines humanitarian protections for civilians in a war zone. There are currently 196 countries party to the 1949 Geneva Conventions, including this and the other three treaties.^[1]
In 1993, the United Nations Security Council adopted a report from the Secretary-General and a Commission of Experts which concluded that the Geneva Conventions had passed into the body of customary international law, thus making them binding on non-signatories to the Conventions whenever they engage in armed conflicts.^[2]

Section I. Provisions common to the territories of the parties to the conflict and to occupied territories

Article 32. A protected person/s shall not have anything done to them of such a character as to cause physical suffering or extermination ... the physical suffering or extermination of protected persons in their hands. This prohibition applies not only to murder, torture, corporal punishments, mutilation and medical or scientific experiments not necessitated by the medical treatment. While popular debate remains on what constitutes a legal definition of torture (see discussion on the Torture page), the ban on corporal punishment simplifies the matter; even the most mundane physical abuse is thereby forbidden by Article 32, as a precaution against alternate definitions of torture.
The prohibition on scientific experiments was added, in part, in response to experiments by German and Japanese doctors during World War II, of whom Josef Mengele was the most infamous.

Collective punishments

Article 33. No persons may be punished for an offense he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited.
Pillage is prohibited.
Reprisals against persons and their property are prohibited.

Under the 1949 Geneva Conventions, collective punishment is a war crime. By collective punishment, the drafters of the Geneva Conventions had in mind the reprisal killings of World War I and World War II. In the First World War, the Germans executed Belgian villagers in mass retribution for resistance activity during the Rape of Belgium. In World War II, both the Germans and the Japanese carried out a form of collective punishment to suppress resistance. Entire villages or towns or districts were held responsible for any resistance activity that occurred in them.^[3] The conventions, to counter this, reiterated the principle of individual responsibility. The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) Commentary to the conventions states that parties to a conflict often would resort to "intimidatory measures to terrorize the population" in hopes of preventing hostile acts, but such practices "strike at guilty and innocent alike. They are opposed to all principles based on humanity and justice."
Additional Protocol II of 1977 explicitly forbids collective punishment

Voice from Jerusalem ‏@Pales601  3 hrs3 hours ago

 
#Israeli occupation forces stormed the house of AlJabari family in Hebron to detain a child at the age of 3 years
 



Such heroes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   fucking scumbags!

And now they have killed two other kids coming home from school.

if you fuck with the bull you get the horns.

no mercy for the palestinian vermin

They aren't the bull, without America's money and arms they'd be a mouse. 

And I gather you aren't a man of your word, you made a bet, lost, and are still here.  Don't make bets Smelly, you haven't the balls to keep them.

What are they up to,
Terrorist Zionist occupation buses at Hebron Gate (Jaffa Gate) in occupied Jerusalem now, 5 October 2015.

Zionist occupation soldiers surrounding Al Maqased Hospital in occupied Jerusalem and preparing to storm it to kidnap an injured Palestinian who was shot twice by a terrorist Zionist occupation colonist an hour ago, 5 October 2015.




Illegal under the Geneva Convention.

Netanyahu has no interest in peace other than total capitulation and acceptance that the Jewish State of Isreal is entitled to all the land of Eretz Israel is theirs and anyone else living there lives under their rule.

Build build build is the theme. Netanyahu is Israels biggest enemy not the Palersinian people.

What the media won't tell you

Nablus Today morning, 6 October 2015.

Zionist occupation forces raiding Ras El Amoud Neighborhood in occupied Jerusalem and terrorizing the citizens, 5 October 2015.

What's that supposed to be? It's interesting how that large truck drove right through those flames.

IDF trying to cut off and destoy Nablus, where my friend lives, as they have been doing for months, and the resistance they meet.  Yet again contravening the Geneva Convention on the treatment of occupied people.

Not just Nablus, this has being going on all over the West Bank and they will try to say they did nothing to provoke.

That's a bit vague.

Raggamuffin wrote:That's a bit vague.

That is because what she is claiming is a crock of shit.

The 18 years old Malek Hamayel who was shot very early in the morning in the chest by fascist Zionist occupation forces, he was critically wounded but learned that he is stable now, 6 October 2015.

Throwing petrol bombs? Rioting? Or innocent?
This is what I mean the extremist brigade on here still as yet fail to condemn the violence and murder of Israelis. They already tried to defend a dead terrrorist who stabbed an Israeli teenager. I condemn the killing of a Palestinian teenager and listen to Rhetoric of Stassi.
She sounds like the worst hate monger going. Smelly would be proud.
What is needed is for both sides to call for calm and peace but people like Stassi and others are whipping up hate which only escalates further the violence on both sides.
This is why people like Stassi is an inciter of hate and violence

Where else would you see that other than Palestine,
Heavily armed Zionist occupation soldiers raiding the house of the Palestinian resident Mohammad Jamal Ja'bari from Hebron to kidnap his 3 years old child Yousef claiming that he thrown a stone at them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, today 5 October 2015.

See what I mean.
She sounds like an extremist through and through.
No call for clam and peace just hate.

The Palestinian’s legal right to resist occupation—to fight for their ability to promote, sustain, and nurture human life, to fight for their right to grow, to flourish—comes from two documents: the 1960 Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples and the Fourth Geneva Convention and its subsequent protocols.

Taken together, people have the right to “fight against colonial domination and alien occupation in the exercise of their right to self-determination,”

Above and beyond the basic right of all human beings to resist their being killed and harmed, and a society to take armed actions to protect itself, this document legitimizes also national liberation struggles, including, at this time in history, most particularly, the Palestinian people’s struggle for its own freedom.  It is this right which legitimizes all Palestinian attempts to lift the yoke of Israeli oppression from Palestine, including all the actions taken by the Palestinians during Operation Cast Lead.
And is not the right to resist oppression universal? Does this right not justify the American Revolution and then the French Revolution and the wars of liberation in the 1950′s and 1960′s. Nelson Mandela is a hero because of his resistance to, not because of his subservience to apartheid repression. And the Warsaw Ghetto uprising by the Jewish population against the Nazi repression is a beacon of pride in modern Jewish history.  it is also a fact that Jews who joined the resistance, say in Poland or other places under Nazi occupation, are heroes for the Jewish people. I would contend that one cannot deny that right of resistance to Palestinians which the Jews appropriated to themselves, and which is the right of all peoples living under military occupation and/or colonialist regimes.

Richard Falk, the UN Special Rapporteur on Palestinian human rights, a professor of international law at Princeton University, the author of dozens of books, writes in “International Law and the Al-Aqsa Intifada”:

Though the Israeli government and the US media persist in describing the second Palestinian intifada as a security crisis or a disruption to the ‘peace process,’ in international law, Palestinian resistance to occupation is a legally protected right…Israel’s failures to abide by international law, as a belligerent occupant, amounted to a fundamental denial of the right of self-determination, and more generally of respect for the framework of belligerent occupation — giving rise to a Palestinian right of resistance.

It boils down to this: every time the Israeli military arrests a Palestinian for “stone throwing” or “incitement” or any other bogus, trumped-up charges—and every time Israel holds a protest organizer or a Popular Committee leader prisoner—it is, perversely, detaining Palestinians for exercising their inalienable moral and legal rights to resist an illegal and violent military occupation.

http://972mag.com/on-the-palestinians-legal-right-to-fight-the-occupation/30855/


Written a while ago, but the law and the Geneva Convention haven't changed.

So are you just talking at people rather than expecting any kind of debate Sassy?

So Stassi has no interest ion debate, just spamming and more propaganda hate

Again what she fails to grasp is this is now on a knife rope which could turn very ugly very soon with this boiling over into full on bloodshed between the Palestinians and Israelis over the loss of innocent lives

I repeat again what is needed now is calm and restraint.
Those like the idiot Stassi trying to incite further violence and with the use of unreliable bullshit just further sow the seeds of further violence.

Raggamuffin wrote:So are you just talking at people rather than expecting any kind of debate Sassy?

If she continues am going to report her as she gets aways with this all the time bumping up threads nobody is reporting on and is not even debating which is childish and pathetic.
Time to put a stop to this, as its just ruining any chance for decent debate.
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There are some photos of a fire in the middle of the road, with no explanation whatsoever of what's burning, how it happened, or who did it. What is the point of that?

Indeed Rags, which you have to be wary on because I have seen many Pallywood photo's before where they are actually from conflicts in Syria etc.
They could be geunine but this looks very much like the aftermath of riots.
Either between settlers and Palestinians or with the Police

Raggamuffin wrote:There are some photos of a fire in the middle of the road, with no explanation whatsoever of what's burning, how it happened, or who did it. What is the point of that?

Well, as he is in an area that is being terrorised at the moment, it's rather difficult for him to worry about whether you can understand it or not.  Being part of the Peace Movement, he just records what he can, when he can, while being hit with tear gas, strun grenades, rubber coated bullets and live fire, so sorry if he doesn't take you into account.

Raggamuffin wrote:So are you just talking at people rather than expecting any kind of debate Sassy?

I'm showing you what is happening by someone who is there.

sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:There are some photos of a fire in the middle of the road, with no explanation whatsoever of what's burning, how it happened, or who did it. What is the point of that?

Well, as he is in an area that is being terrorised at the moment, it's rather difficult for him to worry about whether you can understand it or not.  Being part of the Peace Movement, he just records what he can, when he can, while being hit with tear gas, strun grenades, rubber coated bullets and live fire, so sorry if he doesn't take you into account.

Well if you and your friend want to raise awareness, then you need to worry about whether people understand what you're posting or not. I assume your friend took those photos. Can he not say what happened?

If you can't explain it, you are wasting your time.

sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:So are you just talking at people rather than expecting any kind of debate Sassy?

I'm showing you what is happening by someone who is there.

Yes, but there's no explanation of any kind, and you've pretty much said that you don't care about that, and that you don't care if people don't understand what you're posting. Therefore, you are talking at people.

Raggamuffin wrote:

sassy wrote:

Well, as he is in an area that is being terrorised at the moment, it's rather difficult for him to worry about whether you can understand it or not.  Being part of the Peace Movement, he just records what he can, when he can, while being hit with tear gas, strun grenades, rubber coated bullets and live fire, so sorry if he doesn't take you into account.

Well if you and your friend want to raise awareness, then you need to worry about whether people understand what you're posting or not. I assume your friend took those photos. Can he not say what happened?

If you can't explain it, you are wasting your time.

When he gets time, at the moment the whole of the West Bank is being threatened.

In other words stassi is pulling a Pallywood.
Freind my arse.

The whole of the West Bank?

You see it is this sort of lies that whips up a frenzy of lies, which further incites violence.

Again how many more times do I have to say that what is needed is for the leaders on both sides to condemn the attacks and call for calm.
Idiots making up lies are only going to further worsen the violence.
This is the problem with technology at the hand of idiots, they spread false information which ends up further inciting hate and violence

sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Well if you and your friend want to raise awareness, then you need to worry about whether people understand what you're posting or not. I assume your friend took those photos. Can he not say what happened?

If you can't explain it, you are wasting your time.

When he gets time, at the moment the whole of the West Bank is being threatened.

Well would you mind not being so nasty about your lack of explanations then? You want people to know about this stuff, so you're not in a position to get all arsy about it. If your friend wants to raise awareness, he's also not in a position to say that what others understand is not his problem.

Raggamuffin wrote:

sassy wrote:

When he gets time, at the moment the whole of the West Bank is being threatened.

Well would you mind not being so nasty about your lack of explanations then? You want people to know about this stuff, so you're not in a position to get all arsy about it. If your friend wants to raise awareness, he's also not in a position to say that what others understand is not his problem.

Not nasty, abrupt.  You obviously don't understand what is happening, and that's not your fault, but I'm trying to read about six things at once and just don't have the time.  Sorry if I seemed rude, the atrocities happening are making me very angry.  BBL

Zionist occupation forces while raiding Khallat El Aiman in Nablus today at dawn, stormed many houses, terrorized citizens and kidnapped four youth. The raid started at 5am and still on, 6 October 2015.











+2

Yes Stassi is the only one that claims to understand.

Jackanory

Stassi further sows the seed of hate with the crap she comes out and what is worse she knows it.


Again calling for calm is the way forward where people need to be active over the internet and media.

Palestinian cars attacked by Zionist occupation forces while they were taking wounded Palestinian citizens to the hospital today at dawn in Beit Hanina town, occupied Jerusalem, 6 October 2015.

Thread reported.

There is no links, this is just spamming now

sassy wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Well would you mind not being so nasty about your lack of explanations then? You want people to know about this stuff, so you're not in a position to get all arsy about it. If your friend wants to raise awareness, he's also not in a position to say that what others understand is not his problem.

Not nasty, abrupt.  You obviously don't understand what is happening, and that's not your fault, but I'm trying to read about six things at once and just don't have the time.  Sorry if I seemed rude, the atrocities happening are making me very angry.  BBL

That's OK. I am interested in those photos, but I just wanted to know what they were showing.

Herds of terrorist Zionist occupation colonists (settlers) gathering at the entrance of Lebban Esharqiyah village, south Nablus, preparing to raid it last night, 6 October 2015.

Cuchulain wrote:Thread reported.

There is no links, this is just spamming now

Dimwit, on my private FB page from friends there, so I'm not going to put a link DOH

Jewish settlers invade Palestinian lands south of Jenin



JENIN, (PIC)-- A horde of extremist Jewish settlers last night occupied Palestinian-owned lands in Silat ad-Dhahr, south of Jenin city, and tried to attack nearby homes.

Local sources told the Palestinian Information Center (PIC) that about 50 settlers invaded an area where the illegal settlement of Homesh used to be before its evacuation in 2005 and gathered near a water tank there.

They added that the settlers chanted racist slurs against the Arabs and approached Palestinian homes in the town under the protection of Israeli soldiers in an attempt to attack them.

The sources noted the residents had formed popular committees to protect the homes which are located on the outskirts of the town against any attempt by Jewish settlers to attack them.

http://english.palinfo.com/site/pages/details.aspx?itemid=73938

So in other words its unreliable sources
You are spamming and do this daily and enough is enough

Cuchulain wrote:So in other words its unreliable sources
You are spamming and do this daily and enough is enough

Information straight from the horses mouth.  You just hate it when it's shown how little you know.

Report away Dodge, Ben must be sick of your reporting by now.

sassy wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:So in other words its unreliable sources
You are spamming and do this daily and enough is enough

Information straight from the horses mouth.  You just hate it when it's shown how little you know.

Report away Dodge, Ben must be sick of your reporting by now.

No its Jackanory and being as you have been caught out so many times, just like the other day telling porkies and posting up pics before which were straight from Pallywood, hardly any are going to believe you.

The fact is this is a debate forum, not a platform for your propaganda of hate.
You are as appalling as those who promote hate against refugees.
Its the same rhetoric and incitement to violence by a promotion of lies.

Sassy, I just think that your MO is counter-productive really.

You know what you're talking about obviously because you have a particular interest in the situation, and you're the one posting the stuff. You can't really accuse others of not knowing anything when you're bombarding the forum with pictures which have no context, or long posts which you've just copied from elsewhere. People need time to read it properly and digest what's being said, and then maybe do a bit of research of their own.

Perhaps you could post one thing, and then make a comment, and then wait to see if anyone has any other comments. At the moment, by the time they've read one post, you've already done another dozen posts or whatever.

Confirmed by Channel 4 News:

https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10153264213201939/

I just get it before they do.

So in other words all that violence was from the Palestinians, which is evident from the video throwing rocks and petrol bombs.

So much for the jackanory friends.

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Gallery: Palestinian Protesters Clash With Israeli Troops
A Palestinian protester hurls stones towards Israeli troops during clashes near the Jewish settlement of Bet El, near the West Bank city of Ramallah
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http://news.sky.com/gallery/1564595/tension-in-east-jerusalem


A genuine media source

Cuchulain wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:So are you just talking at people rather than expecting any kind of debate Sassy?

If she continues am going to report her as she gets aways with this all the time bumping up threads nobody is reporting on and is not even debating which is childish and pathetic.
Time to put a stop to this, as its just ruining any chance for decent debate.
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HA HA!

Fuzzy Zack wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:



If she continues am going to report her as she gets aways with this all the time bumping up threads nobody is reporting on and is not even debating which is childish and pathetic.
Time to put a stop to this, as its just ruining any chance for decent debate.
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HA HA!

Clearly deranged laughing to himself now.
Have you sought medical help?